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[Gravenimage]

It's not surprise with RTN released and showing so much NS focus in it and the fact that is' Kishi himself the one showing it other fandoms are going to deny the evidence even more now. They can say the movie is not canon and it doesn't mean a thing to the current manga but I differ on that logic. Kishi may have alternate the plot of the story with this movie and it might not follow the canon manga, but as I previously said his intentions are true and right there in the movie. The themes he is trying to project through the movie about family and the strong bond between Naruto and Sakura NO longer the bond of Naruto and Sasuke. I wonder if Kishi wants to show us the message that the strongest bond in the series is Naru/Saku and its no longer Naru/Sasu.

Edited by Gravenimage, 31 July 2012 - 08:56 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

It's not surprise with RTN released and showing so much NS focus in it and the fact that is' Kishi himself the one showing it other fandoms are going to deny the evidence even more now. They can say the movie is not canon and it doesn't mean a thing to the current manga but I differ on that logic. Kishi may have alternate the plot of the story with this movie and it might not follow the canon manga, but as I previously said his intentions are true and right there in the movie. The themes he is trying to project through the movie about family and the strong bond between Naruto and Sakura NO longer the bond of Naruto and Sasuke. I wonder if Kishi wants to show us message that the strongest bond in the series is Naru/Saku and its no longer Naru/Sasu.

that why i have this feeling too, but there's the weird thing if he really wanted to show who's the strongest bond he would drawn naruto sakura and sasuke on the au world fighting together but looks like in the eyes of kishi naruto and sakura bond is stronger than team 7's.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

After all they've done? They deserve it. Let them come over and try to slander us, we need some excitement to liven this place up anyway.






That's funny considering how crazy they went when they saw the movie posters of Sasuke flirting with Sakura.

Well the war is officially over for me. I confirmed thaf NH does not have evidence Stating that Naruto fell out of with Sakura. And they still don't believe Sakura has romantic affection for Naruto. After three days of explaining myself, I've just decided to pull out of there. It would have been better if had more people instead of me, Verilance and RR.

[Verilance]

Well the war is officially over for me. I confirmed thaf NH does not have evidence Stating that Naruto fell out of with Sakura. And they still don't believe Sakura has romantic affection for Naruto. After three days of explaining myself, I've just decided to pull out of there. It would have been better if had more people instead of me, Verilance and RR.

I decided long ago not to argue too much cause the illogical arguments and circular reasoning makes my brain hurt. Still it helps me wake my brain up in the morning

[Gravenimage]

that why i have this feeling too, but there's the weird thing if he really wanted to show who's the strongest bond he would drawn naruto sakura and sasuke on the au world fighting together but looks like in the eyes of kishi naruto and sakura bond is stronger than team 7's.

Exactly if he wanted to show the team seven bond to prove it was stronger than Naru/Sasu or Naru/Saku he will show all members of team seven fighting together in the movie. But no it's Naruto and Sakura, Kishi is showing the strongest bond in the series is Naru/Saku not Naru/Sasu and not team seven. With a strong bond comes a strong love.

Edited by Gravenimage, 31 July 2012 - 08:58 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Well the war is officially over for me. I confirmed thaf NH does not have evidence Stating that Naruto fell out of with Sakura. And they still don't believe Sakura has romantic affection for Naruto. After three days of explaining myself, I've just decided to pull out of there. It would have been better if had more people instead of me, Verilance and RR.

There's only two problems of NS, sakura did not grow up like the others in this war so i think that something will happen with her, only Naruto can finish this war sakura already shows signals that if naruto says "I love you" she will accept gladly.
but since naruto changed, "his expression" hes more confident of himself when sakura see naruto again i think something will happen between the two.

Edited by dovahkiin, 31 July 2012 - 09:04 PM.

[Traci]

Exactly if he wanted to show the team seven bond to prove it was stronger than Naru/Sasu or Naru/Saku he will show all members of team seven fighting together in the movie. But no it's Naruto and Sakura, Kishi is showing the strongest bond in the series is Naru/Saku not Naru/Sasu and not team seven. With a strong bond comes a strong love.

I don't really think he's trying to show that the Naru/Sasu bond is stronger than the Naru/Saku bond in this movie, I think he simply wanted to focus on the Naru/Saku bond to show that it is strong as well.

For me, it's hard to compare the Naru/Saku bond and the Naru/Sasu bond. Naru/Saku is a friendship/romance bond while the Naru/Sasu bond is a rivalry/brother bond.

Even though I don't see it as canon, can this movie be seen as a sort of proof that Naruto still has romantic feelings for Sakura because of author's intent?

There is one person who said, "It's clear as day that Naruto has gotten over Sakura." Obviously that's not true, but all I had to prove that he hasn't is the fact that he hasn't been treating her any differently and his past bonds with other people. Also the fact that if the author hasn't proven that Naruto's feelings has changed, then it's more valid to assume that Naruto's feelings have remained static. I feel that is strong evidence, but nothing concrete like: "So can we go on a date together?" "But we've just been on the longest date eeeever!" "Whhhhhhat?" So cute!

[Branden]

I think your all taking this "Kishimoto" guy too seriously. He is obviously just another bias NS fan.

[kidNinja]

I think your all taking this "Kishimoto" guy too seriously. He is obviously just another bias NS fan.

I see wat you did there.

[redragon88]

I think your all taking this "Kishimoto" guy too seriously. He is obviously just another bias NS fan.

Best post of the day right there.

[Don-kun]

I think your all taking this "Kishimoto" guy too seriously. He is obviously just another bias NS fan.

Post of the month, the best reply I ever read on this forum.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I think your all taking this "Kishimoto" guy too seriously. He is obviously just another bias NS fan.

Lmao

Best post ever. What a great post to end a wonderful month.

[4000TMNT]

If Sakura do get over Sasuke (most likely she will), do you think Sakura might look back at the confession she made to Sasuke and relies how stupid and shallow it was for doing it.

Also, do you think SasuKarin has a chance to be canon (I don't care for this pairing, I'm just asking), because Sasuke & Karin will meet up again and I wonder what is gonna happen between them when they meet. If kishi makes Karin love Sasuke again than I know SasuKarin might have a high possibility to be canon. Why would kishi make Karin give up on Sasuke just to love him again, and not be with him when the manga is over (assuming that Sasuke still alive at the end).

SasuKarin fan club at NF showed me the development that Sasuke & Karin have in the manga that I did not know before (or probably because I did not care at first), and convince me that they might be canon at the end of the series (or be canon before Sasuke dies, if he dies).

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

If Sakura do get over Sasuke (most likely she will), do you think Sakura might look back at the confession she made to Sasuke and relies how stupid and shallow it was for doing it.

Also, do you think SasuKarin has a chance to be canon (I don't care for this pairing, I'm just asking), because Sasuke & Karin will meet up again and I wonder what is gonna happen between them when they meet. If kishi makes Karin love Sasuke again than I know SasuKarin might have a high possibility to be canon. Why would kishi make Karin give up on Sasuke just to love him again, and not be with him when the manga is over (assuming that Sasuke still alive at the end).

SasuKarin fan club at NF showed me the development that Sasuke & Karin have in the manga that I did not know before (or probably because I did not care at first), and convince me that they might be canon at the end of the series (or be canon before Sasuke dies, if he dies).

it would be a shoujo manga i think she would not look back she will just accept if we got flashback would be her moments when she relies on naruto and decide that she will stay at his side and help him.

[catsi563]

If youve seen the SK fan clubs info then youve gotten my reasons for why I think they will end up at the end of the story. Part of Sasukes redemption will be Karin and what he did to her and making up for that.

for Sakura the foundations allready been laid for her and Naruto they just need to walk into the door thats open now for them.

[Verilance]

If youve seen the SK fan clubs info then youve gotten my reasons for why I think they will end up at the end of the story. Part of Sasukes redemption will be Karin and what he did to her and making up for that.

for Sakura the foundations allready been laid for her and Naruto they just need to walk into the door thats open now for them.

Two things have really cemented the possibility of SasuKar in my mind, the fact that she is an Uzumaki, and the last chapter she appeared in, the talk between Suigetsu and Juugo about the pair.

and all that despite I have never been a huge backer

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Two things have really cemented the possibility of SasuKar in my mind, the fact that she is an Uzumaki, and the last chapter she appeared in, the talk between Suigetsu and Juugo about the pair.

and all that despite I have never been a huge backer

thsi will depend on when she meets sasuke again there's a reason for kishi did not make her join juugo and suigetsu, what will be their reaction when they learn that sasuke tried to kill her?

[TouKen4Life3g]

About SK, at first, I thought it was going to end bad as SS; however, after rereading the manga, I got to say, it has 85% chance of happening at the meantime. Reason why 85% is because a couple of reasons:

1) Karin seems to be clicked with Sasuke and don't feel depressing at all with him (before betrayal). She likes to flirt with him and shows that she doesn't hold back at anything. As for Sasuke, he doesn't seem to mind. He just say "Do your mission," or "Your mind changes quick." Sasuke just keep saying no, but no "**** off."

2) Sasuke chose her because she has a special ability and he acknowledged that. He praised the help he gets from her and he even told her, "You saved me, Karin." They do seem like they are a good team. One can fight and strike quick, while other tracks the target for support and heals him. Plus, she is pretty smart.

3) Karin can act tough even in front of Sasuke. I remember her saying, "You suck! You beat Orochimaru didn't you? Hmph!" or something like that. There was another one when she's like "Relax, why don't you." That's a girl that even though she flirts, it's not much as a fangirl flirts. There's a difference.

4) Lastly, this one increased a lot. She's an Uzumaki. Kishi is clearly writing her as a Uzumaki to create a shock to the audience. Sasuke was with an Uzumaki for quite some times. The drama is now that she holds a special character development, yet she was betrayed by Sasuke; therefore, Karin most likely mad at Sasuke. Sasuke needs to fix this problem, especially he was shocked to hear about her being an Uzumaki. Plus, a huge plus, the fact that she's an Uzumaki will make a historical moment if an Uchiha and Uzumaki gets together. It's a symbol of peace. Plus, that's a great start to recreate the clan with something that surpassed the past.

That's my two cents. If SK shows more evidences, I think SS will slowly dying. Then again, it's already on progress of dying.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

About SK, at first, I thought it was going to end bad as SS; however, after rereading the manga, I got to say, it has 85% chance of happening at the meantime. Reason why 85% is because a couple of reasons:

1) Karin seems to be clicked with Sasuke and don't feel depressing at all with him (before betrayal). She likes to flirt with him and shows that she doesn't hold back at anything. As for Sasuke, he doesn't seem to mind. He just say "Do your mission," or "Your mind changes quick." Sasuke just keep saying no, but no "**** off."

2) Sasuke chose her because she has a special ability and he acknowledged that. He praised the help he gets from her and he even told her, "You saved me, Karin." They do seem like they are a good team. One can fight and strike quick, while other tracks the target for support and heals him. Plus, she is pretty smart.

3) Karin can act tough even in front of Sasuke. I remember her saying, "You suck! You beat Orochimaru didn't you? Hmph!" or something like that. There was another one when she's like "Relax, why don't you." That's a girl that even though she flirts, it's not much as a fangirl flirts. There's a difference.

4) Lastly, this one increased a lot. She's an Uzumaki. Kishi is clearly writing her as a Uzumaki to create a shock to the audience. Sasuke was with an Uzumaki for quite some times. The drama is now that she holds a special character development, yet she was betrayed by Sasuke; therefore, Karin most likely mad at Sasuke. Sasuke needs to fix this problem, especially he was shocked to hear about her being an Uzumaki. Plus, a huge plus, the fact that she's an Uzumaki will make a historical moment if an Uchiha and Uzumaki gets together. It's a symbol of peace. Plus, that's a great start to recreate the clan with something that surpassed the past.

That's my two cents. If SK shows more evidences, I think SS will slowly dying. Then again, it's already on progress of dying.

For me SS is pretty much dead since sasuke tried to kill her two times the fact that kishi did not put naruto's there is just to hold the pairing drama.

because if he really loves her or had feelings for her he would hesitate.

sasuke's only bond is with naruto because he seems to care about him, he only listen to naruto .

Edited by dovahkiin, 01 August 2012 - 10:36 PM.

[redragon88]

What makes Karin a better match for Sasuke is that she's the only girl who isn't afraid to be herself around him. Sakura on the other hand acts way too meek when it comes to confronting Sasuke.

It's true that Karin has (or had) a big infatuation for Sasuke, but she also has the back bone to call him out when he does something stupid. I even remember how she scolded him and called him a weakling straight to his face for almost getting himself killed in his fight against Deidara. Now let me ask you all a question: Do any of you think that Sakura could ever have a relationship with Sasuke where she can scold him just like Karin does? I don't think so.

The reason above is why Karin matches much better with Sasuke. Sakura cares about him, but she could never have that blunt honesty with him.