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[LadyGT]

what guilt trip?

The part where Naruto is forced to love Hinata?
Basically Naruto sees all the memories of Hinata through the scarf, most of them are scenes of her getting sad/disappointed because he doesn't notice her so he feels guilty.

[Hanabi]

   

It probably is fake, even if it is real all it pretty much concludes is that karin's personality was meant to be irritating.

I never really got why some people love Gruvia yet hate SK (I mean before Sasuke stabbed her ofcourse)

screw kishi and his poop jokes. for those of you who didn't know, he did some poop jokes on the weekly author notes too (when naruto was still ongoing)

[trang95]

what guilt trip?

aka Genjutsu in which Naruto will see memories of Hinata and begins feeling guilty and falling in love with her

Edited by trang95, 13 December 2014 - 07:34 PM.

[Jio Freed]

 

 
 
It doesn't work that way. The manga publisher and SP both own at least a portion of the rights to the Naruto franchise, so even if Kishimoto no longer had a contract with either of them, he can't legally write anything related to Naruto with another company. Of course we don't know the terms involved in Kishimoto's contract, but for all we know he could have signed over the rights to Naruto fully to his publisher. Which would mean he has no creative control at all, and once the contract has expired he could just be replaced with another writer for the spinoff and he would have no say in it at all. That is if that's actually the case, I don't know if it is.

 

"You think just because you have an idea, that it belongs to you?"
-Obidiah Stane (villain from Iron Man)

[FireFox]

Yep and I can't translate it because I don't even understand the kitten what he means.......

"I created Karin in hopes that my butt disease will get fixed."
Bloody crimson hell! I'm Japanese and I don't understand what he's saying here!

Wait that info is legit   I don't even....    

 

was this things brought up?

spoiler

 

Put it in a spoiler please we don't want to watch anything from this kitten  we have said this so many times so please spoiler next time thanks.

[ramenanmitsu]

One person at tumblr made one point. Not saying she's right but one thing that could have happened is that perhaps the people around him (his work area) made him believe Hinata is the most popular one.

That's EXACTLY what ppl in 2ch are saying. They're saying that SP kept on telling him that Hinata was popular when she never was.

She has the largest numbers of haters in her limited amount of screen time before chapter 698.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 13 December 2014 - 07:37 PM.

[Jio Freed]

 

The part where Naruto is forced to love Hinata?
Basically Naruto sees all the memories of Hinata through the scarf, most of them are scenes of her getting sad/disappointed because he doesn't notice her so he feels guilty.

 

Imagine if Gray fell for Juvia that way lol

[六道仙人]

@Ramenmitsu, @Rikodou

Can you guys elaborate on the part with "his 15 years he suffered because of Sasuke and Sakura"

I don't really get it, and SS fans keep seeing it something es positive...? I don't even know what they are seeing in this statement. Who is "he" in Kishi's statement?

 

i dunno because i don't read it.

[Nar123]

One person at tumblr made one point. Not saying she's right but one thing that could have happened is that perhaps the people around him (his work area) made him believe Hinata is the most popular one.

 

This really could have happened, remeber that thing he said back at 2010? Where he said he would make Sakura more of a heroine from now on? And people always came up to him saying "hinata, hinata,hinata"...

[Jio Freed]

 

That's EXACTLY what ppl in 2ch are saying. They're saying that SP kept on telling him that Hinata was popular.

 

I still stick with my original belief that some hardcore NH fan pulled a Kathy bates from "Misery"


and Kishi was literally forced to change the ending

[六道仙人]

That's EXACTLY what ppl in 2ch are saying. They're saying that SP kept on telling him that Hinata was popular.

 

i think the same. Everyone in WSJ and SP have influenced him so much. Maybe even from Shounen US....remember that famous tweet from SJ US about NH kids?

[Sakura~]

The part where Naruto is forced to love Hinata?
Basically Naruto sees all the memories of Hinata through the scarf, most of them are scenes of her getting sad/disappointed because he doesn't notice her so he feels guilty.

That's just sad.

[LadyGT]

  

Imagine if Gray fell for Juvia that way lol

Gray and juvia don't deserve to be compared to that abomination.

[Nar123]

@Ramenmitsu, @Rikodou

Can you guys elaborate on the part with "his 15 years he suffered because of Sasuke and Sakura"

I don't really get it, and SS fans keep seeing it something es positive...? I don't even know what they are seeing in this statement. Who is "he" in Kishi's statement?

 

Its nothing positive.

-He suffered with sakura because he couldn't draw her in a way in a "beautiful"  way and also tried to deal with the "problems" at her popularity and thanks to his incompetence , didn't had success

 

-He suffered with Sasuke because the character became irritable.

 

its not romantic in any shape or form

Edited by Nar123, 13 December 2014 - 07:41 PM.

[LadyGT]

That's just sad.

Do you want to hear the best part?

Sakura shows up during the guilt trip next to nardo and tells him that he's an idiot for not noticing Hinata. Like in the Christmas carol with the ghosts.

[tricksie]

Hey, Ramen, just one question:

Do you know what he meant when he talked about suffering because of Sakura and Sasuke? Did he elaborate on anything past just being irritated with Sasuke?

Wonder what tricksie thinks of this abomination of an author...

 

All I keep thinking is that after 15 years, Kishimoto must have really begun to hate his story. He just doesn't care. Not in the interviews, not in the manga. Not one character was done right by, except Hinata, and that's only because she got everything without having to lift a finger for it. But he doesn't show any special appreciation for her other than pity. So it's a hollow victory for Hinata.

 

So if Neji died for NH to move forward, then that means that it was about that time he decided to commit to NH as the end pairing. Which would make sense: Hinata's role and the tone of the manga started to change then. This would also put it about the time they were finishing RtN, right? It would make sense the end pairing changed with the decision to extend the manga into a new series. RtN was probably greenlit at a time when NS was still the end pairing. But all that changed afterwards.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Kishi is scum. So is Narudo. Naruto is crying at what Kishi did to his reputation.

[luffyq1]

this monkey gave hinata more relevancy because he thought she was more popular than sakura. the monkey miscalculated.

[Jio Freed]

 

Gray and juvia don't deserve to be compared to that abomination.

 

True there wouldn't be any moments of guilt tripping because any interactions they had were either positive or comic relief

The only time otherwise was the Gruvia special chapter where Juvia made gray a scarf but he was way too depressed and sulky to accept it (being the anniversary day of ur's death) but he eventually walked all the way back where she left it in the snow and decided to wear it

[Atheck]

That's EXACTLY what ppl in 2ch are saying. They're saying that SP kept on telling him that Hinata was popular when she never was.

She has the largest numbers of haters in her limited amount of screen time before chapter 698.

 

We shouldn't be trying to vindicate Kishi here. His admittance of difficulty with handling Sakura throughout these 15 years is proof enough that much of this crap he's spewing is a product of his own mental process.