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#31721 BlueStarSaber

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Posted 26 May 2025 - 10:30 PM

Context? Is she done with that fanfiction or something?


She is taking a hiatus from naruto

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Posted 04 August 2025 - 01:49 AM

Is this place dead?


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Posted 05 August 2025 - 06:35 AM

Is this place dead?

Honestly pretty much, yes.

I mean in all honestly it was to be expected. Naruto ended what 10 years ago, 15 years ago, I don't even remember, nor do I care enough to look it up.

We've talked about pretty much every single thing we could've. Once in a while some troll signs up and tries to do some damage, but usually he or she is quickly dealt with.

Burrito is just rubbish that none of us are interested. I do have massive respect for Bail o' Lies for destroying his brain cells reading it and posting a summary of what happened. Once in a while I read a summary from him and immediately after I finish I go for 2 tons of vodka in order to kill all my brain cells that stored any information about what I just read because Jesus Christ that thing is absolute dog crap.

 

Plus we all have our lives and the truth is we've gotten older and with age also came certain moments in our lives that affected us and made us look differently towards a fictional piece of entertainment. We've lost that passion that we once had or at least I did, I used to like writing walls of text thinking about every single detail I could in that moment, making sure nothing can be debunked, having all the right counter arguments to absolutely destroy anything and anyone, thinking of every single thing that could be said, etc., and now? Now I'm like whatever.

That passion at least for me is gone. For example I do have to write something completely separate from Naruto, but I still haven't started yet. This was something I wanted to write for about 2 years at this point. I wrote some bullet points of what I want to say, but no more than that.

 

I still maintain my position that one day we will get a Naruto do-over of the ending. I don't know when. I don't even know if we would care or if any of us would be alive by then. It's a truth we have to accept.

I do think that after Toriyama's death; Kishimoto did some internal reflections and maybe looked at himself differently because when Toriyama died a whole world was devastated by his departure. I even cried even though I have never meet the man, nor did I have any emotional attachment to Dragon Ball like I did with Naruto. But his death affected me, something that I'm sorry to say won't affect me if I hear Kishimoto dies.

Kishimoto's legacy will not be known fondly like Toriyama's.

 

What does Kishimoto have to show for? A manga that ran for 15 years then at the very end destroyed itself and all the positive messages it tried to tell its readers. That's it.

An abomination of a continuation that no one asked for or wants. Interviews of insulting the paying customers by telling them, they read it wrong and contradictions.

I think in a way I hope that it affected him enough to rethink what he did or allowed to be done because even at this point I still have no idea who was really responsible for the mess that came.

I hope he realizes this and does something to fix it. Maybe he won't do it for us, but for his own memory.


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#31724 NaruSaku fan in Kentucky

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Posted 13 August 2025 - 02:20 AM

I still come here from time to time.


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Posted 14 August 2025 - 02:31 AM

Is this place dead?

Nah Im still here. Im watching ninnku and Im surprised how similar some things are with naruto. Idk about this forum but theres ns fans that still exist on Reddit, tumblr, YouTube, etc. still fans in Japan and elsewhere

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Posted 22 August 2025 - 09:59 PM

Is this place dead?

This ship's been dead for 11 years now, everyone's moved on there's nothing left to say.

 

Plus, message boards are dying in favor of platforms like Discord. Even if NaruSaku did become canon it may very well have been bound to happen anyway that this place would clear out, especially with the quality we have seen in Boruto.


 


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Posted 27 August 2025 - 07:51 AM

I do think that after Toriyama's death; Kishimoto did some internal reflections and maybe looked at himself differently because when Toriyama died a whole world was devastated by his departure. I even cried even though I have never meet the man, nor did I have any emotional attachment to Dragon Ball like I did with Naruto. But his death affected me, something that I'm sorry to say won't affect me if I hear Kishimoto dies.
 
Kishimoto's legacy will not be known fondly like Toriyama's.
What does Kishimoto have to show for? A manga that ran for 15 years then at the very end destroyed itself and all the positive messages it tried to tell its readers. That's it.
 

 

 

 
I mean, 11 years later, and the coping never change.  NaruSaku isn't the only paying customer. SasuSaku, NaruHina, SasuNaru, and every single character fandom are all part of Naruto's paying customer base. Don't try to give more importance to the Non Canon NaruSaku fandom who still exists in other places.
 
A 15-year story was ruined just because your pairing didn't become canon and Naruto lost his "trophy girl"? 
First of all, I don't give a damn about NaruSaku anymore, and I'm not even a fan of the Naruto character.
 
But Naruto's goal and the manga's main point wasn't about him getting into Sakura's pants and making babies. His main objective was to become Hokage and to save and be recognized by Sasuke. Naruto got exactly what he wanted in the end. Families and children were just a bonus to complete the characters' life cycles.
 
A couple doesn't change anything about the manga. When Kishimoto wants to make a retcon or a bad decision, no editor can stop him. The thing is, all the NaruSaku arguments, especially the one blaming editors and popularity, don't make sense to begin with.
No editor forced Kishimoto to make Sakura's feelings for Sasuke a central part of her character. No editor forced Kishimoto to have Hinata confess in what was, at that point, Naruto's most important fight when she could have easily been forgotten. Even Neji was killed to bring them together.
 
 
Even when Naruto was just beginning and needed sales to survive, Kishimoto and Yahagi took their sweet time building everything, including pairings, despite demanding circumstances. When Naruto was selling millions just by sneezing, are NaruSaku shippers truly assuming that some supposedly biased editor or Pierrot "forced" the creator, the owner of the franchise, to do what they wanted? This is especially unbelievable at the end of the manga when Kishimoto was doing whatever he wanted. Or did some editor force Kishimoto to create Kaguya?
 
The idea that Kishimoto was forced to do anything is ridiculous. He is the creator and owner of the franchise. He had the final say on everything, including secondary plots like pairings. If he wanted to do NaruSaku, he could have. But he didn't. He chose to do SasuSaku and NaruHina because it was his plan. That was solely his decision. There are much worse things I can list besides Kaguya:
 
  • Naruto being a weak main character without a proper objective and being obsessed with Sasuke.
  • Gaara being redeemed and becoming a Kage of the same village where he tried to murder people on a daily basis.
  • Itachi being retconned into a hero. This ruined Sasuke's story and the manga in general.
  • The entire Uchiha clan massacre and the innocents being swept under the rug to glorify Itachi.
  • Nagato reviving everyone at the end of the Pain arc, just like a Disney ending.
  • Naruto becoming a fake messiah without any proper answers for his peace quest.
  • Obito being redeemed despite his horrible crimes, and Naruto still praising his parents' murderer.
  • A random alien being introduced as the final villain instead of Madara.
 
Do you care about Kaguya and other poorly written plots by Kishimoto, or is the problem just NaruSaku sinking?
Sorry, I can't take a shipper seriously who thinks a Non Canon Couple destroyed a shonen manga while ignoring much more serious plots and problems that truly affect the manga as a whole.
 
If you stepped out of your NaruSaku bubble, you would recognize that the other pairings also have a lot more development and didn't just become canon out of nowhere. So no, NaruSaku pairing isn't a universal truth.
 
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I still maintain my position that one day we will get a Naruto do-over of the ending. I don't know when. I don't even know if we would care or if any of us would be alive by then. It's a truth we have to accept.
 
 

 

 

 
Let me guess... 11 years later, you still think Kishimoto will magically come back and admit he only made a mistake regarding the canon pairings? NaruSaku will get another ending, keeping everything exactly the same—like Kaguya, Sasuke vs. Naruto, Naruto still being Hokage, and (New) New Era, with the same couples and themes—but only with Sakura as Naruto's wife and Shinachiku fanmade as his son isntead of Boruto and Himawari and Sasuke alone? So yeah. It's better to move on.
 
The canon couples are heavily promoted as part of the merchandise, anime, and other products precisely because they are canon. It's time to recognize this, as these couples will remain canon for the next 10, 20, and 100 years. Kishimoto isn't going to magically retcon his own manga to please a few shippers who haven't moved on and are still mad about the ending.
 
Nobody is promoting or remembering a Fanon pairing anymore. At this point, you don't even have this old "NaruSaku"" merch anymore.
 
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This is the oficial Merch and events since 2015.
Naruhina also have their share of merchandise, but I don't care to look for it or save it.
 
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Burrito is just rubbish that none of us are interested. I do have massive respect for Bail o' Lies for destroying his brain cells reading it and posting a summary of what happened. Once in a while I read a summary from him and immediately after I finish I go for 2 tons of vodka in order to kill all my brain cells that stored any information about what I just read because Jesus Christ that thing is absolute dog crap.
 

 

 
 
Nobody cares about Boruto, neither fans of the canon couples nor other fandoms, because of its trash art and story.
 
Even if NaruSaku had become canon 11 years ago, you would still have a forced, trash sequel from Shueisha, written by a poor assistant who didn't have enough talent to release his own manga.
 
Kishimoto wanted to end Naruto with Naruto Gaiden and Boruto: Naruto the Movie as the final chapter after chapter 700. However, after the movie's success in 2015, Shueisha and all the sponsors forced him to accept a manga about Boruto. Kishimoto rejected the idea, so Shueisha hired Ikemoto, who they believed had the talent to take over the sequel since he was Kishimoto's former assistant.
 
 
 
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Kishimoto gave an interview last year and made it clear that he has absolutely nothing to do with the Boruto manga. He doesn't regret the canon pairings, so he isn't going to change his manga's ending. As Kishimoto said, he was totally responsible for Naruto, just as Ikemoto is for Boruto.
 
Boruto is important as GT. Nobody cares aside the few new Boruto Fans.
 
 
 
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Edited by Therece, 27 August 2025 - 08:05 AM.


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Posted 27 August 2025 - 08:13 PM

I mean from the interviews it does seem he regrets it. Thats why many fans in Japan think he sold out or was pressured to do what he did (because he acted like people told him they liked hinata and he changed the pairing due to that pressure). Theres also the disagreement from his wife about it too. Seishi and him have pairings similar to ns in most of their manga. I really do believe that him stepping back from boruto is partly because of that. The minato one shot is just more evidence that hes not a fan of the ending. Masashi provided the story for road to ninja and even now he keeps saying hell write more about sakura its not really a stretch to see that a lot of the story just nose dived in a pretty odd way. I dont believe it wouldve happened this way regardless of the pairing since other manga dont go the way Naruto did

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Posted 28 August 2025 - 10:43 PM

I still bet they'll revisit the series again. For nostalgia-sake and some extra $$$.

 

If they did a really good mini series for an anniversary, old school fans would love it! I'm still betting that they'll cash in on the nostalgia at some point. 



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Posted 29 August 2025 - 06:40 AM

I still bet they'll revisit the series again. For nostalgia-sake and some extra $$$.

 

If they did a really good mini series for an anniversary, old school fans would love it! I'm still betting that they'll cash in on the nostalgia at some point. 

Its surprising they haven't already. Though that could be because Boruto still ongoing and don't want to interfere till that's done, the movie is in production hell, and there was the mini series that was suppose to come out that could test the waters that still hasn't been released; which implies issues.

 

Its like I said years ago. The reason they wanted Boruto is because Naruto was a huge international money maker they didn't feel they could easily replace. Only for the new generation of shounen to do so before Ikemoto's lazy ass could bother to start the sequel, and make more money internationally due to the rise of streaming. Now granted, almost all the manga that surpassed it have ended and there was a drought. Not that Boruto could take advantage of it due to the fact it anime was put on hiatus by that point. Akane Banashi was very close to becoming one of the top three of Shounen Jump. Till Kagurabachi and Ichi the Witch stormed their way into those spots. Which again will delay any need to address the Naruto-Boruto issue as a money maker and how to make it one again...like till after Ikemoto's contract runs out.

 

I mean from the interviews it does seem he regrets it. That's why many fans in Japan think he sold out or was pressured to do what he did (because he acted like people told him they liked hinata and he changed the pairing due to that pressure). There's also the disagreement from his wife about it too. Seishi and him have pairings similar to ns in most of their manga. I really do believe that him stepping back from boruto is partly because of that. The minato one shot is just more evidence that he's not a fan of the ending. Masashi provided the story for road to ninja and even now he keeps saying hell write more about sakura its not really a stretch to see that a lot of the story just nose dived in a pretty odd way. I don't believe it would've happened this way regardless of the pairing since other manga don't go the way Naruto did

Samurai 8 though short live is another proof he didn't not like the ending. If you made the best romance evar in the story that only geniuses could truly understand or what ever nH/SS say about it now a days. You wouldn't spend 10 chapters of your next story going, "I am not changing the love interest," over and over again.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 03 September 2025 - 03:17 AM.


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Posted 30 August 2025 - 12:29 AM

I still bet they'll revisit the series again. For nostalgia-sake and some extra $$$.
If they did a really good mini series for an anniversary, old school fans would love it! I'm still betting that they'll cash in on the nostalgia at some point. 

Well they announced a while ago that theyre going to make a few og naruto episodes. Masashi said 10 yrs ago and also more recently he wants to write about sakuras parents but he hasnt done that yet. Theres also some interest in making a live naruto movie i hear but there were pretty terrible rumors about it

Edited by totherpage95, 30 August 2025 - 12:32 AM.


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Posted 31 August 2025 - 06:12 AM

One can tell most people are done with discussion when no has bother yet with this... low hanging fruit of a post. I'm not using the quote button because their are tabs and I'm not going to bother editing to try to make it look nice. 

 

"I mean, 11 years later, and the coping never change.  NaruSaku isn't the only paying customer. SasuSaku, NaruHina, SasuNaru, and every single character fandom are all part of Naruto's paying customer base. Don't try to give more importance to the Non Canon NaruSaku fandom who still exists in other places."
 
Naruto-Boruto has been largely irrelevant for the past decade. It barely makes any headline or has any notoriety other than the embarrassment of how far it has fallen. SasuNaru fans hated the ending and everything after. They did not like Naruto ending up with Sakura but they accepted it while whining about heteronormativity. Sasuke and Naruto are miserable loser Post-Ending, why would they support that?
 
nH/SS have taken big hits to their prestige. Hinata's movie was insignificant compared to its peers. While SS's manga was not even half of Boruto's numbers. Those pairing have come to represent the decline of the franchise.
 
Under NS it was a international best seller for 15 years. Under nH/SS its a pathetic has been of a flop that most people don't care about for likely 15 years.
 
"A 15-year story was ruined just because your pairing didn't become canon and Naruto lost his "trophy girl"? 
First of all, I don't give a damn about NaruSaku anymore, and I'm not even a fan of the Naruto character."
 
There are more to the problems with Naruto's ending than the pairing, but why bother explaining you won't listen like always. It quite clear you never cared about anything other than "dreamy bad boy only I can fix." That's not even in the manga or anime and solely exist in your head.
 
"But Naruto's goal and the manga's main point wasn't about him getting into Sakura's pants and making babies. His main objective was to become Hokage and to save and be recognized by Sasuke. Naruto got exactly what he wanted in the end. Families and children were just a bonus to complete the characters' life cycles."

 

And what's that point of him becoming Hokage? What did he accomplish? Why was it important to the story and its world Naruto became Hokage other marking off a box under character goals? Also, you are quite happy that Sakura's only goal was to get into Sasuke's pants and pop out babies. The Double Standards.

 

"A couple doesn't change anything about the manga. When Kishimoto wants to make a retcon or a bad decision, no editor can stop him. The thing is, all the NaruSaku arguments, especially the one blaming editors and popularity, don't make sense to begin with.

No editor forced Kishimoto to make Sakura's feelings for Sasuke a central part of her character. No editor forced Kishimoto to have Hinata confess in what was, at that point, Naruto's most important fight when she could have easily been forgotten. Even Neji was killed to bring them together."
 
Kishimoto gave into pressure constantly.
 
Neji was killed because a SP employee would not stop kittening at Kishimoto till he killed him. His Blood being turned into the red string of nH was after the fact to put Hinata somewhere since her original story was to end up with Neji to end the clan branch seal system.
 
The editor actually did order Kishimoto to have Hinata involve herself in the Pain fight. Then declared she was the new heroine replacing Sakura. That was the start of this mess.
 
Kishimoto himself has stated in numerous interviews he changed the end pairing because he was told Sakura was too hated to be the heroine.
 
Any change in the story, can affect the story...Will I have to eventually explain something like fire is hot to you at some point? When you switch out a pairing that has been developed for hundreds of chapters for two that one was barely developed because the writer never got the appeal and hated the other but now has to pretend that there was an romance in it. That affects the story.
 
Sakura's story was she would start off with feelings for Sasuke, a crush turned into love due the Forehead comment by Naruto. Then by the ending, she would have gotten closer to Naruto to develop feelings for him, realize Sasuke didn't have feelings for her, and the reveal that the forehead comment would allow her to move on without any lingering feelings.
 
"Even when Naruto was just beginning and needed sales to survive, Kishimoto and Yahagi took their sweet time building everything, including pairings, despite demanding circumstances. When Naruto was selling millions just by sneezing, are NaruSaku shippers truly assuming that some supposedly biased editor or Pierrot "forced" the creator, the owner of the franchise, to do what they wanted? This is especially unbelievable at the end of the manga when Kishimoto was doing whatever he wanted. Or did some editor force Kishimoto to create Kaguya?"
 
Yes. Kaguya was created to tie the Hyuuga to the Sage's story to justify Hinata becoming the Heroine.
 
Romance is the last thing you focus on for a story focused on appealing to boys. Setting up the world, characters, action, and conflicts is more important. The boy getting the girl is generally a bonus for them. While for girls that the primary focus and goal of a story.
 
The Thing is it is traditional in Shounen for the main pairing not to get together till the ending. Will they or won't they BS is the standard. Granted most manga that do that, don't go on for 15 years, but that a failure of Kishimoto not the practice. 
 
"The idea that Kishimoto was forced to do anything is ridiculous. He is the creator and owner of the franchise. He had the final say on everything, including secondary plots like pairings. If he wanted to do NaruSaku, he could have. But he didn't. He chose to do SasuSaku and NaruHina because it was his plan. That was solely his decision. There are much worse things I can list besides Kaguya:"
 
The person with the ultimate final say is the CEO of Shueisha the owner of the magazine Naruto was published in.
 
"Let me guess... 11 years later, you still think Kishimoto will magically come back and admit he only made a mistake regarding the canon pairings? NaruSaku will get another ending, keeping everything exactly the same—like Kaguya, Sasuke vs. Naruto, Naruto still being Hokage, and (New) New Era, with the same couples and themes—but only with Sakura as Naruto's wife and Shinachiku fanmade as his son isntead of Boruto and Himawari and Sasuke alone? So yeah. It's better to move on.
 
The canon couples are heavily promoted as part of the merchandise, anime, and other products precisely because they are canon. It's time to recognize this, as these couples will remain canon for the next 10, 20, and 100 years. Kishimoto isn't going to magically retcon his own manga to please a few shippers who haven't moved on and are still mad about the ending.
 
Nobody is promoting or remembering a Fanon pairing anymore. At this point, you don't even have this old "NaruSaku"" merch anymore."

 

...You were really hung up on Kaguya while typing this post. Why is that? Are you internally questioning why she exist or not and trying to convince yourself of something? Here, let me help you along. Madara was Sasuke if Naruto gave up on him. Obito was Naruto if Sasuke killed Sakura. Kaguya was the Hyuuga clan's evil ancestor. There was no villain in the final arc tied to Sakura because she was removed as the heroine...also Kishimoto has always had issue keeping her involved in the plot.

 

There would be more to fix than just the pairing. Though compare and contrast those 15 years to the last 11, it will help. Yes, when NS was the intended pairing they made merch for it and when it stopped being the pairing they stopped making merch. We are getting close to "fire is hot" territory. Unless you have figures of during and post Naruto for merchandise sales it is just speculating. 

 

"Nobody cares about Boruto, neither fans of the canon couples nor other fandoms, because of its trash art and story.
 
Even if NaruSaku had become canon 11 years ago, you would still have a forced, trash sequel from Shueisha, written by a poor assistant who didn't have enough talent to release his own manga.
 
Kishimoto wanted to end Naruto with Naruto Gaiden and Boruto: Naruto the Movie as the final chapter after chapter 700. However, after the movie's success in 2015, Shueisha and all the sponsors forced him to accept a manga about Boruto. Kishimoto rejected the idea, so Shueisha hired Ikemoto, who they believed had the talent to take over the sequel since he was Kishimoto's former assistant."
 
Pretty sure a few years ago on this site you were begging Kishimoto to come in a take over from Ikemoto to fix Boruto as its tied to your pairings.
 
Again. Boruto existed to continue making profits from Naruto and the pairing nH/SS because they were told it was popular. Once that decisions was made near the end of Naruto Kishimoto handed over the responsibility to Ikemoto. I wanted to say that was always the plan but then i realize you would take that as Kishimoto planned that from the Start of Naruto. The gaiden was NEVER intended as the ending for Naruto. Even then, if we pretend it is, Kishimoto made it a miniseries because he wanted to refute the claims that he was sexist; it was originally going to be a one shot like the one Cups got.. Now as a writer, why would Kishimoto hand over his story when he could finally write about the perfect romances of nH/SS and their perfect families. It almost as if he had no interest what so ever in them and only put them together because he was told they were popular and therefore more money....didn't work out but still.
 
Kishimoto like many mangaka was constantly under pressure to keep his manga going once it became a hit.
 
"Kishimoto gave an interview last year and made it clear that he has absolutely nothing to do with the Boruto manga. He doesn't regret the canon pairings, so he isn't going to change his manga's ending. As Kishimoto said, he was totally responsible for Naruto, just as Ikemoto is for Boruto.
 
Boruto is important as GT. Nobody cares aside the few new Boruto Fans."
 
He is a supervisor of the Boruto manga and constantly gives advice if Ikemoto asks him to help him out. He just doesn't lord over him and constantly making demands because that what happened to him during Naruto and he disliked it. 
 
Boruto is the officially recognize by the author sequel to Naruto like Super is to Dragon Ball. It is not an anime only spin off like GT. If he is backing away from Boruto being canon as you present it that only shows how bad Boruto is, and the problem for you is that your pairing exist for that manga. nH/SS were made the end pairings because they wanted a sequel that would make them the most money and they were told it was with those two pairings.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 02 September 2025 - 03:05 PM.


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Posted 01 September 2025 - 03:05 PM

there's a leak that the naruto episodes announced in 2023 are out of the production phase but take it with a grain of salt



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Posted 01 September 2025 - 03:20 PM

Apparently Youtube has decided Vtubers talking about Naruto is what I want to watch.
 
Here is one that goes off on Sakura.
 
 
Naruto was ok, Shippuden was mid, and Boruto was bad.
 
Part of it was complaining about Sakura was suppose to be equal to Naruto and Sasuke during the war arc, when they entire audience could tell her was not. The scene she got the forehead seal. Again this is largely the fault of Kishimoto never focusing on her power development like he did Naruto and Sasuke due to his held belief rivals needed to be equal in power. She really needed wood release.
 
The other part is the Sakura was a kitten for pretending to like Naruto to use him to get Sasuke. That is a misunderstanding a lot of fans have from the False Confession scene. It was suppose to be Sakura does having strong feelings but she can't let go of Sasuke due to unresolved feelings for him. The ending enforced this misunderstanding in fans and so reenforced her negative reputation. She felt Sakura should have gotten with Naruto because he was with her through out everything, and her being with Sasuke doesn't make sense.
 
The V Tuber has over a million followers.
 
For the video at the moment the only comment is (not mine): "Sakura/Sasuke romance can simply be sum up as "physical attractiveness" and nothing more."

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 14 September 2025 - 12:29 AM.


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Posted 01 September 2025 - 05:40 PM

I still bet they'll revisit the series again. For nostalgia-sake and some extra $$$.

 

If they did a really good mini series for an anniversary, old school fans would love it! I'm still betting that they'll cash in on the nostalgia at some point. 

At one point they will because Naruto became a brand. It transcended beyond just being a manga. It's a brand and they will use that.

The question now is when? And also will they learn their lesson? There would be no point in making something new if they just do the same thing.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.


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Posted 01 September 2025 - 07:48 PM

At one point they will because Naruto became a brand. It transcended beyond just being a manga. It's a brand and they will use that.

The question now is when? And also will they learn their lesson? There would be no point in making something new if they just do the same thing.

The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

Whenever Boruto is over/Ikemoto's contract is up/when they need a IP that can make them money.

 

Again, SJ isn't lacking in IP at the moment that are making them money. Likely why Part one was ended, was that Boruto's peers were all ending at the point and it was making them look at it. To realize Ikemoto was wasting time and his story was in a rut that could have part one last for 15 years on its own. Which would be nice if it was profitable, which everyone knows wasn't that case. So if we wait for the current batch to end, as Ikemoto is failling back into bad habits, they will look at part two again see waste and order it to finish. Which can be about 5 years. Granted shounen manga aren't going on for as long as during Naruto's time. Kill Blue that just ended finished before the first episode of its anime aired.

 

I think Ikemoto is in a 60 chapter contract as that's around the time Kodaichi was "let go" as his contract is up. 120 of Boruto in total chapters is 40 of part two which is 15 chapters/months from now. If they changed it to 60 chapters for part two 35 Chapters/Months from now.

 

Boruto is pretty much designed to go on forever due to its abysmal pace. From the start of part two Bolt has had three goals: defeat Punk, defeat the Tree people, Defeat Nail to release his parents. Now those could all be resolved in a single fight or he can make it go on forever.

 

It really is just how long until the company gets sick of the situation and just ends it.

 

As for will they change it? If they do continue it, they have no choice. Boruto is seen as such a black mark even by Pro-ending fans that keeping it canon only hurts the IP. Kishimoto was always a reluctant supporter of nH/SS, he only had them because he was told they would be profitable...which they clearly haven't.


Edited by Bail o' Lies, 03 September 2025 - 03:38 AM.


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Posted 02 September 2025 - 04:25 AM

The other part is the Sakura was a kitten for pretending to like Naruto to use him to get Sasuke.

Yet they had no problems when the last did this to Naruto for Sakura.  :lmao: 


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Posted 02 September 2025 - 01:49 PM

Yet they had no problems when the last did this to Naruto for Sakura.  :lmao:

In Japan, that pretty much destroyed Naruto's reputation and made him a scumbag in their eyes. To the point, I do think that it did eventually went from being completely canon to semi-canon.

 

In the West, as long as Naruto only loves Hinata they do not care how bad it makes him look, because the worst is apparently not loving only Hinata and him caring about anything else.


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Posted 03 September 2025 - 01:42 AM

I haven't finished Demon Slayer, (idk why, I started it, it was good, life just got in the way, lol) but I got the feeling like he was the Naruto Kishimoto was trying to write. An untarnished hero.

 

But...Kisihimoto always made Naruto the but of jokes too. Stupid or falling behind as a kid/teen/young adult, then a terrible dad as an adult. And not much of a hokage either. (I didn't watch Boruto. Just. Can't. Do. It. So, let me know if my opinion is wrong about that.) He was supposed to overcome his terrible past to become the hero, but Kishimoto just kept screwing him over.

 

Maybe it's just me. Anyway, when I watched Demon Slayer, Tanjiro felt like Naruto, without Kishimoto tripping him up all the time.



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Posted 03 September 2025 - 02:08 AM

I haven't finished Demon Slayer, (idk why, I started it, it was good, life just got in the way, lol) but I got the feeling like he was the Naruto Kishimoto was trying to write. An untarnished hero.

 

But...Kisihimoto always made Naruto the but of jokes too. Stupid or falling behind as a kid/teen/young adult, then a terrible dad as an adult. And not much of a hokage either. (I didn't watch Boruto. Just. Can't. Do. It. So, let me know if my opinion is wrong about that.) He was supposed to overcome his terrible past to become the hero, but Kishimoto just kept screwing him over.

 

Maybe it's just me. Anyway, when I watched Demon Slayer, Tanjiro felt like Naruto, without Kishimoto tripping him up all the time.

yeah ninkuu and the adventure of dai were also kinda like that. i think masashi was probably unhappy with the ending perhaps other people thought was good (he does say around the land of iron arc that people were trying to tell him hinata was the heroine which he pushed back on at the time) and deliberately was making naruto this terrible person at the end. the beginning makes sense since masashi himself was bullied with his twin and he wasn't a good student. it might explain why he's criticizing boruto right now
 







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