So I'm having a discussion on Sakura/NS and such. Just thought I'd post it here. It's not a bash fest surprisingly either. LOL
Here's a NS fan. RamenRenegade. He actually has a page here.
Lol! Man where were you during my long battles after her confession?! Anyway, completely agreed. You know it's funny to me. The haters love to dismiss any significant NS scene as comedic (and thus insignifant) or freindly. And then they say that IF NS comes about then it will be an asspull without any build up. But what about all the scenes you dismissed over the years?! LMAO! Then they point to the "significant" NH scenes as awesome development when all but three consist of Hinata simeply talking or thinking about Naruto. So we're talking 3 instances where they even spoke. Wow! So awesome. Lol!
Exactly! Conflicted feelings! To me that's what sakura has been dealing with all this time. For years she had felings for Sasuke. But he's not the Sasuke she remembered. He's falling into darkness. All the while, the guy next to her has always been their for her and has become a true hero in every sense of the word. I've always gotten the sense that she's conflicted about her feelings.
Ok, I remember the Pain arc. But I wasn't really reading the manga during the war. I would skip chapters. I'll have to go back to find what you're talking about.
Sadly, no you don't have to factor in Hinata's confession. Because her confession has no bearing on what Naruto thinks, regarding sakura's confession. And to answer your question. YES! Naruto would continue to wait and try to prove himself. Why? Because he's that kind of stubborn. We're talking abotu Naruto here. The one who allowed himself to be beaten by Karui and tried to convince the Raikage to spare Sasuke even after he heard what he'd done. He's that kind of stubborn. And considering Kishi has done this before, in regards to allowing unrequited love to go unfullfilled (Rin for Kakashi, Tobi for Rin, Jman for Tsunade) why is it impossible that he would create a NS ending and allow Hinata's love for Naruto to go unfullfilled?
I can see the whoel regret angle. But what never made sense to me is the idea that she confessed to Naruto out of pity or regret or obligation. Because she didn't have to do that. What Sai was talking about was that Naruto's love for her was forcing him to continue to keep the PoaL. So all Sakura had to do was end the PoaL. Which she did in her confession. All she had to say was she doesn't love sasuke and you don't have to keep your promise. Period. Why add the confession? All adding a confession that you is a lie would do is make things complicated for no reason. So why add it if it's a lie anyway? I mean what if he had believed her? Are you saying Sakura was about to enter a relationship (and possible marriage) out of obligation? Doubt it.
My response...
What always throws me off is how people claim they lack any mutual development. Better yet any development that'll push for them to happen. This is where I question whether or not we're reading the same manga considering NS development has been plastered all over the manga. From small moments, to large moments, they're there, and in plain sight. Just because Kishi tends to coat certain moments with comedy doesn't make the moments any less impacting or meaningful. NS is far from an asspull, and to call it that is nothing short of ridiculous.
I'd acknowledge NH more if there were more. Sure, they've had meaningful moments, but as I've said time and time again, from a romantic standpoint, it's all Hinata. Naruto continues to show no interest in her romantically. After her confession. Nothing. After her eyes comment. Nothing. After her slap/speech/hand holding. Nothing. It'd be nice if this is the route Kishi tends to go, show us some Naruto>Hinata when it comes to romance.
Anyway, yes, she's likely conflicted. She went from having unsure feelings for Naruto to whatever she has going on now. IMO, it's more than friendship, and it's not sisterly love either. I actually wonder how Kishi's gonna push her feelings for Naruto and close her feelings for Sasuke. Shall be an interesting set of events for sure but yeah. Naruto's always been there for her, making her happy. At this point, it feels as though she'd go the extra mile for Naruto.
LOL I would post the panel but I'm lazy. I think it's in 615 or 616. Either one of those.
Disastrousmaster-NH fan
wait, what? you talk about all the things we have to factor in and you deny one of the biggest factors from our angle? >_> a bit hypocritical if you ask me there. Her confession has quite a lot of significance. She was the first person to tell Naruto that she loved him, as in the first ever to say that. That in and of itself is a big factor. Now I will say that Kishi does allow unrequited love to go unfulfilled, this is true, but if you take in the angle that it was seen from the kakashi saying that the person whom truly loved her was Obito, and then apply it to Sakura's confession and Naruto's response you get a similar thing. Not the same thing, but a similar thing. It doesn't happen, due to knowledge of another factor that hasnt been resolved so far. I know that you could argue that this could also imply narusaku, and it does to an extent. The fact that he denied it also goes into effect there though. It just seems to me like kishi likes to keep his readers reading it all the way through, and once he gives a complete concrete side being true, he will lose a large fanbase. As he probably doesnt want to do that, he will keep putting in these things that can be interpreted multiple ways.
As far as her entering a relationship with Naruto out of obligation. I have no idea why she would even do something like that, considering what happened with Hinata. Well, maybe if she didn't realize that Hinata had confessed to Naruto then. But as to why she would tell him that she loves him, as a way to release him from his obligation, perhaps she thought he wouldn't believe it unless she showed she was after someone other than Sasuke. Of course from that angle, she could have picked someone else, but anyone other than Naruto would have rung hollow. >_> Still quite low of her to confess to Naruto after realizing that Hinata Loved him. If the confession was in complete seriousness, I would see it as even more of a degradation of Sakura's character. It would show her panicking at the possibility of losing Naruto as well as Sasuke. Wanting to have that fallback, should she not be able to have Sasuke. Meh, people see things differently I guess.
LOL, I didn't forget about that panel where she figures that Hinata loves Naruto. I acknowledged it, but if anything, I've felt that it was a means to show Sakura's inner feelings for Naruto through her response. I don't feel as though she'd support NH because she loves Naruto. I could see Hinata settling on her feelings for Naruto before Sakura does but that's just me. Hinata seems like the type that'll be happy with Naruto being happy. Look at her response to the hug. 
It's been shown in Part 1 that Naruto was pushing for SS even though he didn't want to. It was all over his face, and in his response in certain scenes. I feel like Sakura's showing the same expressions both in the Pain Arc, and War arc.
Another thing... Hinata's confession has nothing to do with Sakura's actions. Why even bring that in as a factor to Sakura's confession as if it was ringing in the back of her head. There's a reason why her feelings are likely conflicted, and I think it has very little to do with the possibility of her losing both of them. Why would she force herself to love Naruto? She was prepared to lose Sasuke and shoulder the hate she'd receive from Naruto because she did kill Sasuke... Makes no sense to me...
I don't hate it like others do, but I sure don't like it.
I don't know where you got the last part from, if I was Kishi I would care about all my characters because they are my creation. He even cares about the baddies.
they're ignorance is over nine thousand.
