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#3141 trang95

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:55 PM

Really? I didn't know , I wish him and all you could understand this video Sawyer knows spanish:

 

Yeah, I've only been learning Spanish for 2 1/2 months... Too bad. I never thought that I would have to learn Spanish to understand a RATIONAL and UNBIASED movie reviewer.

Can anyone translate or summarize what he is saying. I'm so done to hear all the Narutoreviewers I love to call NaruHina cannon  :wallbash:


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:56 PM

Hmpf, I don't want to be on a ship that only still floads because of advertisment and filler. I much rather stay in my ship that's build out of real development. I ratther go down with my ship. This guy is getting to kinky. When we get canon, I'll make sure to show him just how wrong he was.  :hm:

lol yeah and its kinda sad that the main reason fornevorworld and alot of other nh fans ship NH is solely predicated on the fact that she has big boobs. i hope these guys never get in a relationship because if thats what they think love is they are in for a rude awakening.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:56 PM

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:57 PM

Really? I didn't know , I wish him and all you could understand this video Sawyer knows spanish:
 

 

He's saying that he doesn't care much about NH like before. He also mentioned that he checked narusaku forums and people were overreacting, and that the mod had to close threads, so he obviously meant Narusaku.com

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:57 PM

My break down of things to come in the movie in relation to the manga.

1. The memory flashback: (scarf, etc.)
So apparently in the movie, we have this flashback of when Naruto and Hinata met when they were younger. I guess this is where Hinata first fell in love with Naruto or something
-Where the hell did this flashback come from?
-Why is this being brought up now and never in the manga?
-How could have Naruto forgotten this? Or hell, how did Hinata forget this? Naruto may be an idiot, but how did Hinata not bring this up at all during the manga? This seems rather a forced exposition just to explain Hinata's origins.
-How come Naruto after this incident seem to ignore HInata completely after that? This makes Naruto seem like an uncaring scumbag. Yeah you can argue they were just kids, but now this is making Naruto worse than he actually was and Kishimoto is setting his main character in a bad light.
-When did Naruto ever wear scarfs in the manga? Now all of a sudden he has this strong fascination with them, apparently.

2. 2 years?
Apparently this movie's plot takes place 2 years after the manga.

-What the hell happened in 2 years time? So you mean to tell me that Naruto never confessed his feelings to Sakura in those two years time or nothing really changed at all? Everyone was basically on auto-pilot?
-How could this be seen as believable with this? 2 years and Naruto makes no mention of the confession in the manga or in that time? We have to wait so far into the future for him to finally say something and it takes Hanabi being kidnapped to do it? Come on. That's just ridiculous.
-What was Hinata doing in those 2 years as well? Was she continuing to be that stalker and not saying anything? Again, why 2 years of nothing?

3. Why Hinata?
The entire manga focuses on Naruto's journey, Naruto's dreams, and Naruto's ambitions...
-Why have this whole plot centered around Hinata? What is so special about Hinata that could not be explained in the manga, had to be put into this movie, and asspulled into relevance?
-Why any of this? This is like making a Dragonball Z movie where the whole plot revolves around Bulma.
-Why hasn't Hinata changed at all during those 2 years time?

4. How does this all tie back into the manga?
Kishi says that this story follows the plot of the manga and follows through from it. I have seen nothing in this movie that relates anything to the plot. Not even the characters feel the same from their manga counter part. The only one that has remained the same appears to be Hinata.
-In order for this movie to make any sense that means you have to make the ending to the manga ambiguous. No NH, no NS, no SS, nothing. Nothing can be resolved because the movie forbids it. If you make NH canon in the manga, then the movie's plot makes no sense on Hinata's whole regrets. If you make NS canon, then this looks like a cheap cop-out to giving Hinata some kind of closure and what is the point of that? if you make NS canon in the manga, but make NH canon in the movie...then what?
-If SS and NH are canon and this movie is going to show that, then how the hell did these characters change so quickly?
-Why is Naruto constantly getting the short end of the stick? Can't be Hokage, apparently can't get the girl he wants, and apparently can't even be the main character of his own story.

5. What of the Moon Falling plan?
So apparently this descendant of Kaguya wanted to destroy the earth using the moon and he does so by...kidnapping a Hyuga.
-Why?
-Why do you need a Hyuga to do this plan? Specifically, why did you need Hinata?

-How could you have confused Hanabi for Hinata?
-Why...why need a Hyuga at all?

6. Why is it all depressing?
This is supposed to be a romance story of sorts
-Why is everything so dark and depressing? I have not seen one smile on Hinata or Naruto throughout every preview.
-If NH is canon, why does it look like Naruto doesn't want to be there?
-Why is Hinata always crying in these apparent "romantic scenes?" "She is worried about her sister." So is the story about Hanabi or Hinata? What can Hinata not love Naruto unless Hanabi is returned?

I have so many more questions and problems with this that I have no idea where to begin. I literally have to wait for the last chapter of the manga to make any sense of it all and hopefully get a clue about any of it. None of it sounds good.

 


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:58 PM

I think that now that the biased trailer is out we can all relax. :sleepy:

It feels good.



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:59 PM

Thanks for the answer. However I have one more question if you don't mind. Is it any different that the desktop version. Because I have a Windows Phone and when I enter NS it's the same version as the desktop. So I'm wondering if windows phone just doesn't support the mobile version for this website.

 

You will. When the time is right.

 

Yes its different. Looks like this.

 

Example

 

If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the page there should be a option to use the mobile version. I am not familiar with a windows phone but maybe if you use a different browser like google chrome it will work. 


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 05:59 PM

Next week really cannot get here soon enough.



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:00 PM

lol yeah and its kinda sad that the main reason fornevorworld and alot of other nh fans ship NH is solely predicated on the fact that she has big boobs. i hope these guys never get in a relationship because if thats what they think love is they are in for a rude awakening.

As a women, I find i pretty rude to simply want the main character to be with a girl becuase of her boobs. And he said it several times, so nobody can tell me he doesn't care about that. Hopefully without sounding too weird, I have got a bit of size, but if a guy would go out with me because of that, I would turn him down without thinking twice. There is more to a women than breast size or ass. 


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:00 PM

I think that now that the biased trailer is out we can all relax. :sleepy:
It feels good.

Its biased alright, but why is the plot Hyuga centric? There must be a reason.

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:03 PM

Just in case anyone was wondering, a few additional pages and their translations from the information guide have been released. 

 

Databook pages and translations

 

I think it's safe to conclude now that what's being released on the 4th is a Databook. 

 

The Gedou Mazou, the remaining shell of the Juubi, was sealed in the moon. Hamura took command of the clan to watch over the Mazou.

 

I had this theory that Hamura's clan was the one that watched over the Mazou and that clan later evolved into the Uzumaki Clan, that's why they were so good at Seals they needed the knowledge to reseal the 10 tails if they ever became free, and it was Madara controlling the Mizukage that ordered the distruction of the village and that's how he got hold of the ten tails body. This movie disproves that theory.

 

I bet the real reason this guy wants to start a war is because his clan has had one job for centuries, only to screw up and lose the Ten Tails without even realising, and then these two upstarts come along and manage to seal the Ten tails in a different dimension so it can no longer be used as a weapon and now he they are jobless.....maybe the love story is between Hinata and the new enemy, 1000 years is enough for the clan to no longer be considered relatives right?

 

Edit: Sorry I meant four, can't forget Kakashi and Sakura'a involvement, she did land the final blow.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:05 PM

Its biased alright, but why is the plot Hyuga centric? There must be a reason.

Kishi is starting to get tired of having everything related to the Uchiha.

 

And there is apparently more movies to come, so maybe will it be Uzumaki centric next time ??



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:05 PM

I'm not excited about next week honestly...it feels as though kishi wants NH to be end game all of a sudden now :/ it'll just be two asspull chapters -shrug- hope I could be proven wrong but eh..

 

this is unfair...all that development...I didn't leave NH for no reason..

 

anyways

 

did anyone translate what Ino's words say on the bottom of her pic yet? anything important? or is she just gonna be trashed to the side again?


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:06 PM

Can someone please translate the CV for the rest of the cast? Not only Naruto, Sakura and Hinata? e_e

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:06 PM

Yeah, I've only been learning Spanish for 2 1/2 months... Too bad. I never thought that I would have to learn Spanish to understand a RATIONAL and UNBIASED movie reviewer.

Can anyone translate or summarize what he is saying. I'm so done to hear all the Narutoreviewers I love to call NaruHina cannon  :wallbash:

He is neutral reviewer for Naruto, he can bash the character but in the end he is  pro- Narusaku and by end  Sakura and Naruto will be together. And NH fans will keep dreaming. 


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:07 PM

James S Cassidy >> Please make a tumblr post with what you wrote so I can reblog it (*_*) !

 

Also, I just thought about something... how come Sakura has very little screentime in the trailers ? I mean, she's still the heroine of the manga and we only see her scream "Naruto !" and hold Hinata's shoulders. However, a lot of drawings of her from SP have been released, so we can deduce she has a fairly decent amount of screen time, right ?
So, what if, JUST what if, SP can not release any movie part in which Sakura is involved because it would reveal how close she is to Naruto and it would spoil the whole Hinata romantic thing ? After all, if Hinata has a big role in this movie, and if Sakura, with her generous heart is encouraging her to talk to Naruto, then maybe Hinata will ask Naruto for his answer, and it will be negative ?
It's just theory, but I thought it was strange not to see much of Sakura (because maybe she's too involved with Naruto ?).



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:07 PM

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:08 PM

 

Yes its different. Looks like this.

 

Example

 

If you scroll all the way to the bottom of the page there should be a option to use the mobile version. I am not familiar with a windows phone but maybe if you use a different browser like google chrome it will work. 

Much obliged.

No, I don't have that. Even if the settings on the phone are set to mobile. It goes straight to the desktop version.

Since I have a Windows Phone, I'm really limited in apps. I'll try to use Opera mini because Chrome on WP is a big no no.

Again thanks.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:08 PM

Just in case anyone was wondering, a few additional pages and their translations from the information guide have been released.

Databook pages and translations


I think it's safe to conclude now that what's being released on the 4th is a Databook.

Yes, it said that on the cover. :P Thank you for sharing! Cute that the Sage bros are twins, I love that (I'm a twin too so is always think that's cool haha). I hope we get more info on Hamura, how silly to introduce a character and pretty much not expand on them at all.

And lmao, they actually refer to it as 'Rinnesharingan.' Nice.

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 06:08 PM

lol yeah and its kinda sad that the main reason fornevorworld and alot of other nh fans ship NH is solely predicated on the fact that she has big boobs. i hope these guys never get in a relationship because if thats what they think love is they are in for a rude awakening.

Sometimes, I wonder whether they'd worship Hinata, if Hinata instead of Sakura was in Team 7. Imagine how annoyed they'd actually be. I don't hate Hinata, but I think that her shyness and fangirling over Naruto would have looked just as bad as Sakura's crush over Sasuke in Team 7. Honestly, Sakura is in a stupid and complicated position since she keeps on trying to catch up with her two teammates who currently are some of the strongest ninjas in world. As much as Sakura tries, she will never be on the same level, but EVERYONE expects it from her to have this supernatural powerup. Unless you have female characters like Mikasa from AOT, Erza from Fairy Tail or Saber from Fate/ Stay Night (one of my favorite female character btw ^^), people, especially guys, have a hard time to recognize many main female characters.

And again: What would people think IF HINATA WAS IN TEAM 7?!


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