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Posted 16 February 2015 - 12:49 PM

No, just no. Boss was a character with inside conflict. Kishimoto's work was just put a hard hand into writing his story, not dramaticaly changing 95% of it.

Good point. But sigh........

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 12:54 PM

Good point. But sigh........

Sigh......


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:06 PM

 
Okay, I re-listened and reread everything. I'll be paraphrasing everything because I can't translate everything word by word.
 
There's this novel [in China probably, not sure if it's just the character's name or also the title of the novel] called Tie Xin Lan and she's known as one of the most hated characters. Masashi Kishimoto's Naruto also has a similar character, Sakura, and it can be said that she's even worse than Tie Xin Lan.
 
Among the female characters in the novel, who would be the most hated one? Everyone would say Tie Xin Lan because she loves two guys [can't bother to write their names since they're irrelevant]. One moment she would be crying because of one of the guys and at another moment, she would be in the arms of the other. People call her fickle and indecisive [not exactly these words but close]. But recently, there's another character who's even more hated than Tie Xin Lan and that is Sakura.
 
The online users'/fans? nickname for Sakura is Tie Xin Ying [Not sure if it's Tie Xin Lan's actual twin or fans came up with it] because they think that they're both similar, perhaps even worse than Tie Xin Lan. They believe that Sakura only cries and uses Naruto and that she doesn't know something something [not sure], it's not an exaggeration to call her Tie Xin Ying.
 
The last straw was when Sakura lied and confessed to Naruto in order to save Sasuke, in which everyone criticised her for, and decided to kill Sasuke herself but she couldn't do it and just cried. Not only that, she also fell under Sasuke's genjutsu and needed Naruto to save her. A user complained saying. "Even as a fellow female, I can't stand her anymore. She always needs Naruto to save her again and again.."
 
Even with this, Sakura and Sasuke still ended up together in the end. Fans find it unbelievable, considering the amount of the interactions they have with each other. Sakura only liked Sasuke due to his appearance and flirted with him. In chapter 693, Sasuke even said so himself that he finds no reason to like her or to be liked by her.
 
Fans were glad.
 
Even Sasuke had said that himself, how do you expect us to accept this? To the point of using the "forehead poke" between Itachi and Sasuke [brothers].. This has caused an uproar among fans, "Using the forehead poke is unacceptable! Why? Why? [not exact words]" This particular scene has been used as spoofs, displaying Sakura's death.
 
The forehead poke between Sasuke and Sakura has been parodied and photoshopped with blood coming out of her forehead [head bursting? Not sure about this.] Fans commented that this is the actual scene and Masashi Kishimoto had to edit it so that the chapter can be published. Another parody or spoof that fans came up with is that the album cover of The Last shows Naruto and Hinata walking alongside each other in a field with a sad and dull atmosphere and on the left was Sakura's grave. They were just done with Sakura's funeral. We can only say that the netizens are creative, their resentment towards her is apparent [somewhere along these lines].
 
And the rest is information on Chie Nakamura's signing event.
 
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Wow.. I just.. I have no words. My ears and eyes are bleeding.

Most refreshing news I've read in weeks. Looks like we have a lot of like-minded people in China. We should find a way to communicate with them. 

 

Now that I think about it, we're always talking about the western fanbase, but I wonder. What about the fanbase in China and other Asian countries? How big is their fanbase when compared to the west? What is the mood towards the ending in those countries.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:07 PM

we did know why though 0.o she jumped into kakashi's path to kill herself because she had become a jinchuriki and was gonna be used against the village

  
I know, I just worded that wrong. I meant that we knew she jumped in front of him, but we didn't know why until a while later. We were left hanging until Obito said something about it 50 chapters later lol

That article just cut a brutal promo on Sakura.

Lol damn. It's well deserved too. Next up is Naruto, then Kishi and SP.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:09 PM

Good point. But sigh........

I could say that Sakura was more like Otacon, but she fought with Sasori AND Goddess of shinobi, but in general it's same problem as Otacon she got.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:11 PM

Otacon? I like him. Sadly, which he did say, he has the worst luck and surprise he can managed to move forward. Not easy, man...

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:29 PM

Now that I think about it, we're always talking about the western fanbase, but I wonder. What about the fanbase in China and other Asian countries? How big is their fanbase when compared to the west? What is the mood towards the ending in those countries.

 

I don't know. Let's review to the turnout and box office estimates from Indonesia, Malaysia, and The Philippines for TL to acquire a better understanding of Naruto's popularity in those countries. Someone needs to find it. I hope NS4Life will volunteer. 



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:31 PM

Alright I gotta ask......do all of you guys "generally" hate Naruto and Sakura now? Or just "what's become of them" that is you hate? I'm just having a hard time telling which is true from reading your comments and just worried is all...

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:36 PM

 
I don't know. Let's review to the turnout and box office estimates from Indonesia, Malaysia, and The Philippines for TL to acquire a better understanding of Naruto's popularity in those countries. Someone needs to find it. I hope NS4Life will volunteer. 

I'll keep my eye on it.

Speaking of Philippines, did they ever screen The Last?

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:38 PM

Alright I gotta ask......do all of you guys "generally" hate Naruto and Sakura now? Or just "what's become of them" that is you hate? I'm just having a hard time telling which is true from reading your comments and just worried is all...

Can't say about all, but I don't hate them, poor characters got killed. Both became worse then ever and who's deserve hate - it's Kishimoto and his writting.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:49 PM

Alright I gotta ask......do all of you guys "generally" hate Naruto and Sakura now? Or just "what's become of them" that is you hate? I'm just having a hard time telling which is true from reading your comments and just worried is all...

I will always love both Naruto and Sakura before this "ending", and I will always defend both of them. However I cannot and will not ever like or defend what they have become. Or to be more precise what they did with them.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:49 PM

Alright I gotta ask......do all of you guys "generally" hate Naruto and Sakura now? Or just "what's become of them" that is you hate? I'm just having a hard time telling which is true from reading your comments and just worried is all...


Don't care about them. The both deserve everything that gets said about them. I like the real Naruto and Sakura, but the way the ended up, they deserved to get crushed in the public eye.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 01:50 PM

Alright I gotta ask......do all of you guys "generally" hate Naruto and Sakura now? Or just "what's become of them" that is you hate? I'm just having a hard time telling which is true from reading your comments and just worried is all...

 

None. I'm blaming all of this on Kishi, the writer.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 02:00 PM

Rihanna > Beyonce.

Yo- Nf85  I'm really happy for you ,

 

I'mma let you finish........................ 

 

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Okay, I re-listened and reread everything. I'll be paraphrasing everything because I can't translate everything word by word.
 
There's this novel [in China probably, not sure if it's just the character's name or also the title of the novel] called Tie Xin Lan and she's known as one of the most hated characters. Masashi Kishimoto's Naruto also has a similar character, Sakura, and it can be said that she's even worse than Tie Xin Lan.
 
Among the female characters in the novel, who would be the most hated one? Everyone would say Tie Xin Lan because she loves two guys [can't bother to write their names since they're irrelevant]. One moment she would be crying because of one of the guys and at another moment, she would be in the arms of the other. People call her fickle and indecisive [not exactly these words but close]. But recently, there's another character who's even more hated than Tie Xin Lan and that is Sakura.
 
The online users'/fans? nickname for Sakura is Tie Xin Ying [Not sure if it's Tie Xin Lan's actual twin or fans came up with it] because they think that they're both similar, perhaps even worse than Tie Xin Lan. They believe that Sakura only cries and uses Naruto and that she doesn't know something something [not sure], it's not an exaggeration to call her Tie Xin Ying.
 
The last straw was when Sakura lied and confessed to Naruto in order to save Sasuke, in which everyone criticised her for, and decided to kill Sasuke herself but she couldn't do it and just cried. Not only that, she also fell under Sasuke's genjutsu and needed Naruto to save her. A user complained saying. "Even as a fellow female, I can't stand her anymore. She always needs Naruto to save her again and again.."
 
Even with this, Sakura and Sasuke still ended up together in the end. Fans find it unbelievable, considering the amount of the interactions they have with each other. Sakura only liked Sasuke due to his appearance and flirted with him. In chapter 693, Sasuke even said so himself that he finds no reason to like her or to be liked by her.
 
Fans were glad.
 
Even Sasuke had said that himself, how do you expect us to accept this? To the point of using the "forehead poke" between Itachi and Sasuke [brothers].. This has caused an uproar among fans, "Using the forehead poke is unacceptable! Why? Why? [not exact words]" This particular scene has been used as spoofs, displaying Sakura's death.
 
The forehead poke between Sasuke and Sakura has been parodied and photoshopped with blood coming out of her forehead [head bursting? Not sure about this.] Fans commented that this is the actual scene and Masashi Kishimoto had to edit it so that the chapter can be published. Another parody or spoof that fans came up with is that the album cover of The Last shows Naruto and Hinata walking alongside each other in a field with a sad and dull atmosphere and on the left was Sakura's grave. They were just done with Sakura's funeral. We can only say that the netizens are creative, their resentment towards her is apparent [somewhere along these lines].
 
And the rest is information on Chie Nakamura's signing event.
 
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Wow.. I just.. I have no words. My ears and eyes are bleeding.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 02:00 PM

 
Okay, I re-listened and reread everything. I'll be paraphrasing everything because I can't translate everything word by word.
 
There's this novel [in China probably, not sure if it's just the character's name or also the title of the novel] called Tie Xin Lan and she's known as one of the most hated characters. Masashi Kishimoto's Naruto also has a similar character, Sakura, and it can be said that she's even worse than Tie Xin Lan.
 
Among the female characters in the novel, who would be the most hated one? Everyone would say Tie Xin Lan because she loves two guys [can't bother to write their names since they're irrelevant]. One moment she would be crying because of one of the guys and at another moment, she would be in the arms of the other. People call her fickle and indecisive [not exactly these words but close]. But recently, there's another character who's even more hated than Tie Xin Lan and that is Sakura.
 
The online users'/fans? nickname for Sakura is Tie Xin Ying [Not sure if it's Tie Xin Lan's actual twin or fans came up with it] because they think that they're both similar, perhaps even worse than Tie Xin Lan. They believe that Sakura only cries and uses Naruto and that she doesn't know something something [not sure], it's not an exaggeration to call her Tie Xin Ying.
 
The last straw was when Sakura lied and confessed to Naruto in order to save Sasuke, in which everyone criticised her for, and decided to kill Sasuke herself but she couldn't do it and just cried. Not only that, she also fell under Sasuke's genjutsu and needed Naruto to save her. A user complained saying. "Even as a fellow female, I can't stand her anymore. She always needs Naruto to save her again and again.."
 
Even with this, Sakura and Sasuke still ended up together in the end. Fans find it unbelievable, considering the amount of the interactions they have with each other. Sakura only liked Sasuke due to his appearance and flirted with him. In chapter 693, Sasuke even said so himself that he finds no reason to like her or to be liked by her.
 
Fans were glad.
 
Even Sasuke had said that himself, how do you expect us to accept this? To the point of using the "forehead poke" between Itachi and Sasuke [brothers].. This has caused an uproar among fans, "Using the forehead poke is unacceptable! Why? Why? [not exact words]" This particular scene has been used as spoofs, displaying Sakura's death.
 
The forehead poke between Sasuke and Sakura has been parodied and photoshopped with blood coming out of her forehead [head bursting? Not sure about this.] Fans commented that this is the actual scene and Masashi Kishimoto had to edit it so that the chapter can be published. Another parody or spoof that fans came up with is that the album cover of The Last shows Naruto and Hinata walking alongside each other in a field with a sad and dull atmosphere and on the left was Sakura's grave. They were just done with Sakura's funeral. We can only say that the netizens are creative, their resentment towards her is apparent [somewhere along these lines].
 
And the rest is information on Chie Nakamura's signing event.
 
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Wow.. I just.. I have no words. My ears and eyes are bleeding.

Each and every word written in this is the truth.



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Posted 16 February 2015 - 02:13 PM

I can't write Sakura as a character anymore. I will give my self a few years before I could write her again. The same with Naruto.Thank god Naruto end. One terrible chapter of my life is over. AMEN.



 


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 02:23 PM

Amazing how a lot can see the assassination of Sakura before their very eyes. And people think we are the only one. Yeah, ok.

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Posted 16 February 2015 - 02:27 PM

Amazing how a lot can see the assassination of Sakura before their very eyes. And people think we are the only one. Yeah, ok.

The ones that "don't see" the assassination actually see it. Their vision is just obstructed by their pairing and favoritism towards Sasuke and Hinata, especially Hinata.


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These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 02:34 PM

Alright I gotta ask......do all of you guys "generally" hate Naruto and Sakura now? Or just "what's become of them" that is you hate? I'm just having a hard time telling which is true from reading your comments and just worried is all...

Nope, I do not hate them, they had many moments together enough to love them, that is why one of the reasons I am here is NS.


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Posted 16 February 2015 - 02:34 PM

The ones that "don't see" the assassination actually see it. Their vision is just obstructed by their pairing and favoritism towards Sasuke and Hinata, especially Hinata.

I got to say, whoever wrote it is my hero of the week already. Not because it's stating SS means terrible but the fact it's published to the board where a lot of people can see and have the sense of us not being alone. This is clear as 50 Shades being horribly written. It's that bad.

By the way, what's up with top couple talk from earlier in here?





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