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[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 
If any 2 or 1 stars and negative reviews on google Japan etc.  being deleted soon after is any indication. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Amen to that and the refusal of refunds once fans learned the truth about the movie.

[TheFirstEvil100]

And yet SP still cant admit that not only did they screw up, but also played favourites. 😞

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

And yet SP still cant admit that not only did they screw up, but also played favourites. 😞

They are just too stubborn to do it.

[Kagomaru]

They are just too stubborn to do it.

They at least won't acknowledge their mistake openly.  The fact that they have tried to bait us back into the fandom with NaruSaku-esque content, whether it pertained to Naruto/Sakura or Boruto/Sarada (which is a discount NaruSaku) is an indication that they know that Hinata is not as popular or profitable as they wished to believe.

[Phantom_999]

Yeah, even if they did it doesn’t change anything. It will make them look worse, it may make us feel better to varying degrees but again, doesn’t change anything. I, for one will not be baited to support this piece of trash again just because I got what I wanted, regardless of whether they own up to their mistakes. I may chuckle a bit and call karma when Boruto bites the dust but I’ve wasted enough of my supporting This now soulless series and the Hinata wankers That ruined it, and I also wasted enough of my time raging at its own stupidity when I could be doing or enjoying something else.

Edited by Phantom_999, 10 January 2022 - 11:51 AM.

[BlueStarSaber]

I hear rumours that some naruto/boruto merchandise has upset some from south koren fans or artists by having some designs based on the taisho era.

Edited by BlueStarSaber, 11 January 2022 - 12:45 AM.

[sushi.]

I hear rumours that some naruto/boruto merchandise has upset some from south koren fans or artists by having some designs based on the taisho era.

Fr? That's dumb. Unless they somehow reenacts colonization plots or whatever. 

[Bail o' Lies]

I hear rumors that some naruto/boruto merchandise has upset some from South Korean fans or artists by having some designs based on the taisho era.

Any leads to confirm or deny these rumors or any extra details? Any examples you could find? Where did you hear these rumors from? 

 

...Can't find anything. What. Do they have them dress up in old imperial military uniforms, old post-meiji revolution samurai outfits, or the old imperial flag in the background.

 

Wait. I know, 'its a role play with the South Koreans depicted as the Branch Clan members and there being beaten up by Boruto and his all his relatives.'

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 11 January 2022 - 10:39 AM.

[sushi.]

Any leads to confirm or deny these rumors or any extra details? Any examples you could find? Where did you hear these rumors from? 

 

...Can't find anything. What. Do they have them dress up in old imperial military uniforms, old post-meiji revolution samurai outfits, or the old imperial flag in the background.

 

Wait. I know, 'its a role play with the South Koreans depicted as the Branch Clan members and there being beaten up by Boruto and his all his relatives.'

In that case I'd get it. 

[BlueStarSaber]

Any leads to confirm or deny these rumors or any extra details? Any examples you could find? Where did you hear these rumors from? 
 
...Can't find anything. What. Do they have them dress up in old imperial military uniforms, old post-meiji revolution samurai outfits, or the old imperial flag in the background.
 
Wait. I know, 'its a role play with the South Koreans depicted as the Branch Clan members and there being beaten up by Boruto and his all his relatives.'

Just did some double checking, was just one narusaku artist from south Korea. Sorry if I made it sound bigger than it seemed.

Who didn't like this merchandise here from that period given its history for south korea and has decided to drop anything naruto related https://twitter.com/...MqmpYAKsIg&s=19

Edited by BlueStarSaber, 11 January 2022 - 01:51 PM.

[Namaenash]

Just did some double checking, was just one narusaku artist from south Korea. Sorry if I made it sound bigger than it seemed.

Who didn't like this merchandise here from that period given its history for south korea and has decided to drop anything naruto related https://twitter.com/...MqmpYAKsIg&s=19

I saw Karin and Shikamaru merchandise on top of the usual Team 7, where's Hinata? /s

Hinata / NH doesn't sell. Only delusional shippers would say otherwise. Remember the flopped merchandise related to The Last?

[Bail o' Lies]

Just did some double checking, was just one narusaku artist from south Korea. Sorry if I made it sound bigger than it seemed.

Who didn't like this merchandise here from that period given its history for south korea and has decided to drop anything naruto related https://twitter.com/...MqmpYAKsIg&s=19

...It is just Meiji-Taisho era clothing. Just because they conquered Korea during that time doesn't mean everything is anti-Korean and pro-Japanese Imperialism. Demon Slayer and Ronin Kenshin are based around that time period so is a lot of other Japanese and even western media. Just because some bad happened during that time doesn't mean you're not allowed to depicted that time period or else you couldn't depict anything from any time period; even the present.

 

We had no context other then Koreans were upset about Naruto-Boruto merchandise. I was asking for more details because we had barely anything to go off of. If it just clothing, then, that's nothing, they been doing that for years for all time periods in various IPs. If it was depicting beating up Koreans then, there is a problem since clearly someone in marketing has gone insane.

 

So, the characters are team 7, Shikamaru (the most prominent secondary character,) and Bolt and Cups from the sequel. Bolt clearly because they have to and Cups because this is probably merchandise from the anime and because of the anime he got a lot of focus because they didn't have Nail for 200 episodes.

 

Also, it is clear that Salad is being side-lined in the anime. They aren't confident enough to go full Clone but they are probably pushing it.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 11 January 2022 - 09:59 PM.

[Bail o' Lies]

I saw Karin and Shikamaru merchandise on top of the usual Team 7, where's Hinata? /s

Hinata / NH doesn't sell. Only delusional shippers would say otherwise. Remember the flopped merchandise related to The Last?

To be fair to that part of the merchandise. That part is the Akatsuki vs team 7 and team Snake/Hawk. So she isn't in that Grouping while Karin is.

 

The taisho era stuff yeah that's damning since like their summer fun last year being team 7, 10, and Zabuza and Haku; there is no reason not to have her other then they know she won't sell. Its also damning that neither Nail or Salad are there as well. Since, it  the old main cast and the most important secondary character (in part due to slowly taking over the role of one of the main cast once she wasn't allowed to be involved as much anymore) 5 in total against half the new cast the sequel main character and his former best friend till the rival showed up; they clearly don't think the new rival and the love interest as a profitable as those two/seven.

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 14 January 2022 - 07:11 PM.

[RulesofNature]

The thing is, South Korea banned Japanese cultural products until around 1998 iirc. Anime, manga, TV shows, books, it was illegal to import them from Japan, in large part due to South Korea's history with the country. Even after the ban was lifted, there are still restrictions in place. If things are considered too Japanese, or seen as too insulting to South Korea (like Heltalia's depiction of the country), then they will still be banned or censored. Samurai often fall victim to this, such as Samurai Sentai Shinkenger being skipped over for this reason, or Mitsurugi being replaced with a character called Arthur in Soul Calibur

 

That and the Japanese refuse to admit to the things they did as Imperial Japan and apologize for it. I mentioned this in the past, but a lot of the people who were in charge of Imperial Japan also were in charge of it post-WWII. People who should have been tried for war crimes and yakuza were put into power, in large by the West to help stop the spread of communism,and because of that their culture can't discredit those individuals. After all, they built modern Japan. This has led to the Japanese being pretty damn ignorant of what they did during those years, instead clinging to a victim narrative of "America made us do things," and leads to the calls of the far right there to reinterpret the constitution and remilitarize.

 

Like, there was that one isekai where the MC is implied to be a reincarnation of a real Japanese prince who committed war crimes in Manchuria, killing 3000 Chinese. The book was picked up, sold, adapted into a manga and was going to be an anime before people outside of Japan caught on and called them out on it. Then the author's racist (because Japanese people can be really racist) tweets against the Chinese was found out, leading to the franchise to get cancelled.

 

So, there is some real baggage here.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

The thing is, South Korea banned Japanese cultural products until around 1998 iirc. Anime, manga, TV shows, books, it was illegal to import them from Japan, in large part due to South Korea's history with the country. Even after the ban was lifted, there are still restrictions in place. If things are considered too Japanese, or seen as too insulting to South Korea (like Heltalia's depiction of the country), then they will still be banned or censored. Samurai often fall victim to this, such as Samurai Sentai Shinkenger being skipped over for this reason, or Mitsurugi being replaced with a character called Arthur in Soul Calibur
 
That and the Japanese refuse to admit to the things they did as Imperial Japan and apologize for it. I mentioned this in the past, but a lot of the people who were in charge of Imperial Japan also were in charge of it post-WWII. People who should have been tried for war crimes and yakuza were put into power, in large by the West to help stop the spread of communism,and because of that their culture can't discredit those individuals. After all, they built modern Japan. This has led to the Japanese being pretty damn ignorant of what they did during those years, instead clinging to a victim narrative of "America made us do things," and leads to the calls of the far right there to reinterpret the constitution and remilitarize.
 
Like, there was that one isekai where the MC is implied to be a reincarnation of a real Japanese prince who committed war crimes in Manchuria, killing 3000 Chinese. The book was picked up, sold, adapted into a manga and was going to be an anime before people outside of Japan caught on and called them out on it. Then the author's racist (because Japanese people can be really racist) tweets against the Chinese was found out, leading to the franchise to get cancelled.
 
So, there is some real baggage here.

Well said, Rules.

[BlueStarSaber]

The thing is, South Korea banned Japanese cultural products until around 1998 iirc. Anime, manga, TV shows, books, it was illegal to import them from Japan, in large part due to South Korea's history with the country. Even after the ban was lifted, there are still restrictions in place. If things are considered too Japanese, or seen as too insulting to South Korea (like Heltalia's depiction of the country), then they will still be banned or censored. Samurai often fall victim to this, such as Samurai Sentai Shinkenger being skipped over for this reason, or Mitsurugi being replaced with a character called Arthur in Soul Calibur
 
That and the Japanese refuse to admit to the things they did as Imperial Japan and apologize for it. I mentioned this in the past, but a lot of the people who were in charge of Imperial Japan also were in charge of it post-WWII. People who should have been tried for war crimes and yakuza were put into power, in large by the West to help stop the spread of communism,and because of that their culture can't discredit those individuals. After all, they built modern Japan. This has led to the Japanese being pretty damn ignorant of what they did during those years, instead clinging to a victim narrative of "America made us do things," and leads to the calls of the far right there to reinterpret the constitution and remilitarize.
 
Like, there was that one isekai where the MC is implied to be a reincarnation of a real Japanese prince who committed war crimes in Manchuria, killing 3000 Chinese. The book was picked up, sold, adapted into a manga and was going to be an anime before people outside of Japan caught on and called them out on it. Then the author's racist (because Japanese people can be really racist) tweets against the Chinese was found out, leading to the franchise to get cancelled.
 
So, there is some real baggage here.

Yeah I have heard much of this from various sources I have found on the Internet. Heck biggest controversy I have heard about South Korea in regards to Japanese anime and manga was attack on titain. When it was revealed by Isayama that the character Dot Pixas's design was based of Akiyama Yoshifuru, an Imperial Japan general who committed war crimes against South Korea and China and he stated he admired him or something.

Which resulted in him receiving death threats from Chinese and Korean fans; there was also an alleged private social media account that the mangaka owned, where he may have said that the Japan occupation of Asian countries was justified or something which probably didn't help matters. Now granted I think sending death threats is going to far regardless of how controversial or bad a story is, but it does so how controversial a manga with or with alleged Japan imperialism can be t other Asian countries.

Heck I hear My Hero Academia I hear nearly got banned in China when the leauge of villains doctor original name was first revealed it was apprantly named after a torture camp against china. Result in the managaka changing the doctor's name and apologising.

Other than that I hear that they don't like the rising sun flag so demon slayer had to change the marking on tanjiro's earrings and one piece had a planed exhibition in South Korea war museum it was cancelled due some of the panels having the rising sun on it.

I have no idea how popular naruto is in South Korea, but it should really be carefull not to alienate fans there with things that could that could upset.

[Bail o' Lies]

Fair enough. But I still think just clothing from that time period isn't that offensive.

 

Though it would be funny if this led to South Korea banning Boruto. Since, South Korea is the (sweet)workshop of the animation world and SP has been using those animation companies for years to animate Naruto-Boruto. If for some reason they couldn't uses those South Korean animation companies anymore and had to do it entirely on their own. Their workload would increase immensely while the quality of the Boruto anime's animation would drop significantly in quality.

[VanitasDS76491]

i got some bad news yesterday my dad passed away 

[totherpage95]

i got some bad news yesterday my dad passed away 

sorry for your loss

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

i got some bad news yesterday my dad passed away 

Oh man, I am so sorry