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#3161 Don-kun

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 11:25 PM

It's like this, what she said could have been completely true, but her face says otherwise. What she said is more like something she wish to say with a complete face, but we know now that she's with everyone else: don't trust Sasuke. Sasuke has another agenda, but he won't reveal until well, Madara is out. We got a glimpse but that's all. Kishimoto clearly wants us to see it as a sign what's to come in the future. Even Orochimaru is waiting to see how Sasuke will execute his "wind".

I think this is too complicated, the purpose of Sai observation wasn't to tell the readers that what she said was something she wanted to believe, it's clear like water she wasn't being honest, does this have anything to do with her feelings for Sasuke getting weaker? Does it has anything to do with Sasuke's attempt of her life? Or doesn't it has something to do with her sensing some conflict between Sasuke and Naruto knowing that a fight could remember her what Naruto said to Sasuke back at summit? It could be reason one, two reason or the three of these reason might be bothering her regarding Sasuke but because she doesn't want anyone to start going against Sasuke at this time and they sure need his help she needs to pretend that everything is OK for the alliance and maybe for Naruto's sake after all he said that he will take care of Sasuke not the Rookies.

 

 

The only thing I'm regretting right now is not seeing Sai asking Sakura why is she lying about trusting him, what made her change her mind about him?


Edited by Don-kun, 27 June 2013 - 11:30 PM.


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 11:29 PM

Hard to say really, but for now, it's safe to say that she's lying. Whether that's truly it or not, best to stick to the one we got from the manga. Sadly, we got to wait later.

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Posted 27 June 2013 - 11:36 PM

Let me ask you a question, if you take your fathers car without him knowing and you scratch the door, when he find out about the scratch he question you but since no ones know you tell him that you didn't do it but because of your uncomfortable behavior or something your father development to know when you're are lying he tells you that you might sound convincing but I know that you are lying, would that by similar to Sai developing a way of knowing when Sakura is lying or not being genuine even if her lie sound convincing?

 

You don't need to look too deep into this because Sai is saying that he knows Sakura is lying this example already happen three times in the Manga. Sai knows how to read her.

 

Think about it.

So if we follow that logic Sakura don't love Naruto either... Chapter 469 is similar to your exemple. Even Naruto says that Sakura  might sound convincing but he know that she is lying.

 

Do you agree with this ?


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Posted 27 June 2013 - 11:57 PM

So if we follow that logic Sakura don't love Naruto either... Chapter 469 is similar to your exemple. Even Naruto says that Sakura  might sound convincing but he know that she is lying.

 

Do you agree with this ?

This is something we discuss many times in the past, Naruto never said Sakura was lying to him about her feeling for him plus Sai never stated that she was lying about loving Naruto, Naruto said that he new something was weird and told her to stop lying to herself about not caring about Sasuke when she clearly does, after all Yamato imply that she might feel something very strong for Naruto that goes beyond friendship and Sai told her that he doesn't understand that kind of feeling she has for him with out forgetting that Sakura herself says that only she know what she feels, so it doesn't contradict what I say, not to mention that not too long ago Naruto imply that there is more on less something between them and she didn't deny it when she could easily say no there is nothing between us or even ask him why would he lie to his father about them when they were talking alone.

 

The fact about the Manga is that he learn how to notice when Sakura was lying it was show back in the Sai and Sasuke arc and he specifically mention that he would never forget that smile, it was put on test back is the summit arc and once again it was use while questioning her regarding her trust towards Sasuke.

 

It's all in the Manga my friend. :smile:


Edited by Don-kun, 28 June 2013 - 12:00 AM.


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:40 AM

i'm not complaining, but anyone think the Yamato moment came to soon, i mean that was pretty soon for Sakura to love Naruto



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:47 AM

i'm not complaining, but anyone think the Yamato moment came to soon, i mean that was pretty soon for Sakura to love Naruto

I don't think so. ^^

 

She wasn't completely in love with him back then, but she loved him.

 

I don't know when she fell in love with him, but that's what I like about it. I can't name a chapter or episode where Sakura suddenly loved him, because their bond evenly blossomed throughout the manga. That makes them solid. : ]


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:50 AM

I don't know when she fell in love with him...

I could (and have) argue chapter three but the first "real" moment Sakura fell in love with Naruto is here

 

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chapter 13 page 19

 

notice she doesn't recognize the feeling because she has never truly loved Sasuke at least not like she loves Naruto


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:58 AM

^I was actually thinking of that after I posted. XD

It all started in chapter 13 to me :wibble:

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 02:06 AM

I could (and have) argue chapter three but the first "real" moment Sakura fell in love with Naruto is here

 

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chapter 13 page 19

 

I wouldn't necessarily refer to that as love. It's just a completely new sensation that Sakura is experiencing concerning Naruto which she had never felt prior to then. Before she was presumptuously resentment and untrustworthy of him. I think she described her frustration towards him as being an "interference to her love" or something of that effect. If anything it's similar to when Naruto's determination and fury continued growing inside of him as he fought Gaara and was coming to understand the severity of his situation, that they were all truly in danger and that Sakura could very well die if he didn't do something (http://i17.mangapand...naruto-2655.jpg).

 

Sakura was experiencing her first emotional upsurge to support Naruto. She thought his determination was impressive and subconsciously her mind wanted to see him succeed at that moment.

 

Well, that's my interpretation of the matter at least. I don't think that it really blossomed into love until P2 came around although that scene you posted was definitely the foundation for NS events later to come.


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 03:24 AM

I don't think so. ^^

 

She wasn't completely in love with him back then, but she loved him.

 

I don't know when she fell in love with him, but that's what I like about it. I can't name a chapter or episode where Sakura suddenly loved him, because their bond evenly blossomed throughout the manga. That makes them solid. : ]

I agree, its a shame from our stand point all the NS moments get cut off, but i guess it makes it better when it does happen like the hug



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 04:49 AM

Sai never told that her words were true. Sai just said "Perhaps your words are true but I know that your smile is false". Sai just wanted to say that you can fool the people with words but you cannot do the same with your facial expression.

 

Yeah, that sounds about right. That's the first impression I got from that chapter, but since people started wondering about what was true or not I wasn't sure anymore. Good to know that my first interpretation is correct.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 05:06 AM

 

Yeah, that sounds about right. That's the first impression I got from that chapter, but since people started wondering about what was true or not I wasn't sure anymore. Good to know that my first interpretation is correct.

 

I think people who were over analyzing that scene actually ended up confusing many readers. Sloppy translations factor in too I guess. 


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 07:11 AM

^I was actually thinking of that after I posted. XD

It all started in chapter 13 to me :wibble:

Before I started reading/watching Naruto I was convinced that Sakura is Sasuke's ex girlfriend, lol. And that Naruto's love is blind girl (Hinata). I thought so because of Huge amount of SS/NH AMVs, fanarts, etc... But when I introduced myself to canon story, I fell in love with NS immediately and SS/NH never made any sense.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 07:21 AM

Before I started reading/watching Naruto I was convinced that Sakura is Sasuke's ex girlfriend, lol. And that Naruto's love is blind girl (Hinata). I thought so because of Huge amount of SS/NH AMVs, fanarts, etc... But when I introduced myself to canon story, I fell in love with NS immediately and SS/NH never made any sense.

Funny because I thought NH/SS was the route before starting Naruto because how vague my cousin's description was and only caught on with Chunnin Exam, thinking Sasuke was like a cool guy.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 07:39 AM

Before I started reading/watching Naruto I was convinced that Sakura is Sasuke's ex girlfriend, lol. And that Naruto's love is blind girl (Hinata). I thought so because of Huge amount of SS/NH AMVs, fanarts, etc... But when I introduced myself to canon story, I fell in love with NS immediately and SS/NH never made any sense.

Heh when the anime started and probably in chapter 3 I thought NS is gonna happen. Hinata shows up NH. Later went back to NS. Chuunin exams NH/SS and from Gaara fight onward I was convinced NS is gonna be cannon.



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 07:44 AM

The blush doesn't matter because sakura told naruto don't worry about the little details right after meaning that even if it was a blush it was meaningless to her. Also I don't see why people confuse the fact that sai said your words might be true. Her words seemed true the other like 2 or 3 times that sakura lied to sai, but her smile showed that it wasn't true. That's all you need to get out of that smile was the fact that she is lying. She knows what is going to come and she knows that this will never be the same sasuke from before.

This^

 

Also i just wanted to point out something nice, sakura, kushina and stunade have all been complimented by their beauty!  :excited:

 

Jiraya said sakura is beautiful and also tsunade, inari said sakura is beautiful, naruto called her a cute babe  :woot: and a black and white cover said she inherited her masters beauty, and on one of her scrolls (wave arc) it was written "explanation of a cute girl" wow she really is the prettiest of her generation, just as kushina and tsunade (and mito?) were  :yes:

 

Tsunade said that kushina was so beautiful, naruto was happy his mom was still a babe, minato's her husband so he definitely said something.

 

And sakura, shikamaru, shikaku, jiraya and orochimaru called her beautiful. (remember the time oro was like "i always wanted to feel that pretty neck of yours!! :kukuku:" and he strangled her  :no:


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 07:47 AM

Funny because I thought NH/SS was the route before starting Naruto because how vague my cousin's description was and only caught on with Chunnin Exam, thinking Sasuke was like a cool guy.

Yeah, you can imagine how shocked I was when I stared to read/watch canon material.

I was like "..the hell???:wot: 
I couldn't understand why people like Sasuke so much (same goes for Hinata). Then I figured that Hinata wasn't actually blind (lol, I felt sorry for the girl :pinch:), and how great that loud Naruto guys is and how much he likes Sakura (who irritated me at first due to her obsession with Sauce and rough attitude towards Naruto,'cmon gurl!), but as her character developed I started to like her more and more.

 

Heh when the anime started and probably in chapter 3 I thought NS is gonna happen. Hinata shows up NH. Later went back to NS. Chuunin exams NH/SS and from Gaara fight onward I was convinced NS is gonna be cannon.

Well I fell in love with the ship in chapter 3. Sometimes I doubted that it's the endgame, but that didn't really matter.. even if Kishi decides not to make NS canon (which is crazy) I'll still love them and they'll be forever and ever my fav OTP.  :sweatdrop:



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:13 AM

Before I started reading/watching Naruto I was convinced that Sakura is Sasuke's ex girlfriend, lol. And that Naruto's love is blind girl (Hinata). I thought so because of Huge amount of SS/NH AMVs, fanarts, etc... But when I introduced myself to canon story, I fell in love with NS immediately and SS/NH never made any sense.

Haha really? well, before i started watching naruto my brother didn't say anything, no one in my siblings has ever shipped anything, or even watched much anime for the matter, we only used to watch what would start on cartoon network or jet ex.

 

But when i started watching naruto, i immediately fell in love with naruto, sakura, sasuke and kakashi's character's in their own special way. Sakura was so funny and pretty i just liked her, and whats funny is that, i would always have problems in choosing my favourite female character in naruto between sakura and ino, debating to myself who was the prettiest, and i concluded both of them, but i chose sakura because of her pink hair :excited: I was also ofnd of the way naruto and sakura interacted and how they would bicker, well sakura would, she wasn;t annoying and me and my younger brother would always love those comedic scenes between the two, so basically we knew naruto and sakura were for eachother after the bench scene and all those other scenes on P1 especially the gaara vs naruto one. Sasuke's character just appeals to me, even now, i just love his character there's no explaining it!  :excited:  :excited:  :excited:  and kakashi, same goes for him! I also loved team 10 and gai's team! The other's arent important so meh.

 

So im happy to say that i've been reading the manga in the same way kishi probably would have hoped for his japanese fans to read it, love the hero, fond of the heroine, love sasuke and kakashi, no hate towards them, and ofcoarse support our hero and his goals, and supporting his love for sakura  :nslove:  :narutosprite:  :sakura3:  :sakura2:  :naruto5:


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Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:22 AM

Haha really? well, before i started watching naruto my brother didn't say anything, no one in my siblings has ever shipped anything, or even watched much anime for the matter, we only used to watch what would start on cartoon network or jet ex.

 

But when i started watching naruto, i immediately fell in love with naruto, sakura, sasuke and kakashi's character's in their own special way. Sakura was so funny and pretty i just liked her, and whats funny is that, i would always have problems in choosing my favourite female character in naruto between sakura and ino, debating to myself who was the prettiest, and i concluded both of them, but i chose sakura because of her pink hair :excited: I was also ofnd of the way naruto and sakura interacted and how they would bicker, well sakura would, she wasn;t annoying and me and my younger brother would always love those comedic scenes between the two, so basically we knew naruto and sakura were for eachother after the bench scene and all those other scenes on P1 especially the gaara vs naruto one. Sasuke's character just appeals to me, even now, i just love his character there's no explaining it!  :excited:  :excited:  :excited:  and kakashi, same goes for him! I also loved team 10 and gai's team! The other's arent important so meh.

 

So im happy to say that i've been reading the manga in the same way kishi probably would have hoped for his japanese fans to read it, love the hero, fond of the heroine, love sasuke and kakashi, no hate towards them, and ofcoarse support our hero and his goals, and supporting his love for sakura  :nslove:  :narutosprite:  :sakura3:  :sakura2:  :naruto5:

Oh wow, you sure like the series very much. Kudos for that.  :thumbsup: 

I don't really hate anyone and I don't understand why people bash certain characters so much. I like to fool around and tease NH/SS, but I try not to be very rude.  :fan:



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Posted 28 June 2013 - 08:26 AM

Oh wow, you sure like the series very much. Kudos for that.  :thumbsup: 

I don't really hate anyone and I don't understand why people bash certain characters so much. I like to fool around and tease NH/SS, but I try not to be very rude.  :fan:

omg same here!!!  :fan:

 

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