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[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Misty was the first anime girl I liked.

[BlueStarSaber]

Misty was the first anime girl I liked.

Like as in genreal or crush

Also rest in peace

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Like as in genreal or crush

Also rest in peace

General.

[BlueStarSaber]

Fair enough

Yahagi comments on western fans
https://x.com/DBZimr...774946712686829

[Nostradamus]

Fair enough

Yahagi comments on western fans
https://x.com/DBZimr...774946712686829

It describes the NH fans perfectly.

[Bail o' Lies]

Fair enough

Yahagi Kosuke comments on western fans
https://x.com/DBZimr...774946712686829

 

"We've been reading manga for a long time, so we tend to read deeper into what makes manga interesting. But many people overseas don't understand Japanese manga. I think that's probably because they don't have literacy or reading comprehension. So, ultimately, I think that Naruto doesn't require that kind of reading comprehension."

Sounds like he is saying people like Naruto over other manga because it is simple. Would help to know what the question was or the interview.

 

OK. It was an interview in 2019 on a radio show called Izakaya: Denfaminicogamer. And he was asked why was Naruto more popular than One Piece overseas? Answer. it is simpler.

 

https://news.denfami...iew/191227f#i-6 Supposedly, it is in here.

 

Well, I'm not going to disagree with the reading comprehension.

[totherpage95]

Lmao yahagi roasting us

[totherpage95]

Doubt it's ture. Also totherpage95 what the heck the live action was good!

Maybe I'm just not big on one piece. I was enjoying the bits of street fighter: assassin's fist i saw at risucon though

[Phantom_999]

Sounds like he is saying people like Naruto over other manga because it is simple. Would help to know what the question was or the interview.

 

OK. It was an interview in 2019 on a radio show called Izakaya: Denfaminicogamer. And he was asked why was Naruto more popular than One Piece overseas? Answer. it is simpler.

 

https://news.denfami...iew/191227f#i-6 Supposedly, it is in here.

 

Well, I'm not going to disagree with the reading comprehension.

 

YUP. Naruto is a simplistic manga for simplistic morons I say. You are either a reader for the greatest fictional couple ever made, Hinata Huyga-chan-megami-hime-sama and her vicarious cup of courage turned boy toy trophy husband, OR you are an illiterate Buffoon for not seeing the true moral and message of the story was the former. Naruto is a simple story for simps, TG FOR THAT. *sarcasm*

Edited by Phantom_999, 24 August 2024 - 06:37 PM.

[Derock]

Simple or not, the reading comprehension is STILL f-ed up because many fans and the people BTS complained about and for Hinata, as like she was really that important to the franchise. When we know in actuality, she wasn't.

[Nostradamus]

https://thatparkplac...g-about-the-ip/

 

Rumor: Lionsgate’s Live-Action Naruto Film Is “A Complete Disaster” With Producers Not Knowing “Anything About The IP”

Guess Kishimoto trusted Hollywood, he is a fan of Hollywood movies, and didn't keep an eye on it like Oda. Problem is most Hollywood hates Japanese entertainment and blame it for them losing viewers. Since they are not going to self reflect.

That would not surprise me at all, I've seen interviews with writers for the Disney/Marvel shows that happened after Endgame, and one of the requirements for getting the job was to know nothing about the source material.

And to those who watched those shows you saw how badly they were.

Hollywood in the last couple of years hired activists instead of people who know how to do the job. Obviously not the whole of Hollywood.

If the movie does see the light of day, I have zero hope for it being even decent, not to mention good.

 

It's a problem old as time, that people can't take any responsibility for their own screw-ups. What's worse with Hollywood is that they even went as far as attacking the fans.

[Bail o' Lies]

That would not surprise me at all, I've seen interviews with writers for the Disney/Marvel shows that happened after Endgame, and one of the requirements for getting the job was to know nothing about the source material.

And to those who watched those shows you saw how badly they were.

Hollywood in the last couple of years hired activists instead of people who know how to do the job. Obviously not the whole of Hollywood.

If the movie does see the light of day, I have zero hope for it being even decent, not to mention good.

 

It's a problem old as time, that people can't take any responsibility for their own screw-ups. What's worse with Hollywood is that they even went as far as attacking the fans.

Hollywood writers and directors have grown to hate any source material.

 

Most people think it is because they want to create their own stories not just adapt others. The problem is every time they are given the chance to do their own stories they are sheer garbage. Because they refuse to learn how to write from reading the stories that are already written, their morals are the messed up depravity that is only really accepted in the bubble of LA, and they can't be sincere about anything everything has to be ironic deconstruction meta commentary that subvert expectations with millennial style irreverent dialogue. Which people have already grown to hate because they keep putting that into IP they loved, so why would they watch something new that has everything they dislike? So their new stuff always fails. Which is why they hate and attack fanbases.

 

However by this point, they are not just destroying the stories people love, they are attacking the audience itself.

 

This led to a never ending cycle that has led to the decline of Hollywood in recent years, and the rise of alternative sources of media. As both, the audience is not watching their stuff anymore, and investors/producers are looking at those medias for profit. Not at awful Hollywood garbage, that has to go through constant reshoots because they can't get it right the first time anymore. So anything they can get their hands on of those alternative media, they will destroy it out of spite. The only way to make sure a Hollywood movie is made properly and faithful to the source material now a days. Is if there is a producer invested and powerful enough to force them to tell the story properly and force reshoots till they do. That is why Sonic, Nintendo, and One Piece have had successful western adaptations.

YUP. Naruto is a simplistic manga for simplistic morons I say. You are either a reader for the greatest fictional couple ever made, Hinata Huyga-chan-megami-hime-sama and her vicarious cup of courage turned boy toy trophy husband, OR you are an illiterate Buffoon for not seeing the true moral and message of the story was the former. Naruto is a simple story for simps, TG FOR THAT. *sarcasm*

I lost count of the number of times on this site alone I have done a page by page of a scene to show, what the scene was suppose to convey.

 

For example. What was the one I did last year... in June. The Sasuke telling Naruto to focus on sealing Kaguya.

 

My reading: "While yes, Sasuke was correct in a pragmatic sense. However, he was wrong as he went too far in telling Naruto to leave Sakura and Kakashi to just die. As it was immoral, it would negatively affect Naruto, and they can still be of use even if they can't seal Kaguya. Also, even Sasuke knows he was wrong, as Naruto was able to defeat his argument by just bringing up the Wave arc. This was to show Sasuke is still not reformed and Team 7 is not back together despite them fighting alongside each other."

 

Reddit's reading. "Sasuke is completely right." "...Oh and he still cares about Sakura deep down, he just won't admit it." When, they think for a second and realize he was advocating throwing Sakura into magma. Therece's biggest disappointment of Naruto, was Sasuke not just grabbing Sakura and throwing her into the magma himself. Most romantic SS moment that could possibly happen.   

 

That's what you are dealing with when other people read Naruto. You are lucky if they understand even surface level.

Simple or not, the reading comprehension is STILL f-ed up because many fans and the people BTS complained about and for Hinata, as like she was really that important to the franchise. When we know in actuality, she wasn't.

That because they want Hinata to be important not because she is. Westerners have been taught to think only with feelings. So they don't think about anything too much so their easier to control and convince as long as you know how to manipulate their feelings.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 25 August 2024 - 07:36 AM.

[BlueStarSaber]

Wouldn't say Hollywood is in decline, most of their films have had a good year, compared to last year. Like dune part 2, kong x godzilla new empire, Kingdom of the planet of the apes, as well as Disney with inside our 2 and deadpool & wolverine being the 2 highest grossing films of the year so far. The only real failure I can think of is the acolyte that was cancelled, though star wars might have a chance to recover with skeleton crew this year.

I can top that Bail with one ss fan I agree on twitter a couple of years back saying how they loved sasuke trying to kill sakura, because it showed how far he fell to darkness trying to kill, completely ignore that his breaking point what when he stabbed karin to get to danzo.

Pretty sure they wanted hinata to become important and be the heroine, which they got but it failed

[Niky]

Guys, sorry for the off topic. 

I can't seem to edit my forum posts. What could be the problem?

[Phantom_999]

Simple or not, the reading comprehension is STILL f-ed up because many fans and the people BTS complained about and for Hinata, as like she was really that important to the franchise. When we know in actuality, she wasn't.

 

And that is why I treat the entire franchise as a joke. You are either invested in a character whose presence and importance to the plot was never there to begin with and flog that importance over the head of everyone else until they comply/give up on the story all together, OR you are treated as an idiot for not seeing how important Hinata Hyuga-chan-megami-hime-sama was to get everything she wanted and was Naruto's stealth "true love" and were too blind to see it. You lose either way, and wonder why you bothered with it. You were either reading for a side character that never mattered or you were one of the many many MANY long time fans that got screwed over investing your time on the series BECAUSE said irrelevant side character had to be catered to. It felt like a waste of time in the grand scheme of things because you were cheated out of a proper resolution to a story you WERE passionate about, or you now find out Hinata's love never meant anything, and she only got together with Naruto because OF PITY and not because of genuine love. Hinata got the man of her dreams because she never gave up? I thought the idea was "they were always in love..." So I'm just laughing at the whole thing. READING COMPREHENSION AT IT'S FINEST FOLKS

Edited by Phantom_999, 25 August 2024 - 04:21 PM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

And that is why I treat the entire franchise as a joke. You are either invested in a character whose presence and importance to the plot was never there to begin with and flog that importance over the head of everyone else until they comply/give up on the story all together, OR you are treated as an idiot for not seeing how important Hinata Hyuga-chan-megami-hime-sama was to get everything she wanted and was Naruto's stealth "true love" and were too blind to see it. You lose either way, and wonder why you bothered with it. You were either reading for a side character that never mattered or you were one of the many many MANY long time fans that got screwed over investing your time on the series BECAUSE said irrelevant side character had to be catered to. It felt like a waste of time in the grand scheme of things because you were cheated out of a proper resolution to a story you WERE passionate about, or you now find out Hinata's love never meant anything, and she only got together with Naruto because OF PITY and not because of genuine love. Hinata got the man of her dreams because she never gave up? I thought the idea was "they were always in love..." So I'm just laughing at the whole thing. READING COMPREHENSION AT IT'S FINEST FOLKS

 

And it's SO bad because of how other manga after Naruto ended are being seeing like that too! MHA had that same issue with its finale.

[Derock]

 

And it's SO bad because of how other manga after Naruto ended are being seeing like that too! MHA had that same issue with its finale.

 

No Bryon, MHA didn't suffer the same fate as Naruto. The only reason why people assumed that because shipping fans were pissed off of the fact that Izuku didn't hook up with Ochaco (by ignoring hints, placements and BTS stuff on the reasons why they didn't happen) and the finale parts were rushed for "certain reasons that were beyond Horikoshi's control". MHA's saving grace was the themes of its story was still in place, unlike Naruto's.

[Kagomaru]

 

No Bryon, MHA didn't suffer the same fate as Naruto. The only reason why people assumed that because shipping fans were pissed off of the fact that Izuku didn't hook up with Ochaco (by ignoring hints, placements and BTS stuff on the reasons why they didn't happen) and the finale parts were rushed for "certain reasons that were beyond Horikoshi's control". MHA's saving grace was the themes of its story was still in place, unlike Naruto's.

And a resolution for Izuku x Ochako is likely going to be covered in the additional story content that Horikoshi talked about for the Final Volume as well as the databook that's going to be compiled.

[totherpage95]

Wouldn't say Hollywood is in decline, most of their films have had a good year, compared to last year. Like dune part 2, kong x godzilla new empire, Kingdom of the planet of the apes, as well as Disney with inside our 2 and deadpool & wolverine being the 2 highest grossing films of the year so far. The only real failure I can think of is the acolyte that was cancelled, though star wars might have a chance to recover with skeleton crew this year.

I can top that Bail with one ss fan I agree on twitter a couple of years back saying how they loved sasuke trying to kill sakura, because it showed how far he fell to darkness trying to kill, completely ignore that his breaking point what when he stabbed karin to get to danzo.

Pretty sure they wanted hinata to become important and be the heroine, which they got but it failed

At this point the one thing lucasfilm could do is put effort into a knights of the old republic live version. No sense cancelling something and not have anything to replace it. After disney's recent fiasco where they added a non litigation portion to their terms of service which came up when one of their customers died i won't lie I'm not in much hurry to subscribe to disney plus with so much to risk. Much of their problem is the insistence on removing established lore and replacing it with things like "vergences". Why remove prior lore when the new lore doesn't make sense. It's the same problem that the sequel trilogy movies have and lets be honest if disney isn't going to bother releasing something good then just adapt a popular game to keep the brand from being abandoned from understandably upset fans

Edited by totherpage95, 26 August 2024 - 04:18 PM.

[TheFirstEvil100]

 

And that is why I treat the entire franchise as a joke. You are either invested in a character whose presence and importance to the plot was never there to begin with and flog that importance over the head of everyone else until they comply/give up on the story all together, OR you are treated as an idiot for not seeing how important Hinata Hyuga-chan-megami-hime-sama was to get everything she wanted and was Naruto's stealth "true love" and were too blind to see it. You lose either way, and wonder why you bothered with it. You were either reading for a side character that never mattered or you were one of the many many MANY long time fans that got screwed over investing your time on the series BECAUSE said irrelevant side character had to be catered to. It felt like a waste of time in the grand scheme of things because you were cheated out of a proper resolution to a story you WERE passionate about, or you now find out Hinata's love never meant anything, and she only got together with Naruto because OF PITY and not because of genuine love. Hinata got the man of her dreams because she never gave up? I thought the idea was "they were always in love..." So I'm just laughing at the whole thing. READING COMPREHENSION AT IT'S FINEST FOLKS

Lol, well, I have read many of Tolkien's books, so I guess I have more brains than the fans who still read this just to see who will hook up in Boruto, as that is all they care about while we wanted to see how Naruto would become Hokage.

 

Hinata fans- They just wanted Hinata to get her happy ending.

 

SS fans- well we know how crazy they can be lol.