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#31101 Liu bie

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 05:35 PM

Lady  art and Natsumi33 art they  make a fan dream and  happy.


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#31102 Hiraishin

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 05:40 PM

I absolutely love other fanart. It's just ladygt is my fav  :wub:

Oh for sure. Yes, I'm very grateful to have her in the fandom. :3

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 05:43 PM

I absolutely love other fanart. It's just ladygt is my fav  :wub:

You don't love Kishi's art for NS?


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 05:44 PM

Lady  art and Natsumi33 art they  make a fan dream and  happy.

You should check out Pooper and Kozakura. Their art is simply breathtaking.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 05:45 PM

A promise where holds no significance.
 
He wasnt meant to accept nor i implied he should have accepted a fake confession but he needed to speak with her for her to stop feelings trash and putting her always looking down at herself not only cheering up her when it's something regarded to Sasuke or she's sad because of him or team 7.
 
Sorry never see him elevating her above his friends, i must been reading the wrong manga.
"Considering the lengths to maker her happy at the expense of his health and his own happiness"
He put his own health and happiness at risk to protect his friends, Naruto is capable of doing anything for his friends, Sakura is not special.
Naruto put his own health at risk to save Gaara, his other friends nearly died on part 1 for him.
 
No it's not clear, it's just stated he loves her and deal with it.
He distanced from her and his "romantic" approachs are always done in comedic moments.
 
Yes she is, because he didnt put effort in that relationship, he doenst moved it forward, he never did anything for her on a romantic level.
He never treated her like his love interest she will either jump on his arms on an open ending.
He doesnt need to do anything really because other people had done that for him, Sai confessed for him, Yamato challenged Sakura earlier, the random lover ninja said that Sasuke wasnt a good guy an etc...

It held major significance, the only time that the promise held any less significance is after Jiraiya's death, when Naruto was able to understand Sasuke, and as a result wanted to save him because of his new found understanding. The promise still holds a large portion of significance to Naruto, but it isn't the only reason that he wants to save Sasuke. 

 

It isn't necessary for Naruto to directly step in and tell her to stop looking down at herself, he shows that through his actions. For instance, when he got on Sasuke after Sasuke was a prick to both her and Kakashi. I think you're not acknowledging that she is as strong as she is now because of Naruto (as well as Tsunade).

 

You must be, because not many things hurt worse than having a broken heart and having to live with one, which Naruto was willing to accept so that Sakura could be happy. He didn't hunt Sasuke down for Ino or any of those fangirls, he did it for Sakura and Sakura alone. 

 

Yeah, it is clear. And as I said, he distances his self from her, outside of his asking her out on dates, because he wants her to choose him, not go out with him because of what he has done for her. He wants her to choose him and acknowledge him because she loves him, and he her, not because the schoolgirl crush hasn't worked out. Once again, Naruto has done nothing wrong in pursuit of Sakura.

 

He didn't put effort into it, but he puts his ass on the line for her to be happy, even if it means he is miserable. He has treated her like a love interest, he just puts her wants first. Should he be like Hinata and ignore how she feels, only thinking of himself? No. Naruto has never thought of Sakura as a prize, and because of that simple fact, any attempt to say otherwise is irrelevant.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 05:49 PM

You don't love Kishi's art for NS?

I like the art. But at least in other NS doujins they're at least canon. 


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 05:50 PM

I may not care about NS as I used to. But honestly, the only time I actually enjoy NS is when it comes from Ladygt.

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 05:52 PM

Why are you becoming more and more like Darkrest? :umm:  Get back to the our side right now  :hm:xyszYuq.png

lol sry


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 05:53 PM

I like the art. But at least in other NS doujins they're at least canon. 

Yeah,at least author of doujinshi doesn't troll the ships.And NS is canon in doujinshis .


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 05:56 PM

Haha, anyone heard of 10-rankai?


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 05:56 PM

Haha, anyone heard of 10-rankai?

What?Dunno that...


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#31112 Liu bie

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:02 PM

You should check out Pooper and Kozakura. Their art is simply breathtaking.

I checked Pooper too  that art is good i think Pooper didn't finished his doujins he must be busy, The one have not checked is Kozakura.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:07 PM

Dαrkrєrsŧ: the fact that Naruto is the hero of the story and risk his life for everyone in Konoha doesn't make Sakura less special

The fact that make her less special is that they dont have a bonding that does not involve Sasuke, every scene where Naruto cheered Sakura up involved Sasuke at some extent, he never acknowledged her, he actually never put an effort to understand her motives.

On the begining of the story he tells to himself she's strong and etc...
Later on the war arc, the first thing he does is to tell her to stand back and make brownies.
 

, because you're losing the emotional background of many scenes that show how special she is to Naruto do you want a example?

the hospital scene in part 1 of the manga where Sakura hugs Sasuke you can see in the face of Naruto the great pain it causes him when he watch that scene, it is obvious that he is deeply in love with her, if she is not special to him and she is only a friend to him that scene makes no sense.

I also can give an example that she's not.
Like when Itachi talked like "Minato had Kushina and his friends to support him" Naruto then thought about everyone equally.
Hence that for mInato Kushina was specially emphasized and it's not.
You bought up the fact that "Sakura hugs Sasuke you can see in the face of Naruto the great pain it causes him when he watch that scene, it is obvious that he is deeply in love with her"
 
However i can counter with the scene when Naruto has his 8 tailed form sealed and his put his hand on his chest and say "Hinata"?
Does it make Hinata special too above his friends?
 
Obviously no.
You can ony bring up this part and the POAL whom lose significance afterwards.

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:14 PM

The fact that make her less special is that they dont have a bonding that does not involve Sasuke, every scene where Naruto cheered Sakura up involved Sasuke at some extent, he never acknowledged her, he actually never put an effort to understand her motives.

I also can give an example that she's not.
Like when Itachi talked like "Minato had Kushina and his friends to support him" Naruto then thought about everyone equally.
Hence that for mInato Kushina was specially emphasized and it's not.
You bought up the fact that "Sakura hugs Sasuke you can see in the face of Naruto the great pain it causes him when he watch that scene, it is obvious that he is deeply in love with her"
 
However i can counter with the scene when Naruto has his 8 tailed form sealed and his put his hand on his chest and say "Hinata"?
Does it make Hinata special too above his friends?
 
Obviously no.
You can ony bring up this part and the POAL whom lose significance afterwards.

Dude, you can't compare those scenes. Do you know why? Because in Hinata's case, it was because it would be his fault if she ended dead. That's a feeling that could be for anyone. And it was for anyone, because he was worried about the villagers too. 

In the Hospital scene, there is nothing like that. That scene shows Sakura worried about Sasuke, crying out loud for him. And that produced pain on Naruto. That has only to do with Naruto's feelings toward Sakura.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:22 PM

I'm going to kill my brother for hogging the computer all night long, yet still being on and refusing to get off...

Anyways, just saw this on Facebook, and want to know if it's from official sources, and if so if the translation is correct.
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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:23 PM

 

I also can give an example that she's not.

Like when Itachi talked like "Minato had Kushina and his friends to support him" Naruto then thought about everyone equally.
Hence that for mInato Kushina was specially emphasized and it's not.

You bought up the fact that "Sakura hugs Sasuke you can see in the face of Naruto the great pain it causes him when he watch that scene, it is obvious that he is deeply in love with her"

 

 

Dαrkrєrsŧ the context is quite significant, in that scene they are talking about a generic way and involves "He had all his friends" so it makes sense for Naruto to think about all his friends and people close to him, that does not mean that Kushina is more important than Minato or equal, his thinking is generic.

The context of the other scene is very different, Naruto's eyes say it  all, is rather difficult for him witness that scene, her friend hugging her other friend and feel very sad that for that, why? he is in love with her, is SO simple, shows directly that she is not only a friend and feel something for her.

 

... is just my opinion


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:24 PM

I'm going to kill my brother for hogging the computer all night long, yet still being on and refusing to get off...

Anyways, just saw this on Facebook, and want to know if it's from official sources, and if so if the translation is correct.
I have to upload it as an attachment because my idiot brother thinks being a gamer means he can force everyone to let him use the computer 95% of the time. IMG_71011056428411.jpeg

Um...I don't know. Dammit, she's right. I should study Japanese more...

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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:25 PM

 

... is just my opinion

it's the truth  :hm:


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:26 PM

On the begining of the story he tells to himself she's strong and etc...
Later on the war arc, the first thing he does is to tell her to stand back and make brownies.

I'm gonna assume this is a badly written joke.

 

I also can give an example that she's not.
Like when Itachi talked like "Minato had Kushina and his friends to support him" Naruto then thought about everyone equally.
Hence that for mInato Kushina was specially emphasized and it's not.

This is because Kushina is Minato's wife, of course Kushina would get a special mention!

Sakura ,right now, is just one of Naruto's friends. Why do you expect Sakura to be treated on the level of that of a girlfriend/ wife when she isn't that?

 

Itachi told Naruto that Minato could not have become a Hokage if not for Kushina. The thing that matters is what followed this- Naruto was dying along with his dreams. Who was the one who saved him and promised that she would not allow him to die when his dream was so close to being realised? Who is the one person that has thought about and supported Naruto's dream of becoming Hokage ever since the Chuunin exams? Don't underestimate Sakura's role in making Naruto's dream a reality.


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Posted 03 September 2014 - 06:39 PM

Dαrkrєrsŧ the context is quite significant, in that scene they are talking about a generic way and involves "He had all his friends" so it makes sense for Naruto to think about all his friends and people close to him, that does not mean that Kushina is more important than Minato or equal, his thinking is generic.

Just to express the context of the scene shows clearly that despite he said "all his friends"
Kushina had a special focus that's why he said "Kushina and all his friends"
Sakura doesnt have her own special place when Naruto thinks about his supporters.
 

The context of the other scene is very different, Naruto's eyes say it  all, is rather difficult for him witness that scene, her friend hugging her other friend and feel very sad that for that, why? he is in love with her, is SO simple, shows directly that she is not only a friend and feel something for her.
 
... is just my opinion

For me they're the same from a certain point of view, Naruto has feelings for Sakura, i'm not denying this, i'm saying is that he doesnt treat her as special, those type of things is normal just like his scene about Hinata and his other friends, he does care about them particularly from different viewpoints, Sakura is his love interest, Neji destiny, Lee hard work and etc..
But Sakura was never show as someome special, his bond with her is not stronger than his other friends.

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