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[harry4e]

Hell Yeah, This is what I was talking about last week, what the heck was Hinata doing acting like the leader when she has the least experience against A+ Class Ninja's from the Konoha 12? It should have been Shikamaru and Sakura who should be taking the lead, and thankfully that's what we got....Seriously Hinata's plan would have gotten everyone of them killed, 'Let's all stand infront of Naruto and become meat shields'? Thank goodness Sakura talked some sense in them all, and showed us that she understands Naruto better than anyone else.

Now where did Minato get a hold of the three pronged Kunai? Did he go to his secret stash before he went to the fight? I wonder what would happen if Minato used that Time Space Barrier Jutsu he used in the flashback to absorb the Juubi's Bijju blast and redirect it so it would hit the Bijju from Above? Would that attack be enough to kill it?

Edit: WTF: 15 pages already?

Edited by harry4e, 15 May 2013 - 03:55 PM.

[rocci]

I think this is a good chapter because while its not full on NS, it was great to see stuff from Sakura saying that they are in the midist of this crisis and they need to do whatever they can, and even if they failed, its better to go down fighting. Its also good just due to the set-up, I mean Minato is literally right there! only 10 or so feet from them! He most likely will turn to see his son's face, and who do you think he will also see with him? Sakura! This is an interaction we thought would never come true but guess what? Minato is right there and will see Sakura with Naruto. Unless Minato just keeps facing forward, and Naruto walks up or something, then that kills the meeting stuff.

Well aside from that, if the jubbi or only the beast bomb was warped away, Naruto has time to talk to Minato very quickly. Still no telling whats happening on the clear view of things because the team 7- edo hokage and taka interaction will start soon, but its only begun with Minato. NS has a very potential point in the start of the next chapter. If Minato even thinks of Kushina looking at Sakura, guess what? Thats a parallel confirmed! We may have an iron binding moment for NS in the next chapter, so its a good reason for some to be excited. Unless kishi pulls a troll or just jumps to another scene then we are stuck waiting for a bit. I mean he could just again leave this as a cliffhanger and jump back to the edo hokage and taka or do something else, maybe even show if they split up. But I'm betting its Naruto-Minato interaction next chapter. Hopefully a bit of Minato-Sakura interaction.

There's no problem even if kishi troll next chapter with whatever scene. Because I believe sakura role really important in this war, indirectly at least.
Theory
Well what if sakura is rin incarnation?

[Ex-psych75]

I think it's safe to say that pretty much everyone in our community enjoyed this chapter including myself.

It won't be long until someone say how Sakura copied Hinata.LOL

[StriderC]

I have no problem with that, but if we have to stoop ourselves to mocking the opposite fandoms, then you can count me out of that "fun". If we win, all I'm going to say is "told you so" and kick back and relax.



The problem is this. The mods want to create a community where we accept all pairings and be tolerant of other pairings. tricksie has said it word-for-word in the council hall. If we want to create a tolerant community towards other pairings, then one of the first things we should do is to not openly mock the other fandoms. If NH fans are mocking us, just walk away and don't let it get to you. If you can resist the urge to mock them back, then you have my utmost respect. If you don't, well, that just proves you still have a long way to go to maturity.

The mods wants us to be the better fandom by not stooping to mocking or name-calling other fandoms. 'Cause that what we all want, right?? to be the better people in the fandom. Look at Gandhi for heaven's sake, the English openly mocked him, and yet he still stood by his beliefs that he would not respond to any sort of childish behavior or violence. Instead he simply, peacefully wishes the best of their health and denounces any sort of violence instigated by his fellow Indians. It's this principle of Gandhi's that made him so revered around the world. (I may be using the wrong figure, but you get my idea)

Same should apply for us. We shouldn't be fighting fire with fire. If they're mocking us, then don't mock them back. Why the hell should we care?? They are they, we're different. Gandhi gained everyone's respect by being a better person than them. Even now, the English who derided him many years ago now openly respect and admire him. Don't we want people (neutral fans or people from different anime/manga fandoms) to remember us the way people remembered what Gandhi was??

Don't we want members here finish the manga and "quit" the fandom here and have a memorable impression the same way people had of Gandhi's??

@Slex: if you want to have a much more enjoyable experience, then you should do so without resorting to mocking the fandoms. Mocking is bashing. That's the way I see it. And you call my criticisms ridiculous?? you're saying, that the fact I called you out on mocking the other fandoms is a ridiculous criticism?? and the fact you twisted Hinata's moment to make our pairing favorable the same way NH fans does with Sakura is a ridiculous, baseless criticism not worth calling out on?? I have now seen everything from this fandom. Thank you *sarcasm*.

I didn't mock anyone and yet you still came at me because YOU felt that what I was saying wasn't to your satisfaction and to be honest, that definitely rubbed me the wrong way.

[PhenixElite]

I have no problem with that, but if we have to stoop ourselves to mocking the opposite fandoms, then you can count me out of that "fun". If we win, all I'm going to say is "told you so" and kick back and relax.



The problem is this. The mods want to create a community where we accept all pairings and be tolerant of other pairings. tricksie has said it word-for-word in the council hall. If we want to create a tolerant community towards other pairings, then one of the first things we should do is to not openly mock the other fandoms. If NH fans are mocking us, just walk away and don't let it get to you. If you can resist the urge to mock them back, then you have my utmost respect. If you don't, well, that just proves you still have a long way to go to maturity.

The mods wants us to be the better fandom by not stooping to mocking or name-calling other fandoms. 'Cause that what we all want, right?? to be the better people in the fandom. Look at Gandhi for heaven's sake, the English openly mocked him, and yet he still stood by his beliefs that he would not respond to any sort of childish behavior or violence. Instead he simply, peacefully wishes the best of their health and denounces any sort of violence instigated by his fellow Indians. It's this principle of Gandhi's that made him so revered around the world. (I may be using the wrong figure, but you get my idea)

Same should apply for us. We shouldn't be fighting fire with fire. If they're mocking us, then don't mock them back. Why the hell should we care?? They are they, we're different. Gandhi gained everyone's respect by being a better person than them. Even now, the English who derided him many years ago now openly respect and admire him. Don't we want people (neutral fans or people from different anime/manga fandoms) to remember us the way people remembered what Gandhi was??

Don't we want members here finish the manga and "quit" the fandom here and have a memorable impression the same way people had of Gandhi's??

@Slex: if you want to have a much more enjoyable experience, then you should do so without resorting to mocking the fandoms. Mocking is bashing. That's the way I see it. And you call my criticisms ridiculous?? you're saying, that the fact I called you out on mocking the other fandoms is a ridiculous criticism?? and the fact you twisted Hinata's moment to make our pairing favorable the same way NH fans does with Sakura is a ridiculous, baseless criticism not worth calling out on?? I have now seen everything from this fandom. Thank you *sarcasm*.

The problem is that if we get a negative chapter you say im done with this manga and if we get a positive chapter you say we shouldnt take it too exited for whats coming.
is there a time you think positive?

[ladyannelise]

i love this chapter
this definitely pulled my love back into this series.. every pages matters,. i love Kakashi here,. im so happy to see Shikamaru using his brains,. Ino was bad ass- i'm stupid for not thinking much about her, her ability is amazing; Sakura's speeh was heroine-like and of course, Minato arriving in the battlefield was awesome.
overall this was a satisying chapter after the previous ones, and im hoping it'll get better as Kishi promised

[rocci]

I think it's safe to say that pretty much everyone in our community enjoyed this chapter including myself.

It won't be long until someone say how Sakura copied Hinata.LOL

Can Hinata copy feeding scene? I think not

[Shadow Wolf]

Alright... so... containing my fan spirit, I want to give an opinion about this chapter (don't hit me guys... I'm also celebrating, but I want to give an overall opinion about the chapter, and for that, I need to take my glasses off for a moment. XD)

-Well, first of all, I'm not sure if to say that a psychological battle is good or not, but I find this one (Kakashi vs. Obito) to be quite interesting. Illusion vs reality... why do I get the feeling that this will be one of the final statements touched in this battle (maybe something about a reality that Obito can never turn into an illusion or something like that)

-OK, so I need a bit of help. Can someone shed me some light on Madara's words? It may be because I just woke up, but I'm having a hard time figuring out what he means: "It's annoying that I have to take everything apart, just now that I was starting to have some fun."
Also, how did he (Madara) see the bijuus inside Naruto when even Obito couldn't see them (wasn't Obito clueless about that in chapter 573)?

-I have not much to say about Sakura. Her speech had a nice tone to it, it encouraged the alliance and projected Naruto's trust towards everyone. There are some things that only a few people can do, and you do not need a power up for that. To me, this was one of them.

-Shikamaru's intelligence once again comes into play. Its actually quite impressive that he can think straight in a war of this scale (I have a hard time calling shots while in a battle in League of Legends, hahahahahaha). I have to wonder a bit why Madara hasn't targeted him yet?

-Sorry about this Ino, but that expression you have when you say "I just will" reminds me a lot of Inner Sakura. Well, it makes sense that some of our quirks are product of our friends, though XD
Still, once again, very impressive to be able to pull out a global wireless communication. :O

-OK, so this can be a bit repetitive in some mangas, but I actually like how the scenes between the battlefield and the psychological battle switch accordingly to the speeches. This could actually be a good anime episode if done well.

-And finally... Minato saves the day. Well, I have mixed feelings about Naruto expecting him, but there are actually quite a few ways that he could sense Minato, including his emotion sensor "thingy", Kurama's chakra sensor "thingy" (recalling the brothers with his chakra), and well.. it may be a matter of seconds, but the realization of the shape of the kunai is enough to make him realize who just helped. Plus people have already been revived from the dead, so.. yeah.

Overall, I have to say that this is one of the best chapters so far. Just seeing how everyone else has reacted (most, if not all of you, have a positive feedback about it in one way or another) basically confirms this. And well, I wish I could thank Kishi right now. I don't care if we get trolled next chapter (I hope we don't, though), but I think the community needed to see a chapter like this one.

....and... putting my glasses back on... I'll just summarize my feeling on this chapter with a bit of help from one of my favorite actors: Jim Carrey!

[Codus N]

My favorite part of the chapter is Obito and Kakashi. The dialogue suffers from some of the same stuff as before where he tries to sound deep, but to me...just doesn't make it. It's not bad, but it could be better. That said, I love that Kakashi is essentially speaking to him as if he is five and throwing his own words in his face.

Naruto always appeared to talk past Obito and I was always disappointed in their conversations. This is signfiicantly better.

As for Sakura: I enjoyed her interaction with Naruto and her speech. I enjoyed that, at least for a moment, she was more than window dressing and did something before just disappearing. I worry people are reading too much into this as a pairing thing because it really isn't to me. Nevertheless, it's enjoyable for what it is (a nice NaruSaku and Sakura interaction) and I'm content to leave it at that.

Minato's appearance is a mixed bag. I agree with others that this probably means Sasuke is nearby. The good part is that it probably means that Sakura won't fade away again. I just think the fandom won't like how she reacts. I don't think 540 was an isolated incident. However, for me all I as ask for is plot relevance that doesn't stomp on the story line. I'll worry about pairings after she does stuff because up until now it had been too long since she did stuff.

However, I do worry about the Kages appearance. Their involvement doesn't sit well with me, but I want to see how it plays out before I decide if there is anything to my concern.

This. Very much. And the best part is (Obito-Kakashi), it has minimal involvement with Naruto. It's all about Kakashi. And Kishi is finally paying Kakashi his debts after 5 years of saying Kakashi will have an arc focused on him. Now all we have to do is wait for the closure. The last mile for his development.

I have the same concern with you that people may be reading too much into things. The way I see it, next chapter will focus more on the father-son bond instead of a NS moment like everyone's expecting/thinking.

Now where did Minato get a hold of the three pronged Kunai? Did he go to his secret stash before he went to the fight? I wonder what would happen if Minato used that Time Space Barrier Jutsu he used in the flashback to absorb the Juubi's Bijju blast and redirect it so it would hit the Bijju from Above? Would that attack be enough to kill it?

The man is about as crazy-prepared as Batman & Shika combined, it wouldn't be surprising if he had more safehouses around Konoha/Fire country than the one we saw in Kushina's flashback.

Minato could teleport the Bijuudama upwards and let it fall on top of the Juubi, but the alliance is there, remember?? if that happened, it would've killed everybody there caught in the blast radius.

[Slextrem]

@Slex: if you want to have a much more enjoyable experience, then you should do so without resorting to mocking the fandoms. Mocking is bashing. That's the way I see it. And you call my criticisms ridiculous?? you're saying, that the fact I called you out on mocking the other fandoms is a ridiculous criticism?? and the fact you twisted Hinata's moment to make our pairing favorable the same way NH fans does with Sakura is a ridiculous, baseless criticism not worth calling out on?? I have now seen everything from this fandom. Thank you *sarcasm*.

1) I'm not mocking a fandom. I made a lighthearted comparison of the speeches between both girls that was not meant to be taken seriously. The point of it being that, while Hinata did provide a speech to Naruto and helped motivate him, she also took some steps back with her comment about how big his hand is. She fell back on Naruto after telling him to rely on his friends.

In comparison, we have Sakura telling everyone that they should not be relying on Naruto. They've misinterpreted his intentions, and continued to rely on him to save them, when they should be fighting to their fullest extent to help. She did not rely on Naruto, and that is the comparison that's being made. Yeah, I cropped Hinata's speech to get that point across, but again, it wasn't meant to be this super serious pairing argument about "how much better Sakura's speech was than Hinata's" in order to make NaruSaku look better. You're making a mountain out of a molehill.

2) Your criticisms are ridiculous because you don't just criticize the chapters, or the characters, or the series. You criticize anyone that doesn't agree with you. Not only do you make a big deal out of nothing constantly, you also do everything you can to make other people look bad, and for some reason, you try to direct people about what they should or should not be saying, as if you have some godly right over the rest of us. Enough of that, man. I told you to stop replying to me. If you don't like what I have to say, scroll along.

Thank you.

[Codus N]

I didn't mock anyone and yet you still came at me because YOU felt that what I was saying wasn't to your satisfaction and to be honest, that definitely rubbed me the wrong way.

I did not. I was responding to Slex. NOT YOU. The mods hold us all to a certain standard code of conduct. One of those is to NOT MOCK OR BASH the other fandoms. And as the mods expect us to abide by the conducts they have placed, then that includes all of us. Including Slex, you and me and every goddamn members on this forum INCLUDING THE MODS

[Phantom_999]

*sigh*

Picking out a part of Hinata's speech to make her purposely look bad against Sakura... does anybody else see the double standard here?? I do. It's just like the time Sakura confessed where Naruto's saying "I hate people who lie to themselves!!" as proof NS is dead. Or other times where people picked out Sakura's words to make her look bad. Like the "that fool is in love with me, so I'll do it" line as to validate Sakura being a manipulative b*tch.

It just makes me facepalm BOTH FANDOMS.

I understand but that's how pairing wars go. Can't help it sometimes. But if you're uninterested in pairing wars this stuff should not bother you much. That said it is a valid point to not mock other fandoms because if we were on the receiving end many of us would not act so smug, it is true. I see your point Codus, truly.

how ss fans did see this chapter

Oh YEAH! Sasuke dressing like Minato!! and USES Minato's Kunai!! How could I forget that!!!!!?????

Edited by Phantom_999, 15 May 2013 - 04:18 PM.

[六道仙人]

how ss fans did see this chapter

[Atheck]

how ss fans did see this chapter

That's one of the most detestable creations I've ever had the displeasure of looking at.

Edit: I apologize if it was you who created that but it's just bad. The implications from those edited panels... I shudder to think if that actually came to be.

Edited by Atheck, 15 May 2013 - 04:20 PM.

[StriderC]

I did not. I was responding to Slex. NOT YOU. The mods hold us all to a certain standard code of conduct. One of those is to NOT MOCK OR BASH the other fandoms. And as the mods expect us to abide by the conducts they have placed, then that includes all of us. Including Slex, you and me and every goddamn members on this forum INCLUDING THE MODS

Well that doesn't change the fact that you felt that I was being "too happy" and not weighing the possibilities in the chapter, and you basically tried to notify me on how to write a comment. I mean, really dude? You kept saying I was expecting things to happen when that wasn't the case. It seemed as though you were knocking me off my all time high or anyone who's overly happy about what has happened in this chapter.

[HuntTheWill]

A very nice chapter overall. It was great to see Sakura inspire the troops as well as heal Naruto. I can only hope that in the upcoming chapters Minato will compare Naruto's and Sakura's relationship to his and Kushina's. Some teasing about their relationship from Minato would be a bonus.

If Sasuke enters the battle soon, would this be him being the "hero" coming into the fray at the last moment, like at his match in theChūnin Exams? I hope not, I don't want to be irritated after this uplifting chapter.

[Slextrem]

I did not. I was responding to Slex. NOT YOU. The mods hold us all to a certain standard code of conduct. One of those is to NOT MOCK OR BASH the other fandoms. And as the mods expect us to abide by the conducts they have placed, then that includes all of us. Including Slex, you and me and every goddamn members on this forum INCLUDING THE MODS

And I never broke any rules. Tell me where I bashed a fandom, please. I'll even get my comment for you to make it easier:

Sakura is back! She's finally back! Holy crap, I missed her so much.

Of course, we've had panels of her before, but *this* is the Sakura that I was missing.

I love how, again, she proves that she understands Naruto the best, while everyone else was taking him for granted. I'm sure there are fans that are still excited over 615, but what do you guys think is better?

"Naruto-kun's hand is big, strong, and makes me feel safe..."

vs

"We can't hesitate now after all that's happened...! Naruto is doing everything he can! It was clear from his words! ...He's making us realize that he considers all of us his comrades! I'm going to make Naruto have a full recovery! Everyone must do what's in their power!"




Kakashi was out there making me proud too! Show that trash the disposal truck, Kakashi!

Where's the bashing, Codus? When I asked which the people here thought was better? When I quoted the manga? When I showed enjoyment of the chapter?

You have no argument. Move along.

P.S. I love how quick you are to get on me for "mocking a fandom", but this doesn't bother you:

how ss fans did see this chapter

What was that about double-standards, Codus?

Edited by Slextrem, 15 May 2013 - 04:24 PM.

[rocci]

I predict next volume cover about team 7 & team minato.

[六道仙人]

That's one of the most detestable creations I've ever had the displeasure of looking at.

Edit: I apologize if it was you who created that but it's just bad. The implications from those edited panels... I shudder to think if that actually came to be.

Come on, I made that just for fun

Since most of all SS/NH fans are in denial for this chapter O_O

One of their statements which bothered me most is "She's just copying Hinata. That whore." O.o

Edited by 六道仙人, 15 May 2013 - 04:25 PM.

[StriderC]

Come on, I made that just for fun

Since most of all SS/NH fans are in denial for this chapter O_O

One of their statement which bothered me most is "She's just copying Hinata. That whore." O.o

LOL Their message was completely different. The delivery was completely different, and who they were talking to was completely different... And yet, she's supposedly copying... And even if she were, what the hell is Hinata doing? She copies Narutos ninja way, but oops! I forgotttt! That's legitimate, and an awesome thing eh?