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[Inferno180]

Yup, pretty much.
Not to mention Tsunade hasn't been on the battlefield as long as Sakura was.

Also add to the fact tsunade was optimal during the fight with Madara, but ran out mid fight only for dan to restore some, then when they were wounded she used even more to summon katsuyu and heal the others while katsuyu had to divide up her own chakra to also heal her, the others, and maintain the summoning so she didn't go away. It's like tsunade was at 100% at the start of the Madara fight and it's only gone down, tsunades been through a lot in the last few hours by all means, its like she was at half capacity when the 5 kage arrived and she spent the rest of her energy with sakura (who by all means had more as she didn't have a preflight and her seal activating mid battle increased her available reserves) so in one way it made sense why tsunade couldn't heal naruto, her energy was going up and down in the last couple battles and events, sakura is nearing the end of her own resource though even with the nine tails shroud still on her, maybe it supplemented her, but I enjoy how sakura is doing everything she can even seemingly hurting herself to exhaustion to try and save naruto,

But all I'm saying is tsunade has been through a lot more in the past few hours, she hasn't been optimal during the fight at the obito, Madara, ten tails sight.

Edited by Inferno180, 22 January 2014 - 01:50 PM.

[ramenanmitsu]

Same could be said for Sakura who had the cloak on.

Does the cloak restore chakra? Because I remember people dying from the god tree due to having the chakra sucked even though the cloak was still on. And this page the shinobi alliiance has being saying they don't have anymore chakra even with the cloak on.

[Inferno180]

Does the cloak restore chakra? Because I remember people dying from the god tree due to having the chakra sucked even though the cloak was still on. And this page the shinobi alliiance has being saying they don't have anymore chakra even with the cloak on.

The tree sucked all chakra from the victims, normal, tailed beast, and katsuyu from them.

Sakura was only grazed so she was fine, shikamaru however got a bigger impact but it didn't latch on to kill him, naruto reactivated the should on him subconiously though.

The shroud by all means can still be up though because of minato, remember he connected his chakra with naruto and then they flying thunder god moved everyone out of the box obito made to try and blow everyone up. Otherwise it could be that it's just not out for everyone but at this point, it's safe to assume everyone has nearly run out of energy. Only some like sakura, gaara, hinata, anyone using an ability would still have their energy,not counting the edo hokage, really it seems only the full team take members are at max, like sugestiu and jugo mostly. Only thing I know is orochimaru may take down spiral zetsu.

Edited by Inferno180, 22 January 2014 - 01:56 PM.

[ramenanmitsu]

The tree sucked all chakra from the victims, normal, tailed beast, and katsuyu from them.
Sakura was only grazed so she was fine, shikamaru however got a bigger impact but it didn't latch on to kill him, naruto reactivated the should on him subconiously though.

Oh I see. But the question still remains. How come the alliance say they have no chakra to use when they have the Kyuubi cloak?

[Nefertieh]

I don't see why some people are surprised there are other people in other ships trying to downplay this chapter. If you have a fandom as big as Naruto, you're going to come across every kind of person you imagine. We're not better than Sakura bashers if we laugh at Hinata, are we? And what if this thread was saved and archived, and one day we want to look at this great celebration of narusaku, only to find three pages straight of "nhers are idiots!"

The last thing I want to see is this thread being closed because people have ignored the mod's warnings.

Ok, that said and done, I don't really understand why Chiyo's life-transfer jutsu is such a popular theory. It seems extremely unlikely for Sakura or Kakashi to die here and now, and the whole life-transfer jutsu feels like lazy writing.

Edited by Nefertieh, 22 January 2014 - 02:02 PM.

[Inferno180]

It's possible a difference exists in that the cloak only magnifies the ability but doesn't add any stock reserves to the users, like it did energize people but didn't make a difference in the internal reserve of the users so for most characters even the fodder, it could be implied they have the shroud to magnify their power by 3 times but not enough internal energy of their own to unleash the chakra. It essentially did energize them but they were still limited.

I guess I can say try to imagine it like a videogame which has a health bar and grants you temporary extensions, kinda like over shields in halo, the shield bar is always your default life but an over shield doubles it but it slowly goes down back to normal regardless of damage so it's a temporary help.

Otherwise remember some things are hard to explain ever since we saw the blind sussano hack. Something's are just deviating from the chakra laws we saw in place before.

[Dkey]

OMG, lol, I don't wanna be a b*tch or anything else man, but that Hinata tripping was funny. Especially if you look at it this way: http://slextrem.tumb...e-so-many-times

Hope Slex is okay with this hehe.

 

ALSO NS BUILD-UP has more moments, yay!

 

the 631 should've included a second fall to the ground

Spiral Zetsu is quickly ascending through the ranks with this chapter. He not only showed mastery over the 5 elements, but it seems like a miniature version of Shinsuusenju was created. It's strong enough to resist the most powerful jutsu that the Kages have to offer and they're being outlasted in a war of attrition. Power, resilience, and versatility. With these recent feats, Zetsu might reach the top 20, maybe even the top 10 if Kishi chooses to elaborate on the Alliance's fight.

 

I wonder if spiral Zetsu was the actual Tobi. Not sure if Tobi had Obito inside of him only to let Zetsu do his silliness. Imagine Zetsu torturing someone.

 

Question:

 

I find Sakura reaction to Naruto's death/dying far different to when in part 1 Sasuke was injured and she broke down in tears etc etc etc. Do you think Sakura is holding back doing the same for Naruto?

 

BTW if anyone could quote me on this with the panels from part 1 im talking about that would be great.. im off to work now and i cant remember which chapter its from.

 

thanks

 

Well back then she didn't had the skills to heal while now she is more focused.

I have to wonder if Tsunade was bluffing.

Not saying that Sakura doesn't have huge chakra reserves, but I have to wonder if Tsunade is purposely a secret NS fan and only said that so Sakura can prove her stuff to Naruto or so Sakura and Naruto could have a real moment.

Really how awesome would that be?

I wondered if she was ever since part 1.

[ramenanmitsu]

It's possible a difference exists in that the cloak only magnifies the ability but doesn't add any stock reserves to the users, like it did energize people but didn't make a difference in the internal reserve of the users so for most characters even the fodder, it could be implied they have the shroud to magnify their power by 3 times but not enough internal energy of their own to unleash the chakra. It essentially did energize them but they were still limited.
I guess I can say try to imagine it like a videogame which has a health bar and grants you temporary extensions, kinda like over shields in halo, the shield bar is always your default life but an over shield doubles it but it slowly goes down back to normal regardless of damage so it's a temporary help.
Otherwise remember some things are hard to explain ever since we saw the blind sussano hack. Something's are just deviating from the chakra laws we saw in place before.

Ah! Thanks for the clarification! I honestly thought Kishi made a mistake drawing those cloaks.

[Turson]

So... it seems that Bee was killded off screen?

[rocci]

I think he is dying or still alive because he is a badass has the tiny litle chakra from 8 tail.

[六道仙人]

you're so in denial... Of course the last panel is a comic relief

[Kster95]

you're so in denial... Of course the last panel is a comic relief

Obviously, Sakura is a total kitten who would never cry for Naruto, only Sasuke. ;)

[BlueStarSaber]

So... it seems that Bee was killded off screen?

 

I have no idea we will probably find out soon.

[Strangelove]

So if 631 killed NaruHina, did this chapter kill SasuSaku?

 

Also what are the chances that Sasuke and Karin get together?

 

 

 

As for myself I think it's a pretty good chance for SasuKarin, even if I'm somewhat annoyed by Karin's behavior I'm still happy for them.

 

 

Not really, I will hold my thoughts until there is no going back...next chapter man...next chapter might be the be all of shipping wars. NH can only hope that Hinata suddenly changes place with Sakura, and Sakura jumps to Sasuke. But can't Hinata just make herself useful. I mean come on Kishi, she might not be that important to you, but to a lot of people...strangely....she is the main heroine...the way she tripped...

[Hanabi]

Obviously, Sakura is a total b*tch who would never cry for Naruto, only Sasuke. ;)

sakura cries=how annoying!

sakura don't cry=how heartless!

[ramenanmitsu]

Some little thoughts.

1. Am I the only one who felt a Kishi x Sasuke vibe this chapter? BOTH Naruto and Sasuke were dying and yet he didn't show any Naruto's inner emotion, which made me a little disappointed.

2. Hinata was so out of place, it should have been better for her character if Kishi didn't include her at all. "Oniisan, please protect Naruto"? I can't be the only one who felt angry to that inner dialogue. Neji has died protecting Hinata, and not only has she totally moved on from it and kept her focus on Naruto, she is now asking for that exact person who died for her to protect Naruto because she can't stand it if Naruto died like Neji did. It looks like she is totally cool when Neji is dead but loses all the cool when it's Naruto. It was Neji who protected her, trained with her, fought with her, and encouraged her. Yet she completely dismisses Neji and gives all the credit to Naruto. Neji doesn't deserve this treatment.

Also it would've been better if she had prayed, "please save Naruto, Sakura" instead of relying on some spirit in the heavens.

[Kster95]

We are all nonchalant about this, but what if kishi decides to kill one off. That would be big.

[rocci]

@ramen

1. naruto already lose his conscious when madara pull kyubi from him.

2. it's her character, cann't be help.

[Darth Krypt]

Did Kishi just said F U to Hinata fans by making her trip? 

[redragon88]

This is gold: