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[alexander]

Actually, I'm putting major money on Bee being the one to bring this up. Bee will fist bump with Sakura and realize about their relationship. Touched by their story, he writes some rap ballad lyrics that makes a tribute to their relationship and sings it out in the camp for everyone to hear, much to to Naruto & Sakura's embarrassment.

I can see the K-11 holding them down, preventing them from escaping all the while grinning at their predicament. Ino & Shikamaru would probably have a field day with it. To add more fun, Gaara gets in on the fun and when Naruto begs to him he switches his poker face to a smirk, clearly indicating his amusement which will just reduce Naruto to tears.

While I find this idea of Bee pretty funny, I also find it unlikely. If someone brings up the subject, it would be Lee. But I think Naruto and Sakura would discuss such an matter in private, if they discuss at all. They are in the middle of an war, relationship issues is not the top priority right now, besides, Kishi wouldn't dare to lose the support he gets from other shippers.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Actually, I think I'd like to add Bee up there too 'cause Bee to me, looks a lot like a big brother Naruto never had. And it's interesting enough that Bee is also a foil to Naruto himself. Bee is what Naruto would've turned out like had Minato let Kushina die sealing Kurama again and stayed by his side.




Actually, I'm putting major money on Bee being the one to bring this up. Bee will fist bump with Sakura and realize about their relationship. Touched by their story, he writes some rap ballad lyrics that makes a tribute to their relationship and sings it out in the camp for everyone to hear, much to to Naruto & Sakura's embarrassment.

I can see the K-11 holding them down, preventing them from escaping all the while grinning at their predicament. Ino & Shikamaru would probably have a field day with it. To add more fun, Gaara gets in on the fun and when Naruto begs to him he switches his poker face to a smirk, clearly indicating his amusement which will just reduce Naruto to tears.

Well, Bee is definitely great friend to Naruto, but the one I named above are his closest bonds of them all. They're the first bonds for Naruto. It all began with Iruka, then Team 7. After them, the rest are friends. Jiraiya was one exception because he was a grandfather to him, which is sad because he's the god father, but Naruto did train with him for more than 2 years, so of course his bond with him will be strong.

Also, a fist bump idea sounds plausible. Gaara as a jinchuuriki, knows Naruto about loneliness, while Bee knows Naruto about foundation of bonds. After all, Bee is all about friends in rap style, or whatever he's doing now.

[Traci]

If a pairing isn't crack just because one person loves the other, then what is crack?
Because from your explanation, Sakura X Love letter ninja isn't crack either. In your explanation, you X your stalker won't be crack either.
Love letter ninja, Lee, Hinata both love a person who doesn't love them back. What differentiates the former from the latter?
And as far as I know, I still believe Lee is in love with Sakura, with how he tried to comfort her during the war saying he will protect her with his life (not to mention the Rock Lee gaiden).

And yes, I believe the only difference between LS and NH is popularity. Lee does the exact same thing with Sakura, risking his life to protect her, but his actions doesn't get as much applause as Hinata does in the pairing base. LS is much healthier and probable than SS, yet pairing fans thinks SS will have a bigger chance of happening. It's all about what the pairing fans prefer. Pairing fans don't want to root for Lee, because he's not handsome or overpowered or anything. And to be honest when I was a SS fan, I only rooted for the pairing because Sasuke was cool and handsome and strong that I wanted him to have a pretty girlfriend.

Sure, NS maybe a minority when it comes to fans who read mangas for pairing reasons only, but I believe they are a majority for people who reads it for actions or plot reasons. It's just that these people don't voice their opinions about pairings so often or don't get on the internet to discuss about the manga.

Similar thing happened when I was talking with my friend who read only volume one. I was like discussing how bad I felt for Naruto because he was so lonely. Then my friend said, "what about that pink-haired girl? I thought she will be his girlfriend." And I wanted to shout, "Not yet! They will soon" but kept silent because I didn't want my friend to know that I'm into pairings

True... Well, here's TVTropes definition of a crack pairing:

"Shipping beyond all bounds of sanity. There are official couples and there are couples drawn from more-or-less subjective subtext, and then there are pairings that make you go "HOOBA JOOBA WHAAAA?!" Characters who are shipped together despite barely even having a relationship in canon. Sometimes they haven't even met in canon. Sometimes they don't even belong to the same 'verse (that's what cross overs are for, after all) or to the same species. Sometimes they aren't even both carbon-based lifeforms.

Crack pairings range from the making-you-scratch-your-head-in-puzzlement weird, to the eyes-gouging-with-a-fork-inducing weird. But they always leave you asking "Why? By all that is holy, WHY?"

If NH happened, it wouldn't really be "HOOBA JOOBA WHAAA?!" in the sense that it came out of nowhere. I suppose you could say that Naruto and Hinata barely have a relationship in canon, but it wouldn't be completely and utterly out there because Hinata is always shown admiring Naruto and Naruto has never actually rejected her. As for the stalker part, if you don't like them stalking you, chances are you've rejected their feelings.

For me, NH isn't a crack pairing (if Naruto rejects Hinata's confession, I will then consider it crack), but SS is... If NH happened, I would be like, "What? What? Was I missing something?" If SS happened, um, wow, just WOW. SS is crack, because if trying to someone isn't the rejection of their feelings, then I don't know what is.

[KnS]

And yes, I believe the only difference between LS and NH is popularity. Lee does the exact same thing with Sakura, risking his life to protect her, but his actions doesn't get as much applause as Hinata does in the pairing base. LS is much healthier and probable than SS, yet pairing fans thinks SS will have a bigger chance of happening. It's all about what the pairing fans prefer. Pairing fans don't want to root for Lee, because he's not handsome or overpowered or anything.

I agree with you. Hinata's popularity is astonishing to me, especially when the qualities she is praised and defended for are also demonstratred by Lee. Where is the committed outrage that Lee's feelings aren't the deciding factor of the manga? /sarcasm

But I have to say I do root for Lee! I love Lee. I wish his feelings for Sakura could be returned, because let's face it, Sakura could do a lot worse than Lee. But as much as I like Lee, I can't support him winning Sakura at the cost of Naruto's feelings. My support of Naruto is unwavering and absolute.

And to be honest when I was a SS fan, I only rooted for the pairing because Sasuke was cool and handsome and strong that I wanted him to have a pretty girlfriend.

That's interesting. I liked Sasuke in Part I, in the sense that he had an intriguing backstory and his attitude was so the opposite of Naruto. But I NEVER liked him for Sakura, for the simple reason that although Sasuke showed a grudging acceptance / respect / bond with Naruto, he was always cold and condescending toward Sakura. Even during Sakura's hysterical fangirling stage, I never bought SS as the possible end game. There was no chemistry and zero mojo, while NS had it in spades -- despite Sakura's determination to believe in Sasuke as a White Knight. I couldn't care less about seeing Sasuke win the affection of a nice (if misguided) girl, especially at the expense of Naruto's feelings and dreams.

As for the "what makes a crack pairing" debate, surely the deciding factor is authorial intent? I don't consider any pairing that the author implies as meaningful in the formation of his/her characters, or that he/she purposely uses to confuse readers as to the characters' true feelings, to be crack -- whether it is one-sided or not. If the author develops the pairing in some form to add dimension to the plot or the characters, it is not crack. So to me, NH, SS, LS, and NS (obviously) are not crack.

Crack pairings are those that fans ship purely for shock, kicks, or whatever. They are pairings formed between characters who have demonstrated no romantic interaction in the story, or may not have even met, or who hate each other, or maybe are paired randomly just based on physical attributes. Crack pairings usually involve a highly sexualized component, manufactured angst, or the use of canon conflict between the characters for the sake of fan titillation.

Pairings Gaara/Lee, Gaara/Sai, Kakashi/Sakura, Itachi/Sakura, Kankuro/Sakura, Sasuke/Hinata, Tenten/Hinata, etc., are pure crack, in my opinion. Nothing wrong with liking them, or playing around with them in fan fiction, but they're crack.

[Traci]

I agree with you. Hinata's popularity is astonishing to me, especially when the qualities she is praised and defended for are also demonstratred by Lee. Where is the committed outrage that Lee's feelings aren't the deciding factor of the manga? /sarcasm

But I have to say I do root for Lee! I love Lee. I wish his feelings for Sakura could be returned, because let's face it, Sakura could do a lot worse than Lee. But as much as I like Lee, I can't support him winning Sakura at the cost of Naruto's feelings. My support of Naruto is unwavering and absolute.


That's interesting. I liked Sasuke in Part I, in the sense that he had an intriguing backstory and his attitude was so the opposite of Naruto. But I NEVER liked him for Sakura, for the simple reason that although Sasuke showed a grudging acceptance / respect / bond with Naruto, he was always cold and condescending toward Sakura. Even during Sakura's hysterical fangirling stage, I never bought SS as the possible end game. There was no chemistry and zero mojo, while NS had it in spades -- despite Sakura's determination to believe in Sasuke as a White Knight. I couldn't care less about seeing Sasuke win the affection of a nice (if misguided) girl, especially at the expense of Naruto's feelings and dreams.

As for the "what makes a crack pairing" debate, surely the deciding factor is authorial intent? I don't consider any pairing that the author implies as meaningful in the formation of his/her characters, or that he/she purposely uses to confuse readers as to the characters' true feelings, to be crack -- whether it is one-sided or not. If the author develops the pairing in some form to add dimension to the plot or the characters, it is not crack. So to me, NH, SS, LS, and NS (obviously) are not crack.

Crack pairings are those that fans ship purely for shock, kicks, or whatever. They are pairings formed between characters who have demonstrated no romantic interaction in the story, or may not have even met, or who hate each other, or maybe are paired randomly just based on physical attributes. Crack pairings usually involve a highly sexualized component, manufactured angst, or the use of canon conflict between the characters for the sake of fan titillation.

Pairings Gaara/Lee, Gaara/Sai, Kakashi/Sakura, Itachi/Sakura, Kankuro/Sakura, Sasuke/Hinata, Tenten/Hinata, etc., are pure crack, in my opinion. Nothing wrong with liking them, or playing around with them in fan fiction, but they're crack.

I feel there are two versions of Hinata, if that makes sense. Canon Hinata and fanon Hinata. While canon Hinata is a good person, her good qualities are completely blown up and her flaws are erased or looked over by many of her fans, producing fanon Hinata. Here's a quote I found:

"Canon-Hinata is a side character who could proclaim her love and be shoved off like it wasn't important while fanon-Hinata is a major character who once she proclaims her love Naruto stops everything to make love to her. Fanon-Hinata is the leading cause to aneurisms. Fanon-Hinata takes all of Canon-Hinata's traits and elevates them to over 9000. My gosh there is so many things wrong with her fanon portrayal that words can not accurately describe them."

[kidNinja]

I agree with you. Hinata's popularity is astonishing to me, especially when the qualities she is praised and defended for are also demonstratred by Lee. Where is the committed outrage that Lee's feelings aren't the deciding factor of the manga? /sarcasm

But I have to say I do root for Lee! I love Lee. I wish his feelings for Sakura could be returned, because let's face it, Sakura could do a lot worse than Lee. But as much as I like Lee, I can't support him winning Sakura at the cost of Naruto's feelings. My support of Naruto is unwavering and absolute.


That's interesting. I liked Sasuke in Part I, in the sense that he had an intriguing backstory and his attitude was so the opposite of Naruto. But I NEVER liked him for Sakura, for the simple reason that although Sasuke showed a grudging acceptance / respect / bond with Naruto, he was always cold and condescending toward Sakura. Even during Sakura's hysterical fangirling stage, I never bought SS as the possible end game. There was no chemistry and zero mojo, while NS had it in spades -- despite Sakura's determination to believe in Sasuke as a White Knight. I couldn't care less about seeing Sasuke win the affection of a nice (if misguided) girl, especially at the expense of Naruto's feelings and dreams.

As for the "what makes a crack pairing" debate, surely the deciding factor is authorial intent? I don't consider any pairing that the author implies as meaningful in the formation of his/her characters, or that he/she purposely uses to confuse readers as to the characters' true feelings, to be crack -- whether it is one-sided or not. If the author develops the pairing in some form to add dimension to the plot or the characters, it is not crack. So to me, NH, SS, LS, and NS (obviously) are not crack.

Crack pairings are those that fans ship purely for shock, kicks, or whatever. They are pairings formed between characters who have demonstrated no romantic interaction in the story, or may not have even met, or who hate each other, or maybe are paired randomly just based on physical attributes. Crack pairings usually involve a highly sexualized component, manufactured angst, or the use of canon conflict between the characters for the sake of fan titillation.

Pairings Gaara/Lee, Gaara/Sai, Kakashi/Sakura, Itachi/Sakura, Kankuro/Sakura, Sasuke/Hinata, Tenten/Hinata, etc., are pure crack, in my opinion. Nothing wrong with liking them, or playing around with them in fan fiction, but they're crack.

Lol, when a girl "white knights" a guy, she's a Pink Knight. WhiteKnights is only when its guy ----> girl.

[KnS]

Lol, when a girl "white knights" a guy, she's a Pink Knight. WhiteKnights is only when its guy ----> girl.

I don't have the slightest idea what this comment is supposed to mean.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Lol, when a girl "white knights" a guy, she's a Pink Knight. WhiteKnights is only when its guy ----> girl.

You get the wrong idea of what white knights are

According to the MISC on the BodyBuilding website: A white knight is defined as a male that treats woman as goddesses and does nothing but shower then in compliments on how wonderful and beautiful and special they are. Maybe be used as a noun or a verb.
Brah, if you keep white knighting every girl you meet, you'll never get as action.



sakura never treated sasuke like this, actually when she was kind to sasuke, he was rude and told her "this is none of your business"

Edited by dovahkiin, 02 August 2012 - 11:16 PM.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I feel there are two versions of Hinata, if that makes sense. Canon Hinata and fanon Hinata. While canon Hinata is a good person, her good qualities are completely blown up and her flaws are erased or looked over by many of her fans, producing fanon Hinata. Here's a quote I found:

"Canon-Hinata is a side character who could proclaim her love and be shoved off like it wasn't important while fanon-Hinata is a major character who once she proclaims her love Naruto stops everything to make love to her. Fanon-Hinata is the leading cause to aneurisms. Fanon-Hinata takes all of Canon-Hinata's traits and elevates them to over 9000. My gosh there is so many things wrong with her fanon portrayal that words can not accurately describe them."

That's so true. I still can't believe Hinata was listed the 6th most popular Naruto character, right after Itachi(Which is ridiculous. 'CAUSE SHE DOESN'T AND NEVER WILL TOUCH ONE INCH OF ITACHI'S AWESOMENESS ).

I've even seen neutral fans call Hinata's fanbase disgusting and annoying. If even Kishi displays annoyance at Hinata's fanbase, it most be out of hand. On top of that, they end up comparing Hinata to Sakura and call Sakura a worse character . I sometimes wish Hinata was never created as a Naruto character .

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 02 August 2012 - 11:20 PM.

[Verilance]

I object to that Hinata is a wonderful character who story is one about the struggle for acceptance from a domineering family. the Hyuga all but abandoned her, her cousin hated her and tried to kill her. Only through watching and admiring Naruto could she find the strength to overcome the obstacles in her way.

This is the point that most NaruHina fans miss though, her final obstacle is Naruto himself, unless she moves past him, she will remain weak at heart. If she is to regain the role of heiress to the Hyuga clan she must do it on her own two feet not trailing behind the hero of the village

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I object to that Hinata is a wonderful character who story is one about the struggle for acceptance from a domineering family. the Hyuga all but abandoned her, her cousin hated her and tried to kill her. Only through watching and admiring Naruto could she find the strength to overcome the obstacles in her way.

This is the point that most NaruHina fans miss though, her final obstacle is Naruto himself, unless she moves past him, she will remain weak at heart. If she is to regain the role of heiress to the Hyuga clan she must do it on her own two feet not trailing behind the hero of the village

Yes sometimes i dont understand all the worship towards hinata character her problem is her will , she has a weak will and she does not believe in naruto she always "hey they are strong i dont think he would be able to defeat them i must help", naruto fight with neji she faint because she believe that neji would kick naruto's ass, sakura believe in naruto and has faith on him, hinata does not have when naruto clone met her she said that she was weak and cant protect him.

[Traci]

I object to that Hinata is a wonderful character who story is one about the struggle for acceptance from a domineering family. the Hyuga all but abandoned her, her cousin hated her and tried to kill her. Only through watching and admiring Naruto could she find the strength to overcome the obstacles in her way.

This is the point that most NaruHina fans miss though, her final obstacle is Naruto himself, unless she moves past him, she will remain weak at heart. If she is to regain the role of heiress to the Hyuga clan she must do it on her own two feet not trailing behind the hero of the village

I don't think Hinata is a terrible character at all and I do think she deserves to be liked. What I'm trying to say is they're taking the qualities of a good character and blowing them up to make her a perfect character.

I always hear fans saying that Hinata is prettier, smarter, stronger, nicer, cooler, and just completely superior to "insert character here." The irony is, when I shout, "Mary-Sue!" they completely deny it.

As for wishing Hinata wasn't in the series at all, I don't think we should blame the character for being overrated. The fans are the ones who should be blamed. Anyways, I don't mind that Hinata is well-liked, it just erks me when people try to make her sound like she's better than another character in every way when she's not.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

I don't think Hinata is a terrible character at all and I do think she deserves to be liked. What I'm trying to say is they're taking the qualities of a good character and blowing them up to make her a perfect character.

I always hear fans saying that Hinata is prettier, smarter, stronger, nicer, cooler, and just completely superior to "insert character here." The irony is, when I shout, "Mary-Sue!" they completely deny it.

As for wishing Hinata wasn't in the series at all, I don't think we should blame the character for being overrated. The fans are the ones who should be blamed. Anyways, I don't mind that Hinata is well-liked, it just erks me when people try to make her sound like she's better than another character in every way when she's not.

You dont get what i'm saying i'm saying that she has a lot of defects and negative traits but her fan sasy

"sakura is a ****"
"sakura is a 'insert a random insult here'"
this is the problem they saying that hinata is best that sakura.

[KnS]

You get the wrong idea of what white knights are

According to the MISC on the BodyBuilding website: A white knight is defined as a male that treats woman as goddesses and does nothing but shower then in compliments on how wonderful and beautiful and special they are. Maybe be used as a noun or a verb.

sakura never treated sasuke like this, actually when she was kind to sasuke, he was rude and told her "this is none of your business"

Actually, a white knight is someone who fights heroically or a champion who fights for a cause. Sakura absolutely thought of Sasuke as a white knight, even assuming that he had been the one who saved her from Gaara when it was really Naruto. White knight, in this context, is a lot like a "knight in shining armor."

[ramenanmitsu]

But I have to say I do root for Lee! I love Lee. I wish his feelings for Sakura could be returned, because let's face it, Sakura could do a lot worse than Lee. But as much as I like Lee, I can't support him winning Sakura at the cost of Naruto's feelings. My support of Naruto is unwavering and absolute.

Me too. He's a great character! I want to root for him, but only if Naruto didn't love Sakura. If Naruto is in love with Sakura, I want him to get the girl he loves.

That's interesting. I liked Sasuke in Part I, in the sense that he had an intriguing backstory and his attitude was so the opposite of Naruto. But I NEVER liked him for Sakura, for the simple reason that although Sasuke showed a grudging acceptance / respect / bond with Naruto, he was always cold and condescending toward Sakura. Even during Sakura's hysterical fangirling stage, I never bought SS as the possible end game. There was no chemistry and zero mojo, while NS had it in spades -- despite Sakura's determination to believe in Sasuke as a White Knight. I couldn't care less about seeing Sasuke win the affection of a nice (if misguided) girl, especially at the expense of Naruto's feelings and dreams.

Actually, I think you misunderstood me. I only liked SasuSaku for the sake of Sasuke, not Sakura. I didn't like Sakura before and I hated Naruto because he was annoying. Sasuke was cool, handsome, and had depth in his character and I was a big fan of him. I thought since, Sakura is pretty, smart, and going to be the new sannin, I thought she would be a great match for him. But in the start of Shippuuden, my opinions changed. I started to like Sakura and thought she deserved more than being just a pairing candidate for Sasuke. I also started to really love Naruto after the Sasuke retrieval arc, and root for him (in romance too). He' such a great guy, I want him to have everything! And I started to lose every interest for Sasuke. Sasuke's character started to bore the hell out of me. There goes the end to my SasuSaku days...

I don't think Hinata is a terrible character at all and I do think she deserves to be liked. What I'm trying to say is they're taking the qualities of a good character and blowing them up to make her a perfect character.

I always hear fans saying that Hinata is prettier, smarter, stronger, nicer, cooler, and just completely superior to "insert character here." The irony is, when I shout, "Mary-Sue!" they completely deny it.

As for wishing Hinata wasn't in the series at all, I don't think we should blame the character for being overrated. The fans are the ones who should be blamed. Anyways, I don't mind that Hinata is well-liked, it just erks me when people try to make her sound like she's better than another character in every way when she's not.

If she's really a great character, they wouldn't need to bring other characters down to make her shine. She will shine by her own. But that's not the case, because people can't prove otherwise how great she is.

To prove Minato is fast, you don't see Minato fans go around and say, "Minato is faster than Kiba! Minato is faster than Shino! Minato is faster than Neji!" do you?
No, because it's ***kin' obvious that he's faster! Minato fans don't feel threatened by the presence of other characters.

Edited by narunarunaru, 03 August 2012 - 12:09 AM.

[Traci]

Me too. He's a great character! I want to root for him, but only if Naruto didn't love Sakura. If Naruto is in love with Sakura, I want him to get the girl he loves.


Actually, I think you misunderstood me. I only liked SasuSaku for the sake of Sasuke, not Sakura. I didn't like Sakura before and I hated Naruto because he was annoying. Sasuke was cool, handsome, and had depth in his character and I was a big fan of him. I thought since, Sakura is pretty, smart, and going to be the new sannin, I thought she would be a great match for him. But in the start of Shippuuden, my opinions changed. I started to like Sakura and thought she deserved more than being just a pairing candidate for Sasuke. I also started to really love Naruto after the Sasuke retrieval arc, and root for him (in romance too). He' such a great guy, I want him to have everything! And I started to lose every interest for Sasuke. Sasuke's character started to bore the hell out of me. There goes the end to my SasuSaku days...

If she's really a great character, they wouldn't need to bring other characters down to make her shine. She will shine by her own. But that's not the case, because people can't prove otherwise how great she is.

To prove Minato is fast, you don't see Minato fans go around and say, "Minato is faster than Kiba! Minato is faster than Shino! Minato is faster than Neji!" do you?
No, because it's ***kin' obvious that he's faster! Minato fans don't feel threatened by the presence of other characters.

Agreed. Also, if people think Sakura is so terrible, and then they say Hinata is better than her, then that's not saying much, is it? If people think Sakura is horrible, why don't they compare Hinata to other characters? I mean, it's soo obvious that Hinata is better than Sakura, right? So stop beating a dead horse and tell me why Hinata is better in every way than Lee, Neji, Shikamaru, Temari, Gaara, etc. *This doesn't just apply to people who bash Sakura to make Hinata look better, but also those who bash Ino and TenTen as well.*

[redragon88]

I object to that Hinata is a wonderful character who story is one about the struggle for acceptance from a domineering family. the Hyuga all but abandoned her, her cousin hated her and tried to kill her. Only through watching and admiring Naruto could she find the strength to overcome the obstacles in her way.

This is the point that most NaruHina fans miss though, her final obstacle is Naruto himself, unless she moves past him, she will remain weak at heart. If she is to regain the role of heiress to the Hyuga clan she must do it on her own two feet not trailing behind the hero of the village

She might be in her way of overcoming those obstacles. She did proclaim the last time we saw her that she would stop chasing after Naruto once and for all, she might've said it because she now knows that in order for her to grow as a person she most stop running after the shadow of another and forge her own path.

The whole deal of standing beside him and holding his hand might've just been her resolving to be equal to him as a fellow ninja, not about romance.

[Traci]

She might be in her way of overcoming those obstacles. She did proclaim the last time we saw her that she would stop chasing after Naruto once and for all, she might've said it because she now knows that in order for her to grow as a person she most stop running after the shadow of another and forge her own path.

The whole deal of standing beside him and holding his hand might've just been her resolving to be equal to him as a fellow ninja, not about romance.

I thought about that, but the "holding his hand" part doesn't sound like a metaphor. For now, I'll just see it as romantic, so I don't end up being surprised. If it turns out that it simply was a metaphor for being equal to him, then Kishimoto was being really tricky when he wrote that scene.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

I object to that Hinata is a wonderful character who story is one about the struggle for acceptance from a domineering family. the Hyuga all but abandoned her, her cousin hated her and tried to kill her. Only through watching and admiring Naruto could she find the strength to overcome the obstacles in her way.

This is the point that most NaruHina fans miss though, her final obstacle is Naruto himself, unless she moves past him, she will remain weak at heart. If she is to regain the role of heiress to the Hyuga clan she must do it on her own two feet not trailing behind the hero of the village

I think Hinata is an ok character. If not for the fact that she thinks about Naruto in every panel she's in, I would like her a lot more than I do now. It's just her fanbase annoys me when they blow her up to be better than every other character and degrade Sakura while there at it. That's all.

I guess I truly don't wish Hinata wasn't created, just her fanbase to be a bit more realistic, you know .

EDIT: Off-topic I know, but someone on Youtube is trying to argue to me that Naruto's feelings for Sakura are "just a crush"(What the hell! Are people still trying to argue this when the manga/anime has proven them wrong.) but Hinata's and Sakura's are "love".

Edited by xxRomanceGirlxx, 03 August 2012 - 01:29 AM.

[redragon88]

I wanted to show the Databook info on Karin to point some things out:



1) It pretty interesting that the giant quote used to introduce her character in this page is one in which she reprimands Sasuke. It immediately sets her apart since she's one of the few people (and the only girl) to ever lash out to Sasuke. It shows she considers herself equal to him. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think Karin is also the only girl who refers to Sasuke without the "-kun", which means she establishes good familiarity with him.

2) In her paragraph description it says that she was never loyal to Orochimaru but kept on serving him because of her love for Sasuke. Then it ends with the question "Why is she so obsessed with him?" as if her dedication to Sasuke is for something beyond her attraction to him. It will be interesting when Taka encounters Karin since Ororchimaru is also with them, but most of all because of what's happened between Sasuke and Karin.

3) At the bottom left it mentions how Karin conceals a dangerous love for Sasuke. This makes her different from other girls since it means that her style of love is open and aggressive instead of being meek and submissive (Sakura) or just of simple idolization (Part 1 Sakura and Ino, random girls).

Karin is the only girl who's not afraid to stand on equal grounds with Sasuke. She insults him, criticizes his decision, doesn't care to use the suffix -kun with his name, and can take the initiative with him if necessary. She's the kind of girl who isn't afraid to butt heads with him even if she loves him, that's why she's the best suited girl for Sasuke.