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Posted 06 September 2014 - 01:13 PM

More like a nuclear. The denial and cross taggers felt like it was never going to end. There were lots of posts about how Zuko and Katara are a better fit, Aang is too young and immature for Katara, Zuko and Katara had more in common, and the breakdown from episodes about how they're attracted to each other. It eventually settled down. But as soon as there was confirmation that there was another avatar in the works the shipping wars were on again. You had numerous posts about how Katara slept with Zuko behind Aangs back and that she eventually broke up with him. But that all changed when we found out that Aang and Katara had 3 beautiful children together and are happily married. They were definitely getting it on in bed and the Zutarians couldn't stand it.

There was shipping wars in AtLA??? There was a Zutara fandom?! Why? Didn't Zuko love some other Fire-nation girl? And he ended up with her right? Crazy fans. Shippers sometimes completely lose common-sense and judgement skills that God has given to them. *sighs*


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 01:17 PM

There was shipping wars in AtLA??? There was a Zutara fandom?! Why? Didn't Zuko love some other Fire-nation girl? And he ended up with her right? Crazy fans. Shippers sometimes completely lose common-sense and judgement skills that God has given to them. *sighs*

I KNOW! I said the same thing like what! I'm about to crack...I must be calmed...

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Posted 06 September 2014 - 01:33 PM

Oh my god...

That's...what can I say? That's just...I don't know. I guess they were hoping for Aang to leave or die and move in with Zuko and start their own family. Funny, because in LoK, they did that but with Katara but supposedly with Toph, which I am still a bit baffled in a way, but ok. Anyway, what a scary world. This fandom will explode. I need to buy armors now.

It's not over by a long shot. There are still Zutarians that are still holding out that an old Katara and Zuko is now possible since Aang is dead. lol they don't get that Katara's love died along with Aang.


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 01:37 PM

It's not over by a long shot. There are still Zutarians that are still holding out that an old Katara and Zuko is now possible since Aang is dead. lol they don't get that Katara's love died along with Aang.

I know. It's nuts.

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Posted 06 September 2014 - 01:40 PM

 

the second season is what do you think is bad? uhh

you didn't answered with the video, that's why the line is hilarious :/ you ruined my moment ;_;

and i told you, the red haired is mine behind the scenes >:c

 

 

No, the second half of season one was bad. That whole fairy world stuff. The first part of season one and the current season are really good.

Sorry, the video wouldn't load when I tried to watch it XD but no, she's all mine!

 

Wow wow wow guys, no need to fight over me! I'm Minato's but my bromance with @theunburnt might piss him off at times  :chuckle:

 

Same here. There are already a ton of people saying that Sabo would destroy Luffy low-dif. I get a lot of hate for saying how much I like Akainu since he killed Ace lol. Luffy has a long way to go before he can even make Akainu sweat.

 

Luffy is the best, period. But I only dislike a character for the character itself, even if Zoro's fandom says some bs, Zoro would never make me dislike him. 

 

There is an anti LadyGT tag on tumblr? Just wtf?!   :twitch:

 

I smell jealousy because she's an awesome artist and she's on our side  :hehehe:


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 01:45 PM

lol I'm surprised someone has got the balls to come out and say they hate ladygt without being anonymous.


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 01:52 PM

lol I'm surprised someone has got the balls to come out and say they hate ladygt without being anonymous.

That is true. I think all gloves are off.

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Posted 06 September 2014 - 01:55 PM

That is true. I think all gloves are off.

They are acting all mighty on the Internet but I bet they are actually crying internally because LadyGT is not on their side.


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 01:55 PM

That is true. I think all gloves are off.

That's what it feels like too. I guess it's because Naruto is about to end so they might as well get it off their chest lol. 


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 01:59 PM

There was shipping wars in AtLA??? There was a Zutara fandom?! Why? Didn't Zuko love some other Fire-nation girl? And he ended up with her right? Crazy fans. Shippers sometimes completely lose common-sense and judgement skills that God has given to them. *sighs*

 

The avatar last airbender shipping wars were among the shortest but also bloodiest shipping wars in recent years, the deal with Zutara was that many thought it would occur, be in truth, even a ship like SS had a better chance because well Zutara they both began as foes, SS they both began as comrades, but yeah, in the case of Zutara, this ship was just composed of among one of the most insistent, evidence ignoring, evidence fabricating, etc ships that could ever exist in any fandom.

 

When Zuko didn't go good at the end of part 2, this was the point of no return, fans continued to hope this would occur, but by that point when this season ended in 2006, it was too far too late. Because up to that point, in season 1, zuko was an enemy and spent his time hunting them. In season 2 he was an anti-hero going among himself and with his uncle, but the limited contact they had was only so slightly positive near the end in the prison, it all blew out in their faces when zuko went evil again and then had to spend another half season learning how he lost himself in this event. Finally by season 3, Zuko and katara made up, in episode 15, but guess what, by the time this happened, Aang and Katara had already gotten plenty of moments and were otherwise set, Zuko himself had a lot of time with Mai, even then there were only 5 episodes left in the series, the parody episode, the ember island players and then the 4 part finale. And fans of Zutara STILL expected and believed it would come!

 

But oh no, this ship is notable because even the creators themselves tried it, didn't like the end result in concept, and came to hate it, ultimately in a comic-con after the finale, they did the equivalent of sinking their ship to nothing but a smoldering ruin with a fanart parody event and making Aang and Katara have children. Now there are fans of this ship 6 years later still beliving it can happen when Zuko and Katara are older than 80?.......

 

Yeah thats just enough, as anyone can ship what they want, thats not bad, but for those still believing that it could come or those arguing why it should occur, they don't understand how a story works, the sheer fact Zuko and katara hardly interacted is one thing, the other being that it was Aang and katara along with zuko and mai interaction that occurred more.

 

I didn't take part in this war, it was otherwise too obvious to know the end result, but the way this war turned out, I think its a good analogy to many of the similar fans in the NH and SS fandom who should realize, that in some similar aspects, their ship may not go canon just because of popularity or because they want it too, even for deals of concepts, if NH or SS was an originally planned pairing, but didn't go through in the end, thats why it was a concept, things are just made in times long before a point in the story comes and well if kishi and his team toyed with it and didn't like the result of NH and/or SS, this is very much the same case, its story plots like this that are just concepts, they could have been used but were not, and I bet there are plenty of story concepts kishi and his team had but never brought out.

 

As bad as the naruto pairing wars have got, you will start to see some similar stuff the further this stuff goes on and well with the recent event of the 3rd girl like kushina event, this has sent NH and SS fans into overdrive because with it hinting Sakura currently, as she is the only girl to fit kushinas "mold" given kushinas backstory from herself and Minato meeting Sakura, well that's enough evidence for where things may go even though other fans may not like it.

 

The avatar pairing wars were devastating though mainly because of how short and violent they were, as much as people frown upon the naruto ones, this was much worse and its only continued due to the new series, "Avatar pairing war 2." But this war was bad because even years after their defeat, Zutara fans continue to say why theirs should have gone canon despite the fact, it made no freaking sense in the end at that point. This is what will happen in the naruto war as well.


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 02:08 PM

 

The avatar last airbender shipping wars were among the shortest but also bloodiest shipping wars in recent years, the deal with Zutara was that many thought it would occur, be in truth, even a ship like SS had a better chance because well Zutara they both began as foes, SS they both began as comrades, but yeah, in the case of Zutara, this ship was just composed of among one of the most insistent, evidence ignoring, evidence fabricating, etc ships that could ever exist in any fandom.

 

When Zuko didn't go good at the end of part 2, this was the point of no return, fans continued to hope this would occur, but by that point when this season ended in 2006, it was too far too late. Because up to that point, in season 1, zuko was an enemy and spent his time hunting them. In season 2 he was an anti-hero going among himself and with his uncle, but the limited contact they had was only so slightly positive near the end in the prison, it all blew out in their faces when zuko went evil again and then had to spend another half season learning how he lost himself in this event. Finally by season 3, Zuko and katara made up, in episode 15, but guess what, by the time this happened, Aang and Katara had already gotten plenty of moments and were otherwise set, Zuko himself had a lot of time with Mai, even then there were only 5 episodes left in the series, the parody episode, the ember island players and then the 4 part finale. And fans of Zutara STILL expected and believed it would come!

 

But oh no, this ship is notable because even the creators themselves tried it, didn't like the end result in concept, and came to hate it, ultimately in a comic-con after the finale, they did the equivalent of sinking their ship to nothing but a smoldering ruin with a fanart parody event and making Aang and Katara have children. Now there are fans of this ship 6 years later still beliving it can happen when Zuko and Katara are older than 80?.......

 

Yeah thats just enough, as anyone can ship what they want, thats not bad, but for those still believing that it could come or those arguing why it should occur, they don't understand how a story works, the sheer fact Zuko and katara hardly interacted is one thing, the other being that it was Aang and katara along with zuko and mai interaction that occurred more.

 

I didn't take part in this war, it was otherwise too obvious to know the end result, but the way this war turned out, I think its a good analogy to many of the similar fans in the NH and SS fandom who should realize, that in some similar aspects, their ship may not go canon just because of popularity or because they want it too, even for deals of concepts, if NH or SS was an originally planned pairing, but didn't go through in the end, thats why it was a concept, things are just made in times long before a point in the story comes and well if kishi and his team toyed with it and didn't like the result of NH and/or SS, this is very much the same case, its story plots like this that are just concepts, they could have been used but were not, and I bet there are plenty of story concepts kishi and his team had but never brought out.

 

As bad as the naruto pairing wars have got, you will start to see some similar stuff the further this stuff goes on and well with the recent event of the 3rd girl like kushina event, this has sent NH and SS fans into overdrive because with it hinting Sakura currently, as she is the only girl to fit kushinas "mold" given kushinas backstory from herself and Minato meeting Sakura, well that's enough evidence for where things may go even though other fans may not like it.

 

The avatar pairing wars were devastating though mainly because of how short and violent they were, as much as people frown upon the naruto ones, this was much worse and its only continued due to the new series, "Avatar pairing war 2." But this war was bad because even years after their defeat, Zutara fans continue to say why theirs should have gone canon despite the fact, it made no freaking sense in the end at that point. This is what will happen in the naruto war as well.

This actually makes me appreciate SS a little !!! Never thought that could ever happen  :rofl:


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 02:12 PM

 

The avatar last airbender shipping wars were among the shortest but also bloodiest shipping wars in recent years, the deal with Zutara was that many thought it would occur, be in truth, even a ship like SS had a better chance because well Zutara they both began as foes, SS they both began as comrades, but yeah, in the case of Zutara, this ship was just composed of among one of the most insistent, evidence ignoring, evidence fabricating, etc ships that could ever exist in any fandom.

 

When Zuko didn't go good at the end of part 2, this was the point of no return, fans continued to hope this would occur, but by that point when this season ended in 2006, it was too far too late. Because up to that point, in season 1, zuko was an enemy and spent his time hunting them. In season 2 he was an anti-hero going among himself and with his uncle, but the limited contact they had was only so slightly positive near the end in the prison, it all blew out in their faces when zuko went evil again and then had to spend another half season learning how he lost himself in this event. Finally by season 3, Zuko and katara made up, in episode 15, but guess what, by the time this happened, Aang and Katara had already gotten plenty of moments and were otherwise set, Zuko himself had a lot of time with Mai, even then there were only 5 episodes left in the series, the parody episode, the ember island players and then the 4 part finale. And fans of Zutara STILL expected and believed it would come!

 

But oh no, this ship is notable because even the creators themselves tried it, didn't like the end result in concept, and came to hate it, ultimately in a comic-con after the finale, they did the equivalent of sinking their ship to nothing but a smoldering ruin with a fanart parody event and making Aang and Katara have children. Now there are fans of this ship 6 years later still beliving it can happen when Zuko and Katara are older than 80?.......

 

Yeah thats just enough, as anyone can ship what they want, thats not bad, but for those still believing that it could come or those arguing why it should occur, they don't understand how a story works, the sheer fact Zuko and katara hardly interacted is one thing, the other being that it was Aang and katara along with zuko and mai interaction that occurred more.

 

I didn't take part in this war, it was otherwise too obvious to know the end result, but the way this war turned out, I think its a good analogy to many of the similar fans in the NH and SS fandom who should realize, that in some similar aspects, their ship may not go canon just because of popularity or because they want it too, even for deals of concepts, if NH or SS was an originally planned pairing, but didn't go through in the end, thats why it was a concept, things are just made in times long before a point in the story comes and well if kishi and his team toyed with it and didn't like the result of NH and/or SS, this is very much the same case, its story plots like this that are just concepts, they could have been used but were not, and I bet there are plenty of story concepts kishi and his team had but never brought out.

 

As bad as the naruto pairing wars have got, you will start to see some similar stuff the further this stuff goes on and well with the recent event of the 3rd girl like kushina event, this has sent NH and SS fans into overdrive because with it hinting Sakura currently, as she is the only girl to fit kushinas "mold" given kushinas backstory from herself and Minato meeting Sakura, well that's enough evidence for where things may go even though other fans may not like it.

 

The avatar pairing wars were devastating though mainly because of how short and violent they were, as much as people frown upon the naruto ones, this was much worse and its only continued due to the new series, "Avatar pairing war 2." But this war was bad because even years after their defeat, Zutara fans continue to say why theirs should have gone canon despite the fact, it made no freaking sense in the end at that point. This is what will happen in the naruto war as well.

The crossroads of destiny was the episode that Zutarians truly believed that Katara had feelings for Zuko lol. The death threat Katara gave to Zuko was just sexual tension to them.

 

Can't you feel the love?

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Posted 06 September 2014 - 02:17 PM

The crossroads of destiny was the episode that Zutarians truly believed that Katara had feelings for Zuko lol. The death threat Katara gave to Zuko was just sexual tension to them.

 

Can't you feel the love?

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Posted 06 September 2014 - 02:45 PM

Gotta love those requests toward Lady GT to stop drawing  NS in Kishi's style  My God!!! The buthurt  is over the charts with this guys and Lady is handling that very good she just keep trolling them cEuedMe.gifcEuedMe.gifcEuedMe.gif.


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 03:03 PM

Pretty funny that I could imagine they thought they would win with that ending fight with Zuko thanking Katara and vice versa. Well, that one was way more "value" than 685 if you ask me. So yeah...

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Posted 06 September 2014 - 03:05 PM

The crossroads of destiny was the episode that Zutarians truly believed that Katara had feelings for Zuko lol. The death threat Katara gave to Zuko was just sexual tension to them.

 

Can't you feel the love?

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If Sakura hears that Sasuke  wants  to kill Naruto , we  need some of that threat in NS if Sasuke comes back to Konoha.


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 03:16 PM

Lady GT's fan made art is awesome I don't understand why people have to hate.



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Posted 06 September 2014 - 03:18 PM

Lady GT's fan made art is awesome I don't understand why people have to hate.

It's really getting out of hand now.


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 03:29 PM

Lady GT's fan made art is awesome I don't understand why people have to hate.

Because they are immature insane little brats who can't stand that an artist like her is NS and that because of her we have such an amazing NS  fanart and doujin that is on the level of the canon manga   and they wish they had her in their fandom  that's why they are begging her to draw NH and SS or stop drawing NS they really are insane Lol .


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Posted 06 September 2014 - 03:37 PM

You should check out forneverworld's video on chapt 691 the raging is real






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