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[Liu bie]

I think Tony's minions or something. It's funny because the scarf was in Hinata's bag and it goes out like a snake and wraps around Naruto and shows all her memories.

The kitten

No wonder they put Kurama to sleep.

[Tiller]

The mess I'm hearing about this movie continue to grows. LOL. How can NH be proud? Like really?

Hinata got the D at least twice. That's what matters to them. Sad but true.

[Askia31]

http://www.narutofor...5&postcount=239

 

denial. jeez i feel the same as nh fans when they kept quoting us.

[Nostradamus]

I can't believe I wasted my time for this man....no he doesn't even deserve to be called a man.... I don't even know which words to use to describe him.

Monster?

[Swagkura]

Does Teuchi even know who the kitten Hinata is? Lmfao

[六道仙人]

The mess I'm hearing about this movie continue to grows. LOL. How can NH be proud? Like really?

they don't even care... the important thing is that hinata-sam has been able to get naruto's kitten

[NarutoUzumaki01]

http://www.narutofor...5&postcount=239

 

denial. jeez i feel the same as nh fans when they kept quoting us.

PLEASE, post with the biggest font size possible "NH FANS - YOU ARE PATHETIC"

Edited by NarutoUzumaki01, 13 December 2014 - 08:08 PM.

[Luna]

Hinata got the D at least twice. That's what matters to them. Sad but true.

As far as Sai is concerned it's small. To bad for her.

[tricksie]

It doesn't work that way. The manga publisher and SP both own at least a portion of the rights to the Naruto franchise, so even if Kishimoto no longer had a contract with either of them, he can't legally write anything related to Naruto with another company. Of course we don't know the terms involved in Kishimoto's contract, but for all we know he could have signed over the rights to Naruto fully to his publisher. Which would mean he has no creative control at all, and once the contract has expired he could just be replaced with another writer for the spinoff and he would have no say in it at all. That is if that's actually the case, I don't know if it is.

 

Yes, in fact the detail about NH being suggested to him is very telling. I've said all along it wasn't a creative decision but a business one. The rights would have been signed away long ago to have so many different versions of the brand. However I think in 'the end' of the manga should be seen as the end of Kishimoto's day-to-day involvement with the series. It will continue, but under different hands and different guidance than just Kishimoto. (Kishimoto will probably retain some limited creative control...along with receiving his fat royalty check.) 

 

The comment about NH being suggested by someone above him is very telling. The downside of sharing the rights, basically creating by committee, is that Kishimoto would not have had a choice. If they decided NH was best for the brand, then that's how it was going to be.

 

And I still believe, no matter what crazy answers he gives in various interviews, that HInata's usurping of heroine status didn't begin until after RtN was pretty far in the works. If NH is going to be the end pairing, why even have RtN? It's not like they care about smoothing over the other pairings. So RtN wasn't a token movie to make NS fans happy.

 

I think, in the end, Kishimoto stopped caring about the plot and the characters. He left the story with the least possible plot explanations, and he gave the vaguest examples of how the pairings ended up. Then he ended it. I think he knew it was out of his control, and that after him the animators and other illustrators were going to take the story in a very different direction. So why even try. There was simply no resolution for any of them. Not even an attempt to tie in their goals or explain why some pairings happened. Sasuke's surprise love for Sakura is a perfect example. It makes zero sense. 

 

I think it's because Kishimoto no longer cared. And for the same reason he's giving terrible interview after terrible interview. None of them speak of any support for the story, or give you the feeling he cares. It's not like listening to JKR, where you get the feeling the author is invested in their work. After every Kishimoto interview I am left thinking, 'Did he actually read what he was producing?' Because it always feels like he's just a guy from the office who occasionally reads Naruto. Not the guy who actually creates the damn thing.

 

His careless attitude about the characters speaks volumes. I think he's an author who no longer cares about his work.

[Jio Freed]

 

 
Yes, in fact the detail about NH being suggested to him is very telling. I've said all along it wasn't a creative decision but a business one. The rights would have been signed away long ago to have so many different versions of the brand. However I think in 'the end' of the manga should be seen as the end of Kishimoto's day-to-day involvement with the series. It will continue, but under different hands and different guidance than just Kishimoto. (Kishimoto will probably retain some limited creative control...along with receiving his fat royalty check.) 
 
The comment about NH being suggested by someone above him is very telling. The downside of sharing the rights, basically creating by committee, is that Kishimoto would not have had a choice. If they decided NH was best for the brand, then that's how it was going to be.
 
And I still believe, no matter what crazy answers he gives in various interviews, that HInata's usurping of heroine status didn't begin until after RtN was pretty far in the works. If NH is going to be the end pairing, why even have RtN? It's not like they care about smoothing over the other pairings. So RtN wasn't a token movie to make NS fans happy.
 
I think, in the end, Kishimoto stopped caring about the plot and the characters. He left the story with the least possible plot explanations, and he gave the vaguest examples of how the pairings ended up. Then he ended it. I think he knew it was out of his control, and that after him the animators and other illustrators were going to take the story in a very different direction. So why even try. There was simply no resolution for any of them. Not even an attempt to tie in their goals or explain why some pairings happened. Sasuke's surprise love for Sakura is a perfect example. It makes zero sense. 
 
I think it's because Kishimoto no longer cared. And for the same reason he's giving terrible interview after terrible interview. None of them speak of any support for the story, or give you the feeling he cares. It's not like listening to JKR, where you get the feeling the author is invested in their work. After every Kishimoto interview I am left thinking, 'Did he actually read what he was producing?' Because it always feels like he's just a guy from the office who occasionally reads Naruto. Not the guy who actually creates the damn thing.

 

Hey tricksie can you fix my sig?

I try to edit it so the image will show but its not working

[NarutoUzumaki01]

Please avoid that kitten about sex with Hinata, Naruto is not guilty here, as much as Sakura didn't want to end housecleaner.

[Tiller]

Sooo, Kishi didn't just shoot himself in the foot but rather in the head, huh?

 

If nothing else he has no leg below his right knee at this point. lol

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Monster?

I like to see him fight Godzilla. In fact I wonder how he feels about Kishi's kitten?

[Luna]

Please avoid that kitten about sex with Hinata, Naruto is not guilty here, as much as Sakura didn't want to end housecleaner.

TBH, Hinata is not that bad of a character but it's not my type. I find her character ugly and bland. Her eyes kill it for me just like her daughter.

Edited by Luna, 13 December 2014 - 08:12 PM.

[questdrivencollie]

SS fans support violence and abuse against wormen. There is no grey with this. It's only right or wrong. If you support SS, you support violence and abuse against women.

From what I've seen, admittedly not much, the appeal of SS is mostly "I'll love the darkness in your heart away" or something.

I don't see how anyone could realistically support this ship, though. If the manga had gone differently, if they had had any positive development, if Sasuke had ever shown any interest in Sakura more early on....then maybe.

[六道仙人]

what's kinda hard to understant for them that hiretsu-sensei admitted Neji was literally the cupid situation for NH, not for the couple but for giving a sorta philosophical reason behind them?

[Khaleesi]

someone has the interview translated? may I see it?

[luffyq1]

Please avoid that kitten about sex with Hinata, Naruto is not guilty here, as much as Sakura didn't want to end housecleaner.

the only person who's guilty is kishi. his interviews have been nothing but bad for this series.

[LadyGT]

The interviewer should have asked only this question:

"How does it feel to have created a worse love story than Twilight?"

[trang95]

someone has the interview translated? may I see it?

http://trang95.tumbl...kishi-interview