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[rocci]

@darkradeon
I'm more incline part 3 would happen when kishi introduce kaguya.

[Hiyuusha]

I really don't see the point in him making a part 3. I mean, Naruto is pretty much the strongest person alive alongside Sasuke, and he already has the respect of pretty much everybody. What more is there for Kishi to do except wrap things up? I mean, they already fought the Juubi and "God", who are they going to fight next? Anti-Spirals? 

Edited by Hiyuusha, 29 September 2014 - 01:51 PM.

[Hiraishin]

what's happened to you pepsi? I didn't sound so negative in pm with me...
 
anyway, ramen may be agree with me or not but I see that the infamous line "Sakura only wants to be yours" is really ambiguos (because じゃない, in writing, is really ambiguous. It would be less ambiguos if there a marking question like じゃないか)
 
Sasuke: Did she enjoy herself about love or something?
Sasuke: I have no reason to like her and neither does her too (she doesn't have a reason for liking him too).
Kakashi: There's a reason only when you dislike people!

You can translate this in
Kakashi: Besides, now Sakura... She doesn't want to get together with you!
or
Kakashi: Besides, now Sakura... She does want to get get together with you, isn't?
Kakashi: But it's just that she wants to help you!

To me his sentence is really ambiguos. But let's see if ramen is agreeing with me or not..
Kakashi: Besides now Sakura... She doesn't want to

Ah, I had completely forgotten about the じゃない when I was looking at that line! And yeah, the latter translation would make more sense with his next line, and overall, really. I guess we'll see what ramen's opinion on this is...

[Shadow1275]

I really don't see the point in him making a part 3. I mean, Naruto is pretty much the strongest person alive alongside Sasuke, and he already has the respect of pretty much everybody. What more is there for Kishi to do except wrap things up? I mean, they already fought the Juubi and "God", who are they going to fight next? Anti-Spirals? 

Besides, The five nations set aside their differences and fought together meaning that there will probably be some sort of super peace treaty or United Nations ending the cycle of hate.

[六道仙人]

I would like to have the script in a whole if it's available.

 

I put my version here too...

 

Sakura: The truth is that I'm aware to being unable to do everything, even though I love you...!! Even though I'm thinking of you as this...!!
Sakura: Without even being able to stab (you/each at other) or also to get close...Still at this point... still mixing with fingers and being able to do nothing but to cry... It's really shameful...!
Sakura: But... But Sasuke-kun... Even just a little... Even if there's just a little attachment for me in the corner of you heart... please...
Sakura: Please, don't go far away again! We can stay together for all the time... like we used to do in the olden days...!!
Sasuke: You are really annoying, eh!
Naruto: Ehi, this is too far! There's no need to put a genjutsu on Sakura-chan, ya know!!
Sasuke: At this rate, she would have reached us, and then became only a nuisance.
Kakashi: Sakura.... wanted to save you... all the time...
Sasuke: Did she enjoy herself about love or something?
Sasuke: I have no reason to like her and neither does her too (she doesn't have a reason for liking him too).
Kakashi: There's a reason only when you dislike people!
v1Kakashi: Besides, now Sakura... She doesn't want to get together with you!
v2Kakashi: Besides, now Sakura... She does want to get get together with you, isn't?
Kakashi: But it's just that she wants to help you!
Kakashi: This child had almost been killed by you sometimes... Even now, she is sheding tears by caring of you... It's because she is suffering from her love for you!
Sasuke: ...That's just........ a tie of a failed past...
Naruto: I made a promise... to Sakura-chan long time ago, bring back Sasuke!
Kakashi: Naruto....
Naruto: Sensei! You already know my ninja way, indeed? I'm going!
Kakashi: Yeah, I am relying on you.

[Gravenimage]

^This version makes it more clearer that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are NOT romantic its family friendship love. A Kakashi saying she doesn't want to get together with him is the key to her feelings. I really wish people would stop getting of Sakura's feelings for Sasuke and I wish they would stop seeing her as the 12 year old Sasuke fan girl.

[NarutoIzDaMan]

v1Kakashi: Besides, now Sakura... She doesn't want to get together with you!
v2Kakashi: Besides, now Sakura... She does want to get get together with you, isn't?
Kakashi: But it's just that she wants to help you!
 

This part right here make a HUGE difference in interpreting whether Sakura still has a ROMANTIC or a family/friendship attachment to Sasuke in the present. If this is true then what Kakashi said a few chapters back about Sakura's feelings having been changed makes sense and is consistent with this chapter. Also IF this is true, the MS translators kittened with a lot of people's emotions the last few days.....

[六道仙人]

of course it's romantic... no need to say daisuki if you have platonic feelings

[FireFox]

^This version makes it more clearer that Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are NOT romantic its family friendship love. A Kakashi saying she doesn't want to get together with him is the key to her feelings. I really wish people would stop getting of Sakura's feelings for Sasuke and I wish they would stop seeing her as the 12 year old Sasuke fan girl.

Someone should tell Kishimoto to stop making kitten confusing dialogue  and then maybe just maybe we wont have this  kitten  that has caught up all the Naruto Fandom its his fault for all the hate that Sakura is receiving sign . 

[luffyq1]

of course it's romantic... no need to say daisuki if you have platonic feelings

Thank you.

[MoonDrop04]

4 days of constantly checking up you guys to see if any of have settled down yet from last chapter......and there's STILL some who are worried about this!!!!

Alright I've had a ton of time to think through this chapter again from my last post (and I haven't changed my mind about it since then) and I came to a very surprising conclusion!?!?! Here is a question I want to ask everyone here.....

Has anyone stopped for one second to not think about the SS scandal and to seriously think of how the naruto and Sasuke fight would be portrayed?

If none of you have seriously thought of it I would highly recommended it!!!! ^_^ lol

Edited by MoonDrop04, 29 September 2014 - 03:29 PM.

[Gravenimage]

NarutoFireFoxUzumaki@ its not Kishimoto doing the confusing dialogue, his dialogue is clear as day. Its the translators fault doing an unprofessional job they're no better than Viz's translators.

[ns.Believe.It]

All this original transcript did is confuse me even more than before. Lol.

[六道仙人]

honestly that's how I interpret it...but you know,,, I am not the owner of absolute truth with my translation.

[luffyq1]

Just for one this one chapter, she reverted back to that 12 year old girl by desperately pleading for Sasuke to stay even though there's absolutely nothing she can do to resolve the situation. This was all for the sake of establishing a parallel. Another reason why I hate parallels in this series.

 

lol sad

[ns.Believe.It]

honestly that's how I interpret it...but you know,,, I am not the owner of absolute truth with my translation.

Oh I'm not blaming you  This was something I was expecting.

 

Typical Kishimoto writing. These statements are contradicting each other. There are both positive and negative things here as far as SS is concerned. It can be interpreted multiple ways.

 

NS fans will look at one part and say SS is dead while SS fans look at the other part and say SS prevails. And while the fandoms bicker at each other trying to prove their interpretation is absolute, Kishimoto will sit back, sip some tea/coffee and enjoy the show.  

[NarutoIzDaMan]

of course it's romantic... no need to say daisuki if you have platonic feelings

 

This is exactly the reason why Kishi must explain Sakura's reason for feeling this strongly. The more I think about it it's funny how no one ever questioned WHY Sakura feels so strongly about Sasuke for 692 chapters. It's ironic that Sasuke be the first one to actually bring up the question but you would think logically (which this manga has none so it's not a surprise) someone else along the way would have said something.

 

My best guess is that being that this is indeed a shonen manga (romance not being a priority) Kishi purposely dragged out the obvious elephant in the room till the very end of the manga (which we are currently at right now, at least part 2) - WHY does Sakura love Sasuke so much? We have never been given any true insight from Sakura's POV as to why she feels the way she does about Sasuke unlike with Naruto (first bond, brotherly bond, blah blah, etc. ) which is why we are pretty much guaranteed to finally find out within the next 6-8 chapters.

 

The only saving grace is that there are only 2 months left before the movie comes out so at the very least we are pretty much guranteed some sort of resolution to the pairing nonsense at least for part 2. By the end of November we should have a pretty good idea if NaruSaku will become canon (if it does) the "right way". 

[六道仙人]

Ah, I had completely forgotten about the じゃない when I was looking at that line! And yeah, the latter translation would make more sense with his next line, and overall, really. I guess we'll see what ramen's opinion on this is...

 

I second this anyway... But's it doesnt' bothers a lot to me...

[Diadochi]

of course it's romantic... no need to say daisuki if you have platonic feelings

Just a question, what's the difference between daisuki and aikitteneru ?

[六道仙人]

nothing.... it's just that saying directly aikitteneru is too strong that in ordien japanese culture, it's rarely used by people... They usually say "suki" or "daisuki" but aikitteneru.... it's too much even for them... only couples (especially married) people can use it... Although, it is also used from mothers to sons (like Kushina with Naruto or Kagura with Gaara), etc..

Edited by 六道仙人, 29 September 2014 - 03:41 PM.