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[HauntedCake]

He doesnt but what I have seen from this chapter he will develop interest in sakura in very end and they will live happily evr after go SS!!Go NH!!

kittenK all the development NS HAD!! YAY KISHI U DID GR8!!

Yeah, Kishimoto the god of trolling

Hey slex, why don't you do a LAP like you did with NaruSaku moments for Sasusaku???

SasuSaku - the build up!!!







seriously please do this

Edited by HauntedCake, 10 April 2013 - 07:10 PM.

[dragonflyx11]

Anything goes, but half the people here are just imagining SS? I would assume people would be more optimistic if they really believed 'anything goes.' But no, every time Sasuke appears, SS hysteria follows.



This.



That's fine, I've been commenting about this since the second page. My comments are aimed at the people making SS prophecies and character bashing.

BUT there is no denying that if sasuke has truly turned over to the side of good, that does open a door to the possibility of SS.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Yeah, Kishimoto the god of trolling

Hey slex, why don't you do a LAP like you did with NaruSaku moments for Sasusaku???

SasuSaku - the build up!!!







seriously please do this

Funny, because all I'll see abusive until perhaps the future chapters, but that's just me.

[luffyq1]

Anything goes, but half the people here are just imagining SS? I would assume people would be more optimistic if they really believed 'anything goes.' But no, every time Sasuke appears, SS hysteria follows.

I have every reason to believe that anything that makes little to no sense can happen now, and I stop being optimistic a while ago. Pretty sure that when I said anything goes in my previous post I meant things that come off as rushed and asspull, like this chapter.

[TouKen4Life3g]

BUT there is no denying that if sasuke has truly turned over to the side of good, that does open a door to the possibility of SS.

Ok first of all, it was given he'll be good again. You should have at least expect this. Second, if this keeps up, it's more like it's back to square one with no real Sasuke x ??? because all of them will be same as part 1, with an addition of Karin, so it's like well no pairing for Sakura if she goes back.

[rocci]

BUT there is no denying that if sasuke has truly turned over to the side of good, that does open a door to the possibility of SS.

Well kishi can use kakashi gaiden solution tell to sakura naruto love her and he treat her like trash(literally)

Oh did it make naruto second choice? Yes but to naruto sakura always his first love.

[MangaReader]

No pairing in the end XD

[Smiter]

Well, I did expect Sasuke to turn good at the end of the manga, but not this quickly. It does feel like Naruto's efforts may have gone to waste:

It just goes against everything Naruto's character was set up for. His big, over-arching goal was to redeem Sasuke. But Itachi and the Hokages did it. Now Naruto is only indirectly involved. He was the inspiration in Sasuke's redemption, but did not have an actual hand in the redemption.

Poor Naruto didn't even feature in Sasuke's thoughts. It was all about Itachi.

Of course, anything can happen after Madara is taken care of. Like Nate said:

I don't see it being this simple. All Sasuke said was that he wouldn't let his brother and village go to waste. What does that ultimately mean? I thought he'd end up with an Obito-like goal...it sounds good, but it's really not (I don't mean Obito's specific objective). This shouldn't be surprising as Sasuke has his greastest chance to take revenge on Konoha with Naruto not around. Given that Kishi is all but screaming from the mountain tops what the end game is, there was no way Sasuke was going to revert to his original course because even if the First can pull a Madara, the whole village would be witness to him actively tearing it apart and that complicates Kishimoto's ultimate goal.

Also, does anyone think Orochimaru is just going to stand and watch?

Just because nobody wants to see the villages and the sacrifices of shinobi all over the world go to waste, doesn't mean that they'll all be holding hands and skipping over fields of flowers with rainbows in the background. In this fight, everyone (except Madara and Obito) is united by a common aim; they would like to keep the world the way it is, thankyouverymuch. After the dust has settled, everyone could have ideas of their own.

I also don't understand why some people are jumping to conclusions about pairings. When Sasuke was good, did he even have an iota of romantic feeling towards Sakura? Of course not. To date, we have not seen a SINGLE panel of Sasuke thinking of Sakura as more than a comrade, and Naruto has not expressed any romantic feelings for Hinata. Like kirabook and others have said, NaruSaku has had consistent build-up through the whole of the manga so far with clear development of feelings from both Naruto and Sakura. Naruto still loves Sakura, and Sakura has been questioning herself about what she really feels for both boys. If you look at the whole, it does appear that Sakura just needs a little push, and it may come soon.

If Sakura was simply going to revert to her old Part One fangirling self, then why would Kishi waste all that ink and paper on developing the relationship between Naruto and Sakura?

In fact, I think my biggest disappointment in this chapter was Karin. Yes, she rages over Sasuke stabbing her, but then she easily forgives him. How can she completely trust him again? It's just not realistic at all.

Well, I'm looking forward to Naruto and Minato being reunited. Like Baguette said, I think Minato plans to give Naruto the other half of the Kyuubi's chakra, which he sealed within himself when he was taken by the Death God. But, I also want to see reactions from the Konoha [s]11[s] 10 (Poor Neji ) when they find out Naruto is the Yondaime's son. Please, please, don't make it into an "Oh, we all knew about that" moment.

I'm just going to go with the flow and see what happens next.

[rocci]

No pairing in the end XD

Masaksih? kishimotrolololol

[dragonflyx11]

Ok first of all, it was given he'll be good again. You should have at least expect this. Second, if this keeps up, it's more like it's back to square one with no real Sasuke x ??? because all of them will be same as part 1, with an addition of Karin, so it's like well no pairing for Sakura if she goes back.

did i see him becoming good again? yes , but not without narutos input.

[Nefertieh]

Most of the people here were expecting more out of Karin. She was a lot closer to Sasuke than Sakura was and she got it much worse than Sakura did during the Summit Arc. I was expecting their confrontation to be taken much more seriously than it was. I was expecting Karin to want a fight, for a divide to happen between Team Taka, for Sasuke to take responsibility for his actions. Karin didn't even get a serious apology from Sasuke and she was over it and clinging to him in no time at all. #Chris Brown 2.0

Have you read any if my replies to you on this thread?

I have never said Karin running back to Sasuke was ok, especially as a feminist. However, Karin is smarter than most people give her credit for. Remember how she tricked the guard into thinking she was bipolar about Sasuke, so they could escape? What I'm saying is, Karin could very much be plotting her revenge, and we're all going to eat our words if we assume she is genuinely delighted to be with the man who stabbed her.

If Kishimoto was willing to do that to Karin, how can I expect Sakura's reunion to be any different? I don't think Sakura's going to fangirl all over Sasuke like Karin did, but I can easily see her forgiving him entirely for everything that he's done to her, the village, and Naruto in the past. I can also just as easily see that old crush of her's resurfacing, which in my eyes has never done any good for her character.

Sakura is not Karin. Sakura has her own family and friends, people she loves and people who love her. She is not a satellite, her role in this story is not Sasuke fangirl #1. I can imagine that she will still care for him, but I can't imagine her fangirling over him again.

Do I think this will make her lose whatever feelings she has for Naruto at this point? No, but I do feel that whatever development that is to come between her and Sasuke will dampen my feelings for NaruSaku entirely. I don't want a sloppy canon OTP.

Would a scenario where Sakura chooses to be with Naruto - despite the fact that Sasuke is no longer evil - be a 'sloppy' otp?

I also don't want to see her moment come because of Sasuke's arrival. I was hoping to see more development for her that doesn't have to do with pairings. I wanted to see her fighting because she wants to protect what's important to her, not waiting until Sasuke shows up to do something significant. And I can guarantee that if Sasuke enters this battle, Sakura is going to be sidelined once again, (after she's done playing her role as pairing fodder, of course). I thought that she would get an opportunity to have her "shining moment" once we returned to the Alliance fight, but with Sasuke and the Hokages on their way, there's no chance of that happening.

Kishimoto loves Sasuke too much to let Sakura stand out on her own while he's around.

I'm sure if we do see her again, it will be a Konoha vs Tobi and Madara moment.

[Slextrem]

I don't think anyone here is panicking because they think SasuSaku will be canon. At least, that's not the case for me. I'm afraid that this sudden rush of events will lead to more regression in Sakura's character development. She's more than just pairing fodder and I can only hope that Kishi agrees with me. But, if he was willing to do what he did to Karin, (and it really doesn't look like she's plotting anything to me), I can easily see Sakura getting the same treatment, with no resentment towards Sasuke for his actions against her, the village, or her friends. Just hugs and apologies all around.

As far as pairings go, what Kishimoto decides to do once Sasuke arrives will affect how I feel about NaruSaku. Like I said, I don't want a sloppy canon moment for them that was put together in a few panels at the end of the story. They should be fighting this together, without Sasuke's help, and without Hinata intervening. All of these plot twists have been too big and too fast for me to handle. What happened to that slow and steady build-up that Kishimoto had going for this series? Where is that?

Edited by Slextrem, 10 April 2013 - 07:28 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

did i see him becoming good again? yes , but not without narutos input.

Hard to say. I think smiter said it best about my feelings of this current event.

[dragonflyx11]

Well, I did expect Sasuke to turn good at the end of the manga, but not this quickly. It does feel like Naruto's efforts may have gone to waste:



Poor Naruto didn't even feature in Sasuke's thoughts. It was all about Itachi.

Of course, anything can happen after Madara is taken care of. Like Nate said:



Just because nobody wants to see the villages and the sacrifices of shinobi all over the world go to waste, doesn't mean that they'll all be holding hands and skipping over fields of flowers with rainbows in the background. In this fight, everyone (except Madara and Obito) is united by a common aim; they would like to keep the world the way it is, thankyouverymuch. After the dust has settled, everyone could have ideas of their own.

I also don't understand why some people are jumping to conclusions about pairings. When Sasuke was good, did he even have an iota of romantic feeling towards Sakura? Of course not. To date, we have not seen a SINGLE panel of Sasuke thinking of Sakura as more than a comrade, and Naruto has not expressed any romantic feelings for Hinata. Like kirabook and others have said, NaruSaku has had consistent build-up through the whole of the manga so far with clear development of feelings from both Naruto and Sakura. Naruto still loves Sakura, and Sakura has been questioning herself about what she really feels for both boys. If you look at the whole, it does appear that Sakura just needs a little push, and it may come soon.

If Sakura was simply going to revert to her old Part One fangirling self, then why would Kishi waste all that ink and paper on developing the relationship between Naruto and Sakura?

In fact, I think my biggest disappointment in this chapter was Karin. Yes, she rages over Sasuke stabbing her, but then she easily forgives him. How can she completely trust him again? It's just not realistic at all.

Well, I'm looking forward to Naruto and Minato being reunited. Like Baguette said, I think Minato plans to give Naruto the other half of the Kyuubi's chakra, which he sealed within himself when he was taken by the Death God. But, I also want to see reactions from the Konoha [s]11[s] 10 (Poor Neji ) when they find out Naruto is the Yondaime's son. Please, please, don't make it into an "Oh, we all knew about that" moment.

I'm just going to go with the flow and see what happens next.

i would agree with you completely, if kishi had not been pulling asspull after asspull. kishi could very easily throw away Naruto and sakuras development just as easily as he threw away narutos driving goal.

[Toasty Warrior]

Meanwhile in Japan yet again:

[Nefertieh]

I have every reason to believe that anything that makes little to no sense can happen now, and I stop being optimistic a while ago. Pretty sure that when I said anything goes in my previous post I meant things that come off as rushed and asspull, like this chapter.

I have never been an optimist, and you can see from all of my posts (starting all the way from the second page!) that I have been highly critical of this chapter. But there is a difference between being a critic and simply jumping to alarming conclusions. This isn't aimed at you, just people here who are bashing a certain heroine who didn't even appear in this chapter.

[Gravenimage]

Well, I did expect Sasuke to turn good at the end of the manga, but not this quickly. It does feel like Naruto's efforts may have gone to waste:



Poor Naruto didn't even feature in Sasuke's thoughts. It was all about Itachi.

Of course, anything can happen after Madara is taken care of. Like Nate said:



Just because nobody wants to see the villages and the sacrifices of shinobi all over the world go to waste, doesn't mean that they'll all be holding hands and skipping over fields of flowers with rainbows in the background. In this fight, everyone (except Madara and Obito) is united by a common aim; they would like to keep the world the way it is, thankyouverymuch. After the dust has settled, everyone could have ideas of their own.

I also don't understand why some people are jumping to conclusions about pairings. When Sasuke was good, did he even have an iota of romantic feeling towards Sakura? Of course not. To date, we have not seen a SINGLE panel of Sasuke thinking of Sakura as more than a comrade, and Naruto has not expressed any romantic feelings for Hinata. Like kirabook and others have said, NaruSaku has had consistent build-up through the whole of the manga so far with clear development of feelings from both Naruto and Sakura. Naruto still loves Sakura, and Sakura has been questioning herself about what she really feels for both boys. If you look at the whole, it does appear that Sakura just needs a little push, and it may come soon.

If Sakura was simply going to revert to her old Part One fangirling self, then why would Kishi waste all that ink and paper on developing the relationship between Naruto and Sakura?

In fact, I think my biggest disappointment in this chapter was Karin. Yes, she rages over Sasuke stabbing her, but then she easily forgives him. How can she completely trust him again? It's just not realistic at all.

Well, I'm looking forward to Naruto and Minato being reunited. Like Baguette said, I think Minato plans to give Naruto the other half of the Kyuubi's chakra, which he sealed within himself when he was taken by the Death God. But, I also want to see reactions from the Konoha [s]11[s] 10 (Poor Neji ) when they find out Naruto is the Yondaime's son. Please, please, don't make it into an "Oh, we all knew about that" moment.

I'm just going to go with the flow and see what happens next.

This^ thank you Smiter for pointing out the truth. As I'm reading all of these posts all I can do is .

[CloudMountainJuror]

Sasuke's a good guy after some story time with Hashirama. And Karin's character has been successfully butchered.

<*snip* No uncensored f-words, please. ~ Smiter>

Edited by Smiter, 10 April 2013 - 08:11 PM.
Uncensored profanity.

[Slextrem]

I have never been an optimist, and you can see from all of my posts (starting all the way from the second page!) that I have been highly critical of this chapter. But there is a difference between being a critic and simply jumping to alarming conclusions. This isn't aimed at you, just people here who are bashing a certain heroine who didn't even appear in this chapter.

I didn't realize that criticizing the way that the author treats his female characters is considered character bashing.

Edited by Slextrem, 10 April 2013 - 07:39 PM.

[Nefertieh]

I don't think anyone here is panicking because they think SasuSaku will be canon. At least, that's not the case for me. I'm afraid that this sudden rush of events will lead to more regression in Sakura's character development. She's more than just pairing fodder and I can only hope that Kishi agrees with me. But, if he was willing to do what he did to Karin, (and it really doesn't look like she's plotting anything to me), I can easily see Sakura getting the same treatment, with no resentment towards Sasuke for his actions against her, the village, or her friends. Just hugs and apologies all around.

I guess you missed the prophecies a few pages back where Sasuke will rescue Sakura from the clutches of Madara, bridal style and all.

Currently the biggest hindrance to Sakura's character development is the lack of screentime. I don't see why you would think Sakura would "regress" if she was made into pairing fodder unless it's SS you're talking about.

As far as pairings go, what Kishimoto decides to do once Sasuke arrives will affect how I feel about NaruSaku. Like I said, I don't want a sloppy canon moment for them that was put together in a few panels at the end of the story. They should be fighting this together, without Sasuke's help, and without Hinata intervening. All of these plot twists have been too big and too fast for me to handle. What happened to that slow and steady build-up that Kishimoto had going for this series? Where is that?

Everybody here would love to see that, but the war arc is not the last arc, and I'm pretty sure we don't see which pairing will be endgame until the last arc. Or maybe the epilogue. The fact that Sasuke has turned good could mean that Kishimoto wants to rush the manga to an end, or it could mean he plans on prolonging it.

I didn't realize that criticizing the way that the author treats his female characters is considered character bashing.

I'm guessing you missed the posts where people were mocking Sakura's fangirling.

Edited by Nefertieh, 10 April 2013 - 07:53 PM.