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[BlueStarSaber]

Sakura is my favorite female character. i will like her either in a SS relationship, NS relationship or alone.
Most of the current Sakura's fans have to enjoy or at least accept SS...
 
SS didn't ruined my enjoyement with Sakura's character. Simply as that.  She is very good post ending. Even the Haters admits that and have to use the old Kage Summit Arc moments to hates on her.
NaruSaku could be more popular without that bad writing in Kage Summit Arc and the Pierrot's fanatical Hinata fans. But what is done is done. SS Fandom and the current Sakura fans finally showed how Hinata is far away to be considered  popular to Kishimoto and Pierrot.
 
About Boruto you need to change  the Mangaka and the entire plot. 
Just look the pathetic situation of NH and Hinata.

If you are one of those sakura fans thats fine, but just don't exept the rest of us to be like that. We don't like sasusaku and we are not going to praise it, so don't call us delusional inside a NaruSaku bubble just because we think its bad.

Telling us and showing us about how popular ss in, polls, merch or sub sections in her fandom is not going to convince any of us that the ship was in the long run good for her character reputation because it was not.

None of us fined any of her ss moments in gaiden or retsuden to be that good and rather cringe if anything. Nor do we feel she has gotten that good of treatment posting ending.

Even with the kage summit stuff narusaku could has still worked if properly addressed Nd if Kishimoto just ignored hinata's fanatics in Pierrot and stuck to his guns. Also like I keep saying not everyone who voted sakura in the poll was an ss fan, many other including narusaku fans also voted for her hoping to get something like a sakura tsunade story or keep her in the top 3.

Yeah no narusaku fan wants a narusaku son version of boruto or would want Ikemoto to write it. They would rather have someone does like the character and ship do it and be original if they arebgoing to support it.

[TheFirstEvil100]

Posting this while on holiday.

I agree with BlueStar on this many who do like SS are young girls who love the god awful bad boy BS which they think they can change him. I blame Twilight for this.

Look the fact is SS is bad and sends a bad message to little girls remember what Greg said at the end of Kishi sending a bad message to his daughters.

My mum was abused by my ass of a father and according to Kishi she should have stayed with him.

Again the only ones who love SS are girls who are so brainwashed into thinking they can change Sasuke. It the same with Hinata with the males wanting a doll for their fantasies.

[BlueStarSaber]

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If anyone is curious did a stream with chatte a few days ago about the poll results.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

 

 

 

Sakura is my favorite female character. i will like her either in a SS relationship, NS relationship or alone.

Most of the current Sakura's fans have to enjoy or at least accept SS...

 

SS didn't ruined my enjoyement with Sakura's character. Simply as that.  She is very good post ending. Even the Haters admits that and have to use the old Kage Summit Arc moments to hates on her.

 

 

As someone who adores Sakura for the messy character she is, who loved her even when everyone wanted to vilify her for a "false confession." BULLSHIET.

I don't have to like SS, I don't have to accept it. I Reject it. I mock it. Just because you're a fan of Sakura doesn't mean you have to follow a kitten cashgrab after an equally sloppy and disgusting ending. Read. Other. Things. Turn to fanfiction. Don't throw money into a trashcan. 

 

[Kagomaru]

As someone who adores Sakura for the messy character she is, who loved her even when everyone wanted to vilify her for a "false confession." BULLSHIET.

I don't have to like SS, I don't have to accept it. I Reject it. I mock it. Just because you're a fan of Sakura doesn't mean you have to follow a kitten cashgrab after an equally sloppy and disgusting ending. Read. Other. Things. Turn to fanfiction. Don't throw money into a trashcan. 

 

This. Just this.  Why the hell would any fan settle for a characterization of Sakura that ultimately regresses her, demeans her development, and justifies the distorted fan perception that she's received from haters for decades as an obsessive stalker that clings desperately to a man who would literally kill her before he'd ever considered liking her? 

[Phantom_999]

All I'll say on it is that Sakura IS NOT A GOOD CHARACTER WHEN she interacts with Sasuke. She either turns off her her brain and becomes a bimbo like fan girl or she becomes a sobbing mess on how he left. It is not what her character is about and the worst of her always comes out when she interacts with the so called "love of her life". that is why I don't support it, and notice that I'm not even bringing up the times where she was almost killed by him. All of this negativity show a a toxic domestic relationship that I can never get behind and never will.

 

What's that, Sasuke stops another man from getting touchy and molest-y with Sakura and makes/buys a ring for her to show she's married? BIG WHOOP... does buying expensive gifts for your partner after you've physically and emotionally abused them NEGATE THAT ABUSE. I don't think so. It reminds me of one of my old high school sociology text books showing an image that perfectly demonstrates this. A rich looking woman is wearing a beautiful blues dress and and is adorned with a pearl necklace, a diamond ring and a high brand bracelet all of which her husband bought for her but is also covered in bruises and other injuries inflicted by the husband. So I ask, in the same vein, Does Sasuke doing those things in the Sasuke retsuden manga negate the fact that that he verbally abused Sakura in the past and almost killed her twice? Does it negate the fact that they are married but he's never home and Sakura is still a struggling single mother? I once asked my mom that if a husband and wife are married but then the husband leaves and is never home for over a decade and leaves no money at all for the wife to raise their child does that sound like the husband loves the wife, and she said definitely not. What does that say I wonder?

 

This also reminds me of a quote that I consider to be universally true. Sorry means nothing without change

Edited by Phantom_999, 27 April 2023 - 06:17 PM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

This. Just this.  Why the hell would any fan settle for a characterization of Sakura that ultimately regresses her, demeans her development, and justifies the distorted fan perception that she's received from haters for decades as an obsessive stalker that clings desperately to a man who would literally kill her before he'd ever considered liking her? 

At the end of the day, what absolutely ruined Sakura's "Character" wasn't her "false confession." Because IF it'd been taken as Kishimoto meant to write it, it would have been a self sacrificing moment on her part. I'm not sure how people missed that Sakura was willing to be hated by Naruto and every one else, hurt herself in the process all in a vain effort to spare Naruto pain, but whatever. its not even that she hesitates in trying to kill Sasuke after that. 

What absolutely destroys all that development is that AFTER EVERYTHING, all this toxicity, all the pain and lack of care Sasuke has repeatedly shown she just keeps chasing him. IRL, we would all have to agree that there is something DEEPLY wrong with Sakura to do that. 

But, looking at the series as a whole, literally no one behaves like a normal person in regards to Sasuke. There is no reason for ANYONE to like him and chase after him the way they do.  
 

 

 

 

 

 

What's that, Sasuke stops another man from getting touchy and molest-y with Sakura and makes/buys a ring for her to show she's married? BIG WHOOP... does buying expensive gifts for your partner after you've physically and emotionally abused them NEGATE THAT ABUSE. So I ask, in the same vein, Does it negate the fact that they are married but he's never home and Sakura is still a struggling single mother? 
 

This also reminds me of a quote that I consider to be universally true. Sorry means nothing without change

I would agree that Sasuke and Sakura's early "Relationship" is abusive, as in when they were children/teens (if you can even call it a relationship.) but I feel as adults, its more neglectful than anything and also, SAKURA accepts this dynamic. So yea, Sasuke is a kittenbag, but the fact that she allows, and CHASED him to be treated this way just makes her an idiot. (also there is clearly something emotionally/mentally wrong with her. Like her self esteem is somehow that low, that she needs to "Win" by getting the popular guy,) 

And lets just throw out their kittened up marriage and the fact that Sasuke doesn't seem to want to be near her at all--they have a CHILD who like, couldn't recognize their own father--who pulled a weapon on them. Who assumed that their own mother was a liar and like baby snatched them. This is not a happy marriage, its not a happy family.

They don't/didn't even have a family photo together ffs. Sakura is basically a single mom, with Sasuke as a sperm donor.

Why would I want that for a character I like?
Because she's at the hospital being a "Girl-boss" or w/e? Because she's raising her child on her own better than the two parent households? Sorry but I want more for her.   

 

[Phantom_999]

Right. And does Sasuke show any changes to mitigate that neglect? Again. "Sorry means nothing without change." Sure, Sasuke said sorry to Sakura in near the end of Naruto's run but he's still as indifferent to her as ever and his behavior has not changed regarding her from part I. That is what I also have issue with.

Edited by Phantom_999, 19 June 2023 - 06:28 PM.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

He gives her sexy side-eyes after traumatizing her with Genjutsu and letting her fall into lava  good enough!

Oh and a ring in some book most people didn't bother to read, whereafter he hits it and quits it to travel the world. 




 

[Therece]

The fact that toxic and abusive relationships get romanticized at all is extremely cringe and disgusting. I don't really have much respect for people who ship pairings like those. 
 

This is a little too far.
Thats why SS fans never was friendly and despise NS fans like they do with Naruto Fanboys. They hates  be judged as a persons because their preferences over a fictional pairing. They have  Sasuke/Sakura as a favorites characters and consider their moments and the appeal  better than NS.

 

 

 

If you are one of those sakura fans thats fine, but just don't exept the rest of us to be like that. We don't like sasusaku and we are not going to praise it, so don't call us delusional inside a NaruSaku bubble just because we think its bad.
 

I'm only calling delusional people who thinks the franchise went into decline because NaruSaku died or thinks NaruSaku was the peak of sales. The current Naruto fandom and Sakura fandom couldn't care less about NaruSaku... Most of the  Boruto complains are about the kitten story, battles, poor story pacing,alliens and Sasuke/Naruto nerfs.

 

Honestly if you people wanted some type of discussion in this forum it's better to accept contrary opinions. Not Just:

"Sakura was ruinned"
"SasuSaku is abusive and their fans sick people"
"Boruto is bad and Kishimoto is ruinned because Naruto didn't got Sakura at the end"

"Hinata ruined the series"

 

At least  the Hinata popularity ghost proved wrong now.   
 

 

Also like I keep saying not everyone who voted sakura in the poll was an ss fan, many other including narusaku fans also voted for her hoping to get something like a sakura tsunade story or keep her in the top 3.
 

 

 

Some few Sakura Fans from NS side are still alive. But now they are inside SS fandom , multishipping SS and helping SS fans to hate Hinata... if one of these "NS fans" dares to call Sakura a fangirl, stupid for loving Sasuke over Naruto or SasuSaku abusive like in this forum. They are simply expelled/canceled  from the Fandom and more attacked than Hinatards and Naruto Fanboys.
 
SS has thousends of contents, fanarts, SS Artists and pages with 20/40/50/100K of followers etc.
Most the NS artists and content simply stopped after 2014. LadyGT the most famous NS artist simply abandoned Naruto.  I only see ChatteGeorgiana and some few small NaruSaku pages and when they dare to criticize SasuSaku. SS fans come in mass to attack them. SS fandom still has plenty of Hatred against NS fans who call SS abusive.

Most of the "pure blood" NaruSaku fans simply moved on, doesn't care about the series or even hates Sakura. Sakura is ruinned and the series is dead to them. I know that because Sakura received a massive hate back in 2014/2015 in this forum and most of these NS fans abandoned the series and the forum.
 

 

"Just because you're a fan of Sakura doesn't mean you have to follow a kitten cashgrab after an equally sloppy and disgusting ending. Read. Other. Things. Turn to fanfiction. Don't throw money into a trashcan."

 

I think hard to believe the few old NaruSaku fans helped too much in this votation when is very hard to to find them outside here. But SasuSaku fandom have help from Sasuke fans, female fans and some trolls in One Piece Fandom.

 

Edited by Therece, 28 April 2023 - 05:17 AM.

[ThroughWithLove]

 

This is a little too far.
Thats why SS fans never was friendly and despise NS fans like they do with Naruto Fanboys. They hates  be judged as a persons because their preferences over a fictional pairing. They have  Sasuke/Sakura as a favorites characters and consider their moments and the appeal  better than NS.

 

 

 

I'm only calling delusional people who thinks the franchise went into decline because NaruSaku died or thinks NaruSaku was the peak of sales. The current Naruto fandom and Sakura fandom couldn't care less about NaruSaku... Most of the  Boruto complains are about the kitten story, battles, poor story pacing,alliens and Sasuke/Naruto nerfs.

 

Honestly if you people wanted some type of discussion in this forum it's better to accept contrary opinions. Not Just:

"Sakura was ruinned"
"SasuSaku is abusive and their fans sick people"
"Boruto is bad and Kishimoto is ruinned because Naruto didn't got Sakura at the end"

 

At least  the Hinata popularity ghost proved wrong now.   
 

 

 

 

We have some few Sakura Fans from NS side. But now they are inside SS fandom , multishipping SS and helping SS fans to hate Hinata... if one of these "NS fans" dares to call Sakura a fangirl, stupid for loving Sasuke over Naruto or SasuSaku abusive like in this forum. They are simply expelled/canceled  from the Fandom and more attacked than Hinatards and Naruto Fanboys.
 
SS has thousends of contents, fanarts, SS Artists and pages with 20/40/50/100K of followers etc.
Most the NS artists and content simply stopped after 2014. LadyGT the most famous NS artist simply abandoned Naruto.  I only see Chatte and some few small NaruSaku and when they dare to attack SasuSaku. SS fans come in mass to attack them. SS fandom still has plenty of Hatred against NS fans who call SS abusive.

Most of the "pure blood" NaruSaku fans simply moved on, didn't care about the series or even hates Sakura. Sakura is ruinned and the series is dead to them. I know that because Sakura received a massive hate back in 2014/2015 in this forum and most of these NS fans abandoned the series and the forum.

Give this type of comment:

 

"Just because you're a fan of Sakura doesn't mean you have to follow a kitten cashgrab after an equally sloppy and disgusting ending. Read. Other. Things. Turn to fanfiction. Don't throw money into a trashcan."

 

I think hard to believe the few old NaruSaku fans helped too much in this votation when is very hard to to find them outside here.

 

 

 

SS is objectively toxic and abusive. Prove me wrong.

[Therece]

I don't have to like SS

At the end of the day, what absolutely ruined Sakura's "Character" wasn't her "false confession." Because IF it'd been taken as Kishimoto meant to write it, it would have been a self sacrificing moment on her part. I'm not sure how people missed that Sakura was willing to be hated by Naruto and every one else, hurt herself in the process all in a vain effort to spare Naruto pain, but whatever. its not even that she hesitates in trying to kill Sasuke after that. 

What absolutely destroys all that development is that AFTER EVERYTHING, all this toxicity, all the pain and lack of care Sasuke has repeatedly shown she just keeps chasing him. IRL, we would all have to agree that there is something DEEPLY wrong with Sakura to do that.

 

 

 

I agree with BlueStar on this many who do like SS are young girls who love the god awful bad boy BS which they think they can change him. I blame Twilight for this.

Look the fact is SS is bad and sends a bad message to little girls remember what Greg said at the end of Kishi sending a bad message to his daughters.

My mum was abused by my ass of a father and according to Kishi she should have stayed with him.

 

 

I can agree. SS was beyond any repair if Sasuke tried to harm Sakura in Part 1, during the War and as Adults.

They weren't in a relationship during Kage Summit.
Sasuke wasn't mentally sane in the arc. Sakura was the one who hunted Sasuke to "free Naruto from the promisse".
If Sakura stayed at Konoha or  didn't have that stupid plan to kill him, Sasuke never will come closer to her. Both SS/NS and Sakura's characters were destroyed in Kage Summit.  But NS was much more hated in Japan because fake confession and SS fans managed to retain their fanbase and popularity from part 1 also they always have  plenty of confidence in Sasuke's return...

You should have abondoned the series when a serial killer like Gaara become the president of his country, a genocide and child abuser like Itachi becomed the "Hero", Neji tortured and almost Killed Hinata in part 1 or even better Obito the Minato and Kushina's killer becomed the "coolest guy" for Naruto.

 

Sasuke's redemption was destinated to happen and SasuSaku will have some conclusion. Sasuke and Sakura never will end the story as enemies and Sakura sad with him. I agree Kishimoto coud work far better at this instead of rush everything in 699 or make NaruSaku instead of SS.

At this point the only content envolving Sakura are related to Sarada or SS. So if you really hates SasuSaku and any type of material who tries to fix their relationship like novels, Retsuden and Anime Moments and only wants to see Sakura with Nardo. There's nothing to do anymore. Sakura's character  is really dead for you.

Unless a NaruSaku reboots comes out.

 

Why would I want that for a character I like?
Because she's at the hospital being a "Girl-boss" or w/e? Because she's raising her child on her own better than the two parent households? Sorry but I want more for her.

 

At least she isn't the  housewife who gave up her Kunoichi life and medical work like so many people bashed her when the 700 chapter comes out with Sakura using a apron. She is still capable to balance the housewife work with the hospital/Missions.

 

Edited by Therece, 28 April 2023 - 02:50 AM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Out of curiosity, what is good about Sakura, as person that follows PoS that Sasuke is? Because 99% of time people hated on her exactly because how she acted out of her mind around him.

[Tsuki Hoshino]

 

 

I think hard to believe the few old NaruSaku fans helped too much in this votation when is very hard to to find them outside here. But SasuSaku fandom have help from Sasuke fans, female fans and some trolls in One Piece Fandom.

 

 

If you can't find Narusaku fans outside this forum, maybe its because you're not looking and able to engage with them I wonder why that might be...   [There are Narusaku Discords and instant msging services are a bit more popular than old school forums these days.]

Why are we supposed to care who the Sasusaku fandom has help from? its irrelevant. 

The majority of Sasuke fans don't like Sasusaku. They like Narusasu. They like Sasuke alone. They like pretty much anything other than Sasusaku. Being a fan of Sasusaku is typically the hallmark of a Sakura-first fan. As in they care more about what Sakura wants and deserves than they do Sasuke. 
 

 

 

 

 

I can agree. SS was beyond any repair if Sasuke tried to harm Sakura in Part 1, during the War and as Adults.
 

 

Oh well, goodness! I guess we're done here and you can stop trying to convince us of how great Sasusaku is, since HE DID TRY TO HARM HER multiple times. 

 

 

Sasuke wasn't mentally sane in the arc. Sakura was the one who hunted Sasuke to "free Naruto from the promisse".

You can do whatever you want when you're not mentally sane! blow a hole through the chest of the girl who loves you and only wants to help you, threaten to destroy a village because of sins the majority of a populace knows nothing about. Try to kill your teacher. Try to kill your best friend for the 2nd or third time--who knows anymore! Try to Chidori the neck of another friend. 

Its all cool when you're Sasuke. 

 

 Both SS/NS and Sakura's characters were destroyed in Kage Summit.  But NS was much more hated in Japan because fake confession and SS fans managed to retain their fanbase and popularity from part 1 also they always have  plenty of confidence in Sasuke's return...

 

Naruto and Sakura were confidant in Sasuke's return, to the point that they stalked him and disrespected his wishes.

Whats your point? That Sasuke's feelings don't matter to either of them? True. And ultimately, he's still not around so 

 

 

You should have abondoned the series when a serial killer like Gaara become the president of his country, a genocide and child abuser like Itachi becomed the "Hero", Neji tortured and almost Killed Hinata in part 1 or even better Obito the Minato and Kushina's killer becomed the "coolest guy" for Naruto.

 

Sasuke's redemption was destinated to happen and SasuSaku will have some conclusion. Sasuke and Sakura never will end the story as enemies and Sakura sad with him. I agree Kishimoto coud work far better at this instead of rush everything in 699 or make NaruSaku instead of SS.

Do you see me defending Itachi? Do you see me talking about how Gaara being a previously mentally unstable 14yr old village leader seems smart?  

As for Neji, you might want to leave him out of this since he actually regretted his actions, redeemed himself and DIED to become Naruhina's "Cupid". You're not going to see me applauding Obito and Naruto's sudden hero worship either. 

See, the difference between me and you seems to be that I can recognize the problems, accept the good things about the series and reject the trash. I'm not out here going "SS is Canon therefore SS is good or you don't like these characters." 

Kishimoto is a weak writer. He has good ideas, sloppy, lazy execution and follow through and worst of all he's weak willed. He wanted to be done with Naruto after Pein attacked and it shows more with every chapter after. 

SS's "Resolution" never had to be romantic. A simple. "I respect you but our paths are not entwined." would have done it. 

Sasuke's "Redemption" was dogkitten and absolute cringe anyways.

I don't want to see Sakura with "Nardo" I don't kittening care WHO she is with beyond NOT SASUKE. (Which I guess lol, she's not really even "With" him anyways rofl." Why would I be interested in a series that barely even shows the character I like? Do you expect me to just watch every episode in the hopes that I might get a glimpse of Sakura or something? No.

And for that matter why would I care about Salad? Salad, who Ikemoto dresses like a hooker and is essentially a noncharacter? 

I'm not waiting for a reboot and Canon is dead to me, what of it? 

 

 

 

At least she isn't the  housewife who gave up her Kunoichi life and medical work like so many people bashed her when the 700 chapter comes out with Sakura using a apron. She is still capable to balance the housewife work with the hospital/Missions.

 

Wow. What a low bar for success you have .

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 28 April 2023 - 12:43 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

Right. And does Sasuke show any changes to mitigate that neglect? Again. "Sorry means nothing without change." Sure, Sasuke said Sorry to Sakura in near the end of Naruto's run but he's still as indifferent to her as ever and his behavior has not changed regarding her from part I. That is what I also have issue with.

at least endeavor from my hero is trying to atone for what did to his family sure he did bad things but he's trying to make for and knows he can't be redeemed especially after the dabi reveal. 

sasuke can't be redeemed at all 

[Tsuki Hoshino]

at least endeavor from my hero is trying to atone for what did to his family sure he did bad things but he's trying to make for and knows he can't be redeemed especially after the dabi reveal. 

sasuke can't be redeemed at all 

I don't really know if Sasuke "can't be redeemed at all." is true. I guess its a personal opinion. 

I mean, other than leaving Naruto to die in part one after breaking his neck--which Naruto ultimately survived, nothing he's done has had any lasting effects. 

Blowing through Karin's chest? Sakura fixed that. 

Destroying a village? Naruto stopped him from that. 

Every time he's done something bad, in the long term there have been no repercussions because his enablers swoop in and fix all his booboos up. 

Sasuke is an absolutely ridiculous character.

Edited by Tsuki Hoshino, 28 April 2023 - 07:33 PM.

[Kagomaru]

at least endeavor from my hero is trying to atone for what did to his family sure he did bad things but he's trying to make for and knows he can't be redeemed especially after the dabi reveal. 

sasuke can't be redeemed at all 

Same with Bakugo.  He's been nothing but a complete bastard towards Deku since they were kids and now he's trying to make amends for it by apologizing to him for everything that he's done and genuinely trying to look out for him, even when he told All Might that he knows that won't be enough to atone for his abuse. 

I don't really know if Sasuke "can't be redeemed at all." is true. I guess its a personal opinion. 

I mean, other than leaving Naruto to die in part one after breaking his neck--which Naruto ultimately survived, nothing he's done has had any lasting effects. 

Blowing through Karin's chest? Sakura fixed that. 

Destroying a village? Naruto stopped him from that. 

Every time he's done something bad, in the long term there have been no repercussions because his enablers swoop in and fix all his booboos up. 

Sasuke is an absolutely ridiculous character.

Worse, they(and by extension, Kishimoto) excuse his actions by simply shifting the blame over to external forces and pretend that he had no agency in his decisions whatsoever.    Sasuke betrayed Konoha?  Oh, it's not his fault, it's Orochimaru's.   Sasuke wants to destroy the Leaf Village?  Oh, Obito put that idea in his head, so it's not his fault.  Sasuke killing a Hokage? Uhhh...?(MOVING ON!) Sasuke being insane and trying to kill his former friends at any given turn?  Oh well, Uchihas are genetically dispositioned to lose their sanity because their capacity for love is too great for them to mentally process.    

Edited by Kagomaru, 29 April 2023 - 01:45 AM.

[Dalton.T.R]

You know... After recently re-reading and re-watching the series, I gotta say I think I would have honestly rather seen Sakura with Rock Lee than anyone else. After Lee's fight with Gaara, we really got to see how caring and gentle she can be with those she sees as friends, and that she's not a monster like she's made out to be by NH / Hinata fans. While it wasn't really a big ship from what I remember, I do believe the LeeSaku moments were some of the best interactions in the series on a character-to-character level. Of course, there were other moments that outdo them later on, but I would honestly love to see Sakura and Lee get more attention if the series ever got a reboot or something. 

 

I mean, even if it's too straightforward, Lee literally approached Sakura and asked her to be his girlfriend the second he saw her in the hallway of the Chuniin Exams. Can we all agree a brother at least deserves a chance with the girl for being THAT brave right off the bat? The guy didn't waste a second! He literally saw the girl he likes, approached her, asked her to be his girlfriend, then was shot down like a bomber over AAA guns in WWII. The guy deserves AT LEAST a pat on the back if nothing else! 

[Tsuki Hoshino]

 

Worse, they(and by extension, Kishimoto) excuse his actions by simply shifting the blame over to external forces and pretend that he had no agency in his decisions whatsoever.    Sasuke betrayed Konoha?  Oh, it's not his fault, it's Orochimaru's.   Sasuke wants to destroy the Leaf Village?  Oh, Obito put that idea in his head, so it's not his fault.  Sasuke killing a Hokage? Uhhh...?(MOVING ON!) Sasuke being insane and trying to kill his former friends at any given turn?  Oh well, Uchihas are genetically dispositioned to lose their sanity because their capacity for love is too great for them to mentally process.    

Of all the bad things Sasuke has done, I would argue killing Danzo was the morally correct thing to do. Its how he did it that's an issue. He's literally willing to kill an innocent person (Karin) to kill a guilty man and really, that makes him no different than Danzo and all the rest. 

I would have liked a story where Sasuke actually had to face the consequences of his actions but, alas.   

 

 

You know... After recently re-reading and re-watching the series, I gotta say I think I would have honestly rather seen Sakura with Rock Lee than anyone else. 

Sakura with anyone other than Sasuke, Sakura ALONE. kitten, I ship it all. 

Hell, SASORI who also tried killing Sakura, showed more respect and interest in Sakura in the several chapter long fight they had than Sasuke did in the entire manga.  make it make sense pls. This is a joke, but since I ship it in Au setttings its sort of not rofl. 

[LuckyChi7]

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Was just thinking about this the other day again after a long time, and the synergy is definitely there even though The Lost Tower is non-canon  you can definitely sense something between Naruto & Sara. 

 

 

 

Not to mention  NaruSara would be considered the modern day incarnation both metaphorically and literally to MinaKushi.