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#281 PhenixElite

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:18 AM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 14 2012, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
well considering:
1) kishi's fear to kill any really important character
2)him always leaving cliff hangers
3)tsunade being very important to naruto
4) him always forgetting sakra manga development
5)splitting her into halfnwhich makes it difficukt to survive
6)the slug talking about sticking her back like she's some brokem pencil
7)her saying "my body can wait" instead of "my body isn't important right now"
8)the fact that it'll take minimum 2 chapters to find out what really happence and hence keep us eager dry.gif
9) she cheated death before

well it's like 46% for jer to live in my opiniom


She would survive if she wouldnt heal the kage but so it seems about shea dyin im pretty sure about that

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#282 Sakamaki Izayoi

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:21 AM

i will give 75% for tsunade to be alive because being torn apart does not mean certain death on this anime, obito had half of his body crushed and he's still alive.
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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:21 AM

if she can summon when she's cut in to half then she can live
kishi wouldn't dare kill her,he doesn't have it in him
besides,more impossible things have happened in the manga


#284 PhenixElite

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:32 AM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 14 2012, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i will give 75% for tsunade to be alive because being torn apart does not mean certain death on this anime, obito had half of his body crushed and he's still alive.


Guy i would just accept that shes about to die I know its kind of sad but maybe she gets revived like nagato did who knows but im totaly sure this time shes not going to survive

Just to know kishi also killed jiraya so he has no problem with killing important characters

Reason for edit: Phenix, I deleted your previous post as it was a near duplicate of this one. Please don't double post. If you'd like to add something after-the-fact, click the "edit" button and add to the original post. Thanks - trixie.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:39 AM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Sep 14 2012, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guy i would just accept that shes about to die I know its kind of sad but maybe she gets revived like nagato did who knows but im totaly sure this time shes not going to survive

Just to know kishi also killed jiraya so he has no problem with killing important characters

jiraya was dead in favor for naruto's development and his connection with sasuke
If she dies and later is revived i will be like this a_shifty.gif facepalm.png wow.gif seriously there is no need for people to keep being killed and revived all time

Edited by candycane-chan, 14 September 2012 - 11:40 AM.


#286 PhenixElite

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:46 AM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 14 2012, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
jiraya was dead in favor for naruto's development and his connection with sasuke
If she dies and later is revived i will be like this a_shifty.gif facepalm.png wow.gif seriously there is no need for people to keep being killed and revived all time


Yeah maybe true but you can also see the positive side of it naruto can be hokage and sakura get her development so i dont see any problem with kishis decition. Maybe she will survive but why thrb kishi needed to cut her in 2 pieces?

He could also just show her injured like the other kage

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:53 AM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Sep 14 2012, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yeah maybe true but you can also see the positive side of it naruto can be hokage and sakura get her development so i dont see any problem with kishis decition. Maybe she will survive but why thrb kishi needed to cut her in 2 pieces?

He could also just show her injured like the other kage

cut her into two to add suspense because when people see her they're like " what the.....she is sooooo dead"
and it's more likely that kakashi will become hokage and not naruto

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 14 2012, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
cut her into two to add suspense because when people see her they're like " what the.....she is sooooo dead"
and it's more likely that kakashi will become hokage and not naruto


Dont think so cause of this reasons:

1. Kakashi dont wants to be hokage
2. No one will be hokage till the war ends because they have no time cause of madara
3. If kakashi becomes hokage after war there will be not enoug time left till the manga end for naruto to become hokage

Check??

Or its going a totally other way like naruto becoming new sage and ruleing ove the whole shinobi world.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:08 PM

QUOTE (PhenixElite @ Sep 14 2012, 03:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dont think so cause of this reasons:

1. Kakashi dont wants to be hokage
2. No one will be hokage till the war ends because they have no time cause of madara
3. If kakashi becomes hokage after war there will be not enoug time left till the manga end for naruto to become hokage

Check??

Or its going a totally other way like naruto becoming new sage and ruleing ove the whole shinobi world.

i don't know how it'll happen I mean yeah naruto is a heroe and all but he can't become hokage when he is so emotional tongue.gif hell,if he becomes hokage he'll have ro protect the village from sasuke but he seems willing to throw his like away in this fight when a hokage shouldn't do that knowing that other people BESIDES sasuke need him

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:15 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 14 2012, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i don't know how it'll happen I mean yeah naruto is a heroe and all but he can't become hokage when he is so emotional tongue.gif hell,if he becomes hokage he'll have ro protect the village from sasuke but he seems willing to throw his like away in this fight when a hokage shouldn't do that knowing that other people BESIDES sasuke need him


He wont become hokage before he fighted with sasuke and also naruto is the strongest ninja of all villages and hes the one of the prophecy whos goin to win the war so who could be a better hokage them him?

Weak kakshi?? Dont think so he couldnt even defeat one of the pains

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#291 candycane-chan

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:38 PM

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:52 PM

IF Tsunade dies, Naruto won't become hokage before the fight between him and Sasuke at least and IF Tsunade will still be alive, she could in the future time step aside and let Naruto be hokage. That the way i see it for the story plus Tsunade doesn't have to die in order for Naruto to become hokage.

Edited by T XD, 14 September 2012 - 12:53 PM.


#293 candycane-chan

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 12:54 PM

/\ my point exactly ,if she lives i think there is more chance for him to be hokage

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 14 2012, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
/\ my point exactly ,if she lives i think there is more chance for him to be hokage


Yes but i wouldnt say that theres more chance for him
If shes alive i think it doesnt matter if shes alive or dies his chances are the same.
Because i dont think that i should be a big deal to make the savior of the world hokage.

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#295 candycane-chan

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 01:12 PM

/\ we'll talk about that when the war is over and if kishi will envolve sasuke in this,he probably won't but it still has a small chance in happening

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 04:04 PM

QUOTE (James S Cassidy @ Sep 14 2012, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
*sigh* This is getting frustrating.

Okay, look. I want to explain this cause either people are not reading right or they are not understanding the concept.

I am NOT saying this will happen. I am NOT saying that is what is planned and I am NOT saying that it is a logical way I am thinking. What I am saying is that this is how some people see the event happening OR the fear of the event happening in this way. There are some people who will always like things or think things regardless if it is an illogical way of thinking. Like how people like crack pairings or looking at stuff that doesn't really exist. I can't really explain why people think this way, but some just do.

The fact that this is "impractical" or "illogical" seems like a very moot point since as it is said that Kishi can write whatever he wishes. And that kind of impractical illogical nonsense has been written in stories before. Whether or not he decides to do that is not up to me, but we all agree that it is an unlikely outcome.

Yes, it CAN be just friendship, it CAN renew bonds of love and yes, it CAN just be nothing, but Sakura learning how both Naruto or Sasuke feel.

I know, but the logic seems to be flawed in so many ways, it just seems ludicrous how some people are making these astronomical leaps from Tsunade dying = Sakura falling in love with Sasuke, ignoring the irony that he was partially responsible for Tsunade's death.

Losing Jiraiya helped Naruto understand Sasuke more, but that is added to their brotherly bond and their whole history of loneliness. Sakura isn't even close, she is always only one of many faces in Sasuke's flashbacks, but never alone.

It's not about impracticality, but if we're going down this hysterical theory here, then narusasu must already be canon. If anything can happen, then nevermind the fact that yaoi doesn't happen in shonen.

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 14 2012, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto said that he was feeling the same way as sakura "heartbroken" then he blushes and says it's my promise i will bring he back, the fact is he loves her too much and dont want to see her suffering he was forced due to his emotions towards her to make the promise, later on part 2 naruto find a true purpose of why he wants to bring sasuke back and this does not concern about the promise.


James S -> Since losing tsunade, makes her understand loneliness and pain, if she really need to understand sasuke her parents must die too.
naruto lose so many things and suffered a lot of pain to understand sasuke, and sakura with the death of one single person makes her understand both sasuke and naruto i'll say this is bs and i'll quit NS because i know that she will renew her feelings for sasuke and we go back to part 1.


The thing is, you can't exactly pin the responsibility of heartbreak on Sakura because she never knew about his genuine feelings.

I am flankly disappointed at how some members seem to think Naruto and Sakura's relationship will all topple over because Sakura will now become fixiated on Sasuke again for some reason. Sakura has never hated Sasuke for his obsession with revenge, so having Tsunade die ultimately changes nothing.

Edited by Nefertieh, 14 September 2012 - 04:38 PM.

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 05:13 PM

QUOTE (dovahkiin @ Sep 14 2012, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
i will give 75% for tsunade to be alive because being torn apart does not mean certain death on this anime, obito had half of his body crushed and he's still alive.


QUOTE (candycane-chan @ Sep 14 2012, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
if she can summon when she's cut in to half then she can live
kishi wouldn't dare kill her,he doesn't have it in him
besides,more impossible things have happened in the manga


I think even Kishimoto realizes that it would be a hard pill to swallow if Tsunade heals herself and the other Kages. And then they get back into the fight against Madara like nothing happened, just after being shown torn apart like tissue paper. There has to be some consequences in war. Not everyone can walk away.

Everything is set up for Tsunade to die. She saw Dan one last time. She is about to save the Kages instead of saving herself. If anything this is the best way for Tsunade to go out since it elevates her as a character. If she could save both the Kages and herself she just becomes a living Phoenix Down. A plot device without any drama. But giving her life up to save others is a choice. The choice a heroic character makes knowing it means their own death.

Edited by Deej, 14 September 2012 - 05:14 PM.


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Posted 14 September 2012 - 05:27 PM

QUOTE (Deej @ Sep 14 2012, 08:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think even Kishimoto realizes that it would be a hard pill to swallow if Tsunade heals herself and the other Kages. And then they get back into the fight against Madara like nothing happened, just after being shown torn apart like tissue paper. There has to be some consequences in war. Not everyone can walk away.

Everything is set up for Tsunade to die. She saw Dan one last time. She is about to save the Kages instead of saving herself. If anything this is the best way for Tsunade to go out since it elevates her as a character. If she could save both the Kages and herself she just becomes a living Phoenix Down. A plot device without any drama. But giving her life up to save others is a choice. The choice a heroic character makes knowing it means their own death.

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I don't think she'll be the one to heal herself IF she survives,I was hoping It'll be sakura but noy gonna happen,so someone is bound to come after her
Anf didn't dan tell her that he doesn't want her to come to him right now

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Posted 14 September 2012 - 05:43 PM

It could be that Sakura saves her, and this is the "heroic" thing he had in mind for Sakura.

For Tsunade to die, there has to be a big pay off, a big reason for it.... So what impact would her death make on the plot? Uh, none really. For Sakura to persevere, Tsunade's death is not required. She doesn't have the whole "surpassing generations" thing going on. In fact, I think Sakura would have a harder time dealing with it if Tsunade did die on her watch, than drawing strength from it and overcoming it.

If she dies at this point, then I think it will be more about Kishimoto retiring her character rather than giving a bump to Sakura's development. (Sort of like Konan's death. There was simply nowhere else to go with it in the plot.)

There's definitely some mixed foreshadowing as well. On the one hand you have Tsunade's ominous speeches about medic nins and how they can't die because the team depends on them, etc. But on the other hand, you have Dan's kiss, and telling her to live a long life.

I think Tsunade's going to live. I think she's going to resurrect the kages, then at the moment where she's almost completely spent, Sakura will come and save her, thereby proving she has surpassed her master by restoring Tsunade's life when no one else could. All of Sakura's foreshadowing points to that. What good would it be for Chiyo to praise Sakura as better than Tsunade, just to end up with Sakura not be able to save Tsunade?



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Posted 14 September 2012 - 05:52 PM

/\ how do you think sakura will reach tsunade




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