You sounded smart to me lol

Posted 09 January 2015 - 11:41 PM
You sounded smart to me lol
Joui Four
Posted 10 January 2015 - 04:54 AM
So you are now reviewing, FT, Bleach, TG (both manga and anime), and Boku no Hero, right? That's your four series I guess.
AoT
Well 5 series if we're counting Attack on Titan as well, but yeah basically.
THAT'S WHAT HEROES DO, THEY SAVE PEOPLE!!
Posted 10 January 2015 - 05:42 AM
The King is more powerful then we are being led on. A few things are obvious at this point that should be illuminated upon.
1. At first it was hinted at that the elite of Europe ran away from the titans (possibly across the ocean to America) hence the background images we get in every volume. Click to see it.
1 A. From this chapter we know that isn't true. Instead of the survivors being made up of the elites of Europe, what they are is mostly made up of a hand picked people who can be controlled by the power that resides in the king's family line. The only "divergent" to use the phrase brought up by trang was hinting at, are the families who were in support of the king (The king's right hand men), and some "Asians" who we assume discovered the "walled city" but came from the pacific. This is important later of course.
2. It was stated multiple times that humanity built the walls. Of course at the time most simply believed that the elite used their power and influence to build the walled city, as the rest of humanity died from extinction buying them time to finish their product across the ocean. A cult even sprang up around them, having them be declared as "God's gifts" to mankind in their time of need. That isn't that surprising honestly in a post apocalyptic setting new age religious groups are often found. Click to see it.
2 A. Although we've known for awhile that the walls weren't "built" by humanity as previously hinted at, but are instead constructed by colossus titans who are using a hardening technique. What is hinted at in the chapter though is that "humanity" built the walls... in the sense that the royal family built them in order to contain the people that they could control behind them. In other words the original King/royal family took a group of people that he knew he could control, built up a huge barrier, placed said people in there pen and started to create his "perfect society".
3. The walls are there to protect the people from the evils of the titans.
3 A. There is no doubt that the Titans are a threat. As we have learned they essentially are a terrible biological weapon that turn individual people into mindless monstrous slaves, who are essentially programmed to eat their fellow man in order to regain their humanity. Although it's been shown that the titans may have a subconscious understanding of their former self (the servant who bowed to Ilse, believing she was his Princess, Yomiru. And of course more tragically Conny's mother who still welcomes her baby boy home even after she's been transformed into a Titan) they ultimately don't have any control of the matter. With the servant and of course Ymir what we learn is that all of humanity wasn't destroyed 100 years ago. In fact Ymir had been a titan for 70 years also hints that there was structured civilization outside the city walls even after mankind's supposed "extinction". This is highlighted even more so with the other Titan Shifters who all come from the outside world beyond the wall. Meaning that even if the Titans themselves are the main threat to humanity, that humanity itself hasn't been completely wiped out outside the safety of the walls.
So are the walls truly there to just keep the titian's out? Or is this a secondary function? Perhaps the main function of the walls is to keep the "hand picked" people in, where the royal family can control them easier.
Again from the opening narration: " Home was a pen. Humanity, cattle."
4. The elites are all with the King. Their loyalty is completely invested in the royal bloodline, and their faith in them is because the Royal Family is humanities best chance to destroy the Titans.
4 A. We now know this is bullsh**. The elites are there because their families have always supported the ideals of the Royal Family, and the King's plans for a "peaceful" society. In fact the elite families are the few who are not controlled by King. Not only that the King can not control them, meaning they are a huge threat to them when they won't play ball. Two families have chosen not to play ball. The Ackerman Family, and one of the Asian's. This puts many things into focus.
4 A1: We now know the reason that elites were paying top dollars for pure blooded "Asians". Although it was hinted at that they were sold into slavery because of their exotic nature (which maybe their sex appeal was a secondary plus), but now we are getting hints that Mikasa's mother was killed because she is from this "rebel" family. Therefor she is a threat to the monarchy. Which also explains why Mikasa has so much more talent then the other people. Mikasa can use her fullest efforts in order to fight, she has no built in mental controls connected to her. It also explains how Mikasa's mother and father likely meet and feel in love. They both were outcast of elite families who rejected the utopian dreams of the mad Kings. Mikasa believed it was because of her race that her Mother was discriminated against... now it seems more likely that it was because her family became disillusioned with what the Royal Family was doing that she and her family was persecuted by the state.
4 A 2. Obviously this lack of any mental controls also hints to why Kenny is such a tough SOB, and may also hint to why Levi is a tough SOB. He maybe related to Kenny. Right now I'm guess Kenny is really Levi's uncle, and Levi is the baby that Kenny was talking about in this chapter. In other words Levi is the child born from Kenny's sister's (her name is Kuciel I guess) prostitute lifestyle. This fact is also why Kenny raised Levi, despite being a harden murder by then. Kenny felt compelled to take care of his sister's child.
4 A 3. It also explains why Levi and Mikasa are so damn powerful compared to other humans. Without any subconscious controls holding them back, they can work towards their full potential. They may even unknowingly be related at this point. As well as: This
I wonder what Kenny is talking about when he speaks of a "branch family" in the shiganshina district. Curiouser and curiouser, but the pieces are begin to fall into place.
Such a great post! I'd like to take a break from all the ranting and defending Historia's and Eren's actions in this recent chapter. It was bound to become a controversial chapter in the fandom anyways. So theories are a nice change to what I am hearing lately about AoT.
From where is this woldmap in your first link? It looks like humanity ran away from the Titans by seeking hope in the Oceans and another continent.
Assuming the king does know how to alter peoples' memories, I'd like to know how the hell he did it... I mean, Rod and Historia simply placed their hands on Eren while he was chained up and allowed Eren to relieve his father's memories.
Btw, do you think that there is something special about the Jaegebloodline? Also, how the heck did he get his hands on that serum?
Was the priest who died then also a secret follower/supporter of the king?
Mikasa and Levi have it in their blood! What in the world does that make Mikasa then if she carries the blood of both unaffected clans?
Well 5 series if we're counting Attack on Titan as well, but yeah basically.
AoT
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Posted 10 January 2015 - 06:57 AM
AoT
THAT'S WHAT HEROES DO, THEY SAVE PEOPLE!!
Posted 10 January 2015 - 03:30 PM
AoT
Edited by trang95, 10 January 2015 - 03:32 PM.
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Posted 10 January 2015 - 03:33 PM
Mikasa is my favorite character of the series <3Oh no, I meant Mikasa and Levi moments themselves, they barely seem to interact with Historia besides that drama that happened between them lol
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Posted 10 January 2015 - 04:24 PM
AoT
THAT'S WHAT HEROES DO, THEY SAVE PEOPLE!!
Posted 10 January 2015 - 08:16 PM
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I haven't caught up with AoT yet, but even so I believe that I think the anime is better. Somehow the execution of the 3d maneuver gear made everything twice as exciting.
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Posted 11 January 2015 - 04:54 AM
AoT
THAT'S WHAT HEROES DO, THEY SAVE PEOPLE!!
Posted 12 January 2015 - 03:14 AM
AoT
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Posted 12 January 2015 - 06:16 AM
AoT
THAT'S WHAT HEROES DO, THEY SAVE PEOPLE!!
Posted 12 January 2015 - 09:30 PM
What should be interesting to people is this question. How was Grisha able to regress Eren's memories? It's obvious that Grisha was conditioning Eren during his youth, and also forcing him to forget major events well only giving him subconscious hints to remember at times, which is interesting. How was he able to do that when it's been stated that only the royal family is suppose to be able to alter memories like that?
It could of course just be an over site, but if it isn't many interesting conclusions can be drawn from it.
Is Grisha another outsider from beyond the wall? Or does he and Eren's mother instead have a connection to the elites in the city.
More and more questions.
Posted 13 January 2015 - 01:19 AM
AoT
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Posted 13 January 2015 - 01:39 AM
What should be interesting to people is this question. How was Grisha able to regress Eren's memories? It's obvious that Grisha was conditioning Eren during his youth, and also forcing him to forget major events well only giving him subconscious hints to remember at times, which is interesting. How was he able to do that when it's been stated that only the royal family is suppose to be able to alter memories like that?
It could of course just be an over site, but if it isn't many interesting conclusions can be drawn from it.
Is Grisha another outsider from beyond the wall? Or does he and Eren's mother instead have a connection to the elites in the city.
More and more questions.
Hmm, the only way I could imagine Grisha having been able to regress Eren's memories is b/c he ate Frieda, but as you said, changing or suppressing someone's memories should only be possible if one belongs to the royal bloodline.
Moreover, how come Eren doesn't remember anything that happened after Grisha's death? I feel like we will get a complete flashback scene from the final night b/w Eren and Grisha in the future. There must surely have been people that saw Grisha taking Eren away into the forest.
But I ask you: How did Eren receive his so called "Coordinator"? Was it ever mentioned that Titan shifters from the royal family possessed this Coordinator?
*sigh* The questions keep building up and up.
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Posted 17 January 2015 - 01:27 AM
Hmm, the only way I could imagine Grisha having been able to regress Eren's memories is b/c he ate Frieda, but as you said, changing or suppressing someone's memories should only be possible if one belongs to the royal bloodline.
Moreover, how come Eren doesn't remember anything that happened after Grisha's death? I feel like we will get a complete flashback scene from the final night b/w Eren and Grisha in the future. There must surely have been people that saw Grisha taking Eren away into the forest.
But I ask you: How did Eren receive his so called "Coordinator"? Was it ever mentioned that Titan shifters from the royal family possessed this Coordinator?
*sigh* The questions keep building up and up.
The thing is with the opening page of the story we know that Eren has already had his memories replaced. He wakes up crying though and unable to remember what his subconcious was trying to remind him well he was dreaming. Which means his father was likely making him forget things even before the attack on the city.
Other things that hint to this, is that Eren reacts positively at the sight of the key that is around his fathers neck. Hinting that to him the key is a poistive renforcement. Which is why his Dad brings it up to calm him down, so he'll stop arguing with his mother. As soon as his Father shows it to him his entire personality changes, and he seems overjoyed. This even though he has no idea conciously why he'd be intersted in the basement. His desire to revist the basement is only in his subconciousness that he draws from when he has no other answers.
Historia has a similar past, forgetting supposedly major events in her life like her "big sister". From this we can estimate that both the good Dr. and the King are seemingly using similar technquies to control their children. Alteration of memories, and human phsychological coditioning.
In that vien of thought, it would suggest that the TItans for the royal family are negative renforcement that are brought down on the people when they begn to doubt the royal families supposed altruistic utopian ideals "a society where man doesn't fight man". Yet even in such a society two clans rebelled in the defense of free will. Mikasa is a descendent of both clans, and is not affected by the royal families conditioning.
In the words of Sherlock Holmes though:
"In solving a problem of this sort, the grand thing is to be able to reason backwards. That is a very useful accomplishment, and a very easy one, but people do not practise it much. In the every-day affairs of life it is more useful to reason forwards, and so the other comes to be neglected. There are fifty who can reason synthetically for one who can reason analytically...Let me see if I can make it clearer. Most people, if you describe a train of events to them, will tell you what the result would be. They can put those events together in their minds, and argue from them that something will come to pass. There are few people, however, who, if you told them a result, would be able to evolve from their own inner consciousness what the steps were which led up to that result. This power is what I mean when I talk of reasoning backwards, or analytically."
To any man or woman intersted in this story, I think this is the way to look at this plot.
Posted 05 February 2015 - 10:43 PM
MUHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
It's that time again people, The spoilers for Chapter 66 have spread throughout the internet, be warned if you haven't read the manga and only watch the anime you might wanna avoid these. By the way Yes these are confirmed spoilers from Mangahelpers.
All I can say for people that want to avoid spoilers is that Chapter 66 is titled Wish, that is all.
THAT'S WHAT HEROES DO, THEY SAVE PEOPLE!!
Posted 06 February 2015 - 12:27 AM
MUHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
It's that time again people, The spoilers for Chapter 66 have spread throughout the internet, be warned if you haven't read the manga and only watch the anime you might wanna avoid these. By the way Yes these are confirmed spoilers from Mangahelpers.
All I can say for people that want to avoid spoilers is that Chapter 66 is titled Wish, that is all.
Chapter 66 MASSIVE SPOILERS
This looks promising
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Agh, I need the chapter now !
Persona 5 hype
Posted 06 February 2015 - 01:36 AM
OMG! I wann read the chapter like NOW!!!!MUHAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
It's that time again people, The spoilers for Chapter 66 have spread throughout the internet, be warned if you haven't read the manga and only watch the anime you might wanna avoid these. By the way Yes these are confirmed spoilers from Mangahelpers.
All I can say for people that want to avoid spoilers is that Chapter 66 is titled Wish, that is all.
Chapter 66 MASSIVE SPOILERS
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Posted 06 February 2015 - 01:51 AM
OMG! I wann read the chapter like NOW!!!!
That was my reaction when i first saw the images, ugh.... I'm very very curious as to what the hell is going on?
THAT'S WHAT HEROES DO, THEY SAVE PEOPLE!!
Posted 06 February 2015 - 02:24 AM
That was my reaction when i first saw the images, ugh.... I'm very very curious as to what the hell is going on?
Guess what my favorite panel was: The last one
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