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[六道仙人]

I've actually always wanted to know who would win in a fight between Minato and Itachi. Either way, I think they are very equal in terms of strength.

I wonder why Minato doesn't know who Sasuke is. D: I assumed he was friends with Fugaku, for some reason. He must at least have known Kushina's friend's son.

Fugaku was a friend with someone? Sounds unrealistic to me

Well, Mikoto said sasuke's name to Kushina only in the day of her childbirth. I doubt that during that childbird things made like this

Kushha: AAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH! WHAT A FUCUKIN' PAAAAAIN!!!
Minato: Oh my god Kushina! It's the first time to see you in a such mood for me!!! Are you OK!
Kushina: NO, I'M NOT FINE, YOU IDIOT! AND STOP TO IRRITATE ME WITH THOSE DUMBES QUESTIONS!
Minato: O-Ok! ç_ç
Kushina: AAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAA-! Oh, by the way Minato! I meet Mikoto earlier and I've seen his son! He called him Sasuke, didn't you know it?
Minato: Mmmh, no. So his name is Sasuke? Nice! What's your impression about him?
Kushina: A little girly look maybe.... EHI! THIS ISN'T THE MOMENT FOR GOSSIP, YOU DUMBASS! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!



I mean, Kushina thought even that Mikoto was going to have a girl, not a boy.

[Don-kun]

At the very least Minato should be telling Sasuke to gtfo of the story and let his son have it back!

The Problem here is the person who gives life to Minato that person is a big Sasuke and Itachi fan, even for a video game he was asked witch character he will use to fight with and he said Sasuke, then Sasuke was giving he own perfume, tee-short, novel and know its speculated that next movie will be about Sasuke.

Naruto? Who is Naruto and that Pink haired girl I forgot her name but I hear someone saying that those two should of being the main characters of this story, is that truth?

[ciardha]

Having some educational background in psychology, this actually quirks my interest- and pretty much confirms an impression I've long had of Kishimoto's writing- that he also has some educational background in psychology. I don't find it disappointing at all. It makes me curious what Kishimoto will go with this.

Psychology studies have indeed proven there is a fine line between love and hate- both emotions stimulate the same parts of the brain. This is probably why stalkers so often quickly shift from obsessive love to obsessive hatred.

[TouKen4Life3g]

It's very possible that she'll talk with Sasuke about why he wanted to kill her, but there's many ways how Karin will relate between her, Sasuke and Sakura, though, I don't think that she will expand her talk with him other than why he tried to kill her cause that would take a whole chapter or two in a concluded way, which it isn't that much important considering that there are a lot more other things that need to be covered till the end of the manga.

SS is somewhat like SK. I said " somewhat " cause the way Karin deals with Sasuke is different than the way Sakura deals with Sasuke, and same goes for Sasuke, which in that standard, Karin is better than Sakura with Sasuke. But, all in all, both of them were treated badly, and Sasuke didn't care. Now, there's the Uchiha sense, which it also goes toward SK, but it's still needed more than that, which is why we need to see the reunion and furthermore after that.

Agree with you on the NH and SK thing. If magically NH happened, then SK, as it is now, can happen. Though, the writer's consequences are that it will be bad for the manga and for the writing as in story line and the plot.

At the very least, I do believe Karin will bring up the team, rather than individual. If anyone going to get one, it's most definitely be Naruto because all hope was lost for Sasuke becoming "normal" again until Naruto shows up the scene. Funny enough, it happened after Karin gave up on Sasuke. I feel like Naruto changed all that for all of them. That one panel of Karin tells me something that she either felt something from Sasuke (chakra sense) or perhaps thought over Naruto's words. That panel, much like Sakura's panel in 615, must have a reason. If anything, I can see her rooting for Naruto to help Sasuke. I don't know.

Funny that you mention about consequences, because honestly if SK happens, there's nothing but good out of it. Maybe the bad part will be on the fans as in "Ah man, what the hell Sasuke got someone!?" but I digress. SS brings a bad moral and leave Naruto in a horrible defeat. Say what you want, but no matter what, this is the fans' defeat. NH will destroy all the reasons to keep supporting Naruto if he can jump anywhere. That's basically saying, "About Sasuke, I decided to leave him be, because I believe he can do whatever he wants. I don't need to save him." NS, well do I need to say it?

[Don-kun]

At the very least, I do believe Karin will bring up the team, rather than individual. If anyone going to get one, it's most definitely be Naruto because all hope was lost for Sasuke becoming "normal" again until Naruto shows up the scene. Funny enough, it happened after Karin gave up on Sasuke. I feel like Naruto changed all that for all of them. That one panel of Karin tells me something that she either felt something from Sasuke (chakra sense) or perhaps thought over Naruto's words. That panel, much like Sakura's panel in 615, must have a reason. If anything, I can see her rooting for Naruto to help Sasuke. I don't know.

Funny that you mention about consequences, because honestly if SK happens, there's nothing but good out of it. Maybe the bad part will be on the fans as in "Ah man, what the hell Sasuke got someone!?" but I digress. SS brings a bad moral and leave Naruto in a horrible defeat. Say what you want, but no matter what, this is the fans' defeat. NH will destroy all the reasons to keep supporting Naruto if he can jump anywhere. That's basically saying, "About Sasuke, I decided to leave him be, because I believe he can do whatever he wants. I don't need to save him." NS, well do I need to say it?

Look at tricksie, Nate River, Codus N, Manga reader, T XD, and many others who are NS fans and believe in the pairing, but at the same time they are open minded about the Manga small possibility to head another direction just like myself.

1st Bolded, Karin have zero reason to talk about the team since Sasuke already have a team, if she likes Sasuke and she wants to give him a change (even when I believe she shouldn't) she need to know what Sasuke felt for Sakura and why he choosing her over Sakura.
She needs to know if there was an history between them, that way she doesn't feel 2nd to her.

2nd and 3rd Bolded you just proved to be just like those typical NH fan who wish for SS or for Sakura to keep loving Sasuke to keep her out of the way of NH, I liked SK in the past and I still have some of those feelings, but like you said SS is bad for Naruto, and possible a terrible pairing ass well, well I believe SK is bad for the story, for female integrity and for Karin ass well, Sorry to all SK and SK/NS fans since I also believe that SK is a terrible pairing, this is coming from someone who wished to no end that Sasuke would open up to Karin in the past.

Also you know what I like about the NS fandom the most? Is that they don't need Sasuke to fall for another girl that way Sakura is available for Naruto, if anything I personally will like for Sasuke to have some kind of feelings for her and for Sakura to tell him thanks but no thank, thanks to him stepping away from her life the way he did she was able to notice a great man for who she has fallen for and believes that he is the only man who really deserves her love and devotion.
Something like this would completely restore Sakura's dignity since I care about Naruto but I also care about her, not only Naruto.

Edited by Don-kun, 07 February 2013 - 05:04 PM.

[T XD]

At the very least, I do believe Karin will bring up the team, rather than individual. If anyone going to get one, it's most definitely be Naruto because all hope was lost for Sasuke becoming "normal" again until Naruto shows up the scene. Funny enough, it happened after Karin gave up on Sasuke. I feel like Naruto changed all that for all of them. That one panel of Karin tells me something that she either felt something from Sasuke (chakra sense) or perhaps thought over Naruto's words. That panel, much like Sakura's panel in 615, must have a reason. If anything, I can see her rooting for Naruto to help Sasuke. I don't know.

Funny that you mention about consequences, because honestly if SK happens, there's nothing but good out of it. Maybe the bad part will be on the fans as in "Ah man, what the hell Sasuke got someone!?" but I digress. SS brings a bad moral and leave Naruto in a horrible defeat. Say what you want, but no matter what, this is the fans' defeat. NH will destroy all the reasons to keep supporting Naruto if he can jump anywhere. That's basically saying, "About Sasuke, I decided to leave him be, because I believe he can do whatever he wants. I don't need to save him." NS, well do I need to say it?

Pretty much XD, but there's a big problem in SK's part. SK will bring good but there's this big problem.

Karin said that she gave up on Sasuke. Well, when a character announce that then there's no future for those two characters. But, the fact that she has yet to return to them to see what could result from 619 and Sasuke's and Karin's situation in regard to each other after Sasuke tried to kill her, her family name and the push up of 619 for SK. When things like these happen then there's still an opportunity. We'll see what will happen after Karin's return XD

[MangaReader]

Look at tricksie, Nate River, Codus N, Manga reader, T XD, and many others who are NS fans and believe in the pairing, but at the same time they are open minded about the Manga possible heading another direction just like myself.

Sometimes it just best to keep the mind open, that way nothing seems truly surprising.

Also you know what I liked about the NS fandom the most? Is that they don't need Sasuke to fall for another girl that way Sakura is available for Naruto, if anything I personally will like for Sasuke to have some kind of feelings for her and for Sakura to tell him thanks but no thank, thanks to him stepping away from her live the way he did she was able to notice a great man for who she has fallen for and believes that he is the only man who really deserves her love and devotion.
Something like this would completely restore Sakura's dignity since I care about Naruto but I also care about her, not only Naruto.

Oh man, I can hear the NaruHina fans screaming "Out of Character" to no end. I like it

[Don-kun]

Sometimes it just best to keep the mind open, that way nothing seems truly surprising.



Oh man, I can hear the NaruHina fans screaming "Out of Character" to no end. I like it

Well Sakura did use the sentence that from the bottom of her heart, before Naruto cut her off.
plus they treating you always being by my side and even changing the name of their FC to it, that shows how hypocrites most of them really are since Sakura was the one most of the time by his side.

Sakura as shown true actions and words that Naruto really means a lot to her.
Kishimoto needed to kill Neji and his dying words needed to be about Hinata for Naruto finally give her 3 minutes of his life, so honestly by now I really don't care about the NH and SS fans opinions.

Edited by Don-kun, 07 February 2013 - 05:16 PM.

[sushi.]

Oh man, I can hear the NaruHina fans screaming "Out of Character" to no end. I like it

Not necessarily that, more like "How could he love her and not Hinata? D:"

If they would claim it is OOC..I'm used to Naruto's love for Sakura, but if he would start loving Hinata, I don't know how I could support him anymore. Naruto also confirmed his love for Sakura a while ago. But apparently, a "thank you" from Naruto to Hinata means more than that. XD I love the double-standard.

[MangaReader]

Well Sakura did use the sentence that from the bottom of her heart, before Naruto cut her off.
plus they treating you always being by my side and even changing the name of their FC to it, that shows how hypocrites most of them really are since Sakura was the one most of the time by his side.

Sakura as shown true actions and words that Naruto really means a lot to her.
Kishimoto needed to kill Neji and his dying words needed to be about Hinata for Naruto finally give her 3 minutes of his life, so honestly by now I really don't care about the NH and SS fans opinions.

Yup, I've got no complaints with Sakura falling for Naruto, it's really only natural how things are occurring right now, though 3 attempts of being killed really should have made up Sakura's mind by now, Kishi doesn't want to lose his fans just yet.

Hinata always need some life or death moment to even come in contact with Naruto... so it's clear that sorta relationship sucks. I don't understand why Hinata fans are blinded to this.

Not necessarily that, more like "How could he love her and not Hinata? D:"

If they would claim it is OOC..I'm used to Naruto's love for Sakura, but if he would start loving Hinata, I don't know how I could support him anymore. Naruto also confirmed his love for Sakura a while ago. But apparently, a "thank you" from Naruto to Hinata means more than that. XD I love the double-standard.

A thank you from Sasuke was taken romantically to them, so of coarse Naruto's thank you meant the same. At least they held up that consistency with their shipping.

Edited by MangaReader, 07 February 2013 - 05:25 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Look at tricksie, Nate River, Codus N, Manga reader, T XD, and many others who are NS fans and believe in the pairing, but at the same time they are open minded about the Manga small possibility to head another direction just like myself.

1st Bolded, Karin have zero reason to talk about the team since Sasuke already have a team, if she likes Sasuke and she wants to give him a change (even when I believe she shouldn't) she need to know what Sasuke felt for Sakura and why he choosing her over Sakura.
She needs to know if there was an history between them, that way she doesn't feel 2nd to her.

2nd and 3rd Bolded you just proved to be just like those typical NH fan who wish for SS or for Sakura to keep loving Sasuke to keep her out of the way of NH, I liked SK in the past and I still have some of those feelings, but like you said SS is bad for Naruto, and possible a terrible pairing ass well, well I believe SK is bad for the story, for female integrity and for Karin ass well, Sorry to all SK and SK/NS fans since I also believe that SK is a terrible pairing, this is coming from someone who wished to no end that Sasuke would open up to Karin in the past.

Also you know what I like about the NS fandom the most? Is that they don't need Sasuke to fall for another girl that way Sakura is available for Naruto, if anything I personally will like for Sasuke to have some kind of feelings for her and for Sakura to tell him thanks but no thank, thanks to him stepping away from her life the way he did she was able to notice a great man for who she has fallen for and believes that he is the only man who really deserves her love and devotion.
Something like this would completely restore Sakura's dignity since I care about Naruto but I also care about her, not only Naruto.

Well I did mention that I am not a fan of SK but you have the right to point that out. I'm just saying if it happened, there's no really bad consequences, though perhaps other pointed it out. I have said this many times that I don't need Sasuke to go with another girl to make NS canon. I'm only suggesting that if and it is a big if Kishi have the need to pair Sasuke with anyone, well Karin will be the first come to mind. Would I agree with it entirely? Maybe, who knows depending how Kishi work it. After all, it is his story.

I do like the fact that you pointed out that the best part of NS is that it's all done by themselves, not the need of others or stuff like that. I agree with you. It's a bit sad that a lot of people needs NH to happen for SS to happen or vice versa. Love should not be tag team. Love is personal and should happen only within each other. I believe Kishi knows this as well. But I do apologize about me wanting SK to make NS, which is not true. Only suggesting.

[narusaku4ver]

Look at tricksie, Nate River, Codus N, Manga reader, T XD, and many others who are NS fans and believe in the pairing, but at the same time they are open minded about the Manga small possibility to head another direction just like myself.

1st Bolded, Karin have zero reason to talk about the team since Sasuke already have a team, if she likes Sasuke and she wants to give him a change (even when I believe she shouldn't) she need to know what Sasuke felt for Sakura and why he choosing her over Sakura.
She needs to know if there was an history between them, that way she doesn't feel 2nd to her.

2nd and 3rd Bolded you just proved to be just like those typical NH fan who wish for SS or for Sakura to keep loving Sasuke to keep her out of the way of NH, I liked SK in the past and I still have some of those feelings, but like you said SS is bad for Naruto, and possible a terrible pairing ass well, well I believe SK is bad for the story, for female integrity and for Karin ass well, Sorry to all SK and SK/NS fans since I also believe that SK is a terrible pairing, this is coming from someone who wished to no end that Sasuke would open up to Karin in the past.

Also you know what I like about the NS fandom the most? Is that they don't need Sasuke to fall for another girl that way Sakura is available for Naruto, if anything I personally will like for Sasuke to have some kind of feelings for her and for Sakura to tell him thanks but no thank, thanks to him stepping away from her life the way he did she was able to notice a great man for who she has fallen for and believes that he is the only man who really deserves her love and devotion.
Something like this would completely restore Sakura's dignity since I care about Naruto but I also care about her, not only Naruto.

Just pointing out what's the necessity of others telling why i choose someome or whatever, it's a shounen not shoujo, the same way that i dont see Naruto talking with Hinata why he loves Sakura, i cant see why Karin would be concerned about Sakura feelings or Sasuke having to explain why he choose Karin or Sakura.
It just make the things more complicated and retarded.
I only see Sakura with the feeling to not hurt Naruto's feelings this is why SS cant happen, she is concerned about Naruto more than Hinata.
Hinata wants to protect naruto but does not care about his feelings or personal desires because she does not know and did not make an effort to understand it, Sakura did for both Naruto and Sasuke.

For me it's Narusaku or a Open ending, NH does have a chance with successive asspulls and bad writings.

[Don-kun]

^^
Your post does make a lot of sense and honestly Kishi adding all these stuff with just be silly, but my scenario only apply if Kishi wants to add SK to the mix, I don't see her with him with out she asking him about Sakura.

Yup, I've got no complaints with Sakura falling for Naruto, it's really only natural how things are occurring right now, though 3 attempts of being killed really should have made up Sakura's mind by now, Kishi doesn't want to lose his fans just yet.

Hinata always need some life or death moment to even come in contact with Naruto... so it's clear that sorta relationship sucks. I don't understand why Hinata fans are blinded to this.


A thank you from Sasuke was taken romantically to them, so of coarse Naruto's thank you meant the same. At least they held up that consistency with their shipping.

If I call you annoying after your confession, tell you thank you, then knock you out. That is so Romantic.
If I hold your hand while thanking you for you support, then give you chakra and let go of your hand, it's so Romantic.
But is I hug you in a very tender way while my hand cares the back of you neck suggestively while many of the Villagers are shocked and other are blushing and giving the readers that is so romantic feelings, is just friendship.

Yep Some shippers interpretation of some moment and the blatant dismissal of others are just outstanding.

Edited by Don-kun, 07 February 2013 - 06:02 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

If I call you annoying after your confession, tell you thank you, then knock you out. That is so Romantic.
If I hold your hand while thanking you for you support, then give you chakra and let go of your hand, it's so Romantic.
But is I hug you in a very tender way while my hand cares the back of you neck suggestively while many of the Villagers are shocked and other are blushing and giving the readers that is so romantic feelings, is just friendship.

Yep Some shippers interpretation of some moment and the blatant dismissal of others are just outstanding.

I couldn't agree more. Both of them don't have the necessary romantic atmosphere and/or one or both have failed to create one. Oh well, nothing we can do about it.

I still like your sig btw.

[Tsubaki]

Pretty much XD, but there's a big problem in SK's part. SK will bring good but there's this big problem.

Karin said that she gave up on Sasuke. Well, when a character announce that then there's no future for those two characters. But, the fact that she has yet to return to them to see what could result from 619 and Sasuke's and Karin's situation in regard to each other after Sasuke tried to kill her, her family name and the push up of 619 for SK. When things like these happen then there's still an opportunity. We'll see what will happen after Karin's return XD

just to clarify... Actually this is a mistranslation. The real translation is something like that, but the meaning it's different. look here: http://fuckyeahsasuk...-is-over-sasuke

Well I did mention that I am not a fan of SK but you have the right to point that out. I'm just saying if it happened, there's no really bad consequences, though perhaps other pointed it out. I have said this many times that I don't need Sasuke to go with another girl to make NS canon. I'm only suggesting that if and it is a big if Kishi have the need to pair Sasuke with anyone, well Karin will be the first come to mind. Would I agree with it entirely? Maybe, who knows depending how Kishi work it. After all, it is his story

I do like the fact that you pointed out that the best part of NS is that it's all done by themselves, not the need of others or stuff like that. I agree with you. It's a bit sad that a lot of people needs NH to happen for SS to happen or vice versa. Love should not be tag team. Love is personal and should happen only within each other. I believe Kishi knows this as well. But I do apologize about me wanting SK to make NS, which is not true. Only suggesting.

Same here ... especially the bolded part.


Like I said, I don't care if Sasuke end up alone or with someone ... but I see logic in many things that SK fans point out .... and as you said, NS doesn't depend on others pairings to happen.

[kirabook]

I don't particularly like or dislike SK. I don't really like it because like with Sakura, Sasuke hurt Karin, more than he has ever hurt Sakura. At the same time, Karin did not react to Sasuke's treatment like Sakura did. If Sasuke did that to Sakura, Sakura would blame it all on herself, I'm sure of it. I don't like Sakura's attitude when she's with Sasuke. She's so suppressed and submissive. Karin is not like that, which I guess makes me dislike it less than SS. Either way, he hurt both of them, neither deserve to have to be with such a terrible guy, I think they can both do better.

That said, I can see SK being canon in the end, but then again, I don't think I want it. There's bits and pieces that seem to point to SK sometimes, but then I wonder if I'm just looking into things too much.

Either way, I don't actually support any other pairings in Naruto other than canon ones and NS.

Edited by kirabook, 07 February 2013 - 06:49 PM.

[catsi563]

As ive said in the past and Ill repeat it here.

While no, NS doesnt need another pairing to happen as it stands nicely on its own. NS does share strong comparisons to SK and I believe this to be intentional. I still believe that Sasukes enf fate will be him and Karin in such a position where he is pursuing Karin in an attempt to rebuild his trust and relationship with her. bascialy building from the bottom up.

SK will not happen because Sasuke batts his eyelashes or says her name, thats not how its going to work. SK instead will be what NS was at the beginning. One pursuing the other but on equal terms.

Where SK may play into NS beyond the parallel of the two going full circle and Sasuke ending up where Naruto was at the beginning of the story. Is that Sasuke may make sure that Naruto sees Sakura or vice versa much as he did after the fight with gaara.

[六道仙人]

just to clarify... Actually this is a mistranslation. The real translation is something like that, but the meaning it's different. look here: http://fuckyeahsasuk...-is-over-sasuke




Same here ... especially the bolded part.


Like I said, I don't care if Sasuke end up alone or with someone ... but I see logic in many things that SK fans point out .... and as you said, NS doesn't depend on others pairings to happen.

Aargh, you made me coming to mind when Karin sees Sakura for the first time on that bridge. Translation teams mistranslated an her sentence about Sakura ("You must loves him...") when actually the real translation was (You're... his former comrade...") or something like that... I don't remember well now... O_o

[MangaReader]

If I call you annoying after your confession, tell you thank you, then knock you out. That is so Romantic.
If I hold your hand while thanking you for you support, then give you chakra and let go of your hand, it's so Romantic.
But is I hug you in a very tender way while my hand cares the back of you neck suggestively while many of the Villagers are shocked and other are blushing and giving the readers that is so romantic feelings, is just friendship.

Yep Some shippers interpretation of some moment and the blatant dismissal of others are just outstanding.

Don't forget, Sakura hit him first XD *I'm always reminded of that*

[T XD]

just to clarify... Actually this is a mistranslation. The real translation is something like that, but the meaning it's different. look here: http://fuckyeahsasuk...-is-over-sasuke

The link was useful XD.

It does show how Karin is better suited for Sasuke. She knows how to handle him. Not submissive.

The exact translation is " no… that’s enough… [of] about sasuke… ".
It still somewhat the same thing cause she, too, said that Karin said "enough" because he betrayed her and hurt her. While, yes, it does show that she have self-respect and that she is strong enough to be assertive about the situation, and that this is one of the things that makes her so good to Sasuke, which I absolutely agree. Though, the " enough " still has the same meaning that is linked to " because he betrayed her and hurt her", we don't know anything more what Karin has thought after that, aside that she acted as a fan girl when she was in prison to escape. That why we need to see them when they are reunited again and what happens after.

In addition, I do agree with her, too, that Karin still loving Sasuke doesn't mean that she has no self respect because she accepted what he did to her, strong and was able to be assertive with her emotions . But, it doesn't mean, till now from what is shown, that Sasuke is a good potential partner. Something needs to be shown to us from that aspect.

Edited by T XD, 07 February 2013 - 08:21 PM.