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[Illnevergiveup3]

 
If you didn't read the others don't steak in one. Read first, dammit. IT'S kittening COMPLEX.
I HATE EVERYONE OF YOU. e̶x̶c̶e̶p̶t̶ ̶N̶a̶r̶u̶k̶o̶
TEST CAN BE WRONG. IT'S ONLY USED FOR REFERENCE WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT A kittening COGNITIVE FUCTION IS.
 
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wtf?

[Naruko]

 

Guys, we've had pages and pages now of Myers Briggs test results and hair color, and that's enough.

 

This is a debate thread.  If you want a Myers Briggs thread to find out what everyone is and what it means, then create one.  If you want to talk about hair color, well, you get the idea.

 

Many of you are way off in the weeds again.

 

 

I always get carried away, I must admit.  

Edited by Naruko, 01 September 2014 - 08:32 PM.

[KnS]

I always get carried away, I must admit.  

 

Nothing wrong with that, just in a more appropriate thread, please.  

[Khaleesi]

I'm not sure how to respond to this. Are you being serious or was this some attempt at a joke?

no, i'm joking, but i think you should read more too xD 

[elmas]

Guys, we've had pages and pages now of Myers Briggs test results and hair color, and that's enough.

 

This is a debate thread.  If you want a Myers Briggs thread to find out what everyone is and what it means, then create one.  If you want to talk about hair color, well, you get the idea.

 

Many of you are way off in the weeds again.

I'm sorry.

[Khaleesi]

wtf...

 

 

I'm not sure how to respond to this. Are you being serious or was this some attempt at a joke?

 

 

Wow that was supper mean  of you  it wasn't necessary you know its just for fun  but fine as you wish , chesus making a big deal out of  stupid thing like this pft . 

 

 

wtf?

like i said, i'm exagerating D:

i should put an emoticon 

[Sedna]

I'm sorry.

That's enough internet today...

[elmas]

That's enough internet today...

Why?

[Crow T Robot]

babe, why she would be referring to Sasuke if the next day she was over him? in that point it depends of interpretation and if two parts are contradicting but one of them has 2 possible interpretations, you choose what it makes more sense. If one of the scenes looks "contradictory" and we have development and a lot of hints that show us the opposite, then why would you still think that it's still something that is meant to be negative if one of the interpretation fits perfectly with the story 

Thank you i feel better now, I just hope Kishi clears it up sometime in the future

[Khaleesi]

Thank you i feel better now, I just hope Kishi clears it up sometime in the future

no problem

[AHK]

"Sasuke was blind, he couldn't see who he was attempting to stab with the chidori".

Because Sasuke didn't acknowledge Sakura's prescience when she showed up at the bridge. Forgive me, I'm gonna be off for about an hour as I try to control my outrageous fits of laughter.

[Naruko]

"Sasuke was blind, he couldn't see who he was attempting to stab with the chidori".

Because Sasuke didn't acknowledge Sakura's prescience when she showed up at the bridge. Forgive me, I'm gonna be off for about an hour as I try to control my outrageous fits of laughter.

 

Did someone actually say that?  

[Nostradamus]

"Sasuke was blind, he couldn't see who he was attempting to stab with the chidori".

Because Sasuke didn't acknowledge Sakura's prescience when she showed up at the bridge. Forgive me, I'm gonna be off for about an hour as I try to control my outrageous fits of laughter.

Must be a 7 year old.

[elmas]

"Sasuke was blind, he couldn't see who he was attempting to stab with the chidori".

Because Sasuke didn't acknowledge Sakura's prescience when she showed up at the bridge. Forgive me, I'm gonna be off for about an hour as I try to control my outrageous fits of laughter.

I wonder does that person know Sasuke?

[Naruko]

I wonder does that person know Sasuke?

 

I wonder is that a real person or is it another specie I don't belong to? 

[AHK]

Did someone actually say that?  

  
Yeah lmfao

Must be a 7 year old.

  
Nope, definitely older than that lmao

I wonder does that person know Sasuke?

I wonder if that person read the manga at all lol

[questdrivencollie]

"Sasuke was blind, he couldn't see who he was attempting to stab with the chidori".
Because Sasuke didn't acknowledge Sakura's prescience when she showed up at the bridge. Forgive me, I'm gonna be off for about an hour as I try to control my outrageous fits of laughter.

And it's not like there's only one pink haired person he knows. Nah, he must have thought it was somebody he didn't know, that has to be it.

[Naruko]

And it's not like there's only one pink haired person he knows. Nah, he must have thought it was somebody he didn't know, that has to be it.

 

I'm sure if he knew it was Sakura, he would have hugged her from behind. 

Edited by Naruko, 02 September 2014 - 12:40 AM.

[ramenanmitsu]

Hell no. MinaHina is much worse. Minato was Kakashi's sensei. He's older than him, so the pedophilia would be worse. AND Minato is MARRIED so it would also be adultery. So.... no. 
 
@ramenanmitsu OK, you don't have to agree with me but let me point something here:
 
First of all, we have to understand why is Naruto so worried about Sasuke. Sasuke was his friend and he betrayed the village. Do you agree with me that if Sakura was the one to become bad and do the same as Sasuke, it would be her the one Naruto would chase after?

First of all, thanks for wanting to debate with me. And I really like how calm you are.

That's a good question. I am actually not sure. If she was abducted, I'm sure he will. But if she betrays.....I'm not sure to be honest :/ Naruto had no mercy to people like Mizuki or Kabuto becoming bad. It's hard for me to distinguish a clear line from who he will fight for or against because Sasuke's position is very different from the others.

Naruto just can't stand seeing someone who was his teammate and comrade going to the bad side. He can't even stand those who were already in the bad side. He made Nagato, Obito, Zabuza and a lot of people change their minds. He wants to do the same with Sasuke. It's not that Sasuke is waaaay more important than Sakura, it's just that in Naruto's conception, Sasuke needs his help more at the moment. Also, Naruto thinks that bringing Sasuke back would make Sakura happy too, so he's doing that for her too.

I disagree that changing Sasuke is Naruto's purpose. It's more like forcefully wanting to bring him back because Naruto is Sasuke's brother. "I'll bring you back even if I break your arms and legs". He's never done his TnJ even when he had the chance like the Kage summit. He more or less accepts Sasuke the way he is. And that's what makes Sasuke different from Nagato, Obito, and Zabuza. Towards the three villains he was very angry and probably be furious if they tried to kill Sakura like Sasuke did. But when it comes to Sasuke, he's more accepting even if he nearly killed his own teammate. Therefore, I make my conclusion that Sasuke's importance are way above the others. When it's about Sasuke, it's not about changing him but more like accepting him.

Regarding making Sakura happy: that was part one. Not anymore. She prefers Naruto to stay safe with her than endangering his life to bring back Sasuke. To which Naruto said that bringing back Sasuke has nothing to do with her and their promise. Sakura has long stop being a factor.

He can't confess yet because of their promise, and not because his only focus is Sasuke and he doesn't care much about her. Sakura dying and Sasuke dying would affect Naruto in the same way. The fact he concerns more about Sasuke is due to his current situation. He needs more concern. Who would you be more concerned about? Someone you love who's ok or someone you love who's committing crimes? Just because Naruto shows more concern about Sasuke, it doesn't mean at all he doesn't love Sakura the same way. Assess the situation and you'll understand. 

Actually, I think it should be the other way around. Who should Naruto concern himself more? His friends or the guy trying to hurt his friends? This is not real life, but if I were Naruto I'll prioritize my bond over the friends who care for me rather than someone who is constantly trying to hurt me. Either way, I'm not blaming Naruto for what he's doing. I am just saying that I lose all interest in the NS pairing because well, Sakura is listed among the "others". I just can't bring myself to think that kind of a pairing is attractive where there's no mutual partnership.
 

Now we can talk about how Sakura is not downplayed by NaruSaku. You can see that even all this concern about Sasuke didn't prevent Naruto from being there every time Sakura needed his help. Naruto never disappointed her. She doesn't feel  bad when she is next to him, like she feels when next to Sasuke. Actually, the person whose side Sakura gets happiest by staying by is Naruto. The person who makes her want to become stronger is Naruto (her words: "When I look at him, I realize that I should do my best to become stronger"). Naruto's influence in Sakura's life is only positive. There's no way it would be a bad thing for her. He makes her feel safe, happy and wanting to advance. She feels free to be herself when she's by his side.

 
That's only the positive things you've pointed out. What about the hospital scene where Naruto scolded Sakura "not to get in between their fight" which he didn't say anything to Kakashi? What about Kage summit arc, where Sakura has decided that all she can do is have faith in them and watch them behind the sidelines. What about the rookie meeting where Sakura realized Naruto was hiding something from her. When it comes to Sasuke, Naruto will shut her out and make her believe that there's nothing to do about it even though she's a team seven member as well. Sakura is used as a literary device to emphasize how great Naruto/Sasuke is and their bonds (this is done by showing that she can never fit in, never be as important, and never be as strong as the other two).

It would have been better if she would have just left Naruto and didn't bother with him since he's oh so eager to shut her out. But no, there are endless panels of her showing worry and concern over Naruto while she barely does anything herself. This is why I think NS is dragging down her character.
I hope I explained myself well. Did you understand what I mean?

 

like i said, i'm exagerating D:
i should put an emoticon 

I feel ya. We int's are always misundestood as being angry when we're not.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 01 September 2014 - 11:34 PM.

[Gojira]

I'm not really sure why Naruto favoring Sasuke is a problem for NS when everyone in the entire series favors Sasuke above all else, dude's like kittening Elvis there.

 

Its more of a problem of how Kishi writes Sasuke rather than how he writes NS. He tries so hard for Sasuke to be relevant by having every single character talk about how awesome he is.....someone forgot tpo tell Kishi that in a visual medium its better to show not tell. That's why people love Vegeta, Hiei and Zuko. they proves their worth as anti-heroes and didn't have or need everyone praising them for the most insignificant things.

Edited by Pepsi, 01 September 2014 - 11:34 PM.