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[ramenanmitsu]

Actually, my ending theory doesn't have anything to do with either ship camp NS or SS.
 
I really think Sakura believes at this point that NH is a mutual thing. She's been shown witnessing their interactions on many every occasion. With the big eyes and the exclamation points and everything. 
 
I think when it comes to the end it won't be her chosing NS or SS it will be her showing her love for Naruto the way he did for her, but stepping out of the way and letting him go after Hinata, even though it's killing her. Then Naruto will surprise her with a kiss on the forehead. 
 
So I think Kishimoto in the end is going to pull the rug out from under the team seven ship. (And that's the only reason I think NH and SS aren't quite finished yet - they're still needed to heighten suspense.)

Hm? Sakura acknowledged that Naruto has never given up on her all those years. It was reconfirmed with Naruto 'seriously' stating Sakura as his girlfriend in chapter 631. She understands Naruto more than anyone, and for her to suddenly think that he has out-of-characteristically given up on her, faster than it takes time for me to cook ramen, doesn't make sense.

Sakura telling Naruto to 'lie to himself' and go to Hinata is a pretty kitten thing to do. Especially now that she knows just how much he loves her.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 07 May 2014 - 01:34 PM.

[narusaku256]

Not to mention that he was also a witness in the Sakura's confession  and he noticed something in there because he said Sakura You does this mean that he has noticed that Sakura really meant it when she said that she loves Naruto ? Personally i think that yes that's what he meant to say its just like with the Yamato scene . And another thing i noticed is that whenever Sakura sees Sasuke now she's shocked/worry and has that scared expression on her face just like in 631,635 and now in 675 but with Naruto she's different whenever she sees him she has that calm expression on her face like she's at peace when she sees him and is comfortable around him , to me this speaks volumes . And also i would  say this again  what i also find it interesting in this chapter is that Kakashi says for T7 to tell what they like and what they dislike and only the Sakura part of what she disliked is left out i wonder why maybe this will come back latter ?     

YES! So probably by now, if this was to unfold in real life, Kakashi won't fail to mention that Sakura now loves Naruto but since Kishi wants to open that suspense at the end, he just made Sakura's feelings clear. Kakashi's reaction to the confession, if what we are thinking is true then probably Sakura's confession regarding Naruto is also true. This gpes straight in line with 631 girlfriend comment! Man this is all starting to make sense now! Sakura's expression when she sees Sasuke and Naruto, that's something even I've been noticing. Now that you've mentioned it, you are right here too! Her expression is always worried/frightened when she sees/converses with Sasuke. But when she is with Naruto, she is like experiencing freedom, her facial expressions speak a lot. They are not worried and tensed but instead she seems like she is free from all the worries and very cheerful. Again, not mentioning about Sakura's dislikes, you are right there too!

[natalieuciha]

am i the only one annoyed at kakashi only mentioning about sakura's feelings for sasuke in this chapter?i was expecting to see him mention  how strong she has gotten..and what can sakura do  in team 7 now after naruto  has pretty much stolen her unique healer role?i believe with her current chakra  she can prety much stay in the shadows and comment from the sidelines..im very curious what team 7 action we will get to see next chapter...i hope sakura can surprise us with something although i think it will be more a sasuke and naruto action

 

edit:ill just going take back my words for sakura not having chakra cause i remembered naruto can give her tons of chakra now..but still,madara is so out of her league..she doesnt any strong special feats to compete with these guys

Edited by natalieuciha, 07 May 2014 - 02:11 PM.

[Nostradamus]

It's been a while guys, and I gotta say this chapter was pretty interesting. I'm glad that we finally got confirmations that Sakura's feelings towards Sasuke have changed throughout the course of the series. Also the fact that her vendetta to save Sasuke is like Naruto really gives us NS fans a boost towards the finish line. 

 

My Review: 

Good review man.

[Strangelove]

As far as this chapter...I could understand.

 

Naruto has stem cell technology in his hands then...which means he can repair an organ, replace an eye...all of that.

 

 

Uhm Sakura no longer has feelings for Sasuke...yet next page it says she does...what's that a mistranslation on manga panda's part? Was it meant to be put in past tense?

[TyranntX]

NH is dead, SS is dying, and NS is standing taller than a monolith..... can we call checkmate yet?

[tricksie]

Hm? Sakura acknowledged that Naruto has never given up on her all those years. It was reconfirmed with Naruto 'seriously' stating Sakura as his girlfriend in chapter 631. She understands Naruto more than anyone, and for her to suddenly think that he has out-of-characteristically given up on her doesn't make sense.

Sakura telling Naruto to 'lie to himself' and go to Hinata is a pretty shitty thing to do. Especially now that she knows just how much he loves her.

 

You're changing my words. I never said Sakura would ever tell Naruto to go lie to himself. That's crazy.

 

Naruto has always made his feelings clear, and Sakura had always dismissed them. That's why she didn't believe it until Sai basically yelled at her. So yeah, after witnessing the Hinata interactions on the field...sure why not Sakura dismiss his goofy words again. She's done it her whole life.

 

My point is not whether Sakura believes or doesn't believe Naruto, or whether either of their behavior is in character or out of character. My point is that Sakura has witnessed Naruto and Hinata's interaction and her response has been very, very clear. Single panels devoted to her reaction. That has to be for some reason. And the reason, I think, is that there will be a twist in the end where Sakura really believes Naruto has fallen for Hinata. And Sakura in turn has to step into Naruto's shoes (which also shows the depth of her love) and steps out of the way. 

 

I just think Kishi is going to pull some twist at the end that overturns the ships completely. The shipping stuff is going to linger through the battle. It's not going to be completely resolved until the end. And this is one theory on how Kishi could do it.

[rikakim94]

While Kakashi was reminiscing, I just got the feeling like that this might be the prelude to his death. That he's bringing it all full circle for all of them before they go off to battle, a battle which he now may not return from. Especially with those eyes. 

 

The comments were vague enough as to please one camp (NS) while not entirely frustrating the other (SS). Eh, I don't know. I've always thought Sakura's confession was true. And I've pretty much felt SS was dead since, I don't know...he tried to kill her! lol But that's just me.  

 

And it's not over till it's really over — Kishi is perfectly capable of resurrecting fandoms with a few panels of closeness, so a last few ripples wouldn't surprise me either. But for me personally, I felt like SS, for Sakura's part, ended a looong time ago.

 

@ ramenanmistu and Nate - As much as I'm not completely thrilled with Naruto's god-like regenerative abilities, I'm more disappointed that Kakashi reflected on Sakura in terms of only what she said in that "I have a dream" flashback. She's so much more than just a fangirl! But he only touched on her and her feelings for Sasuke. "Sakura, you're a kind girl." *snort* She's a frickin' badass, Kakashi-sensei! It's disappointing that it's a line tailored for the fandom/audience, instead of having Kakashi reflect on the massive amount of personal accomplishments she's made. 

 

Naruto isn't the only one who's surpassed the Hokage. Sakura has too. But the message for her is still focused on her 12yo love life. What a bummer.

 

Yeah im not liking the fact that sakura is just there for the romance drama she did do other stuff to you know!   Like fighting with chiyo, ,training  even if shes not from a clan and learn how to value others than to just be a fangirl. However,what kakashi said felt like it was kinda putting sakura back into a shallow love interest role. I rather have kishi completely get rid of ss as a pairing instead of giving false hope for a ship that really determines sakuras positive accomplishments. Im happy that sakura dosen't see sasuke in a romantic light but im hoping kishi will not do anything regress her character just so he can keep the annoying pairing momentum up for other rival ships. 

 

oh and from what im hearing sakura getting saved meanwhile naruto is able to heal without a problem just really undetermined sakuras role.....  

 

Also nice post as always i agree with what you said tricksie!   

[dejavu]

nf comments made me laugh

They will feed Nardo while Madara isn't looking.. truelabteamwork

 

I was being serious saying that .......................

lol (i go as hello panda there)

 

 

 

 

anyhow is it just me or Naruto has some....feminine hands?

and here i thought he has some manly, warm hands...

yea Hinata why you lie to us??

[Ether]

NH is dead, SS is dying, and NS is standing taller than a monolith..... can we call checkmate yet?

No, not yet. This chapter wasn't really positive for NS so much as it was negative for SS (in a romantic sense, that is). As long as there's a lack of Sakura ---> Naruto scenes (in which they're both aware of it happening), NS isn't in a winning position. This kind of annoys me greatly, because why does NH get to have scenes in the middle of the battlefield (twice, if you count her confession), but what should be the main pairing doesn't?

 

In any other manga NS would be a done deal already, in this one I'm forced to remain skeptical until the end.

 

 

Heya, welcome!

I said don't mind me! =P But thanks.

[rikakim94]

 

You're changing my words. I never said Sakura would ever tell Naruto to go lie to himself. That's crazy.

 

Naruto has always made his feelings clear, and Sakura had always dismissed them. That's why she didn't believe it until Sai basically yelled at her. So yeah, after witnessing the Hinata interactions on the field...sure why not Sakura dismiss his goofy words again. She's done it her whole life.

 

My point is not whether Sakura believes or doesn't believe Naruto, or whether either of their behavior is in character or out of character. My point is that Sakura has witnessed Naruto and Hinata's interaction and her response has been very, very clear. Single panels devoted to her reaction. That has to be for some reason. And the reason, I think, is that there will be a twist in the end where Sakura really believes Naruto has fallen for Hinata. And Sakura in turn has to step into Naruto's shoes (which also shows the depth of her love) and steps out of the way. 

 

I just think Kishi is going to pull some twist at the end that overturns the ships completely. The shipping stuff is going to linger through the battle. It's not going to be completely resolved until the end. And this is one theory on how Kishi could do it.

 

Yup kishi loves to play with his pairings and not make one stand out as a 2 sided love. Im expecting more vagueness thats going to keep the fans debating till the very end. im not interested in it im rather annoyed by it.  

[narusaku256]

What if things go this way!
Naruto: Oh Sakura chan! You are the only one who did get a powerup. Here let me give you some
(Kisses her forehead and then, Sakura's chakra in the seal is restored and her abilities get a boost)
Sakura: Naruto...
Sasuke: ...
Naruto: Uhhh Sasuke one more thing!
Sasuke: What?
Naruto: kitten YOU!!!! Sakura chan is mine now
Sasuke: She was always yours to begin with. You DOBE!

[Otaru]

I'm still angry with what Kishi has done to Sakura, I mean come on Kishi stop messing her up already with Naruto healing that's Sakura job not yours.

 

But she's not JUST a medic. She's also a fighter.

Come on guys so many of you are upset I don't understand.

Most people here wanted Sakura to fight instead of healing. Well here you are !! Kishi closed rapidly Kakashi's eye case with Naruto regenerating power and now they can all go to fight Madara.

 

=)

Edited by Otaru, 07 May 2014 - 01:59 PM.

[Nostradamus]

Two things I want to mention. First of all SasuSaku is not dead. Yes you read that perfectly. And you know why it isn't dead? Because it never alive to begin with. It never actually existed. So you cannot kill something that wasn't alive in the first place.

And secondly what Naruto did, does not make Sakura useless. Healing ≠ Magically creating a eye. It doesn't mean Sakura is not needed because we have Naruto/Jesus there.

Edited by Nostradamus, 07 May 2014 - 02:07 PM.

[FireFox]

YES! So probably by now, if this was to unfold in real life, Kakashi won't fail to mention that Sakura now loves Naruto but since Kishi wants to open that suspense at the end, he just made Sakura's feelings clear. Kakashi's reaction to the confession, if what we are thinking is true then probably Sakura's confession regarding Naruto is also true. This gpes straight in line with 631 girlfriend comment! Man this is all starting to make sense now! Sakura's expression when she sees Sasuke and Naruto, that's something even I've been noticing. Now that you've mentioned it, you are right here too! Her expression is always worried/frightened when she sees/converses with Sasuke. But when she is with Naruto, she is like experiencing freedom, her facial expressions speak a lot. They are not worried and tensed but instead she seems like she is free from all the worries and very cheerful. Again, not mentioning about Sakura's dislikes, you are right there too!

Exactly its all coming to a full circle , but there is also another thing this right here explains that Sakura in the Kage summit wasn't trying to kill Sasuke because "she loves him" (like Sai thought this is why his words were presented as a guess only) but because he was her former teammate her nakama who she cared for because guess what she's a nice girl/person , and yes this means that what Kishi said about her in the confession was true and the part that she was laying was that she didn't care about Sasuke not that she didn't love Naruto , it also kind of confirms about what i have been saying about 540 that she didn't think about Sasuke as the person she loves but as someone she used to "love" .

 

As for Sakura development now i think that in the next chap she's gonna receive a power up from Naruto with Naruto explaining his new power which i don't think its healing .  

[FreakySandra1995]

I just loved this chapter! Team 7 will finally really fight together and SS now lies on his dying bed.

Though it does bug me how SS fans still see it as something positive that she changed her feeling? I mean, it's kinda illogical to think that Kakashi meant that in a sense of "Sasuke means even more from you". After all, all this time Kakashi saw Sakura's and Naruto's relationship grow (Just looking at the hug for example should give it away).

But oh well, If they wish to celebrate their ship sinking x) It's kinda like in some movies when somebody is beeing shot and they are not realising this for the first two seconds and laugh at their killer. :I

[ramenanmitsu]

You're changing my words. I never said Sakura would ever tell Naruto to go lie to himself. That's crazy.
 
Naruto has always made his feelings clear, and Sakura had always dismissed them. That's why she didn't believe it until Sai basically yelled at her. So yeah, after witnessing the Hinata interactions on the field...sure why not Sakura dismiss his goofy words again. She's done it her whole life.
 
My point is not whether Sakura believes or doesn't believe Naruto, or whether either of their behavior is in character or out of character. My point is that Sakura has witnessed Naruto and Hinata's interaction and her response has been very, very clear. Single panels devoted to her reaction. That has to be for some reason. And the reason, I think, is that there will be a twist in the end where Sakura really believes Naruto has fallen for Hinata. And Sakura in turn has to step into Naruto's shoes (which also shows the depth of her love) and steps out of the way. 
 
I just think Kishi is going to pull some twist at the end that overturns the ships completely. The shipping stuff is going to linger through the battle. It's not going to be completely resolved until the end. And this is one theory on how Kishi could do it.

I see what you mean.
When I wrote that, I didn't mean that she was literally going to tell him to lie to himself. My point was that for her to force him to a girl he doesn't like is a very insensitive thing to do when she knows what Naruto feels about her. She has ignored and have been oblivious to Naruto's feelings all her life. And Sai has just told her how much that hurt him. For her to do the same thing by dismissing his 'girlfriend' comment means that she hasn't developed at all. And his 'girlfriend' comment was a comedy moment but Naruto's expressions and words were serious.

So you're saying Kishi is going to bring a whole lot of NH scenes back again to the big picture just to stir up pairing drama? Or am I misunderstanding you again?

I honestly don't see the point. Kishi has slowly developed NS like clearing a mixed up puzzle and putting it back together. NS is becoming more and more clearer with them gaining their moments and the other pairings resolved and diminishing. Bringing back unnecessary pairing drama is like undoing all the gradual development and the resolve he's made. That's kitten writing imo. What's the meaning of all this slow development if some twist can put all of the pairings on equal ground again? Especially with the manga nearly ending, why would he want to focus on pairing drama when it's nearly tied up nicely?

[rikakim94]

No, not yet. This chapter wasn't really positive for NS so much as it was negative for SS (in a romantic sense, that is). As long as there's a lack of Sakura ---> Naruto scenes (in which they're both aware of it happening), NS isn't in a winning position. This kind of annoys me greatly, because why does NH get to have scenes in the middle of the battlefield (twice, if you count her confession), but what should be the main pairing doesn't?

 

In any other manga NS would be a done deal already, in this one I'm forced to remain skeptical until the end.

 

 

I said don't mind me! =P But thanks.

 

It annoys me to i personally think he does this just make ss and nh fans stay until the naruto manga is over. However, while doing so he's kinda ruining the quality of ns. I don't like vagueness i want something more and concrete on ns as a pairing not give high possibility of untended pairing nh and to prove that further you have naruto friendzoning hinata without any problem its not direct but naruto mentioning sakura as girlfriend like without doubting is pretty clear sign that kishi most likely leaning towards ns. Like im starting to ask what was the point of over hyping 615 and the volume if he never intended that said pairing in the first place. I rather have kishi work hard and show naruto and sakura interact like the early part two days i remember sakura crying for naruto when nearly dieing or a possiblity of him dieing whatever happen to those days? I don't know why he's putting more emphasis on hinata  makes it seem like he cares about nh more than ns which totally wrong when the follow up happens.

Edited by rikakim94, 07 May 2014 - 02:16 PM.

[Nate River]

While Kakashi was reminiscing, I just got the feeling like that this might be the prelude to his death. That he's bringing it all full circle for all of them before they go off to battle, a battle which he now may not return from. Especially with those eyes. 
 
The comments were vague enough as to please one camp (NS) while not entirely frustrating the other (SS). Eh, I don't know. I've always thought Sakura's confession was true. And I've pretty much felt SS was dead since, I don't know...he tried to kill her! lol But that's just me.  
 
And it's not over till it's really over — Kishi is perfectly capable of resurrecting fandoms with a few panels of closeness, so a last few ripples wouldn't surprise me either. But for me personally, I felt like SS, for Sakura's part, ended a looong time ago.
 
@ ramenanmistu and Nate - As much as I'm not completely thrilled with Naruto's god-like regenerative abilities, I'm more disappointed that Kakashi reflected on Sakura in terms of only what she said in that "I have a dream" flashback. She's so much more than just a fangirl! But he only touched on her and her feelings for Sasuke. "Sakura, you're a kind girl." *snort* She's a frickin' badass, Kakashi-sensei! It's disappointing that it's a line tailored for the fandom/audience, instead of having Kakashi reflect on the massive amount of personal accomplishments she's made. 
 
Naruto isn't the only one who's surpassed the Hokage. Sakura has too. But the message for her is still focused on her 12yo love life. What a bummer.

Has she? I actually thought he was about to simply state that she has rather than have her do something beyond what Tsunade can do, but he didn't even throw her that bone. I remember thinking with Gai, if Naruto can do that then what happens to Sakura's role? Then we get this. Right in the face.

I'd probably feel more than a tad miffed if I were her.

While I didn't like the overall treatment of Sakura, the thing that offended me most was Obito. It was horrible. The cursed seal. The Uchiha curse. Itachi being manipulated by designated a**hole #1 and Obito by Designated a**hole #2. Kabuto was the same way. Excuse after excuse after excuse.

Sweet merciful crap.

Everyone has a built in mitigation excuse. I can't recall every seeing so much shifting of responsibility and minimization.

I thought Obito was a bad character before, but geez.

It's so hard to take these redemptions seriously when no one has to meaningfully own up to anything.

[narusaku256]

Exactly its all coming to a full circle , but there is also another thing this right here explains that Sakura in the Kage summit wasn't trying to kill Sasuke because "she loves him" (like Sai thought this is why his words were presented as a guess only) but because he was her former teammate her nakama who she cared for because guess what she's a nice girl/person , and yes this means that what Kishi said about her in the confession was true and the part that she was laying was that she didn't care about Sasuke not that she didn't love Naruto , it also kind of confirms about what i have been saying about 540 that she didn't think about Sasuke as the person she loves but as someone she used to "love" .
 
As for Sakura development now i think that in the next chap she's gonna receive a power up from Naruto with Naruto explaining his new power which i don't think its healing .  

Man do we really share our brains? Like think with the same brain? How can your thoughts be so close to mine or vice versa. You can have it your way, my thoughts being close to yours! Ah! Though I generally agree with everything you say, I say that while killing Sasuke she did have feelings for him and it was when he tried to kill her two times, was when her feelings went for a toss and started waning. About 531, as always, agree and share the same opinion as yours! Regarding the power up, though I believe its gonna be like you said, I am still ambiguous about it. But oh well! I just want to see Sakura chan get a power up. And all the more Naruto giving her that, will make things more sweet(for the pairing that is) :)