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Posted 28 September 2009 - 04:38 AM

Yeah, that was all to their benefit to let it pass, TO make them look good. Even, with this new Public Health care option they are stalling.


Well, since the president of the United States has no role in the governance of local public schools -- never. It's not the job of the President, or the federal government for that matter, to control public schools. That is a job left to the states (or the people) by the 10th Amendment to the US Constitution. Obama needs to stick to those issues which are, in fact, issues delegated to the federal government.

I find this funny that, it not even in other news sources other than Yahoo,.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 07:54 AM

You know, I actually agree with adding more hours in the school day. What I don't understand is why people complain about things but scoff when someone actually proposes a solution. I always hear parents say that their children are getting lazy, or dumber, and then they're off to Toys R Us to buy the new GTA. Seriously? I think anything that benefits kids (especially the way that America's kids are looking) is realllyyyyyyy needed.

In the article they even SHOW a child who's received extra classes and she even ADMITTED that she had learned a lot more. OH WOW. She must have been indoctrinated! That's the only possible explanation, right? Or maybeee, the teachers are actually being teachers. Or maybeee, the extra hours that she might have spent on Facebook but instead spent on class are actually paying off. Oh well.

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 09:12 PM

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 12:25 AM

QUOTE (Dark @ Sep 28 2009, 02:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know, I actually agree with adding more hours in the school day. What I don't understand is why people complain about things but scoff when someone actually proposes a solution. I always hear parents say that their children are getting lazy, or dumber, and then they're off to Toys R Us to buy the new GTA. Seriously? I think anything that benefits kids (especially the way that America's kids are looking) is realllyyyyyyy needed.

In the article they even SHOW a child who's received extra classes and she even ADMITTED that she had learned a lot more. OH WOW. She must have been indoctrinated! That's the only possible explanation, right? Or maybeee, the teachers are actually being teachers. Or maybeee, the extra hours that she might have spent on Facebook but instead spent on class are actually paying off. Oh well.


I don't think the solution is straightforward as it seems. This paragraph in particular caught my attention:

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Kids in the U.S. spend more hours in school (1,146 instructional hours per year) than do kids in the Asian countries that persistently outscore the U.S. on math and science tests — Singapore (903), Taiwan (1,050), Japan (1,005) and Hong Kong (1,013). That is despite the fact that Taiwan, Japan and Hong Kong have longer school years (190 to 201 days) than does the U.S. (180 days).


U.S. students appear to receive more hours of instruction, but attend fewer days. So, in other words, we get far less per hour of instruction. Simply adding more days or hours seems to be a bit simplistic if that's the case.

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I am not saying he will do this. They, said the same thing about Gore, if I remember correctly. Plus, with Republicans fighting against him with everything, he will not get anything passed. They never will get it pass the parents.. Someone always tries this type of thing, but they never get it passed the Voters.


Republicans aren't his sole problem. Democrats control 59 of 99 Senate Seats (Kennedy's still being vacant) and a majority in the House. If they unify they don't need Republicans for squat. Problem is, they aren't unified and they desire Republican cover if they make the wrong call.

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 04:09 AM

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 01:02 PM

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Posted 30 September 2009 - 01:03 PM

Oh, God.

I remember dreading school back in Taiwan. We had to go to tutoring classes for Saturday, and sometimes on Sunday as well. I think they changed that now, cause before, weekends were still considered education days.

My little cousins are going through the same thing.

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Posted 06 October 2009 - 11:53 PM

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I still don't get how Obama is a Nazi to some people... =_="

Things like Nazism, Communism and the like have become nothing more than buzzwords in America and they simply attach those terms to someone they don't like. I especially find it funny that the far right compares him to Hitler despite the fact Obama won nearly 80% of the JEWISH vote.

Although in my opinion, they call him a Nazi because they're substituting it for another word starting with N, if you get my drift.

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Not even that. While Obama did lift some restrictions as far as travel goes for families, it still doesn't change the fact that we have them completely isolated as far as trade and goods go. Castro and his family have used too hard of a hand on their people, as is the case with most dictators. Ah, just another example of a good idea gone bad because of a person's personal need for power. Over compensating much?


Keep in mind in saying this, I am not advocating dictatorship in any form at all. But while Castro most certainly is a dictator, he is far, far from the worst. While Castro jailed his political opponents, many countries in Central America killed theirs and their families. Again, Castro is still a dictator and I do not support such governments in any form. But quite frankly, if for some out of this world reason I was forced to live in such a country, I'd gladly take Cuba over countries like Saudia Arabia, Zaire (that's what it was called back in my day), Zimbabwe, Guatemala of the 80s, Libya....the list goes on.

And we didn't place an embargo on Cuba because Castro was a dictator; the U.S. has supported many dictatorships in the past, including Saddam Hussein's regime. It was simply because Cuba was pretty much on the same side as Russia during the Cold War, and the embargo has been kept in place for politicians to get Cuban-American votes (that is changing though).

As for the education debacle, it IS much more complex than adding more hours of school. To me, the main problem with our education system is that fewer and fewer young people are willing to learn, and Americans in general seem to be denouncing any thing deemed "intellectual". Young people just want to be celebrities and the like. Many schools in poorer districts also seem to have unacceptablly low standards; my mother works as a substitute teacher, and she's encountered high school "juniors" who can't do simple addition and subtraction. And there's also the growing hatred for science in general; too many resort to their religious texts of choice as a guide for history and how the world works. The only industrialized nation that has more people believe in creationsism over evolution is Turkey, and I heard a quarter of Americans believe the sun revolves around the earth. Even if the president's approach about this is wrong, he's absolutely right that we need to reform our system somehow. It's just that it's also a cultural and economic problem to me.

He does make a point in saying that most of our kids don't work in the fields during the summer, though; summer vacation was created in the first place so that kids could help their families in the farm when output is supposed to be abundant.

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 12:58 AM

Yet for some reason, the Jews in Israel really dislike Obama, since Obama doesn't want any development in the West Bank. For me he is too apologetic, apologizing for the "great satan" which have introduced democracy through the world. Let me tell you something, i lived in Venezuela, after a while, i realized that those that blame other nations for the troubles, instead of actually taking responsibility, don't care about their people, they only care about holding political power, and the United States will always be blamed, for crimes it didn't commit.

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 06:23 AM

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Yet for some reason, the Jews in Israel really dislike Obama, since Obama doesn't want any development in the West Bank. For me he is too apologetic, apologizing for the "great satan" which have introduced democracy through the world. Let me tell you something, i lived in Venezuela, after a while, i realized that those that blame other nations for the troubles, instead of actually taking responsibility, don't care about their people, they only care about holding political power, and the United States will always be blamed, for crimes it didn't commit.

By development I assume you mean settlements. They shouldn't be; they only antagonize the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Even George Bush 1 called for Israel to stop its construction of settlements.

You also have to understand that the ideologies of Jews in America and Israel are quite different. In the U.S., many are quite progressive (my own synagog has criticized some of Israel's policies towards the Palestinians), wheras the Israelis as a whole seem to become more hawkish.

It's also very naive to think the United States has the moral high ground. Do not get me wrong, I love my country, there is no place I would rather be, but America is just like any other country in the sense that it can do both bad and good. While we have installed democracies in Japan and Germany, and inspired other countries to follow our example, like I said we have overthrown democratic governments in the past simply because they didn't do things our way. For example, Iran briefly had a democracy, but when the prime minister nationalized their oil wells, the U.S. and Britain overthrew him and replaced their government with an autocracy favoring us, which in turn was overthrown by the people and replaced with the theocracy we're dealing with now. We also overthrew a truly democratic Guatemala and replaced it with an elite who plunged their country into chaos. So, truthfully, we've only behaved in a manner that suited our interests. But so have many other countries that were once super-powers.

The thing I find annoying about the "too apologetic" argument is what I've highlighted above. Those that use this believe Obama is showing weakness, but it is people who refuse to apologize that are the real ones who are scared and who are afraid. Apologies alone can do so much to fix a situation.

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 10:09 PM

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As for the education debacle, it IS much more complex than adding more hours of school. To me, the main problem with our education system is that fewer and fewer young people are willing to learn, and Americans in general seem to be denouncing any thing deemed "intellectual". Young people just want to be celebrities and the like. Many schools in poorer districts also seem to have unacceptablly low standards; my mother works as a substitute teacher, and she's encountered high school "juniors" who can't do simple addition and subtraction. And there's also the growing hatred for science in general; too many resort to their religious texts of choice as a guide for history and how the world works. The only industrialized nation that has more people believe in creationsism over evolution is Turkey, and I heard a quarter of Americans believe the sun revolves around the earth. Even if the president's approach about this is wrong, he's absolutely right that we need to reform our system somehow. It's just that it's also a cultural and economic problem to me.


The problem isn't that kids these days are getting too lazy, they just need motivation. I mean, as a high schooler, I try to do my best at school, but it's only because of my motivations. High School has already to many hours, if you add any more, you'll be sure to see a teenage rebellion.
Sure facebook and other stuff affect the students, but not entirely. Hell even I have facebook and my GPA is a 90.
In Brazil, for expample, school starts at 7 am and ends at noon. And brazilians aren't dumb. (don't argue with me on this, 'cause I'm brazilian myself!). Apart from causing a rebellion, extending school hours wouldn't be cheap. And what the US doesn't have now is money.
We don't need extra hours! Sure if you're doing poorly at school you should search for help, but adding hours won't do. The person that isn't doing well has to look for help on his/her own account. Other students that are doing well don't need to suffer because of them.

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Posted 09 October 2009 - 02:27 AM

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By development I assume you mean settlements. They shouldn't be; they only antagonize the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Even George Bush 1 called for Israel to stop its construction of settlements.

You also have to understand that the ideologies of Jews in America and Israel are quite different. In the U.S., many are quite progressive (my own synagog has criticized some of Israel's policies towards the Palestinians), wheras the Israelis as a whole seem to become more hawkish.

It's also very naive to think the United States has the moral high ground. Do not get me wrong, I love my country, there is no place I would rather be, but America is just like any other country in the sense that it can do both bad and good. While we have installed democracies in Japan and Germany, and inspired other countries to follow our example, like I said we have overthrown democratic governments in the past simply because they didn't do things our way. For example, Iran briefly had a democracy, but when the prime minister nationalized their oil wells, the U.S. and Britain overthrew him and replaced their government with an autocracy favoring us, which in turn was overthrown by the people and replaced with the theocracy we're dealing with now. We also overthrew a truly democratic Guatemala and replaced it with an elite who plunged their country into chaos. So, truthfully, we've only behaved in a manner that suited our interests. But so have many other countries that were once super-powers.

The thing I find annoying about the "too apologetic" argument is what I've highlighted above. Those that use this believe Obama is showing weakness, but it is people who refuse to apologize that are the real ones who are scared and who are afraid. Apologies alone can do so much to fix a situation.


Of course i can understand that, the US had made some mistakes in the past. But listen i was born in Venezuela, and if there is something that i learned, is that even if the US had made some previous mistakes, that doesn't mean it should be condemn for life. All Hugo Chavez does is blame the United States, all the leaders of Iran do is blame the West for their problems, i guess that shift to the right wing libertarian i had to go through was mostly because i know how Socialism can transform a friendly nation into a hostile one. Plus we have been trying to talk with Iran for more than 30 years, ever since the Carter administration, but Iran always turn it down. Here is a comic strip i find quite funny in the matter of US-Iranian relations.



There is also another thing troubling me about Obama admin, what is with all those Czars, i mean even calling them Czars kinda scares the crap out of me. Now i know, Bush had many Czars as well, but why call them Czars, why not call them his kitchen cabinet, people who he likes to talk politics with, or have a beer with, the word Czars looks and sounds to me like political suicide.

And about the US overthrowing this guys, well that is true, the US have overthrown truly democratic governments. But for me i find that troublesome, because this nations start out with a democracy, and in ten years, it becomes a dictatorship. And is not the people of the United States that do these kind of things, its the CIA, or the AICU, but you own those troubles to progressives, as the Monroe Doctrine was signed under a progressive president, the entrance to the 1st World war was done by a progressive president, Woodrow Wilson, the entrance into the 2nd World war was done by another progressive president FDR, and the 2 Atom bombs were dropped under FDR VP.

I don't mean to be mean or anything, is just that from experience i am careful with politicians who have a silver tongue, that's all.

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Posted 10 October 2009 - 05:59 AM

About the topic of education. I've been educated in two systems and seen another one. When I left my Polish Middle School, I was use to having 8:30am-4:00pm(sometimes later) days few days a week. Yet, when I came to an US high school I suddenly have 8:15am-2:45pm days with only 6 classes per semester (contrasting upto 13 in Poland). With Sciences having only one year each(Bio,Chem,Phys) (Poland on the contrary has 3 years for each of them in Middle School, 80% of what is finally covered in an Honors level course in America in a year is covered already at a Middle school level in Europe). Let me put this this way, in my AP Gov't class,only 2 people out of the 21 people class can pass a US citizenship test, most of them do not see the difference between the House and the Senate. While the AP Calc AB class is mostly seniors, people their age in Poland had done it one year before them.

But it is not the difference in work time that makes the "educational gap" so big. True, America is lagging behind in all standarized test scores, but why then mainly Americans and American firms on top of Fortune lists? One might answer that the unused instruction time is used productively (ASB, Campus Ministry, Sports etc), but lets not kid ourselves, most of teenagers in America spends it in a mystic daze on Venice Beach type areas. Again, I do not believe that raising the amount of intruction hours will be beneficial since some students actually use the time to develop skills never provided by European educational institutions, leadership and life skills.

The true problem that I've seen here that separates makes the true "educational gap" between the US and other Industralised Countries is that American teens don't find it "cool" or rather "beneficial" to being smart at the High School level. As an example, the number of people who were taking 3 Honors level courses in the class of 2010 in their Freshman year at my school was at 25 people. At this moment the level is at 13. Only 2 of those students transferred out and three came in. Most of those who dropped out were at top 10% of their class when they finished 1st Semester of
Freshman year, now they are barely 50%. Most of those who dropped those courses believe that they will just go to a local community college and then transfer out to a reputable college.

But as many American teens have done, they have dropped the most important class of all, a class although taught at any level (AP through Remedial) is hardest but most beneficial at an Honors level, and that class is "Work Ethic". They believe that one morning they will wake up with a work ethic that will grant them a good life. Yet, they fail to see that it is at the High School level when the work ethic is shaped. And that is what is lacking in the American system the most, the lack of emphasis on discipline (what other nation in the world practices such non-sense as "Stressless upbringing") and the lack of work ethic.

The lack of work ethic in this day an age of teens having "senioritis" and complaining that they have to obey rules is truly troubling. More troubling than their inability to count or to write an essay without any "LOL"s or "OMG"s in them.

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 02:29 PM

Do you agree with this writer? That a nuke-free world is a bad idea:

http://news.yahoo.co.../08599192955300

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 02:39 PM

He has a point. If you look at it from his perspective it makes sense. No World Wars have been started since WW2 because of the fear of the other side carpet bombing you with nukes.

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 06:40 PM

I don't agree, I think it a great Idea, but, I also agree with Shadow on his point.

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Posted 11 October 2009 - 06:44 PM

Three letters MAD. Massive Assured Destruction. Without the threat imminent nuclear annihilation Soviet Russia and the US might've went into war during the Cold War, during one of the small proxy wars. In seeing that one bomb might wipe out Moscow/Los Angeles respectably quite possibly deterred warfare on a much larger scale such as WWIII. How ironic it is though, being on the brink of WWIII but never going into it due to the fear of WWIII and the possible destruction coming from it.
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Posted 11 October 2009 - 06:48 PM

QUOTE (Sakura Blossoms @ Oct 11 2009, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Do you agree with this writer? That a nuke-free world is a bad idea:

http://news.yahoo.co.../08599192955300


Seesh we had a nuclear free world before, and people still managed to kill each other. If you believe in Darwinism, you will understand that wars, and geopolitics is actually very natural part of natural selection.

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Posted 15 October 2009 - 09:51 PM

This is a very interesting article, and I'm glad that things seem to be changing for the better happy.gif

http://news.yahoo.co..._politico/28175




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