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Posted 07 January 2010 - 10:44 PM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Jan 7 2010, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As far as i know Ino is a secondary female character...like Temari...and some others...Hinata really falls below that into i guess third place...
I mean i don't like to bash her...but she isn't gonna get much panel time in the future.

Unless Kishi does a filler arc on her and her team. That might be the best way he would please the NH fans out there...even if there won't be much NH to go around.


Actually Pierrot the guy in charge of the anime is demanding to Kishi that he focus more on Hinata or more precise more N/H like she was the heroine because the people wants N/H but Kishi has ignored his demands looks like he's done with the so called N/H fillers which they don't count.
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Posted 07 January 2010 - 10:56 PM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Jan 7 2010, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't really agree that fanboys are more likely to hate on a lead girl if they are a more strong-willed type. Look at Rukia from bleach who has tons of fanboys. I'd say Sakura is actually one of the few tsundere lead females who is so viciously attacked. I'll never understand how Rukia can beat on Ichigo any time she wishes but Sakura punches Naruto for being a perv and everyone has an issue with 'Sakura the bully'.



um rukia doesnt beat ichigo all the time, she does it to gain his cofidents back, like their reunion, rukia could see he wasent him self so she kicked him and forced him to fight an hollow, she has meaning in her beatings, like sakura who punchs naruto when hes a pervert, and its also hard for rukia to experese her feelings well, since after the kaien incedent and isolation from everyone before ichigo came into her life.

sorry im a fan of rukia, and just wanted to say she does beat ichigo for an reason most of the time

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 12:18 AM

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um rukia doesnt beat ichigo all the time, she does it to gain his cofidents back, like their reunion, rukia could see he wasent him self so she kicked him and forced him to fight an hollow, she has meaning in her beatings, like sakura who punchs naruto when hes a pervert, and its also hard for rukia to experese her feelings well, since after the kaien incedent and isolation from everyone before ichigo came into her life.

sorry im a fan of rukia, and just wanted to say she does beat ichigo for an reason most of the time

I was using an example, not trying to claim Rukia is a bully towards Ichigo. The point being that both Rukia and Sakura can show strong emotions through painful reprimands...and yet I don't see anyone complaining about Rukia doing it and tons of people angry that Sakura does.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 12:25 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Jan 7 2010, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't really agree that fanboys are more likely to hate on a lead girl if they are a more strong-willed type. Look at Rukia from bleach who has tons of fanboys. I'd say Sakura is actually one of the few tsundere lead females who is so viciously attacked. I'll never understand how Rukia can beat on Ichigo any time she wishes but Sakura punches Naruto for being a perv and everyone has an issue with 'Sakura the bully'.


Kubo though, plays Rukia as subserviant to her adoptive brother, and he's made her the traditional "damsel in distress" in at least a couple of arcs. He's given her enough beta type characteristics that she's not going to get the attacks a more straightforward gamma type like Sakura, Kaoru, Buffy Summers, Rogue, etc... get.
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 12:47 AM

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Kubo though, plays Rukia as subserviant to her adoptive brother, and he's made her the traditional "damsel in distress" in at least a couple of arcs. He's given her enough beta type characteristics that she's not going to get the attacks a more straightforward gamma type like Sakura, Kaoru, Buffy Summers, Rogue, etc... get.

That is no different than Sakura being respectful to those of higher positions. She doesn't punch those she isn't comfortable around, which is the case for Rukia as well. Also, Sakura has been damsel in distress quite a few times in part I. So no, it's not that different. Rukia is more likable because she didn't start off as an immature girl with a crush who was intentionally cruel to the other boy. That is what caused a lot of people to dislike Sakura and never give her a chance. Sakura is still making mistakes, but at least she has matured quite a bit since then.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 01:27 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Jan 7 2010, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That is no different than Sakura being respectful to those of higher positions.


Actually it is different- Rukia acted toward her adopted brother like Hinata acted toward her father. It was shown, even in part 1 that Sakura had an inner rebellious side, and sometimes even expressed it even in part 1- she and Naruto both yelling in chorus at Kakashi for being late.
Rukia crushed on someone she shouldn't have too, and her crush did have some major negative consquences.

And sorry, nope Sakura wasn't anymore cruel to Naruto than Naruto was an complete obnxious ass to Sakura. (and at times even to Sasuke, as someone else pointed out a while back Naruto instigated things with some obnxious behavior. Sakura is a person who was bullied and made fun of when someone did something to others especially, Sakura got mad- she knew all to well what it was like to be bullied and and made fun of. Note her disgust at Kakashi in chapter 5 when she realizes he's acting a bully toward Naruto. She would have seen Naruto's harassing Sasuke as a kind of bullying too, especially when Sasuke wouldn't make a response back.
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 01:27 AM

QUOTE (Strangelove @ Jan 7 2010, 05:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
As far as i know Ino is a secondary female character...like Temari...and some others...Hinata really falls below that into i guess third place...
I mean i don't like to bash her...but she isn't gonna get much panel time in the future.

Unless Kishi does a filler arc on her and her team. That might be the best way he would please the NH fans out there...even if there won't be much NH to go around.


Hate to break it to you but Ino isn't the secondary female character, nor is Temari. That role is actually Tsunade's. Ino and Temari are in that specific place where Hinata in terms of tiers and they hardly appear unless they are needed for the story.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 02:00 AM

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This is directed at ciardha, so anybody who doesn't want to hear any more of this "debate," don't bother with it.


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Err you're the one that is keeping it going Froot. Even though you were proven wrong by the manga Hate to break it to you, but even by your own definition of what constitutes the face, at least half of her hand- her whole palm is cupping his face.

Nah, I said cupping Naruto's face with one hand while resting her head on his shoulder. I just think Froot likes to keep up debates even after she loses I grew up seeing my dad and his mom debate like that, so after being annoyed at first, then I got amused that it was that kind of debate and played along. Heh, I'm surprised Froot's not debating about Sakura resting her head on Naruto's shoukler, too... But I think the silliness has gone on enough, so let another topic related to narusaku take the floor.


Really, ciardha? I've been proven wrong so you go and mock me? Problem is, I'm not wrong. rolleyes.gif

I don't know what your definition of "cupping" is, but cupping, regarding the hands, means to put your hands into the shape of a cup. If you were to cup a flat or slightly concaved surface, such as a face, you could not fit all of the skin into your hands, therefore you are not truly cupping it, so the only cupping you can do is pressing your finger tips and palm against the skin, which is what Sakura did. The only part of her hand that is touching Naruto's face is the fatty part of the hand where the thumb joins the rest of the hand, and even that's not really touching his face, but the junction of his jawbone and ear, on his neck. Not his face.

She had her fingers on his neck, and to cup someone's face, don't you think the fingers should be on the actual face?

I really can't believe I have to tell you this, because not only should it be obvious that she ISN'T cupping his face, but also because with my first post, I was simply offering an opinion that you were exaggerating, and god forbid ciardha is wrong. It wasn't intended to offend you, but you chose to take offense, so that's your problem.Don't accuse me of "keeping it going" when you're the one who went as far to provide links and all that. And even if that's not enough to satisfy you, then see your previous posts, where you regard me using a condescending tone like I'm a foolish child and using the rolleyes.gif emoticon more than once, like I am SO negligible that you can brush me off with that emoticon and an insulting post assuming that you know me at all. I am offended by this:

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I just think Froot likes to keep up debates even after she loses laugh.gif


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I got amused that it was that kind of debate and played along. Heh, I'm surprised Froot's not debating about Sakura resting her head on Naruto's shoukler, too... But I think the silliness has gone on enough...


Was this really necessary? You've lowered yourself to personal attacks, and I think it's because you are so offended that I have proved you wrong and you are so stubborn that you refuse to accept it and resort to insulting me personally. For your information, no, I won't argue about Sakura resting her head on Naruto's shoulder. This is obvious, like the fact that she is not cupping his face. Did you really need to say that? Does that defend your point at all?

Feel free to continue with this if it would make you happy. But I'm going to digress from it, and, hopefully, end this joke of a debate. Waste your time and reply if you want.

That said, I'd like to hear everyone's opinions on this:

When Shikamaru was in the tent with Sakura, Sai, and Shizune telling Sakura about how Sasuke had to be taken care of, she asked him "Please... Don't say any more."

What do you think she meant by that? I also noticed that right after, she tightened her fist, which Naruto did, too, about 1 page later. I've been thinking of this, but haven't been able to come up with a conclusion. What is your take on this?

Edited by Froot, 08 January 2010 - 02:13 AM.


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Posted 08 January 2010 - 02:04 AM

QUOTE (Derock @ Jan 7 2010, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hate to break it to you but Ino isn't the secondary female character, nor is Temari. That role is actually Tsunade's. Ino and Temari are in that specific place where Hinata in terms of tiers and they hardly appear unless they are needed for the story.

A secondary character is someone who pops in front time to time or remains obscured in the background. That practically sums up Ino and Temari. Tsunade falls more into the place of a primary character.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 02:09 AM

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This is directed at ciardha, so anybody who doesn't want to hear any more of this "debate," don't bother with it.




Really, ciardha? I've been proven wrong so you go and mock me? Problem is, I'm not wrong. rolleyes.gif

I don't know what your definition of "cupping" is, but cupping, regarding the hands, means to put your hands into the shape of a cup. If you were to cup a flat or slightly concaved surface, such as a face, you could not fit all of the skin into your hands, therefore you are not truly cupping it, so the only cupping you can do is pressing your finger tips and palm against the skin, which is what Sakura did. The only part of her hand that is touching Naruto's face is the fatty part of the hand where the thumb joins the rest of the hand, and even that's not really touching his face, but the junction of his jawbone and ear, on his neck. Not his face.

She had her fingers on his neck, and to cup someone's face, don't you think the fingers should be on the actual face?

I really can't believe I have to tell you this, because not only should it be obvious that she ISN'T cupping his face, but also because with my first post, I was simply offering an opinion that you were exaggerating, and god forbid ciardha is wrong. It wasn't intended to offend you, but you chose to take offense, so that's your problem.Don't accuse me of "keeping it going" when you're the one who went as far to provide links and all that. And even if that's not enough to satisfy you, then see your previous posts, where you regard me using a condescending tone like I'm a foolish child and using the rolleyes.gif emoticon more than once, like I am SO negligible that you can brush me off with that emoticon and an insulting post assuming that you know me at all. I am offended by this:





Was this really necessary? You've lowered yourself to personal attacks, and I think it's because you are so offended that I have proved you wrong and you are so stubborn that you refuse to accept it and resort to insulting me personally. For your information, no, I won't argue about Sakura resting her head on Naruto's shoulder. This is obvious, like the fact that she is not cupping his face. Did you really need to say that? Does that defend your point at all?

Feel free to continue this debate if you want. But I'm going to digress from this, and, hopefully, end this little argument. Take offense if you want.

That said, I'd like to hear everyone's opinions on this:

When Shikamaru was in the tent with Sakura, Sai, and Shizune telling Sakura about how Sasuke had to be taken care of, she asked him "Please... Don't say any more."

What do you think she meant by that? I also noticed that right after, she tightened her fist, which Naruto did, too, about 1 page later. I've been thinking of this, but haven't been able to come up with a conclusion. What is your take on this?


I think the part of Sakura tightening her fist is that she has come to admit that Sasuke is a criminal and its too late to save him. Tightening her fist is that its hard for her to deal with it because like Naruto she cares for Sasuke too. However she was crying because she found out of all the pain Naruto's been through for her for the sake of fulfilling the promise of the life time she wasn't crying about Sasuke. She quickly made the decision for Naruto's protection and with the hopes of stopping him from chasing Sasuke even if she knows it will be impossible to achieve. Sakura knows Naruto too well and she knows that he will never give up or go back on his word I'm still asking why did she confessed to him even if she knew it will be hopeless to convince him to stop chasing Sasuke? this leaves me to believe that she was telling the truth in her confession. Whatever the reason might be Sakura has made a decision and to protect Naruto she's willing to kill Sasuke even if she doesn't care that Naruto will hate her for taking the decision to kill Sasuke. She's expecting to be hated by Naruto and it will be her punishment for causing him so much pain because of the promise. happy.gif
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 02:10 AM

I think Derock meant that Tsunade's the second most important female. Is that what you meant?

I wonder, then, who is the 3rd most important female? I'd say Mizukage or Temari, but I don't know...

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I think the part of Sakura tightening her fist is that she has come to admit that Sasuke is a criminal and its too late to save him.


Hm, that could be true, because when Naruto tightened his fist, he said to himself "I'm starting to not understand you, Sasuke." Which might be an indirect way of saying that he knows their bond is breaking. Good theory.

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Tightening her fist is that its hard for her to deal with it because like Naruto she cares for Sasuke too. However she was crying because she found out of all the pain Naruto's been through for her for the sake of fulfilling the promise of the life time she wasn't crying about Sasuke.


Naturally, people misinterpret this. After all, the biggest panels in the chapter went to Sai's confession and Sakura's realization, not them telling Sasuke needs to be "taken care of."

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She quickly made the decision for Naruto's protection and with the hopes of stopping him from chasing Sasuke even if she knows it will be impossible to achieve. Sakura knows Naruto too well and she knows that he will never give up or go back on his word I'm still asking why did she confessed to him even if she knew it will be hopeless to convince him to stop chasing Sasuke?


His love for her was still fresh on her mind. She didn't get much time to think about its extent our boundaries; It's new to her. So, maybe she thought with this new "advantage" (for lack of better word. I know advantage sounds really manipulative sweat.gif) would be more effective and less painful to get Naruto to come back. She didn't consider it might not work, because it was still so new. Think about it; If Naruto had gone along with it, where would it have gone? She'd just told Naruto that she loved him and they were planning to go home together. It's confusing and a real cheap way to end the story... I suppose that's why Kishi didn't choose that path laugh.gif

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this leaves me to believe that she was telling the truth in her confession. Whatever the reason might be Sakura has made a decision and to protect Naruto she's willing to kill Sasuke even if she doesn't care that Naruto will hate her for taking the decision to kill Sasuke. She's expecting to be hated by Naruto and it will be her punishment for causing him so much pain because of the promise.


Somebody claimed that Sakura was being "selfish;" but in what way is that selfish? To whom is the selfishness affecting? Selfish to Naruto? It's quite the opposite. This very well may be the most unselfish thing Sakura's ever done. She's willing to risk her life, the boy she "loves," and her friendship with her best friend... hm.png I'm afraid I don't quite see it.

Edited by Froot, 08 January 2010 - 02:24 AM.


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Posted 08 January 2010 - 02:12 AM

QUOTE (Froot @ Jan 7 2010, 09:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
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This is directed at ciardha, so anybody who doesn't want to hear any more of this "debate," don't bother with it.




Really, ciardha? I've been proven wrong so you go and mock me? Problem is, I'm not wrong. rolleyes.gif

I don't know what your definition of "cupping" is, but cupping, regarding the hands, means to put your hands into the shape of a cup. If you were to cup a flat or slightly concaved surface, such as a face, you could not fit all of the skin into your hands, therefore you are not truly cupping it, so the only cupping you can do is pressing your finger tips and palm against the skin, which is what Sakura did. The only part of her hand that is touching Naruto's face is the fatty part of the hand where the thumb joins the rest of the hand, and even that's not really touching his face, but the junction of his jawbone and ear, on his neck. Not his face.

She had her fingers on his neck, and to cup someone's face, don't you think the fingers should be on the actual face?

I really can't believe I have to tell you this, because not only should it be obvious that she ISN'T cupping his face, but also because with my first post, I was simply offering an opinion that you were exaggerating, and god forbid ciardha is wrong. It wasn't intended to offend you, but you chose to take offense, so that's your problem.Don't accuse me of "keeping it going" when you're the one who went as far to provide links and all that. And even if that's not enough to satisfy you, then see your previous posts, where you regard me using a condescending tone like I'm a foolish child and using the rolleyes.gif emoticon more than once, like I am SO negligible that you can brush me off with that emoticon and an insulting post assuming that you know me at all. I am offended by this:





Was this really necessary? You've lowered yourself to personal attacks, and I think it's because you are so offended that I have proved you wrong and you are so stubborn that you refuse to accept it and resort to insulting me personally. For your information, no, I won't argue about Sakura resting her head on Naruto's shoulder. This is obvious, like the fact that she is not cupping his face. Did you really need to say that? Does that defend your point at all?

Feel free to continue this debate if you want. But I'm going to digress from this, and, hopefully, end this little argument. Take offense if you want.

That said, I'd like to hear everyone's opinions on this:

When Shikamaru was in the tent with Sakura, Sai, and Shizune telling Sakura about how Sasuke had to be taken care of, she asked him "Please... Don't say any more."

What do you think she meant by that? I also noticed that right after, she tightened her fist, which Naruto did, too, about 1 page later. I've been thinking of this, but haven't been able to come up with a conclusion. What is your take on this?



ok froot to me she seemed to had enough of the whole ordeal i think she understands all that sasuke and (herself) has done to naruto and what sasuke is about to do with the villege and whole shinobi world, she might be holding anger towards sasuke and herslef, since then she swore to never hurt naruto again. and she seems to want to end his suffering once and for all. she seemed to just really have enogh with the whole drama

understand what i mean, people really usely understand what i write sometiems sweat.gif

my question to u is what do think sakura meant by "the baka is in love with me so ill do it"

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 02:16 AM

I figured that, sorry if I seemed like I calling was calling you out Derock, just felt like correcting you.
And personally I'd say the 3rd most important female would be Ino for being the main female character's best friend, seeing as she can also influence many things.

Edited by Shirosaki, 08 January 2010 - 02:18 AM.


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Posted 08 January 2010 - 02:33 AM

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ok froot to me she seemed to had enough of the whole ordeal i think she understands all that sasuke and (herself) has done to naruto and what sasuke is about to do with the villege and whole shinobi world, she might be holding anger towards sasuke and herslef, since then she swore to never hurt naruto again. and she seems to want to end his suffering once and for all. she seemed to just really have enogh with the whole drama


I see this as very possible, too. She must feel quite guilty... No, she does feel guilty, if the lastest chapters are any indication. And people argue that she only did it out of guilt - Yes, guilt born of hurting somebody she loved for so long and not even knowing it. What's wrong with guilt anyways? Guilt indicates that you feel regret for your wrongs. Doesn't seem so terrible to me. Better than feeling no guilt at all. In fact, I'm glad she feels guilty. If she didn't, only THEN would I question her love for Naruto.

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understand what i mean, people really usely understand what i write sometiems


I think I got the gist of it wink.gif

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my question to u is what do think sakura meant by "the baka is in love with me so ill do it"


I'm sorry, I explained this in my other post, the one I was writing while you posted this, so I'll C&P it.

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So, maybe she thought with this new "advantage" (for lack of better word. I know advantage sounds really manipulative ) would be more effective and less painful to get Naruto to come back. She didn't consider it might not work, because it was still so new. Think about it; If Naruto had gone along with it, where would it have gone? She'd just told Naruto that she loved him and they were planning to go home together. It's confusing and a real cheap way to end the story... I suppose that's why Kishi didn't choose that path


Basically, she knows now that Naruto loves her and figured use his love (again, that sounds a little more accusing than intended) to lessen the pain and make him happy. I also don't see what's wrong with her using his love to TRY AND MAKE HIM HAPPY. I've said it before and I'll say it again; It's like you saved someone using CPR, but all that matters is that you broke their ribs. They only think of her actions but don't bother to think of what she wants those actions to cause.

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I figured that, sorry if I seemed like I calling was calling you out Derock, just felt like correcting you.
And personally I'd say the 3rd most important female would be Ino for being the main female character's best friend, seeing as she can also influence many things.


I used to think so too, but I was kind of disappointed by her bawling over Sasuke recently... Sakura wasn't even crying over it, and I thought Ino was developing quite nicely, up until that point.

But I guess she's still important. As important as the Mizukage, though? I still don't know...

Edited by Froot, 08 January 2010 - 02:36 AM.


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Posted 08 January 2010 - 02:44 AM

QUOTE (ciardha @ Jan 7 2010, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Actually it is different- Rukia acted toward her adopted brother like Hinata acted toward her father. It was shown, even in part 1 that Sakura had an inner rebellious side, and sometimes even expressed it even in part 1- she and Naruto both yelling in chorus at Kakashi for being late.
Rukia crushed on someone she shouldn't have too, and her crush did have some major negative consquences.

Yeah, Sakura acted like that towards Kakashi after she was comfortable around him.

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And sorry, nope Sakura wasn't anymore cruel to Naruto than Naruto was an complete obnxious ass to Sakura. (and at times even to Sasuke, as someone else pointed out a while back Naruto instigated things with some obnxious behavior. Sakura is a person who was bullied and made fun of when someone did something to others especially, Sakura got mad- she knew all to well what it was like to be bullied and and made fun of. Note her disgust at Kakashi in chapter 5 when she realizes he's acting a bully toward Naruto. She would have seen Naruto's harassing Sasuke as a kind of bullying too, especially when Sasuke wouldn't make a response back.

Not talking about Naruto here. Talking about SAKURA. No need to bring in and bash another character.

Sakura has faults which made her a bit harder to like in the beginning, just have to accept it. She has changed, so no need to get so defensive about it.

As far as the bullying, since she was so hurt by it, she should have known better than to act like that in return (towards Naruto).

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 03:26 AM

Actually, I think the fact that Sakura started crying after Karui yelled at her "What does he (Sasuke) mean to you, anyway?!" wasn't necessarily reflective of a romantic love for Sasuke.

Sasuke was her ex-teammate, someone who used to be a friend, and now she only finds out he joined the Akatsuki- a criminal organization after Naruto. I think the reason she broke down was also cumulative, the village had just gotten destroyed, she had to heal Hinata to prevent her from dying, then her master goes into a coma, then she finds out Tsunade's been dismissed, and then that Danzo has ordered for Sasuke to be hunted down as a missing-nin. Her mental state was fragile already.

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In general though, the thing about Sakura's character is that Kishimoto has shown her development. She starts off as a rather superficial girl, writing Naruto off as an annoying boy who gets between her and Sasuke, and being more caring of her appearance then abilities. She changes throughout the series, not just in her abilities but her attitude towards her teammates- especially Naruto. She's clearly developed and matured, and the fact that she was willing to accept that she couldn't continue believing Sasuke would come back (especially at Naruto's expense) and to shoulder the burden of killing him is evidence of this change.

I think the scene where she ran towards 4-tailed Kyuubi Naruto saying "Stop this, you don't have to do this, I'll save Sasuke for you!" was indicative of her growing feelings towards Naruto as well, and that she believed that she too should shoulder the burden of bringing Sasuke back (and in fact foreshadowing and linking to the recent chapters).

I think she probably blames herself for her hurting Naruto, which is why she's a bit emotional and not thinking very clearly with regards to killing Sasuke herself though.

Oh and P.S Anyone saw the omake in the latest Naruto Shippuuden ending? biggrin.gif It kind of smacked of NaruSaku. Even more hilariously, it directly ribs at the double standards in the way some fans view Hinata and Sakura tongue.gif

Edited by fireandice, 08 January 2010 - 03:56 AM.


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Posted 08 January 2010 - 03:40 AM

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ok froot to me she seemed to had enough of the whole ordeal i think she understands all that sasuke and (herself) has done to naruto and what sasuke is about to do with the villege and whole shinobi world, she might be holding anger towards sasuke and herslef, since then she swore to never hurt naruto again. and she seems to want to end his suffering once and for all. she seemed to just really have enogh with the whole drama

understand what i mean, people really usely understand what i write sometiems sweat.gif

my question to u is what do think sakura meant by "the baka is in love with me so ill do it"


I believe Sakura didn't meant to call Naruto a baka (which means idiot in english) in a way to insult him or disrespect him. Knowing Sakura she meant to say it as in "how the hell can he still love me after everything I have done to him and all the pain I gave him way?" this leads me to believe that Sakura has finally see the light that Naruto truly loves her and the lengths he's willing to go for her. I think she didn't knew how much Naruto loves her she knew he like her from back at the academy but she eventually thought that he had a crush on her nothing serious that he will like her in a romantic way. Now she's feeling pain and guilt for everything she did to him in the past namely the pain she gave him because of the promise of the life time. smile.gif

In addition I agree with Froot the confession was the most unselfish thing Sakura has done. Choosing Naruto over Sasuke proves how much she has mature and grown up from the Sasuke fan girl from part 1. Sadly there are a lot of people who doesn't see it like that and they still see her as the selfish annoying fan girl which they hate her a lot oh well it's not like Kishi cares if they hate his heroine what matters to him is that the Japanese like her as well as himself. So in truth he could care less what the rest of the world outside of Japan thinks of Sakura. sleep.gif happy.gif
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Posted 08 January 2010 - 03:53 AM

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@Froot

Actually, I think the fact that Sakura started crying after Karui yelled at her "What does he (Sasuke) mean to you, anyway?!" wasn't necessarily reflective of a romantic love for Sasuke.

Sasuke was her ex-teammate, someone who used to be a friend, and now she only finds out he joined the Akatsuki- a criminal organization after Naruto. I think the reason she broke down was also cumulative, the village had just gotten destroyed, she had to heal Hinata to prevent her from dying, then her master goes into a coma, then she finds out Tsunade's been dismissed, and then that Danzo has ordered for Sasuke to be hunted down as a missing-nin. Her mental state was fragile already.


THIS. This assessment is beyond correct. For once, being skeptical of the scanlators paid off, officially, Sakura says "It can't be...". In other words, Sakura is in denial about Sasuke being in Akatsuki, so it does not imply any form of romantic love whatsoever.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 03:59 AM

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THIS. This assessment is beyond correct. For once, being skeptical of the scanlators paid off, officially, Sakura says "It can't be...". In other words, Sakura is in denial about Sasuke being in Akatsuki, so it does not imply any form of romantic love whatsoever.


Exactly Twilight they altered the translations from 453 Sakura didn't said" I...I...I" she really said" it can't be..." its true she was in denial that Sasuke has joined Akatsuki that's why she cry. Not to mention the fact that Akatsuki is the same organization after Naruto and she knows he will die if the Kyuubi gets extracted from him. It must have really hurt her a lot to find out that her former teammate and friend joins the evil organization who wants Naruto the person most precious to her. happy.gif

Which reminds me how many S/S fans were saying that it was a S/S moment that she still loves Sasuke yet it became like that because they messed with the translations as usual all to support the dying one sided pairing. Another desperate attempts if I may add. sleep.gif

Edited by Gravenimage, 08 January 2010 - 04:06 AM.

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Posted 08 January 2010 - 04:01 AM

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I believe Sakura didn't meant to call Naruto a baka (which means idiot in english) in a way to insult him or disrespect him.


I like to think she uses "baka" as an endearing term laugh.gif

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THIS. This assessment is beyond correct. For once, being skeptical of the scanlators paid off, officially, Sakura says "It can't be...". In other words, Sakura is in denial about Sasuke being in Akatsuki, so it does not imply any form of romantic love whatsoever.


Though I could tell without a proper translation that it wasn't romantic. Given the evidence. By which I mean the manga. I've been suspicious of the scanlators ever since I began reading the manga when their so-called "translations" contradicted the manga.

That's why I think Innera should become a scanlator! wow.png

Edited by Froot, 08 January 2010 - 04:02 AM.





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