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Posted 28 August 2014 - 06:57 PM

i don't know why, but i kinda like when you or KnS comment...i think is because you both have Minato...i feel attracted, wth

  
Oh stop it you, you're making me blush :chuckle: lol thanks for the compliment!

I like special drinks more. Like vodka with fruits... you know, caipirinha hehe.

I don't mind those. Anything with vodka is fine with me. I just prefer the plain vodka for some reason, must be the Russian in me lol

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 06:59 PM

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 07:05 PM

80% o_O....myy gooddd...its as good as raw alcohol!

Hahhaha That seems about right LOL XD  .Anything that is above 55-6 % its hard to drink If you ask me the best Rakia is the one made with 50 to 54 %  since it doesn't put you down right away and  its more lighter .


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 07:06 PM

Is it good ? Best kitten ever it burns like HELL!!! and will make you fly just from three cups since it contains 55% of alcohol  .  I make that kitten at home currently I have a stash of  1 ton   :ermm: .

 

It's hard for me to fly, I have a good tolerance  :chuckle: , guess I'm gonna try this stuff some time. Are you an alcoholic? lol have a ton of 55% stuff  is not for the weak! :hehehe:  


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 07:20 PM

 

It's hard for me to fly, I have a good tolerance  :chuckle: , guess I'm gonna try this stuff some time. Are you an alcoholic? lol have a ton of 55% stuff  is not for the weak! :hehehe:  

Trust me not even good tolerance is enough for this kitten :hehehe:  , I've been drinking this kitten since I was 14 years old and till this day it can still put me down usually it starts when I drink half liter of it . But no I'm not an alcoholic LOL  that's something usual at my place 1t is nothing for us after all I'm not alone there is my Father and Grandfather  and my whole family cousins and all that   :P .

 

But its also god if you drink a cup or two every morning its very healthy it makes your blood circulate better  so you see its even medically good  :P .


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 07:42 PM

  
Oh stop it you, you're making me blush :chuckle: lol thanks for the compliment!

Wanna make a Naruto? 

if u kno what i mean

 

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 07:47 PM

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 08:29 PM

 

 

"my problem with it is that now that Sakura wont be picking Naruto because she loves him more instead it seems more like she is picking Naruto because Sasuke is just flat out not good for her because he's batsh*t crazy." 

 

You mean... she loves the person she considers a batsh crazy MORE? Logic? Where are you, my friend? Do you know what love is? Sakura was never able to love Sasuke for real since she doesn't even understand him or know anything about him. 

 

I corrected "some" of the mistakes you made on that list. 

What do you think the chances are of Naruto being the "someone else" she was talking about? Because the way the anime portrayed it is really confusing

 

in the episode where they're talking  it heavily implies that its Sasuke because we see that she feels sad  just talking about him, but several episodes later she refers to him as "someone she used to love"


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 08:40 PM

so, you can't understand why Sakura is feeling like that if she doesn't love Sasuke anymore

it's not like he's still important to her, because he was the one she used to love, because she considers him a comrade and because she feels like it's her duty to save him from darkness

it's not like anyone could feel like that


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 08:44 PM

What do you think the chances are of Naruto being the "someone else" she was talking about? Because the way the anime portrayed it is really confusing

 

in the episode where they're talking  it heavily implies that its Sasuke because we see that she feels sad  just talking about him, but several episodes later she refers to him as "someone she used to love"

She's probably moved on from Sasuke anyway



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Posted 28 August 2014 - 10:04 PM

What do you think the chances are of Naruto being the "someone else" she was talking about? Because the way the anime portrayed it is really confusing

 

in the episode where they're talking  it heavily implies that its Sasuke because we see that she feels sad  just talking about him, but several episodes later she refers to him as "someone she used to love"

 

The anime is not an accurate representation of the source material.

 

Anyways, I've been thinking a lot about the pairing, the way it's developed, rival pairings etc, and I'd say out of all the pairings I've supported, this one has always been the one where I have never been sure it'd be endgame 100% (despite what I've posted here and on other forums).

 

I can understand the doubt members here have when it comes to NaruSaku's chances of being endgame. The facts are that Sakura has not fully moved on from Sasuke (or atleast it hasn't been made obvious that she has), Hinata is a character that is a viable alternative to Naruto, and should Sasuke return to the village with things returning to the old days, then it's entirely possible that he could pursue a relationship with Sakura. These are things are what worries most fans of the ship (and what has worried me on some occasions). With the sheer amount of western support (with it outclassing NaruSaku as a ship), sometimes I get the feeling that they're seeing something I haven't, cause based on what the manga has given us, I just can't see why SasuSaku and NaruHina can still have so many followers. Kishimoto still throwing hints towards both pairings don't help either.

 

However....

 

Most of these fears are easily elevated when you also consider the following things:

 

At this stage in the manga, neither Naruto nor Sasuke have any interest in pursuing a relationship with Hinata and Sakura. Both girls have confessed to them and neither have been interested in taking their relationship further. The manga is close to ending and with no sort of foundation laid out the chances of them being endgame (outside of horrendous writing and pandering to western support) is slim.

 

The conditions for Naruto to return Hinata's feelings are that he needs to redeem Sasuke and confess to Sakura, for her to reject him. Then the foundation for another pairing with another character needs to be built on screen so the reader has a good idea of who will end up with who.

 

Such a relationship has not been built with NaruHina and SasuSaku. Western supporters seem to believe that all that matters is who the girl likes, while disregarding what the males in the pairing actually want out of a partner. I think this a dangerous way of thinking, as it's not a relationship if only one person wants it. Takes two to tango and Naruto/Sasuke are simply not interest. I concede that this has also been the case with my own pairing however atleast NarusSaku has the luxury of the relationship building up over the course of part 2.

 

For any pairing to work both people need to want it. We already know Naruto loves Sakura, and Sakura has shown that she might be harboring feelings for him (which has been hinted at by the characters in the story). At best, Sasuke acknowledges Sakura as a friend/ally on the battlefield while with Naruto it's the same with Hinata. Not that I am downplaying their feelings for the boys, but the foundation is weak when neither want anything more than friendship.

 

After Pein's attack on Konoha was the perfect time for some response from Naruto to Hinata about her confession. People that say he hasn't had time to respond because of the war conveniently ignore this fact. Kishimoto could have built up the pairing from that moment as there was downtime and nothing serious going on, but instead of doing that, he had Sakura hug Naruto infront of the entire village in a romantic way and then followed up with him spending time with her. Sorry but the war being an excuse for Naruto not responding to Hinata does not hold up.

 

Sasuke is not stupid. He knew how Sakura felt about him in part 1, he just wasn't interested in returning those feelings. That is a fact. If he has "secret feelings" as SasuSaku supporters claim, then either Kishimoto has done a really poor job of showing it or they are twisting what has been shown to us to suit their pairing (most likely this). Despite having a teammate he's spent time with confess to him, he still left the village with the enemy that just attacked your village. He prioritized leaving in pursuit of power and revenge (even going as far as to side with the enemy of the village) over living a life of peace with a girl that loves him, so how can you sit there and claim Sasuke has secret feelings for Sakura. lol.

 

Saying he hasn't been himself/consumed with rage also doesn't hold up when on two occasions he made two attempts at Sakura's live. This was their first reunion when Sakura proceeded to attack Sasuke and when Sasuke was about to use Kirin to kill everyone on the field (only to be stopped by Orochimaru). I won't mention when he was completely consumed with hate as there is no need, we all know what happened, but I will mention the war arc where Sasuke has made no apologies to Sakura for trying to take her life but has berated her as a ninja as well as prioritizing killing the enemy over her safety. He's quiet happy sacrificing her if it means getting a shot at the enemy (something Naruto sensed) so I am having a hard time seeing how Sasuke has feelings for Sakura when you consider everything I've said.

 

The relationship does not develop if only one person is carrying the ship. Same applies to NaruHina.

 

I don't understand how you can be a Sakura fan and still support SasuSaku, cause if you call yourself a Sakura fan, then I don't know why you would support a pairing where the male doesn't respect her as a ninja or a person, has made several attempts at her life and in general is not interested in pursuing any relationship. If you still call yourself a Sakura fan and a SS supporter,, then you're a crappy one. Sorry but that's just how I feel.

 

Can't really say a lot about NaruHina. It's all Hinata. Naruto hasn't shown any interest, at all. Comparing her to Kushina even after Minato, her husband, has made the comparison between her and Sakura is silly. The author has outright said through other characters that Sakura and Kushina are similar. The point of Hinata not being around when Minato said that and that Minato was mistaken IS IRRELEVANT. Kishimoto set up that scenario to make the comparison. You are just twisting aspects of Kushina's character (which exists in most characters in the story) and applying them to Hinata because it's convenient to your preferred ship, no matter how wrong and silly it is. Your analysis and opinions on whether Hinata is more like Kushina than Sakura has not standing anymore as the only character that can even make the comparison has shot your argument down.

 

I especially like the argument that Naruto and Hinata have supported eachother in battle countless times. I would like said battles with supporting manga pages where this has been the case, as from what I've read, there has only been 3 times this has been the case Pein's arc (though I wouldn't really count this) and the war (twice, when she nearly died again and that time when they were boosted by Naruto's chakra). Naruto and Sakura are teammates and have gone on more missions and supported eachother more times than that. I can also recall times where Hinata has doubted Naruto's abilities as a ninja (Chunin exams, followed by Sakura and Kakashi still having confidence in Naruto winning) and when they first met up with Obito. At that time Sakura had to tell her to relax and point out that it'd take more than that to beat Naruto.

 

BUT, even with all of this, as the outlook of both pairings seem bleak, I can't help but shake this feeling at the back of my mind that Kishimoto will end up pairing Naruto and Sasuke with the girls that have feelings for them. Maybe it's staying here for too long, or being ganged up on by both supporters that has done this, but I wish Kishimoto would just spell out what the endgame pairing is so we can all move on from this, as being a supporter since 2006 has made me exhausted/tired of the constant abuse.

 

Just throwing random thoughts out there.


Edited by Silent Storm, 29 August 2014 - 12:23 AM.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 10:17 PM

Am I the only one who watches Bollywood movies and watch all the songs and think I see Naruto and Sakura singing and dancing?

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 10:25 PM

This kitten again.Why there's no Goddess sketch there? :down:


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 10:26 PM

This bullsh** again.Why there's no Goddess sketch there? :down:

Cuz he's busy being the massive troll lol.

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Posted 28 August 2014 - 10:28 PM

so, you can't understand why Sakura is feeling like that if she doesn't love Sasuke anymore

it's not like he's still important to her, because he was the one she used to love, because she considers him a comrade and because she feels like it's her duty to save him from darkness

it's not like anyone could feel like that

I can't understand the transition or what the point of 540 was, kicking NS in the balls like that if she ends up getting over Sasuke afterwords anyway. 

It shows that she would still want to be with Sasuke romantically but because he's an kitten, she decides he's not an option and the only one left is Naruto. its like if there 3 medals: Gold (Sasuke), Silver (Naruto), and Bronze (Lee). With 540 it shows that she still considers Sasuke a gold metal but now we find out she has no romantic interest in him so the gold medal is thrown out the window and all we have left is silver and bronze. 


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 10:28 PM

Cuz he's busy being the massive troll lol.

Yeah. :wot:


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 10:36 PM

I can't understand the transition or what the point of 540 was, kicking NS in the balls like that if she ends up getting over Sasuke afterwords anyway. 

It shows that she would still want to be with Sasuke romantically but because he's an a**hole, she decides he's not an option and the only one left is Naruto. its like if there 3 medals: Gold (Sasuke), Silver (Naruto), and Bronze (Lee). With 540 it shows that she still considers Sasuke a gold metal but now we find out she has no romantic interest in him so the gold medal is thrown out the window and all we have left is silver and bronze. 

 

For me chapter 540 show Sakura's feelings changed toward sasuke it's not proved she still loves him as SS think

The feelings aren't like before (remember sasuke with his look and flames is indicating negative thing )



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Posted 28 August 2014 - 10:49 PM

Its not her loving him I have a problem with, its referring to him as the "someone else she loves" after supposedly a truthful confession to Naruto and acknowledging that he's better for her. 


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 11:14 PM

Am I the only one who watches Bollywood movies and watch all the songs and think I see Naruto and Sakura singing and dancing?

Yes you're the only one.


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Posted 28 August 2014 - 11:26 PM

man what the hell Bollywood is?




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