Context? Is she done with that fanfiction or something?
She is taking a hiatus from naruto
Posted 26 May 2025 - 10:30 PM
Context? Is she done with that fanfiction or something?
Posted 04 August 2025 - 01:49 AM
Is this place dead?
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Posted 05 August 2025 - 06:35 AM
Is this place dead?
Honestly pretty much, yes.
I mean in all honestly it was to be expected. Naruto ended what 10 years ago, 15 years ago, I don't even remember, nor do I care enough to look it up.
We've talked about pretty much every single thing we could've. Once in a while some troll signs up and tries to do some damage, but usually he or she is quickly dealt with.
Burrito is just rubbish that none of us are interested. I do have massive respect for Bail o' Lies for destroying his brain cells reading it and posting a summary of what happened. Once in a while I read a summary from him and immediately after I finish I go for 2 tons of vodka in order to kill all my brain cells that stored any information about what I just read because Jesus Christ that thing is absolute dog crap.
Plus we all have our lives and the truth is we've gotten older and with age also came certain moments in our lives that affected us and made us look differently towards a fictional piece of entertainment. We've lost that passion that we once had or at least I did, I used to like writing walls of text thinking about every single detail I could in that moment, making sure nothing can be debunked, having all the right counter arguments to absolutely destroy anything and anyone, thinking of every single thing that could be said, etc., and now? Now I'm like whatever.
That passion at least for me is gone. For example I do have to write something completely separate from Naruto, but I still haven't started yet. This was something I wanted to write for about 2 years at this point. I wrote some bullet points of what I want to say, but no more than that.
I still maintain my position that one day we will get a Naruto do-over of the ending. I don't know when. I don't even know if we would care or if any of us would be alive by then. It's a truth we have to accept.
I do think that after Toriyama's death; Kishimoto did some internal reflections and maybe looked at himself differently because when Toriyama died a whole world was devastated by his departure. I even cried even though I have never meet the man, nor did I have any emotional attachment to Dragon Ball like I did with Naruto. But his death affected me, something that I'm sorry to say won't affect me if I hear Kishimoto dies.
Kishimoto's legacy will not be known fondly like Toriyama's.
What does Kishimoto have to show for? A manga that ran for 15 years then at the very end destroyed itself and all the positive messages it tried to tell its readers. That's it.
An abomination of a continuation that no one asked for or wants. Interviews of insulting the paying customers by telling them, they read it wrong and contradictions.
I think in a way I hope that it affected him enough to rethink what he did or allowed to be done because even at this point I still have no idea who was really responsible for the mess that came.
I hope he realizes this and does something to fix it. Maybe he won't do it for us, but for his own memory.
Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.
Posted 13 August 2025 - 02:20 AM
I still come here from time to time.
Posted 14 August 2025 - 02:31 AM
Nah Im still here. Im watching ninnku and Im surprised how similar some things are with naruto. Idk about this forum but theres ns fans that still exist on Reddit, tumblr, YouTube, etc. still fans in Japan and elsewhereIs this place dead?
Edited by totherpage95, 14 August 2025 - 02:35 AM.
Posted 22 August 2025 - 09:59 PM
Is this place dead?
This ship's been dead for 11 years now, everyone's moved on there's nothing left to say.
Plus, message boards are dying in favor of platforms like Discord. Even if NaruSaku did become canon it may very well have been bound to happen anyway that this place would clear out, especially with the quality we have seen in Boruto.
Posted 27 August 2025 - 07:51 AM
I do think that after Toriyama's death; Kishimoto did some internal reflections and maybe looked at himself differently because when Toriyama died a whole world was devastated by his departure. I even cried even though I have never meet the man, nor did I have any emotional attachment to Dragon Ball like I did with Naruto. But his death affected me, something that I'm sorry to say won't affect me if I hear Kishimoto dies.Kishimoto's legacy will not be known fondly like Toriyama's.What does Kishimoto have to show for? A manga that ran for 15 years then at the very end destroyed itself and all the positive messages it tried to tell its readers. That's it.
I still maintain my position that one day we will get a Naruto do-over of the ending. I don't know when. I don't even know if we would care or if any of us would be alive by then. It's a truth we have to accept.
Burrito is just rubbish that none of us are interested. I do have massive respect for Bail o' Lies for destroying his brain cells reading it and posting a summary of what happened. Once in a while I read a summary from him and immediately after I finish I go for 2 tons of vodka in order to kill all my brain cells that stored any information about what I just read because Jesus Christ that thing is absolute dog crap.
Edited by Therece, 27 August 2025 - 08:05 AM.
Posted 27 August 2025 - 08:13 PM
Posted 28 August 2025 - 10:43 PM
I still bet they'll revisit the series again. For nostalgia-sake and some extra $$$.
If they did a really good mini series for an anniversary, old school fans would love it! I'm still betting that they'll cash in on the nostalgia at some point.
Posted 29 August 2025 - 06:40 AM
I still bet they'll revisit the series again. For nostalgia-sake and some extra $$$.
If they did a really good mini series for an anniversary, old school fans would love it! I'm still betting that they'll cash in on the nostalgia at some point.
Its surprising they haven't already. Though that could be because Boruto still ongoing and don't want to interfere till that's done, the movie is in production hell, and there was the mini series that was suppose to come out that could test the waters that still hasn't been released; which implies issues.
Its like I said years ago. The reason they wanted Boruto is because Naruto was a huge international money maker they didn't feel they could easily replace. Only for the new generation of shounen to do so before Ikemoto's lazy ass could bother to start the sequel, and make more money internationally due to the rise of streaming. Now granted, almost all the manga that surpassed it have ended and there was a drought. Not that Boruto could take advantage of it due to the fact it anime was put on hiatus by that point. Akane Banashi was very close to becoming one of the top three of Shounen Jump. Till Kagurabachi and Ichi the Witch stormed their way into those spots. Which again will delay any need to address the Naruto-Boruto issue as a money maker and how to make it one again...like till after Ikemoto's contract runs out.
I mean from the interviews it does seem he regrets it. That's why many fans in Japan think he sold out or was pressured to do what he did (because he acted like people told him they liked hinata and he changed the pairing due to that pressure). There's also the disagreement from his wife about it too. Seishi and him have pairings similar to ns in most of their manga. I really do believe that him stepping back from boruto is partly because of that. The minato one shot is just more evidence that he's not a fan of the ending. Masashi provided the story for road to ninja and even now he keeps saying hell write more about sakura its not really a stretch to see that a lot of the story just nose dived in a pretty odd way. I don't believe it would've happened this way regardless of the pairing since other manga don't go the way Naruto did
Samurai 8 though short live is another proof he didn't not like the ending. If you made the best romance evar in the story that only geniuses could truly understand or what ever nH/SS say about it now a days. You wouldn't spend 10 chapters of your next story going, "I am not changing the love interest," over and over again.
Edited by Bail o' Lies, 03 September 2025 - 03:17 AM.
Posted 30 August 2025 - 12:29 AM
Well they announced a while ago that theyre going to make a few og naruto episodes. Masashi said 10 yrs ago and also more recently he wants to write about sakuras parents but he hasnt done that yet. Theres also some interest in making a live naruto movie i hear but there were pretty terrible rumors about itI still bet they'll revisit the series again. For nostalgia-sake and some extra $$$.
If they did a really good mini series for an anniversary, old school fans would love it! I'm still betting that they'll cash in on the nostalgia at some point.
Edited by totherpage95, 30 August 2025 - 12:32 AM.
Posted 31 August 2025 - 06:12 AM
One can tell most people are done with discussion when no has bother yet with this... low hanging fruit of a post. I'm not using the quote button because their are tabs and I'm not going to bother editing to try to make it look nice.
And what's that point of him becoming Hokage? What did he accomplish? Why was it important to the story and its world Naruto became Hokage other marking off a box under character goals? Also, you are quite happy that Sakura's only goal was to get into Sasuke's pants and pop out babies. The Double Standards.
"A couple doesn't change anything about the manga. When Kishimoto wants to make a retcon or a bad decision, no editor can stop him. The thing is, all the NaruSaku arguments, especially the one blaming editors and popularity, don't make sense to begin with.
...You were really hung up on Kaguya while typing this post. Why is that? Are you internally questioning why she exist or not and trying to convince yourself of something? Here, let me help you along. Madara was Sasuke if Naruto gave up on him. Obito was Naruto if Sasuke killed Sakura. Kaguya was the Hyuuga clan's evil ancestor. There was no villain in the final arc tied to Sakura because she was removed as the heroine...also Kishimoto has always had issue keeping her involved in the plot.
There would be more to fix than just the pairing. Though compare and contrast those 15 years to the last 11, it will help. Yes, when NS was the intended pairing they made merch for it and when it stopped being the pairing they stopped making merch. We are getting close to "fire is hot" territory. Unless you have figures of during and post Naruto for merchandise sales it is just speculating.
Edited by Bail o' Lies, 02 September 2025 - 03:05 PM.
Posted 01 September 2025 - 03:05 PM
there's a leak that the naruto episodes announced in 2023 are out of the production phase but take it with a grain of salt
Posted 01 September 2025 - 03:20 PM
Edited by Bail o' Lies, 14 September 2025 - 12:29 AM.
Posted 01 September 2025 - 05:40 PM
I still bet they'll revisit the series again. For nostalgia-sake and some extra $$$.
If they did a really good mini series for an anniversary, old school fans would love it! I'm still betting that they'll cash in on the nostalgia at some point.
At one point they will because Naruto became a brand. It transcended beyond just being a manga. It's a brand and they will use that.
The question now is when? And also will they learn their lesson? There would be no point in making something new if they just do the same thing.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.
Posted 01 September 2025 - 07:48 PM
At one point they will because Naruto became a brand. It transcended beyond just being a manga. It's a brand and they will use that.
The question now is when? And also will they learn their lesson? There would be no point in making something new if they just do the same thing.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
Whenever Boruto is over/Ikemoto's contract is up/when they need a IP that can make them money.
Again, SJ isn't lacking in IP at the moment that are making them money. Likely why Part one was ended, was that Boruto's peers were all ending at the point and it was making them look at it. To realize Ikemoto was wasting time and his story was in a rut that could have part one last for 15 years on its own. Which would be nice if it was profitable, which everyone knows wasn't that case. So if we wait for the current batch to end, as Ikemoto is failling back into bad habits, they will look at part two again see waste and order it to finish. Which can be about 5 years. Granted shounen manga aren't going on for as long as during Naruto's time. Kill Blue that just ended finished before the first episode of its anime aired.
I think Ikemoto is in a 60 chapter contract as that's around the time Kodaichi was "let go" as his contract is up. 120 of Boruto in total chapters is 40 of part two which is 15 chapters/months from now. If they changed it to 60 chapters for part two 35 Chapters/Months from now.
Boruto is pretty much designed to go on forever due to its abysmal pace. From the start of part two Bolt has had three goals: defeat Punk, defeat the Tree people, Defeat Nail to release his parents. Now those could all be resolved in a single fight or he can make it go on forever.
It really is just how long until the company gets sick of the situation and just ends it.
As for will they change it? If they do continue it, they have no choice. Boruto is seen as such a black mark even by Pro-ending fans that keeping it canon only hurts the IP. Kishimoto was always a reluctant supporter of nH/SS, he only had them because he was told they would be profitable...which they clearly haven't.
Edited by Bail o' Lies, 03 September 2025 - 03:38 AM.
Posted 02 September 2025 - 04:25 AM
The other part is the Sakura was a kitten for pretending to like Naruto to use him to get Sasuke.
Yet they had no problems when the last did this to Naruto for Sakura.
Posted 02 September 2025 - 01:49 PM
Yet they had no problems when the last did this to Naruto for Sakura.
In Japan, that pretty much destroyed Naruto's reputation and made him a scumbag in their eyes. To the point, I do think that it did eventually went from being completely canon to semi-canon.
In the West, as long as Naruto only loves Hinata they do not care how bad it makes him look, because the worst is apparently not loving only Hinata and him caring about anything else.
Edited by Bail o' Lies, 02 September 2025 - 08:46 PM.
Posted 03 September 2025 - 01:42 AM
I haven't finished Demon Slayer, (idk why, I started it, it was good, life just got in the way, lol) but I got the feeling like he was the Naruto Kishimoto was trying to write. An untarnished hero.
But...Kisihimoto always made Naruto the but of jokes too. Stupid or falling behind as a kid/teen/young adult, then a terrible dad as an adult. And not much of a hokage either. (I didn't watch Boruto. Just. Can't. Do. It. So, let me know if my opinion is wrong about that.) He was supposed to overcome his terrible past to become the hero, but Kishimoto just kept screwing him over.
Maybe it's just me. Anyway, when I watched Demon Slayer, Tanjiro felt like Naruto, without Kishimoto tripping him up all the time.
Posted 03 September 2025 - 02:08 AM
I haven't finished Demon Slayer, (idk why, I started it, it was good, life just got in the way, lol) but I got the feeling like he was the Naruto Kishimoto was trying to write. An untarnished hero.
But...Kisihimoto always made Naruto the but of jokes too. Stupid or falling behind as a kid/teen/young adult, then a terrible dad as an adult. And not much of a hokage either. (I didn't watch Boruto. Just. Can't. Do. It. So, let me know if my opinion is wrong about that.) He was supposed to overcome his terrible past to become the hero, but Kishimoto just kept screwing him over.
Maybe it's just me. Anyway, when I watched Demon Slayer, Tanjiro felt like Naruto, without Kishimoto tripping him up all the time.
yeah ninkuu and the adventure of dai were also kinda like that. i think masashi was probably unhappy with the ending perhaps other people thought was good (he does say around the land of iron arc that people were trying to tell him hinata was the heroine which he pushed back on at the time) and deliberately was making naruto this terrible person at the end. the beginning makes sense since masashi himself was bullied with his twin and he wasn't a good student. it might explain why he's criticizing boruto right now
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