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[六道仙人]

it isn't out yet.

[redragon88]

In regards to flowing chakra, I admit you're right. But my opinion still stands due to the other points I stated.

Didn't you say that you can come up with what Karin can do or cannot do hypothetically? That's what I thought you meant. That's why I said in regards to Hinata's attacks and feats I am taking them from manga panels. What I meant to say is that I did not create them.

 

I know you didn't create the attacks, but I thought you meant that since such attack existed (as Neji did) that therefore means Hinata can already do it. It seems I misunderstood what you wanted to explain so sorry about that. I imagine she can totally learn it, but until shown we can only speculate.

 

Huh? That doesn't make sense. My explanation of how other genin could easily accomplish the same feat as Karin does not influence my opinion of how I think of Karin's feat in comparison?

And also I have no idea what you're trying to say with Zetsu and the axe. Obviously, you're not a threat. However, if it's Hashirama using the axe, then it will be. (This is what I said in my previous post). He's a Kage, you're a civilian.

 

It's because you said that since other shinobi (not necessarily Kage) can cut wood that means they can do what Karin did. Techniques all differ and no opponent is the same either, so from my perspective I guess you can only know for sure when you see it go down.

 

But as I said, I won't claim that your view is wrong. If I implied that before then my bad.

 

Yes, she does have a merit of healing and sensing chakra. She's useful in her own way. I don't know what does this have to do with battle feats though. Well there are no panels to prove Hinata has the Kaiten, there are no panels to prove Sakura has the Slug Sage Mode, there are no panels to prove that Naruto uses the Hiraishin, there are no panels to prove that Naruto replied to Hinata's confession. Unless proven otherwise, these things don't exist right now. If you're going to say, "I have no proof yet" why did you even bother to quote me in the first place?

 

Because having no proof works on both sides of the equation. I can't prove she's good in a fight, and you can't prove she's zero as you pointed out before.

 

To be honest I don't think she's too good a fighter, at least not in close combat. But on the other hand she's smart, so the least I'll say is that I wouldn't underestimate her (against normal shinobi, not those god-tier ones). That's just me.

 

 

I think you either misread it or I wasn't being clear. Please read where I wrote "main point: The upgrade itself isn't a threat. It's the feats that determine how threatening one is." My opinion in the previous post was that her feats are not enough. So, I am wondering where you got that idea from....

 

Got it, it's just your opinion, it's fine. I think it's an impressive feat since Suigetsu went "Whoa", and he's not the type of guy you'd expect to praise Karin.

 

 

 Please read again. I wrote "Where in my posts to YOU did I mention about Sakura?"

 

Yeah, I didn't read it right, My bad. But it you did mention Sakura in other of your posts. They are stuff you said, but when I pointed it out it's as if I was just inventing stuff, which isn't true. At least that's the impression your post gave me, even if it was unintentional.

 

That made me feel bad.

 

 

You know we can point out to each other who "you're wrong! I'm right!" to each other all night long. But I do not want to waste time so please get to the point. What do you want me to do? Have the same opinions as you? I don't understand what you want at all. I was talking with Google, then you pointed me out so I expressed my opinions to you with no sarcasm, no ill feelings. Then, you started to brush it off saying, "opinions opinions opinions! nothing more, nothing less". To be honest, I thought that was rude because here I was making an effort to explain myself as easily as possible, and here you are trying to dismiss it by trying to ridicule it. Then here you are again constantly using, "but hey~/sarcasm", "I'm right, you're wrong". I only used speculation on you when you used on me(which I felt you were accusing my person instead of the argument itself.) and the other posts I didn't use any sarcasm or say, "I'm right, you're wrong". And now you're trying to attack my person again by saying I'm temper based when I have done nothing of the above. So I don't understand. I cannot make any sense of your actions today. I'm stupid when it comes to reading or understanding real life persons emotions so could you please tell me what do you want from me? I'll hear it and see if there is anything I can do. Right now my honest feeling is confusion.

 

I was at no point using sarcasm. Everything I wrote I meant. "But hey" didn't have any meaning beyond the literal one. I do want you to discuss to your heart's content. You're not right and neither am I, as you said, it's just opinions. If I had an impression of being mad is probably because I thought you were stating your opinion as fact. It seems I misunderstood that about you, so sorry about it.

 

Know that I'm not raging or anything like that, I'm not cursing you under my breath or any of those cliche things. So if you had that impression then take that burden of your mind.

 

I will point out that I speculate on what you say not who you are, concluding otherwise is on you. You, on the other hand, came at me saying that I go accusing everyone that doesn't like Karin, which isn't so given that I only talked to you about it today despite many other people having an opinion about it. That was an attack at my person, and that is called a temper based response.

 

And even if I shouldn't have speculated what you said of Karin that doesn't mean you should lash at me. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Edited by redragon88, 19 April 2014 - 11:39 PM.

[Hiraishin]

it isn't out yet.

Okay, thank you. :) I was just wondering, since it's usually out by now.

[megi]

Wow, totally forgot about Gai's foot! Thanks guys for pointing it out haha. I haven't been paying too close attention to the last few chapters, save for SasuNaru's tattoo stuff. I want. 

 

I'm also curious as to what Obito says to Sakura. I hope she is able to contribute to the battle soon, although I don't know!

[ramenanmitsu]

I know you didn't create the attacks, but I thought you meant that since such attack existed (as Neji did) that therefore means Hinata can already do it. It seems I misunderstood what you wanted to explain so sorry about that. I imagine she can totally learn it, but until shown we can only speculate.

There weren't any panels showing she could do the Juuken flowing attack, so in the end I took that away.
 

It's because you said that since other shinobi (not necessarily Kage) can cut wood that means they can do what Karin did. Techniques all differ and no opponent is the same either, so from my perspective I guess you can only know for sure when you see it go down.
 
But as I said, I won't claim that your view is wrong. If I implied that before then my bad.

I meant that the feats of the technique could be accomplished by others, not the technique itself. Again this is just my opinion based on what I've read in the manga and it's not an actual fact at all.

Because having no proof works on both sides of the equation. I can't prove she's good in a fight, and you can't prove she's zero as you pointed out before.

I guess this is where we have different styles. To me, I've always thought that in a debate, "not showing means not existing until proven otherwise". So for me it was obvious to debate assuming that Sakura doesn't have a Slug Sage Mode, Hinata doesn't have a Kaiten, Naruto didn't reply to Hinata's confession, Karin has no battle experience, since we weren't shown any. I guess people have followed different rules and I can see how you were not convinced with my reasoning because I used a totally different rule to the one you're familiar with.
 

To be honest I don't think she's too good a fighter, at least not in close combat. But on the other hand she's smart, so the least I'll say is that I wouldn't underestimate her (against normal shinobi, not those god-tier ones). That's just me.

 

Got it, it's just your opinion, it's fine. I think it's an impressive feat since Suigetsu went "Whoa", and he's not the type of guy you'd expect to praise Karin.

Yep, it's just my opinion.
 
 

Yeah, I didn't read it right, My bad. But it you did mention Sakura in other of your posts. They are stuff you said, but when I pointed it out it's as if I was just inventing stuff, which isn't true. At least that's the impression your post gave me, even if it was unintentional.

My bad. When I focus on something I totally forget about the other small details. While I was discussing with you my head was 'Hinata Karin Jyuuken Gedou Mazou Hinata Karin taijutsu.......yada yada" so when you said Sakura, I was caught unawares.
 

That made me feel bad.

Nah, I don't mind. You shouldn't mind it either.
 

I was at no point using sarcasm. Everything I wrote I meant. "But hey" didn't have any meaning beyond the literal one. I do want you to discuss to your heart's content. You're not right and neither am I, as you said, it's just opinions. If I had an impression of being mad is probably because I thought you were stating your opinion as fact. It seems I misunderstood that about you, so sorry about it.

When I retread your post, I can see its a misunderstanding on my part regarding "but hey~". You were just generally speaking. I'm sorry for accusing you.

Nah, I'm not smart enough to talk facts. I absolutely have no idea where Kishi is going so the best I can do is speak my opinion.
 

Know that I'm not raging or anything like that, I'm not cursing you under my breath or any of those cliche things. So if you had that impression then take that burden of your mind.

I didn't have that impression. I just felt that you were trying to play me down with the "opinions" comment and weren't taking me seriously. I see that, that is not the case.
 

I will point out that I speculate on what you say not who you are, concluding otherwise is on you.

I agree on this, and it's my feelings as well regardiing what I said.

You, on the other hand, came at me saying that I go accusing everyone that doesn't like Karin, which isn't so given that I only talked to you about it today despite many other people having an opinion about it. That was an attack at my person, and that is called a temper based response.

Actually, as I said earlier that comment was not based on today but the threads of the previous chapters. So just like you, I speculated on what on you said and it wasn't really mindlessly attacking your person either. However, that was a wrong way to go and I should have responded by telling you to stop doing that because I don't like it.
 

And even if I shouldn't have speculated what you said of Karin that doesn't mean you should lash at me. Two wrongs don't make a right.

Agreed.

As I said, I was really only confused but I'm glad that all is cleared up!

[redragon88]

@ramenanmitsu
 
Hey, at least we can always agree on this:
 

Best end

 
That reminds me @LadyGT:
 

I demand...

 

[ramenanmitsu]

So true!!

I remember LadyGT's drawings were so real that they were posted in 2ch. It was a drawing of Sakura and Kushina hovering over Naruto and Minato respectively. What's interesting was that nobody thought it was LadyGT's pictures. People thought that it was actually from the animation team. And hence, many people in that thread became convinced that NarSaku is the end pairing(whether they like it or not) thinking that Kishi must have given the animation team the end pairing in advance. As for me? I was too lazy to correct their assumptions so just enjoyed how the talk unfolded. It was actually quite a famous thread among the Naruto fans in 2ch. Probably Megi knows too.

The influence LadyGT has is scary XD

[redragon88]

So true!!

I remember LadyGT's drawings were so real that they were posted in 2ch. It was a drawing of Sakura and Kushina hovering over Naruto and Minato respectively. What's interesting was that nobody thought it was LadyGT's pictures. People thought that it was actually from the animation team. And hence, many people in that thread became convinced that NarSaku is the end pairing(whether they like it or not) thinking that Kishi must have given the animation team the end pairing in advance. As for me? I was too lazy to correct their assumptions so just enjoyed how the talk unfolded. It was actually quite a famous thread among the Naruto fans in 2ch. Probably Megi knows too.

The influence LadyGT has is scary XD

 

 

Poor 2ch, I can't even...

Edited by redragon88, 20 April 2014 - 02:39 AM.

[LadyGT]

So true!!

I remember LadyGT's drawings were so real that they were posted in 2ch. It was a drawing of Sakura and Kushina hovering over Naruto and Minato respectively. What's interesting was that nobody thought it was LadyGT's pictures. People thought that it was actually from the animation team. And hence, many people in that thread became convinced that NarSaku is the end pairing(whether they like it or not) thinking that Kishi must have given the animation team the end pairing in advance. As for me? I was too lazy to correct their assumptions so just enjoyed how the talk unfolded. It was actually quite a famous thread among the Naruto fans in 2ch. Probably Megi knows too.

The influence LadyGT has is scary XD

Seriously?
That's one of the few fanart that has my name on it.

Edited by LadyGT, 20 April 2014 - 02:55 AM.

[ramenanmitsu]

 
Poor 2ch, I can't even...

We can try an experiment and see how many people gets lured into NS the next round XD

The original site is gone but I found a site with the copy!

http://squallchannel...s/25151446.html

Found a different NS thread. This thread also has LadyGT's picture with the first comment saying, "Congratulations! NaruSaku has been confirmed!"

http://r-2ch.com/t/wcomic/1364402555/

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to face palm 5 mins towards the people of my country.

Seriously?
That's one of the few fanart that has my name on it.

Really? How come no one realized it? That's dumb.


.......come to think of it I didn't realize it either.......

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 20 April 2014 - 03:34 AM.

[Hiraishin]

So true!!

I remember LadyGT's drawings were so real that they were posted in 2ch. It was a drawing of Sakura and Kushina hovering over Naruto and Minato respectively. What's interesting was that nobody thought it was LadyGT's pictures. People thought that it was actually from the animation team. And hence, many people in that thread became convinced that NarSaku is the end pairing(whether they like it or not) thinking that Kishi must have given the animation team the end pairing in advance. As for me? I was too lazy to correct their assumptions so just enjoyed how the talk unfolded. It was actually quite a famous thread among the Naruto fans in 2ch. Probably Megi knows too.

The influence LadyGT has is scary XD

That's crazy! Haha, so did they figure it out?

[ramenanmitsu]

That's crazy! Haha, so did they figure it out?

Unfortunately, there seems to be a constant lack of intelligent people in 2ch.....The dumb ones on the other hand are always overcrowded.

@六道仙人

Have you heard of this statement before? I got the info from the above link I posted. Kishi is saying that Sakura is going to have a big role in the next Sasuke vs Naruto arc, after this war arc and that the story may not finish within two years.
作者がサクラはこの後のサスケ&ナルト編で活躍するってJFで発言してますので・・・
「後2年以内に終わらないかも」ってのもジャンプのインタビューで言ってた。
Since it's just from 2ch, it doesn't have much credence.

Edited by ramenanmitsu, 20 April 2014 - 03:41 AM.

[Gojira]

I'd prefer them to have their final battle right after Madara, this war has been built up for quite some time as being the climax of the series, might as well have the fight that's been hyped up since the beginning at the end of it instead of ending the war and then dragging out a 2-3 year long arc afterwards

[咲耶姫]

Unfortunately, there seems to be a constant lack of intelligent people in 2ch.....The dumb ones on the other hand are always overcrowded.

@六道仙人

Have you heard of this statement before? I got the info from the above link I posted. Kishi is saying that Sakura is going to have a big role in the next Sasuke vs Naruto arc, after this war arc and that the story may not finish within two years.
作者がサクラはこの後のサスケ&ナルト編で活躍するってJFで発言してますので・・・
「後2年以内に終わらないかも」ってのもジャンプのインタビューで言ってた。
Since it's just from 2ch, it doesn't have much credence.

I hope it's true, but I find it weird that this information has not been transmitted earlier, after all, JF was in december and now we're in late in april. So if such a thing had been said by Kishimoto, someone would have already reported it. But I still hope it's true. 

[Chatte]

Unfortunately, there seems to be a constant lack of intelligent people in 2ch.....The dumb ones on the other hand are always overcrowded.

@六道仙人

Have you heard of this statement before? I got the info from the above link I posted. Kishi is saying that Sakura is going to have a big role in the next Sasuke vs Naruto arc, after this war arc and that the story may not finish within two years.
作者がサクラはこの後のサスケ&ナルト編で活躍するってJFで発言してますので・・・
「後2年以内に終わらないかも」ってのもジャンプのインタビューで言ってた。
Since it's just from 2ch, it doesn't have much credence.

That'd be cool but it's kinda a big spoiler that I don't see Kishi giving? They are saying is from JF?

[咲耶姫]

That'd be cool but it's kinda a big spoiler that I don't see Kishi giving? They are saying is from JF?

Yes, the person say that Kishi said this at JF. That's why I find it weird that we didn't hear about it earlier. 

[Chatte]

Yes, the person say that Kishi said this at JF. That's why I find it weird that we didn't hear about it earlier. 

What are the exact words? (just curious) Hmm that is weird... It wouldn't be the first time they twiwt some JF info but at least it has been given out...whereas this...

[LadyGT]

Really? didn't Kishimoto say on the same event that he didn't know if he would be present in the next JF (december 2014) due the most likely end of the series in the following months? 

Edited by LadyGT, 20 April 2014 - 09:30 AM.

[六道仙人]

Unfortunately, there seems to be a constant lack of intelligent people in 2ch.....The dumb ones on the other hand are always overcrowded.

@六道仙人

Have you heard of this statement before? I got the info from the above link I posted. Kishi is saying that Sakura is going to have a big role in the next Sasuke vs Naruto arc, after this war arc and that the story may not finish within two years.
作者がサクラはこの後のサスケ&ナルト編で活躍するってJFで発言してますので・・・
「後2年以内に終わらないかも」ってのもジャンプのインタビューで言ってた。
Since it's just from 2ch, it doesn't have much credence.

 

surely it's a fake... if it was from the latest JF why all this is just came out only now? O.o Besides I never heard a such news.

[narusaku256]

Wait! Can someone tell me what's JF?