Sorry for my late reply. I'm not going to make you into Hinata
It's because their types of relationship were different. I'm sure you could do things for a certain couple of persons, not everyone but more than one. Mizuki/Kabuto played "the good guy" with him and then showed their true intentions, that's why is different, There is not a real bond. Even with Kabuto, Naruto couldn't believe it at first. (lmao, okay staph)
I agree with you here.
Nagato, Obito and Zabuza were "bad" first, when he met them. Sasuke was "good" first, when he met him. Naruto saw Sasuke falling into darkness. How would you feel if something bad happens to someone important to you? and what if you were there? wouldn't you think at least one time that you could do something? Now, when we think about the other three... They were forgiven for him after hearing their stories and watching them trying to do one last good thing. If Naruto would have know them before falling into darkness, things could be different.
Actually, now that you bring it up, I do have an experience of someone important to me turn bad. (It involves my father and mother but I shouldn't go into details) As I said to Naruko, my intense hatred for Naruto's redemption philosophy and the bromance comes from my own experience.
If someone important to me suffered I would help. But there's a limit. If that person hurts your other important person because he/she is suffering, I won't forgive that person. That's usual human behavior. Naruto's is not. It's the fact that I couldn't act like him in his situation that makes me certain that his feelings for Sakura pale largely compared to his feelings for Sasuke. That's what I experienced anyways, and I know real life and manga might be different. But since you asked me if I can relate to that particular point, I'll answer no. I can't and I didn't from my own experience.
Mostly agree, but i still think the promise afect him in some way. "I couldn't keep my promise", "Everytime we have news from Sasuke, i see Sakura-chan sad..."
Yes, he said that. Because at first it was about bringing him back for Sakura and Sasuke himself. He wanted to help him. But now, he understand why he joined Akatsuki and why he's obsessed with revenge. So, it's true, Sakura's promise is on second place, even third. Now is about remembering him their bonds, the importance of friends. It's not that the promise doesn't matter anymore, it's just that he prioritized this reasons.
Actually I think the importance of the promise itself diminished from part one. It's taking a back seat. It's quite clear when he said, "It's not about the promise anymore." Where else does the promise take priority in anything he does.
I really got what you say. Like i said before, i think Kishi should fix this before making NS canon. I will prioritise the persons that i have closer than the ones who are trying to hurt us. But like Naruko said, focusing on Sasuke right now doesn't make his love for Sakura lower.
He has priorities. Picture this: You have 2 friends, one is at your side, the other is walking to a path of thorns. What is more important to focus on? That's the way he see it. (This only explain one aspect)
Maybe that's how he sees it. And to me that equates as "evil wins it all". Imagine this. There are two kids. One is studying hard, working hard to support his retired parents. The other one is using the parent's pension money to lazy around, drink alcohol, and sleep with prostitutes. The parents are going to spend their care for the latter kid because the latter kid has gone "bad" and therefore needs attention. Whereas, the good kid is being ignored because he's "good" and probably won't need attention. This is the "evil wins all" scenario. An unfair amount of attention will be given to the bad side simply because they're doing whatever they want. If Naruto is like the parent I'm saying here, he should stay with Sasuke and Sasuke only. Then, there won't be any victims of the "evil wins all" scenario, and no one-sided partnership(or should I say satellite?) Do you understand what I mean?
Yeah, those things really bother me. But i have to say something... When it comes to every type relationship, first comes one-one and then, the others. Something like this: You and I are friends. We have 3 more friends. We have a different relationship with everyone of them and no one of has something to do with ther other. Yes, there are times when i need to analise a situation as a group. But with the one-one's relationship only concern us. Even if we ask for advices, the actions only concern us. Sakura don't need to be there when it comes to Naruto-Sasuke relationship. She has her own relationship as a friend with Sasuke (individual) and a second one being part of Team 7(colective).
The manga is focused on Naruto-Sasuke relationship. When she decided to have faith in them, it was established 2 things:
1. She's not going to be in the middle of Sasuke and Naruto relationship as one-one bond. Good.
2. She acepted that her voice, just like Kakashi's voice can't reach Sasuke, only Naruto's. And this is only about how Sasuke-Sakura bond is not as stronger SS fans thinks it is. This doesn't affect NS relationship.
Yes, it seems like she's not doing anything. But "doing anything" toward this problem is the best choice. Why? Because that would be humillating her. Sasuke-Sakura relationship, like Kakashi-Sasuke relationship can only solve their problems/ comes to terms after Sasuke-Naruto relationship is solved.
But I think that you missed the main problem I have here. It's the one-sidedness that I find unappealing. And the one-sidedness of Sakura's bond is because there isn't Naruto or Sasuke to return back her bond with the same intensity. It's like Sakura is throwing a hundred balls to Naruto, but he can only throw back one because he has to throw the other 99 balls to Sasuke. That's not mutual partnership between Naruto and Sakura. That's just Sakura being a satellite.
I hope you understand what I mean?
Btw, do you ever plan to make a mbti thread? It would be great if you could counsel the anti-social people with your knowledge :)
@naruko
Don't stress yourself and no need to feel pressured! Any time is okay ;)
Edited by ramenanmitsu, 02 September 2014 - 11:48 AM.
