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#3101 Tsubaki

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:05 PM

Holy smoly! Now I understand why Kishi puts so much emphasis on Hinata...

 

I'm still shocked by the fact that Hiashi and Hanabi are more popular than Hinata and they barely appear..

 

Thank you ramen after seeing this I became a NH fan

 

NH is definitely the end pairing because Hyuuga is Konoha's Strongest!!!  :excited:


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:05 PM

You deserve the battle portrait of when Hiashi won the battle against Madara with Juuken Ichigekishin!! 

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"Hyuuga is Konoha's Strongest."

 

 

 

This is proof of when Hiashi destroyed the mountains with Hakke Kuusho.

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"Hyuuga is Konoha's Strongest." 

 

 

 

 

 

This is when Hiashi defeated Kabuto with his Hakkesho Kaiten.

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"Hyuuga is Konoha's Strongest."

 

Please tell me that this is just a ridiculous attempt at a parody and not what a segment of the fanbase actually believes is possible.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:23 PM

 

Please tell me that this is just a ridiculous attempt at a parody and not what a segment of the fanbase actually believes is possible.

This is a parody of Hiashi's, "Hyuuga is Konoha's strongest." (The most popular quote in Naruto. Next popular quote is Itachi's "doctor snake". )

 

 

Holy smoly! Now I understand why Kishi puts so much emphasis on Hinata...

Yes, indeed. She is the daughter of Konoha's strongest. 

 

 

After all those proofs I have to say: "Hyuuga is Konoha's Strongest."   :yes: 

Glad that you finally understand the manga. 

 

Thank you ramen after seeing this I became a NH fan

 

Hyuuga is Konoha's strongest. Naruto is too weak to be accepted in the Hyuuga Clan. 


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:39 PM

We should go back to topic but yeah, that was funny. Lol. Somebody tried to make ObiRin as SS but wow, talk about demolished by others in NF. Well, good try I guess.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:42 PM

The only proof we need to prove that Obi/Rin is a parallel of NS is that Rin has love Obito but she realized her feelings for him after he died. This could be improved to Sakura if she already knows she loves Naruto before anything unfortunate happens to him. I'm not saying Naruto is going to die but he might experience a life and death situation. that might put his life at risk. 


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 03:50 PM

The only proof we need to prove that Obi/Rin is a parallel of NS is that Rin has love Obito but she realized her feelings for him after he died. This could be improved to Sakura if she already knows she loves Naruto before anything unfortunate happens to him. I'm not saying Naruto is going to die but he might experience a life and death situation. that might put his life at risk. 

We can only hope Kakashi knows how to get back home right now, before Obito goes bye-bye. That said it's a win-win because the past couldn't go to a good route, to the point that Kakashi was going there until Naruto happened, so you can say Naruto gave Kakashi hope that anything can change. So yeah, NS is full of win.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:03 PM

The only proof we need to prove that Obi/Rin is a parallel of NS is that Rin has love Obito but she realized her feelings for him after he died. This could be improved to Sakura if she already knows she loves Naruto before anything unfortunate happens to him. I'm not saying Naruto is going to die but he might experience a life and death situation. that might put his life at risk. 

Where was it hinted that Rin loved Obito? :-o

 

I thought she loved Kakashi to her last breath. And I know there is an argument that says this is a hint for SS, but Obito loves Rin after 15 years too so that's not fair XD


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:07 PM

Where was it hinted that Rin loved Obito? :-o

 

I thought she loved Kakashi to her last breath. And I know there is an argument that says this is a hint for SS, but Obito loves Rin after 15 years too so that's not fair XD

I think the message was that if Rin did love Obito, then there's hope, even though I see it two ways that makes NS win-win. Not sure who will argue that but I remember seeing the topic getting demolished, so it's not good attempt. Even Kakashi didn't love Rin like that, so lost for SS. Lastly, Obito only has one direction and never love anyone else. Sakura has two as Naruto really only has one. Hinata is not in his radar, so don't try.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:14 PM

I think the message was that if Rin did love Obito, then there's hope, even though I see it two ways that makes NS win-win. Not sure who will argue that but I remember seeing the topic getting demolished, so it's not good attempt. Even Kakashi didn't love Rin like that, so lost for SS. Lastly, Obito only has one direction and never love anyone else. Sakura has two as Naruto really only has one. Hinata is not in his radar, so don't try.

I won't deny the possibility, but I wouldn't count on it.

 

Obito assumed Rin only loved Kakashi until she died(because he left them and had no idea what was going on in her head at time), the same way Naruto assumed Sakura only loves Sasuke. :P We can't know for sure, but maybe we'll see something from Rin's perspective one day, in a flashback or a rinne tensei. I really hope Rin doesn't get RT though, I don't think her role is any bigger than this.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:47 PM

I want Obito to be happy and I wanted Kakashi to try and save him, but it looks like Kishi is avoiding that cliche, cliche route



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 04:48 PM

I won't deny the possibility, but I wouldn't count on it.

 

Obito assumed Rin only loved Kakashi until she died(because he left them and had no idea what was going on in her head at time), the same way Naruto assumed Sakura only loves Sasuke. :P We can't know for sure, but maybe we'll see something from Rin's perspective one day, in a flashback or a rinne tensei. I really hope Rin doesn't get RT though, I don't think her role is any bigger than this.

 

That's right. The last confirmation we got about Rin's feelings was when she tried to confess her love for Kakashi right after Obito was buried in the rocks. I still find it awkward that she attempted it just after Kakashi had told her about Obito's own love for her, but I guess Rin was just extremely distressed with the whole situation.

 

Obito had just died and there was a chance she would've lost Kakashi as well so maybe she wanted to express what had been in her mind in order to not have regrets later. Afterwards she's ominously watching the sky without letting us know her thoughts.

 

From then her feelings are simple conclusions of Obito based on what he knew up to that point. It would be an interesting twist to have some implication about Rin developing love for Obito, although I can't even imagine how Kishi would go about it. Still, given that Rin has come back to Obito's thoughts I do get the feeling we might see more in regards to her in order to have Obito change his mind about his views.

 

I don't think Rin will be rinne tensei'd, nor would I want to. If Obito is going to die then it would just be better to have him reunite with Rin in the afterlife in order to begin anew.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 06:28 PM

Or maybe Rin just never liked Obito....never really had a chance too, unlike NS



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:11 PM

Or maybe Rin just never liked Obito....never really had a chance too, unlike NS

 

As of now that's how things are, unless Kishi wants some plot twist. It depends on the direction he chooses to go in.

 

Also, I wouldn't conclude Obito never had a chance with Rin, the problem is that Rin died so any chance for it also died with her. You never know how their relationship would've progressed had Rin stayed alive and Obito not gone insane.

 

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So I'm guessing "Hyuuga is Konoha's strongest" is some sort of meme going around in Japan? Pretty funny.

 

Hyuuga is Konoha's strongest. Naruto is too weak to be accepted in the Hyuuga Clan. 

 

Naruto wouldn't be able to handle Hinata in all her amazonian glory.

 

After all, Hyuuga is Konoha's strongest!


Edited by redragon88, 26 June 2013 - 07:17 PM.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:25 PM

 

As of now that's how things are, unless Kishi wants some plot twist. It depends on the direction he chooses to go in.

 

Also, I wouldn't conclude Obito never had a chance with Rin, the problem is that Rin died so any chance for it also died with her. You never know how their relationship would've progressed had Rin stayed alive and Obito not gone insane.

 

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So I'm guessing "Hyuuga is Konoha's strongest" is some sort of meme going around in Japan? Pretty funny.

 

 

Naruto wouldn't be able to handle Hinata in all her amazonian glory.

 

After all, Hyuuga is Konoha's strongest!

 

Well as you said having Rin resurrected so he can stop Madara would keep their relationship pretty much unresolved.

He dies she may have warmed up to him.

When he comes back Rin dies.

Years he suffers because of her death then at the moment of his death he decides to sacrifice himself to resurrect Rin, and for what?

As a mindset he could wish to give Kakashi a second time or just do it out of love for Rin but it may end up being more cruel than keeping her dead.

All she can is cry again next to his corpse.

 

Still if you look at his right hand's joint you can see that not all of his hand is yet covered by the black so we can assume that he still has control over hands and his rinnegan eye. Also because he is the only alive individual that has the rinnegan he is Madara's only shot of ressurecting.

 

Hopefully next chapter we will see Obito managing to fight back Madara's will ( helped by Rin's memory) so that Minato and Naruto could help him in a way.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 07:25 PM

Wait, that's a meme from Japan? Lol.

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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:13 PM

 

Well as you said having Rin resurrected so he can stop Madara would keep their relationship pretty much unresolved.

He dies she may have warmed up to him.

When he comes back Rin dies.

Years he suffers because of her death then at the moment of his death he decides to sacrifice himself to resurrect Rin, and for what?

As a mindset he could wish to give Kakashi a second time or just do it out of love for Rin but it may end up being more cruel than keeping her dead.

All she can is cry again next to his corpse.

 

Still if you look at his right hand's joint you can see that not all of his hand is yet covered by the black so we can assume that he still has control over hands and his rinnegan eye. Also because he is the only alive individual that has the rinnegan he is Madara's only shot of ressurecting.

 

Hopefully next chapter we will see Obito managing to fight back Madara's will ( helped by Rin's memory) so that Minato and Naruto could help him in a way.

It would be great if Obito revive all the people he killed since this war and the people who died because of this war, that would be the best way for him to die, I don't want to see any pity towards his character unless he does something like Nagato, but my guts feelings tells me that he may not save anyone and only be used to revive Madara, I hope not.



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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:26 PM

The only proof we need to prove that Obi/Rin is a parallel of NS is that Rin has love Obito but she realized her feelings for him after he died. This could be improved to Sakura if she already knows she loves Naruto before anything unfortunate happens to him. I'm not saying Naruto is going to die but he might experience a life and death situation. that might put his life at risk. 

 

Yeah... I think she mentioned something like this in the Kakashi Gaiden Filler Arc after everyone thought Obito died. But can't find any info on that. 


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 09:31 PM

 

Yeah... I think she mentioned something like this in the Kakashi Gaiden Filler Arc after everyone thought Obito died. But can't find any info on that. 

Kakashi gaiden wasnt filler this moment is on the manga aswell.


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Posted 26 June 2013 - 11:10 PM

Well I went to my local bookstore today to look and see if they had zelda, hyrule histora but they did not have it, then I chose to look in the manga section, I see Naruto volume 61 was the closest they had currently. I saw some past volumes and wanted to see the english translations and what I saw just made me want to vomit.

 

I looked in some chapters like 472 or so (whatever one Sai's clone tells Naruto about Sakura's real plan towards Sasuke) and 573.

 

In 472 (around there) they make Sai say "She was being considerate towards your feelings" I don't want to make this sound like there is some translation conspiracy or that Viz is completely biased or milking the NH crowd for as much as they can, but when spoken like this it makes it seem like others would have thought she was always mean to Naruto just because of the considerate word. In 573, the path towards radiance or light in english, it basically translated Hinata's section about stop running after Naruto and holding his hand walking with him, Sakura's however they make her speech tend to focus on everyone rather than Naruto. It went like this in the scanned stuff: "Naruto you saved konha, now you are trying to save the entire shinobi world, you always get left with these big tasks but this time its going to be different, no matter what you say we are going to be together, we are all going to fight together this time. Viz translation however: "Naruto you saved konha, now you are saving the entire shinobi world, everyone always trusts you to do the impossible, everyone here trusts you, I trust you, this time we all fight together." That just didn't seem as good as the scanned one. It didn't have the same voice of power in the other when Sakura was referring to herself in 573 by the scanulation translations. Geez its not a matter of money to some people, the translation can make all the difference merely by words. This almost makes it seem like Sakura was not trusting or fully faithful in Naruto. Ugh what will they make Naruto say when 631 rolls around?



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Posted 27 June 2013 - 12:02 AM

Naruto wouldn't be able to handle Hinata in all her amazonian glory.

 

After all, Hyuuga is Konoha's strongest!

Naruto is only a side character.

 

The Kyuubi hid himself when Naruto held hands with Hinata. 

Poor pup, he might have kitten himself being close to Konoha's strongest!

 

Wait, that's a meme from Japan? Lol.

That's what I was saying....What did you think it was? lol

 

If you don't know this you will be attacked. There was one clueless user who posted that "Hashirama should be the strongest character!" in the Naruto character power rank thread.

The poor guy was attacked with a flood of comments from other users.

"What manga were you reading. The strongest is Hiashi!"

"Hyuuga is Konoha's strongest!"  

 

And therefore Hiashi is always ranked SSS when Madara and Hashirama is S+. 


Edited by ramenanmitsu, 27 June 2013 - 12:04 AM.

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