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[Canadian_DJ]

Ahh! Guys youre right, we should just forget all the hints, parrallels and development on NS, also the typical main character x tsundere pairings we always have in shonen story, because neji told naruto that she would die for naruto. I mean its not like we already knew this for 200 chapters, so its totally new.

This was such a big NH moment, now NH is much more likely then NS. I think im a NH shipper now.
Didnt you all see those romantic monents between naruto and hinata? /happy sarcasm

Haha i knowww man, this whole chapter was definetly not NH related, not like there was ever a N to begin with buut whatever.
Seriously people this is the finale for the hyuuga's not hinata, the HYUGA'S, and honestly i LOVED IT and im really looking forward to the upcoming chapters although im sure next week there ain't gonna be a chapter.

Man that scene for nejis death....man.....so emotional....i cried while i was reading that chapter man....the look on nejis face when he was smiling looked soo much like itachis death, and the last scene where he was on narutos shoulders man it also looked like itachi....man i took nejis death really hard in ma heart...rest in peace man you'll always be ma number 1.

[Don-kun]

@Dαrkrєrsŧ
Lets put it this way, If a girl needs to sacrifice her life twice to gain a guys attention and If the guy needs to be reminded about the girls dedication to him even with a dying person then you know there is no love, that's not how true love born and any smart person will know that since it's obvious.

But with Kishi we cannot tell, Because he love to force things for the readers to accept.

There is no chemistry between Naruto and Hinata, they are not close, Naruto doesn't focus on Hinata in any way, Hinata doesn't believe in Naruto and still feels that she needs to protect him, Naruto has a stronger friendship with another girl who happens to be the girl he loves, there is another girl who understand Naruto almost at a 85% rate that same girl genuinely cares about him and she is not only driven by her romantic affection she really cares about him as a person even with his pros and cons side plus they are really close friends.
Again that person happens to be the same person Naruto loves, he is comfortable around her, they look natural together and he also wants to see her happy, that person is Sakura Haruno the female lead of the Naruto Manga and Member of Team 7 the same group Naruto also belongs to.

With that said Hinata and HinaNaru are being forced down our throats, that is reality.

People we need to understand that NH right at this moments makes no sense since NH has no basic, no build up nothing it's just being forced on us, I'm not saying that Naruto and Sakura development might be wasted, Am saying that all this Hinata/HinaNaru focus makes no sense since it's out of nowhere, making it worse when we have Sakura, Kakashi and Sai (Member of team 7 and main characters) be the ones who are close to Naruto since they are teammate, but right now they only get the sideline so the highlight can be focus on Princess Hinata not all the rookies, but Princess Hinata.

Edited by Don-kun, 19 December 2012 - 12:14 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

@Dαrkrєrsŧ
Lets put it this way, If a girl needs to sacrifice her life twice to gain a guys attention and If the guy needs to be reminded about the girls dedication to him even with a dying person then you know there is no love, that's not how true love born and any smart person will know that since it's obvious.

But with Kishi we cannot tell, Because he love to force things for the readers to accept.

There is no chemistry between Naruto and Hinata, they are not close, Naruto doesn't focus on Hinata in any way, Hinata doesn't believe in Naruto and still feels that she needs to protect him, Naruto has a stronger friendship with another girl who happens to be the girl he loves, there is another girl who understand Naruto almost at a 85% rate that same girl genuinely cares about him and she is not only driven by her romantic affection she really cares about him as a person even with his pros and cons side plus they are really close friends.
Again that person happens to be the same person Naruto loves, he is comfortable around her, they look natural together and he also wants to see her happy, that person is Sakura Haruno the female lead of the Naruto Manga and Member of Team 7 the same group Naruto also belongs to.

With that said Hinata and HinaNaru are being forced down our throats, that is reality.


People we need to understand that NH right at this moments makes no sense since NH has no basic, no build up nothing it's just being forced on us, I'm not saying that Naruto and Sakura development might be wasted, Am saying that all this Hinata/HinaNaru focus makes no sense since it's out of nowhere, making it worse when we have Sakura, Kakashi and Sai (Member of team 7 and main characters) be the ones who are close to Naruto since they are teammate, but right now they only get the sideline so the highlight can be focus on Princess Hinata.

Look you saying that HinaNaru are being forced dow our throats, that is not reality, because if that "spoiler" come true like Obito remind of naru/hina being similar to obi/rin and neji told naruto to protect hinata then we would get hinanaru being forced dow our throats, it was time for neji and hinata development, sakura is there with kishimoto drawing a panel about her per chapter to remind us that he did not forget her, Nh makes no sense because naruto truly loves Sakura but still naruto has no feelings for hinata that are beyong friendship what neji told naruto is everyone is willing to sacrifice his own life for him, that does not include only hinata.

[Codus N]

I hope Obito's revival mention is just that a mention or he can only revive one person or something, because pulling the mass revival is OK once, twice just feels lazy and a lack of commitment to address the death of characters and for their sacrifice to mean anything.

And Sakura to force Obito's pain on Naruto as many have suggested.

If Obito can only revive one person with Rinne Tensei, then I'd have no problem with it. But I'd rather see that used on Kakashi rather than Sakura. Sakura being the one revived is just going to cause more vitriol among the fandom. So it'd be in Kishi's interests to use it on someone pairing-neutral.

[AzureWaters]

One thing I'm concerned about is that Kishi's making various references to 437. He's having Hinata do the same thing again, and its even mentioned by Neji specifically. I don't fault Hinata for trying to save Naruto, because she does like him and usually that comes with caring for his health/life.

When it comes to NH, I hope Kishi backs off a little. If he continues with this, then I will think NaruHina is his intended pairing, sorry to say.

[Chucky-kun]

Kishi: they see me trolling... They hating...

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

One thing I'm concerned about is that Kishi's making various references to 437. He's having Hinata do the same thing again, and its even mentioned by Neji specifically. I don't fault Hinata for trying to save Naruto, because she does like him and usually that comes with caring for his health/life.

When it comes to NH, I hope Kishi backs off a little. If he continues with this, then I will think NaruHina is his intended pairing, sorry to say.

that's it i'll come back after a new chapter is released.

[Chucky-kun]

that's it i'll come back after a new chapter is released.

This^^^^^^^ sorry guys but you're ignoring every bit of development ns has had that nh hasn't.

[PhenixElite]

One thing I'm concerned about is that Kishi's making various references to 437. He's having Hinata do the same thing again, and its even mentioned by Neji specifically. I don't fault Hinata for trying to save Naruto, because she does like him and usually that comes with caring for his health/life.

When it comes to NH, I hope Kishi backs off a little. If he continues with this, then I will think NaruHina is his intended pairing, sorry to say.

From my side, he can show as much Hinata as he wants a long as naruto shows no feelings for her I DONT CARE.
Uhh i have the feeling there will be a moment where nearly everybody gives up on the pairing (dont want to see this forum on that day), but then in the end we will have NS and all the raging and doubting was for nothing. Just keep cool till the end

[Don-kun]

One thing I'm concerned about is that Kishi's making various references to 437. He's having Hinata do the same thing again, and its even mentioned by Neji specifically. I don't fault Hinata for trying to save Naruto, because she does like him and usually that comes with caring for his health/life.

When it comes to NH, I hope Kishi backs off a little. If he continues with this, then I will think NaruHina is his intended pairing, sorry to say.

Sadly I have to agree with you, we already know that Hinata loves Naruto and that she like all the other are willing to sacrifice their life for him, Kishi didn't need to use Kiba to say that Naruto is acting strange or bragging because Hinata is there since that's not the case and now using a dying person the remind Naruto about Hinata dedication to him.

People might say that it's almost the same message Itachi gave Naruto, but it's obviously not the same, Naji never said me, Hinata and all your friend, he referred to his former self and Hinata, when Itachi gave that speech to Naruto he reflected on all his friends so is not the same.

This is way I said that since chapter 540 Kishi has being forcing Not Naru>>>>Hina, but instead Hina>>>Naru on us whenever Hinata gets any panel times and right now she is currently getting more than all the other Rookies.

This^^^^^^^ sorry guys but you're ignoring every bit of development ns has had that nh hasn't.

No Chucky-kun I don't believe in NH at all, if you want to know how am feelings right now, to tell you the truth I'm genuinely and a little annoy with this since almost the same happen with Naru>>>>Sasu.

We see obsession towards a person as something negative but the Japanese regard it as something atmirable and loyal to ha friend.

Edited by Don-kun, 19 December 2012 - 12:54 PM.

[Chucky-kun]

Well, considering we're on the topic of parallels, let me give you this. Kibas comment on hinata and naruto is the similar to sai's comment on Sakura and naruto. NEJI protecting hinata protecting naruto is the similar to kakashi protecting Sakura protecting naruto. So hurr durr durr. Narusaku development versus Naruhina development is like pein versus hinata.

Edited by Chucky-kun, 19 December 2012 - 12:54 PM.

[shadow_Uzumaki]

Page 9 on Mangastream, "I was hoping to attack them before they could finish talking...." HA! Hilarious.


Also, damn it, Neji.... You've just proven yourself a greater epitome of 'genius' than Sasuke....

[Don-kun]

Well, considering we're on the topic of parallels, let me give you this. Kibas comment on hinata and naruto is the similar to sai's comment on Sakura and naruto. NEJI protecting hinata protecting naruto is the similar to kakashi protecting Sakura protecting naruto. So hurr durr durr. Narusaku development versus Naruhina development is like pein versus hinata.

No you wrong NaruSaku development vs NaruHina development is like Pain-Nagato, Madara and Tobi with all the Kyuubi under is control against Inara, you don't need to give NH a weak vs strong parallel since it's a lot of strong arguments against NH when we compare it to NS.

You act like if am OK with this, on the contrary I cannot understand it.

NS moments --Click here to view--

Edited by Don-kun, 19 December 2012 - 01:07 PM.

[PhenixElite]

Sadly I have to agree with you, we already know that Hinata loves Naruto and that she like all the other are willing to sacrifice their life for him, Kishi didn't need to use Kiba to say that Naruto is acting strange or bragging because Hinata is there since that's not the case and now using a dying person the remind Naruto about Hinata dedication to him.

People might say that it's almost the same message Itachi gave Naruto, but it's obviously not the same, Naji never said me, Hinata and all your friend, he referred to his former self and Hinata, when Itachi gave that speech to Naruto he reflected on all his friends so is not the same.

This is way I said that since chapter 540 Kishi has being forcing Not Naru>>>>Hina, but instead Hina>>>Naru on us whenever Hinata gets any panel times and right now she is currently getting more than all the other Rookies.





No Chucky-kun I don't believe in NH at all, if you want to know how am feelings right now, to tell you the truth I'm genuinely and a little annoy with this since almost the same happen with Naru>>>>Sasu.

We see obsession towards a person as something negative but the Japanese regard it as something atmirable and loyal to ha friend.

So tell me then, what is the problem with hinata getting screentime? Its not destroying the story. Only because she gets to say 2 words in the latest chapters also doesnt mean that shes suddenly becoming some kind of main character, or is going to get together with naruto.
Its clear that kishi is giving her screentime, since its likely that this is one of the last arcs. There wont be much time for her in the last arc since it will be team 7 based.
So now hes showing and going to show more of hinata since she has a lot of fans and he character needs to be resolved, but does that fanservice mean that NH has higher chances then before? NO

Typical storytelling, nothing more.
Dont you think that it would be hard to change the feelings of the main character, when kishi showed him never change his feelings, goals and dreams for over 600 chapters.

[Namaenash]

Wow, 14 pages for a single chapter. That was a long read Time to join the fun.

It was a fine chapter, I think. Honestly I didn't see any clues that Neji will die, so, it was shocking nonetheless. At least his death is a fitting conclusion to his character. Though I personally think the better message to the readers (which is youth by large), is for him to stay long enough and patch the issues in Hyuuga clan. Too bad that path is gone now --based on the current fact, though there is a possibility for resurrection, as much as I hate it. Well, Neji Hyuuga, you'll be remembered.

I personally think that if and only if there'll be more deaths from the younger generation to protect Naruto. It'll make the possibility for Naruto to die in exchange to bring back his comrades' lives would be even plausible. Sorry. Somehow I love the idea of Naruto make the ultimate sacrifice. Lol. Either that, or somehow he'll go back to the past to fix the root cause of hatred cycle. Anything that position him as the one making ultimate sacrifice will do ;p lol.

I don't really worried about the NH "moment" (if you consider it as a moment). Part of it because I've prepared myself to read chunks of SS and NH moments, before it concludes to NS (cross-fingers). Also, as stated by others, the focus is on Neji bond towards Naruto. It also make an act of sacrificing one's life for Naruto is what others would do as well, not exclusively for Hinata or Sakura or whoever.

The other camp, of course, can take the panel as a 'proof'. Which is fine. But we also need to be aware that so far, the so called comments which support NH comes from Kiba and Neji. Which by large, hardly interacts or knows Naruto on the romance department. Logically they would know Hinata more (as a teammates or cousin). But, they are not on the same level as Sai, Yamato, Tsunade, or Kakashi in terms of understanding Naruto, particularly in romance department (I'm not saying that these characters are pairing fodders). Those who know Naruto better haven't made any comments about Hinata or any comments which support NH. Which means, I think Kishi is still not going to NH direction. But of course, I'm not Koshi and I might be wrong.lol.

Embrace yourself for yet another SS or NH 'moments'. Just bare with it and enjoy the show

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Wow, 14 pages for a single chapter. That was a long read Time to join the fun.

It was a fine chapter, I think. Honestly I didn't see any clues that Neji will die, so, it was shocking nonetheless. At least his death is a fitting conclusion to his character. Though I personally think the better message to the readers (which is youth by large), is for him to stay long enough and patch the issues in Hyuuga clan. Too bad that path is gone now --based on the current fact, though there is a possibility for resurrection, as much as I hate it. Well, Neji Hyuuga, you'll be remembered.

I personally think that if and only if there'll be more deaths from the younger generation to protect Naruto. It'll make the possibility for Naruto to die in exchange to bring back his comrades' lives would be even plausible. Sorry. Somehow I love the idea of Naruto make the ultimate sacrifice. Lol. Either that, or somehow he'll go back to the past to fix the root cause of hatred cycle. Anything that position him as the one making ultimate sacrifice will do ;p lol.

I don't really worried about the NH "moment" (if you consider it as a moment). Part of it because I've prepared myself to read chunks of SS and NH moments, before it concludes to NS (cross-fingers). Also, as stated by others, the focus is on Neji bond towards Naruto. It also make an act of sacrificing one's life for Naruto is what others would do as well, not exclusively for Hinata or Sakura or whoever.

The other camp, of course, can take the panel as a 'proof'. Which is fine. But we also need to be aware that so far, the so called comments which support NH comes from Kiba and Neji. Which by large, hardly interacts or knows Naruto on the romance department. Logically they would know Hinata more (as a teammates or cousin). But, they are not on the same level as Sai, Yamato, Tsunade, or Kakashi in terms of understanding Naruto, particularly in romance department (I'm not saying that these characters are pairing fodders). Those who know Naruto better haven't made any comments about Hinata or any comments which support NH. Which means, I think Kishi is still not going to NH direction. But of course, I'm not Koshi and I might be wrong.lol.

Embrace yourself for yet another SS or NH 'moments'. Just bare with it and enjoy the show

Well i dont want naruto to make the ultimate sacrifice because naruto already suffered enough, his parents sacrified their lives in order to naruto live, i think he deserve a happy ending not sacrificing himself without achieving the things he desired it's bad.

The one here that will sacrifice himself could be sasuke.
In this current arc we see that obito could crush the alliance army with a bijuu bomb if he want but looks like he wants to bring despair on naruto, in other words naruto will have time to use "talk no jutsu" and convert obito, i hate the ressurrection stuff on the series but he will bring neji back.

What i think that kishi is not on NH direction is the fact that he's giving hinata development but he's not giving a development of Naruto>>Hinata, like he did with Sakura(this development is not done yet), i never see Naruto blushing or having special feelings for hinata.

Edited by Dαrkrєrsŧ, 19 December 2012 - 02:36 PM.

[Namaenash]

What i think that kishi is not on NH direction is the fact that he's giving hinata development but he's not giving a development of Naruto>>Hinata, like he did with Sakura(this development is not done yet), i never see Naruto blushing or having special feelings for hinata.

Exactly. It was never shown or never implied that Naruto has a feeling for Hinata. From that angle, Kishi is still consistent. Even when Hinata tried to protect him before Neji took over, there's no expression or indication from Naruto that he's afraid of losing Hinata. Not the style that Kishi would choose, I think. It's still one-sided from Hinata.

So, don't give up just yet people ;p

[kidNinja]

All of you so-called NS fans who are giving up, either stay on board and support NS or PLEASE GO AWAY NOW AND DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT. You either ride and die for the ship or you quit. it's that simple.

NH fans don't have even half the stuff we have yet, they stay on through over 600 chapters. If I see more of this whining and quitting, I'm going to start calling people out.

Edited by kidNinja, 19 December 2012 - 02:46 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

All of you so-called NS fans who are giving up, either stay on board and support NS or PLEASE GO AWAY NOW AND DON'T LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT. You either ride and die for the ship or you quit. it's that simple.

NH fans don't have even half the stuff we have yet, they stay on through over 600 chapters. If I see more of this whining and quitting, I'm going to start calling people out.

that spoiler quite scared me, i think would be better if the mods forbade posting spoilers of a chapter without a reliable source.

[Nostradamus]

Kishi: they see me trolling... They hating...

Patrolling they tryin to catch me trollin dirty
Tryin to catch me trollin dirty
Tryin to catch me trollin dirty