Guy, you don't realize what I'm saying...
Remember how Madara became unbound by the edo tensei because he knew the seal? I'm saying that the brothers were given the same effect being shielded by the pots, in essence they are still in there left unbound like madara was but still trapped in there. Obito again threw them in after the edo tensei was released.
And the whole concept of "nothing exists in the pots" are people seriously thinking that madara is going to be beaten by just saying his name, because thats what it comes down too. Remember another chakra mechanic? Chakra replenishes in the users, the brothers are essentially the users of the kurama chakra, it wasn't temporary on them, they were puesdo jinchurki, able to generate much power like naruto all their own without the tailed beasts presence themselves. Just because the tailed beast chakra was removed from Obito it doesn't mean all of it was removed from him considering the brothers were used, essentially they removed all the chakra on the 1-8 tails, but the brothers kurama chakra was still in the gedo mazo when the gedo was keeping obito alive, the ten tails at the moment had only the nine tails chakra after extraction and when madara called it back, they removed the present chakra, but not the brothers supplying the chakra, remember chakra regenerates, if anything it only removed the nessessary amount Obito needed for the ten tails.
I said this long before, you need to look at the past and present. Either Yin Kurama is conveniently saved or the brothers chakra is used. In either case you look at it, both Madara and Black zetsu ended up making a big potential mistake.
Just seriously look at the story for a sec and can you seriously think Madara would be defeated by such an obvious mistake and such an overly easy way? He has knowledge of the sage, ten tails, and his tools, so are we to expect that this fight would turn into trying to get him to say his name or using one other tool the soul rope, to try and get his soul word out? Madara being defeated like this gives a whole literal new meaning to talk no jutsu...
Its just too hard to believe that this pot or gourd are the means of defeating madara by simply their use rather than what they contain.
I'm just going by what the sage said about the return of all the tailed beasts to one and how one would show them what true power is, if kurama is needed for them to become one, isn't the presence of the return of the pots containing the brothers a possible cause to let naruto live through this?
We could easily claim just how kishi wrote the brothers in to allow the ten tails to even appear was an asspull to how we could claim it would be the same if it was the brothers chakra that revives naruto But its just plot devices here and there, black zetsu took that original plan so how can't this other one occur when team guy got the next event thrown on them? Guy is smart, he even worked out how seeing no nine tails chakra, sensing sakura with naruto, and seeing gaara flying, guy acts stupid but he is good at deductive reasoning, they are heading there now or at least intended to before getting a headache from madara.
Look if the pots are really empty or lacking the energy then this occurs:
-Naruto is screwed either way since Yin Kurama would be gone and most likely taken by madara unless obito could fight black zetsu in such a close proximaty with his sharigan.
-Madara is expected to be defeated in such an easy and convinent way on his own fault for making such an obvious mistake
-The moment is just pure comedy, nothing else, no meaning, no purpose.
-It would result in a bigger asspull if Sakura actually DID have chiyo's technique without the former of much hinting resulting in many conflicts to the manga, reducing hinata to a terrible token character, and even then it wouldn't help naruto in his lack of power situation, sage mode isnt going to do crap alone against madara considering even he has nature energy in him now, unlike Obito. Naruto's revival of Yin Kurama or at least his chakra is what we need to get that sage-nine tails chakra mode back so he and sasuke can actually fight, yes it was hard at first but just sage infused naruto and sasuke were able to beat down obito, the same can occur against madara if naruto revives by nine tails energy and if sasuke gets some powerup in returning as well.
This is what it leads too if the pots are really empty, but I wouldn't expect them to be. I mean a simple way to explain the situation of the brothers still in the pot? Think of it like a battery in a remote control. The remote can be the gedo mazo/ ten tails while the batteries are the tailed beasts and the pot with the brothers. How do you deactivate the remote? Obviously you remove the batteries. All the batteries being removed results in less and less power, without max power, obviously the remote cannot work, just like the gedo mazo, it was missing its batteries essentially. But when you remove a battery it doesn't mean you remove all the power, as the batteries themselves supply the power, so you remove power supplied to the remote, but the power is still within the battery. In the case of the 7 tailed beasts, all of them were effectively removed, pulled out entirely. The 8 tails chakra was the only one in there, extracted in full as many have been saying, it was just pure 8 tails energy with no dependent hosts at all. The brothers however, in their case, its like power was extracted, but the battery itself still has juice, the brothers were not removed so they remained as madara essentially gathered them all up, and to this final recent point, basically, think of his acquisition of yang kurama as swapping out the brothers for a better quality or new battery.
It even goes on to say, remember the brothers are edo tensei, even if their chakra was extracted fully, they just regenerate it being undead and having unlimited energy at that. It just makes no sense if they weren't around at the time of the ten tails revival with edo tensei released or after the extraction yet the pot somehow preserved only their power when it instead seals beings and having the power to at max, seal tailed beasts. But the primary source of them all? I doubt it. Thats the main flaw in the theory, how can the pots only preserve the power but not the brothers, as the hosts themselves when the release occured? If the former was true and the brothers vanished then either the ten tails revival never could have occured or it really does only preserve chakra over the beings themselves which would lead to again, either the power is still there to revive naruto, or they are empy and he is screwed. But I doubt its like this, the brothers are most likely in there, because seriously, madara isn't going to be defeated by such an easy mistake and method.
Edited by Inferno180, 14 February 2014 - 02:12 PM.