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#281 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 10:52 PM

Where does this argument comes from? Is it what he says at the Kage Summit, where he says they were all tools? I think he does think of them as comrades, at least Karin. He picked her as his favourite, and the right translation clears up the confusion, that it's in fact about her personally and not her abilities. He spent time with them in Orochimaru's hideout, it is said he already "knew her well" and he didn't just cherrypick his new pack. He might have viewed Juugo and Suigetsu as merely tools at first, but it's clear from their fight against KB that he at least warmed up to them over time.

 

I also think Karin was the most important one to him, and it's easier to just talk about her because his relationship with the other two wasn't that expanded upon. He had most respect for her, I saw her on a cover once and the sidenotes said "The Kunoichi Sasuke regards as the strongest". That's pretty cool because Sasuke is hard to impress and she's not a combat type. And the times he was emotionally moved by her. He didn't say it out loud, but his facial expression says it all in my opinion. I think whether he knows it or not, there is something about her that he finds appealing.

 

Maybe he thinks Taka are tools to him because sadly he won't let himself feel to avoid pain, but I think he cares for Taka either consciously or subconsciously. Did I ramble too much?

 

Conclusion would be that he did more for them than he needed to complete his goal. He didn't need to take Karin's side when arguing with Suigetsu, he didn't need to apologize to her. He trusted her with his life, relied on her and let her smack him around, If I were him I would not consider a tool that relevant.

Yeah but was going to finish her off on the summit when she so many times she healed him when he needed the most.

And even Juugo's words he literally let out the idea of being Sasuke's tool because he doesnt view him as his comrade but mostly like someome who can control his murder desires, i think Sasuke cares for them subconsciously which is shown on his fight against the eight tails but i think as long as he's on this dark path he wont acknowledge them on this way i think i may be wrong...

The way he fought with Juugo i had the impression he was using Juugo rather than cooperating with him i guess.

Maybe is just the fact Sasuke is not too soft with them like he was with the former team 7.


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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:04 PM

Think as this. It's once used as tools/weapons, but the more time you spent with them, you grow attach to them and at the same time, may not acknowledge/realize that they are more than just something you need. For Team 7, he found it pointless and just want to get strong for Itachi, but Naruto was there to drive him to push forward but at the same time, feel at home.

So to answer about your feeling with him treating both teams, I see it both differently. One is like a leader (Taka) and the other is part of a group (7). Leader position will have you act like a leader, giving commands and make sure nothing goes wrong.

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Posted 25 October 2013 - 11:42 PM

I reread part of the chapter, from the part where Obito is in the white space, imagining himself in front of the crowd of ninja to the end, and I just realised how corny it is.  :lol:

Regarding Sasuke i have a question to ask.

Does he acknowledge Taka as his comrades or he still think they are tools?

*When he was about to kill Karin he said that she had no use for him anymore.

*Juugo, he said that he will stick up with Sasuke because he can control his murder desires and he doesnt feel bothered by the fact he's being used by Sasuke as a tool.

 

What are you thoughts on this matter?
Does he really acknowledge them as his teammates/comrades?

I don't think he thinks of them as tools anymore, but I don't think he considers them close comrades, either. I think he acknowledges them as teammates, but not anything close to Team 7.


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:11 AM

For me perfect susanoo = Kyubi cloak biju mode.
I believe sasuke will gain rinnegan from eating the fruit or orochimaru provide special hashirama DNA.
And don't worry about chakra, CS lv3 will solve it. And EMS jutsu feed by quality chakra.

And for taka, hmm that's what happen when you have hero and anti hero get the same focus. It's like reading shonen berserk.

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:42 AM

For me perfect susanoo = Kyubi cloak biju mode.
I believe sasuke will gain rinnegan from eating the fruit or orochimaru provide special hashirama DNA.
And don't worry about chakra, CS lv3 will solve it. And EMS jutsu feed by quality chakra.
And for taka, hmm that's what happen when you have hero and anti hero get the same focus. It's like reading shonen berserk.

I like what you said at the end. Well I'll wait to speculate on what's next. First the war, then I'll start predicting.

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 01:51 AM

@ns4life
Thanks :)

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 02:37 PM

That's debatable.

 

But i doubt Naruto would lose the kyuubi after the bond they have now.

 

Which got me thinking...If he absorbs the Bijuu's right now...wouldn't that make him totally OP???


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Posted 26 October 2013 - 02:45 PM

 

Which got me thinking...If he absorbs the Bijuu's right now...wouldn't that make him totally OP???

The way that the kyuubi was showcased, it looks like he alone is stronger than Juubi.


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:05 AM

So tomorrow we should have another chapter, huh? I wonder when the spoilers will come out... I am curious! :fan:


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 10:24 AM

So tomorrow we should have another chapter, huh? I wonder when the spoilers will come out... I am curious! :fan:

 

Maybe later today.



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Posted 28 October 2013 - 11:01 AM

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#292 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 12:54 PM

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For who or for us?


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 01:23 PM

Who knows....


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#294 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 01:36 PM

Who knows....

Noo.............


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 02:12 PM

I'm not following these last 3 posts...


In support of the Sakura we once knew:

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 02:37 PM

Ohhhh you've got me excited about seeing the spoilers now :D


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 02:55 PM

I think if NS = or parallel really happen in this arc, I expect a meltdown from naruto fandom.

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 02:59 PM

Ohhhh you've got me excited about seeing the spoilers now :D

I've never been excited since 631 to be honest...


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Posted 28 October 2013 - 03:03 PM

The possibility of seeing Naruto confirms his feelings for Sakura in the next chapter and doing a parallel with Rin is so high I can't wait. ^^



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Posted 28 October 2013 - 03:05 PM

I hope we dont get trolled that's all.


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