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[Nar123]

12/13+ 597

↳ YOU SEE HINATA IS THE HEROINE OF NARUTO THE CHARACTER; BUT SAKURA IS THE HEROINE OF NARUTO THE SERIES; ALSO I CAN SEE NS TWISTING THIS INTERVIEW; *SIGHS*;

 

and they say the ns fandom is delusional. okkk if their reaction is normal and we're delusional i'm feeling pretty darn fine for a sick person.

 

 

 

"Hypocrisy at its best" should be their fandom logo

Edited by Nar123, 13 December 2014 - 09:33 PM.

[Khaleesi]

...si.

LMAO. "Esta pollita se va de aquí" It was funny

 

Your character 

?

Edited by theunburnt, 13 December 2014 - 09:34 PM.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

LMAO. "Esta pollita se va de aquí" It was funny

 

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Aha, it's towards me? But I'm just saying I like the way you talking to other people, 

But you made me laugh with this pic.

[FireFox]

The way I see it there are three options at this point:

1. As you said Kishimoto is just trying to piss people off... for some reason.

2. Kishimoto has been exposed as a hack fraud, and whatever success he has had story wise has come from the guiding hand of a good editor, with the help of some promising assistant.

3. Kishimoto right now is just trying to keep the remainder of his fanbase happy, which at this point is largely NH and some SS.So he is acting accordingly.

 

I personally think number 2 is what is going on here.

No . 2   The most clear evidence that he's a fraud is buy how unoriginal he is and now many elements from different mangakas/manga's has incorporated in his story  he lacks originality    heck if count the list of manga's that he has stolen there are just to many  like HxH DBZ . 666 Satan  etc .  

[trang95]

Didn't you tag it as naruhina, sasusaku, pro naruhina and all these things? :v

If you don't want to gain those followers, just tag your post with negative tags.

I was trying to stay "neutral" in my tags b/c I had an unpleasant experience with tags in the past. If I just posted a specific group of tags, I thought the other fandom that was not included would not even have an incentive to read this post. And I wanted to reach every fandom with this interview b/c I was interested in seeing their reactions.

Lol, I'm inexperienced with tags so forgive me T_T I'll see whether or not I will delete them.

[SuperChief]

 

umm i found this one

 

don't know if it works for you 

 

 

This is sort of what I was thinking of, but not quite.

 

I was hoping for one big, long general purpose image that chronicled the development of NS.

 

If someone talented with PS made one, we could just copy+paste it to shut people the hell up when they try to decry NS.

[trang95]

12/13+ 597

↳ YOU SEE HINATA IS THE HEROINE OF NARUTO THE CHARACTER; BUT SAKURA IS THE HEROINE OF NARUTO THE SERIES; ALSO I CAN SEE NS TWISTING THIS INTERVIEW; *SIGHS*;

 

and they say the ns fandom is delusional. okkk if their reaction is normal and we're delusional i'm feeling pretty darn fine for a sick person.

lol, I don't care The overwhelming criticism just nullifies this post into nothing.

[NarutoUzumaki01]

 

This is sort of what I was thinking of, but not quite.

 

I was hoping for one big, long general purpose image that chronicled the development of NS.

 

If someone talented with PS made one, we could just copy+paste it to shut people the hell up when they try to decry NS.

You should know that something smell wrong when people in first place try to decry NS.

[Nar123]

 

This is sort of what I was thinking of, but not quite.

 

I was hoping for one big, long general purpose image that chronicled the development of NS.

 

If someone talented with PS made one, we could just copy+paste it to shut people the hell up when they try to decry NS.

 

 

Man i had one that was like that and compared NS development with NH developmente and SS development

obviously, NS towers above them.

 

Unfortunately i lost this image quite some time ago

[Awes9]

 

Yes, in fact the detail about NH being suggested to him is very telling. I've said all along it wasn't a creative decision but a business one. The rights would have been signed away long ago to have so many different versions of the brand. However I think in 'the end' of the manga should be seen as the end of Kishimoto's day-to-day involvement with the series. It will continue, but under different hands and different guidance than just Kishimoto. (Kishimoto will probably retain some limited creative control...along with receiving his fat royalty check.) 

 

The comment about NH being suggested by someone above him is very telling. The downside of sharing the rights, basically creating by committee, is that Kishimoto would not have had a choice. If they decided NH was best for the brand, then that's how it was going to be.

 

And I still believe, no matter what crazy answers he gives in various interviews, that HInata's usurping of heroine status didn't begin until after RtN was pretty far in the works. If NH is going to be the end pairing, why even have RtN? It's not like they care about smoothing over the other pairings. So RtN wasn't a token movie to make NS fans happy.

 

I think, in the end, Kishimoto stopped caring about the plot and the characters. He left the story with the least possible plot explanations, and he gave the vaguest examples of how the pairings ended up. Then he ended it. I think he knew it was out of his control, and that after him the animators and other illustrators were going to take the story in a very different direction. So why even try. There was simply no resolution for any of them. Not even an attempt to tie in their goals or explain why some pairings happened. Sasuke's surprise love for Sakura is a perfect example. It makes zero sense. 

 

I think it's because Kishimoto no longer cared. And for the same reason he's giving terrible interview after terrible interview. None of them speak of any support for the story, or give you the feeling he cares. It's not like listening to JKR, where you get the feeling the author is invested in their work. After every Kishimoto interview I am left thinking, 'Did he actually read what he was producing?' Because it always feels like he's just a guy from the office who occasionally reads Naruto. Not the guy who actually creates the damn thing.

 

His careless attitude about the characters speaks volumes. I think he's an author who no longer cares about his work.

 

But Kishi said he put in RTN what he couldn't put in the manga and it's in RTN that we get to know Sakura's parents. And now in his new interview he explains that he didn't give Sakura's background because he gave up on her as heroine, so the decision to switch from NS to NH and from Sakura to Hinata was already done at this point.
 

[Nostradamus]

I know, it's so weird. It's like he's intentionally trying to sabotage his lifework. His previous interviews are so on point and he knew exactly what to say! And now it seems like he's a golddigger, but at the same time it's too ridiculous to be real.

 

I'm so confused I'd love to be a mindreader now tbh

To be honest I think he sold his rights to Naruto or was forced to sell his rights. And now he's trying to do whatever it takes to make sure people are going to stop following the continuation.

[Nar123]

No . 2   The most clear evidence that he's a fraud is buy how unoriginal he is and now many elements from different mangakas/manga's has incorporated in his story  he lacks originality    heck if count the list of manga's that he has stolen there are just to many  like HxH DBZ . 666 Satan  etc .  

 

Kishimoto is a good world builder, I mean Naruto's world is phenomenal and amazing....but i always get the impression he is a bad plot maker, the plots in naruto in its majority came from the mind of editors 

[questdrivencollie]

To be honest I think he sold his rights to Naruto or was forced to sell his rights. And now he's trying to do whatever it takes to make sure people are going to stop following the continuation.

This would make the most sense.

[Nar123]

To be honest I think he sold his rights to Naruto or was forced to sell his rights. And now he's trying to do whatever it takes to make sure people are going to stop following the continuation.

 

...or he is just stupid

[Popuri]

Guys, can you give me link to page that interviews is posted? thx.

[Nostradamus]

This would make the most sense.

It's the only thing I can think of right now that makes sense. Because when you think about the development the manga had, the moments in it, Kishi's previous interviews not the latest ones, road to ninja etc. all of that shows that he already know what he wanted to do and he's been telling us exactly where it was heading. But someone else took control and said "kitten you writer we're going to do things my way".

[Khaleesi]

I need to go to take a bath, I'm going to see hanabis with my best friend and her boyfriend :v

If I never come back, it's because I fell of the cliff.

 

I was trying to stay "neutral" in my tags b/c I had an unpleasant experience with tags in the past. If I just posted a specific group of tags, I thought the other fandom that was not included would not even have an incentive to read this post. And I wanted to reach every fandom with this interview b/c I was interested in seeing their reactions.

Lol, I'm inexperienced with tags so forgive me T_T I'll see whether or not I will delete them.

If you wanted to stay neutral, then your tags just could be "naturo the last, naruto the last movie" etc. What you did count as cross-tagging o:

 

Aha, it's towards me? But I'm just saying I like the way you talking to other people, 

But you made me laugh with this pic.

Explain.

[Popuri]

Where is the interview translation? Please link me.

Edited by xpopurix, 13 December 2014 - 09:48 PM.

[Nostradamus]

 

...or he is just stupid

Maybe it's just me trying to justify everything he wrote before. But I really find it hard to believe that someone who wrote a decent story for 15 years would all of a sudden go insane and start mocking everyone that ever read it.