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#3141 redragon88

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 03:51 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Aug 4 2012, 10:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That said I still think we are in good standings, how about we start predicting the future? That way if one of us are spot on we can claim bragging rights.

NARUTO AND SAKURA VS TOBI

Make it happen Kishi!

Although since it seems that Kakashi might be the key to defeating Tobi I don't know how it could happen now. On the other hand Kakashi could get tired of using the MS so maybe they'll need another strategy to deal the finishing blow.

#3142 Branden

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 04:02 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Aug 4 2012, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NARUTO AND SAKURA VS TOBI

Make it happen Kishi!

Although since it seems that Kakashi might be the key to defeating Tobi I don't know how it could happen now. On the other hand Kakashi could get tired of using the MS so maybe they'll need another strategy to deal the finishing blow.

Yeah, Kakashi can't overuse the thing like he's been doing, honestly I'm suprised he hasn't shown any signs of exhaustion.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 04:42 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Aug 5 2012, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah, Kakashi can't overuse the thing like he's been doing, honestly I'm suprised he hasn't shown any signs of exhaustion.

The last time I heard, if he used kamui more than 2 or 3 times in a day he would get so exhausted that he would need to stay in the hospital for days. But now it seems he's able to spam the crap out of it.

Maybe he found a secret scroll that contains the infinite chakra cheat codes. laugh.gif

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 04:54 AM

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I predict that Naruto will reject Hinata's offer for a relationship after the Tobi battle and he will tell Hinata how much he loves Sakura, than Hinata decides to help NaruSaku become canon some type of way later in the story. That's all I got now for predictions.


I doubt that will happen, but if it did, that would be a huge burn to the NH fans... I'll actually feel kind of bad for them until they start bashing Sakura again to compensate for their non-canon pairing.

So let's say NS happens... I'm trying to imagine what will happen to the Naruto fandom... Well, obviously NS fans will be celebrating, some will be rubbing it in the faces of others, although I don't agree with that. Thread titles? "Why NS Shouldn't Have Happened," "WTF Kishi?" "I've lost respect for Kishi as a writer." The bashing of Sakura will definitely increase by a lot... Do you think some people will bash Naruto, too?

Normally, we don't have much NH and SS fans coming over here, do you think they will start to come here more frequently? I think there will be tumblr posts under the NS tag about smug NS fans. I'm just trying to grasp what will happen.

Also, will any of you argue with NH and SS fans about what pairing should have happened, or will you guys just celebrate? I definitely won't be arguing with people about which pairing should have happened, lol.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 04:55 AM

Hmm Predictions.....

Tobi puts Naruto in a tsukuyomi or an equally strong genjutsu. Naruto in the genjutsu, feels all the trauma he's faced. And he starts to feel very miserable and lonely in the red and black world. Then he sees a light shine through and the next moment he opens his eyes he sees Sakura next to him holding his hand(to awaken him from the genjutsu) and the rest of Konoha eleven there at the battle scene surrounding him.

I got this idea from the scene of Naruto, Killer Bee, Raikage and Tsunade. Where they said he needs a sun or light to fill the hole in the heart. Like Minato had Kushina, or Killer Bee had Raikage. Hope Sakura could be one for Naruto. (Well, Naruto said that his parents were his two suns, but they are not alive to support him)


QUOTE (Traci @ Aug 5 2012, 02:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I doubt that will happen, but if it did, that would be a huge burn to the NH fans... I'll actually feel kind of bad for them until they start bashing Sakura again to compensate for their non-canon pairing.

So let's say NS happens... I'm trying to imagine what will happen to the Naruto fandom... Well, obviously NS fans will be celebrating, some will be rubbing it in the faces of others, although I don't agree with that. Thread titles? "Why NS Shouldn't Have Happened," "WTF Kishi?" "I've lost respect for Kishi as a writer." The bashing of Sakura will definitely increase by a lot... Do you think some people will bash Naruto, too?

Normally, we don't have much NH and SS fans coming over here, do you think they will start to come here more frequently? I think there will be tumblr posts under the NS tag about smug NS fans. I'm just trying to grasp what will happen.

Also, will any of you argue with NH and SS fans about what pairing should have happened, or will you guys just celebrate? I definitely won't be arguing with people about which pairing should have happened, lol.

It's actually the main reason why I want Kishi to make it NaruSaku before the end of the series. As you guys know, the number of NaruSaku fans grow when they have positive development, sometimes converting NaruHina fans and SasuSaku fans to NaruSaku fans. If he makes NaruSaku obvious in the middle point then we don't have to endure this Sakura bashing fest from NHinata's fans that "the story was asspul" "There was no NaruSaku proof" yada yada and so on. I know there will still be many people in denial and bashing, but at least sane people would understand if NaruSaku became canon in the middle part of the story, that they are canon and deal with it or convert themselves to NaruSaku fans.

Also having NaruSaku canon in the middle of the story gives us a chance to see why they are so fit for each other. If they become together in the ending, we don't know what kind of relationship they have. People are going to make threads of, how Naruto is going to break-up with Sakura and marry Hinata because he figured out Sakura never got over Sasuke, or after they dated they realized they only felt each others as siblings and blah blah blah.

But yeah, I know it won't be cannon until the end of the story so I guess I'd have to live with it.

Edited by narunarunaru, 05 August 2012 - 05:07 AM.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 05:42 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Aug 5 2012, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The last time I heard, if he used kamui more than 2 or 3 times in a day he would get so exhausted that he would need to stay in the hospital for days. But now it seems he's able to spam the crap out of it.

Maybe he found a secret scroll that contains the infinite chakra cheat codes. laugh.gif


Well, I'm chalking that up as Kakashi being able to control his chakra better when using Kamui now, so he doesn't have to waste so much chakra using it. Also, I think Bee shared some extra chakra for him so Kakashi doesn't have to worry about keeling over.

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#3147 Branden

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 06:31 AM

@reddragon

so is that signature like yaoi or what? I cant quite tell. you don't have to answer I've just been curious about it for a while now.


QUOTE (Codus N @ Aug 4 2012, 10:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I'm chalking that up as Kakashi being able to control his chakra better when using Kamui now, so he doesn't have to waste so much chakra using it. Also, I think Bee shared some extra chakra for him so Kakashi doesn't have to worry about keeling over.


that is absolute hax! If people can just give others chakra then why doesnt everyone in the leaf village just raise there arms to the sky and give there energy to Naruto so he can use the spirit bomb on tobi? chakra should be bound to a single entity with the exception of sealing techniques.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 07:22 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Aug 5 2012, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@reddragon

so is that signature like yaoi or what? I cant quite tell. you don't have to answer I've just been curious about it for a while now.




that is absolute hax! If people can just give others chakra then why doesnt everyone in the leaf village just raise there arms to the sky and give there energy to Naruto so he can use the spirit bomb on tobi? chakra should be bound to a single entity with the exception of sealing techniques.


i will try to answer on behalf of reddragon.

that's characters from novel/anime/manga name to aru majutsu no index. the left one is boy his name is toma and the right is girl, her name is mikoto misaki. and no that's yaoi. well it kind like narusaku. at least misaki is a loveable tsundere.



#3149 ramenanmitsu

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 07:35 AM

QUOTE (rocci @ Aug 5 2012, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i will try to answer on behalf of reddragon.

that's characters from novel/anime/manga name to aru majutsu no index. the left one is boy his name is toma and the right is girl, her name is mikoto misaki. and no that's yaoi. well it kind like narusaku. at least misaki is a loveable tsundere.

to be more precise her name is misaka mikoto. And in japan she's called a "biridere", not tsundere biggrin.gif
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Posted 05 August 2012 - 07:40 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Aug 4 2012, 11:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
that is absolute hax! If people can just give others chakra then why doesnt everyone in the leaf village just raise there arms to the sky and give there energy to Naruto so he can use the spirit bomb on tobi? chakra should be bound to a single entity with the exception of sealing techniques.

For the most part I agree with your point. I'm not defending the theory Codus has about Kakashi, but there are instances where chakra can be and is transferred from one ninja to another. An example would be when Chiyo used the One's Own Life Reincarnation to give her life force to Gaara. That was an exchange of chakra, not a donation, but she didn't have enough chakra left to actually do the technique so Naruto donated some of his to help her complete it.

I think general medical ninjutsu might fall into this category as well, since chakra is given by the medic to the patient to facilitate and speed healing. The best example would be Tsunade's Healing Chakra Transmission.

As with Chiyo's One's Own Life Reincarnation, the other Resurrection techniques (Edo Tensei, Gedo Rinne Tensei) don't qualify, since chakra is expended by a ninja and channeled through a spiritual medium, regenerating chakra in the dead. That's an exchange, not a donation.

We obviously know that the tailed beasts can and do loan their chakra, but I don't see how Bee could have loaned chakra to Kakashi via the Hachibi. Maybe Codus can explain what he meant.




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Posted 05 August 2012 - 08:33 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 4 2012, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I predict that Naruto will reject Hinata's offer for a relationship after the Tobi battleand he will tell Hinata how much he loves Sakura, than Hinata decides to help NaruSaku become canon some type of way later in the story. That's all I got now for predictions.

The only way I think that'd happen is if Kishi gets really, and I mean REALLY, pissed off at how much NaruHina fans bash his main heroine. I guess this would certainly hit them where it hurts, but I still think it's unlikely.

QUOTE (Paptala @ Aug 4 2012, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Okay -- I say the next pairing moment is going to happen after the current battle with Tobi is concluded (either temporarily by retreat by one side, or because he's defeated and someone else -- aka Sasuke or Madara -- is the final villain. I would guess that it involves Sakura healing Naruto, hopefully with some meaningful conversation happening at or about the same time.

Well Naruto isn't actually injured right now, he's just exhausted. Also in Kyuubi mode he's basically invincible to anything but sheer chakra force, hence the reason why Orochimaru's sword didn't do sh!t.


QUOTE (redragon88 @ Aug 4 2012, 08:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
NARUTO AND SAKURA VS TOBI

Make it happen Kishi!

Although since it seems that Kakashi might be the key to defeating Tobi I don't know how it could happen now. On the other hand Kakashi could get tired of using the MS so maybe they'll need another strategy to deal the finishing blow.


I think I'm hoping for this the most.

QUOTE (narunarunaru @ Aug 4 2012, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmm Predictions.....

Tobi puts Naruto in a tsukuyomi or an equally strong genjutsu. Naruto in the genjutsu, feels all the trauma he's faced. And he starts to feel very miserable and lonely in the red and black world. Then he sees a light shine through and the next moment he opens his eyes he sees Sakura next to him holding his hand(to awaken him from the genjutsu) and the rest of Konoha eleven there at the battle scene surrounding him.

I got this idea from the scene of Naruto, Killer Bee, Raikage and Tsunade. Where they said he needs a sun or light to fill the hole in the heart. Like Minato had Kushina, or Killer Bee had Raikage. Hope Sakura could be one for Naruto. (Well, Naruto said that his parents were his two suns, but they are not alive to support him)

Again, that seems a bit too romantic for the Naruto series. Also I don't were going to see any genjutsu from Tobi unless it's the infinite tsukuyomi, in which case N-wait.... I don't need to scream, we have technology that does that for us : Darth Vader Scream

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 08:34 AM

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For the most part I agree with your point. I'm not defending the theory Codus has about Kakashi, but there are instances where chakra can be and is transferred from one ninja to another. An example would be when Chiyo used the One's Own Life Reincarnation to give her life force to Gaara. That was an exchange of chakra, not a donation, but she didn't have enough chakra left to actually do the technique so Naruto donated some of his to help her complete it.

I think general medical ninjutsu might fall into this category as well, since chakra is given by the medic to the patient to facilitate and speed healing. The best example would be Tsunade's Healing Chakra Transmission.

As with Chiyo's One's Own Life Reincarnation, the other Resurrection techniques (Edo Tensei, Gedo Rinne Tensei) don't qualify, since chakra is expended by a ninja and channeled through a spiritual medium, regenerating chakra in the dead. That's an exchange, not a donation.

We obviously know that the tailed beasts can and do loan their chakra, but I don't see how Bee could have loaned chakra to Kakashi via the Hachibi. Maybe Codus can explain what he meant.


All righty then, here:

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Up there, we see Kakashi having direct physical contact with Gyuuki/Bee.

Next, we see Kakashi saying this here:

"Good, this much chakra should be enough."

We know Kakashi has below average chakra level. Why would he say the amount of chakra he gathered would be enough when it's obvious time and again he stated he doesn't have a large amount of chakra?? surely ripping off the Gedo's head would need above average chakra level. Why did he feel confident about it?? We know that the man is just as shrewd as his sensei. He wouldn't have done things for no reason let alone commit suicide unless he had no choice.

So, why??

Simple. He asked Bee/Hachibi to donate chakra to him so that he can use Kamui with no worries. It's the same when Naruto donated some of his chakra for Chiyo's technique, there was physical contact between them.

The difference between this and Medical Ninjutsu is that Medical Ninjutsu requires the knowledge necessary to help the body's healing capabilities. a simple chakra donation is just adding chakra to another's chakra to increase physical stamina. If anyone read FT, a good example for this would be the difference between Sky DS Magic & Sky GS magic.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 09:42 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Aug 5 2012, 02:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
@reddragon

so is that signature like yaoi or what? I cant quite tell. you don't have to answer I've just been curious about it for a while now.

You thought Mikoto was a boy? 111189.gif Just don't let her catch you saying that or else she'll electrocute you to death. The poor girl has enough body issues as it is, especially since she considers herself flat-chested.

Still, look at the sig again more carefully, you can clearly see that her chest has breasts. Also, look at my avatar, she's also there while wearing a skirt.

I highly recommend the series. It's pretty good.

QUOTE (narunarunaru @ Aug 5 2012, 03:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
to be more precise her name is misaka mikoto. And in japan she's called a "biridere", not tsundere biggrin.gif

I also hear that some fans have nicknamed her "thundere" because of her electric abilities. Mikoto is the clear definition of a tsundere done right.

Edited by redragon88, 05 August 2012 - 09:44 AM.


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Posted 05 August 2012 - 10:23 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Aug 5 2012, 02:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You thought Mikoto was a boy? 111189.gif Just don't let her catch you saying that or else she'll electrocute you to death. The poor girl has enough body issues as it is, especially since she considers herself flat-chested.

Still, look at the sig again more carefully, you can clearly see that her chest has breasts. Also, look at my avatar, she's also there while wearing a skirt.

I highly recommend the series. It's pretty good.


I also hear that some fans have nicknamed her "thundere" because of her electric abilities. Mikoto is the clear definition of a tsundere done right.

sad.gif thundere you say.... I'll keep my mouth shut.
I was leaning towards female, but I wasn't sure. Also everyone's chest has breasts :\
The difference is in size.

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It's not a skirt, it's a KILT! A KILT!!!!

Edited by Branden, 05 August 2012 - 10:25 AM.

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Posted 05 August 2012 - 02:12 PM

This is a bit OT, but could anyone tell me the chapters where it was shown, from Irukas POV, how the attitudes inside village changed rearding Naruto.
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Posted 06 August 2012 - 04:56 AM

Sorry to change the subject but I saw a screen shot of Sakura threw her boot at Naruto face, I just wanna know is that from a movie or a episode. Somebody post this screen shot a NF in the Anti-SS forum.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 04:59 AM

QUOTE (4000TMNT @ Aug 6 2012, 12:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry to change the subject but I saw a screen shot of Sakura threw her boot at Naruto face, I just wanna know is that from a movie or a episode. Somebody post this screen shot a NF in the Anti-SS forum.

I already answered it in the forum. Go back to Anti-SS forum.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 05:03 AM

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I already answered it in the forum. Go back to Anti-SS forum.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 09:37 AM

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Oh, Thanks


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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:58 PM

QUOTE (Hak @ Aug 5 2012, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is a bit OT, but could anyone tell me the chapters where it was shown, from Irukas POV, how the attitudes inside village changed rearding Naruto.

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