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#2961 dl316bh

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 03:52 AM

QUOTE (Sakura Blossoms @ Dec 5 2011, 10:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And also too bad for PS3 owners, I'm actually *very* excited and looking forward to what Xbox Live is gonna be rolling out starting tomorrow! 8D

http://www.xbox.com/...i...941174&tid=

Not really that bad for us or at least me. I've already got all of that s*** with basic cable and internet and I imagine most people do, so it's kind of a non issue. I guess it makes for a nice talking point - "look at all the things we can do" - but when you sit and look at the features they're fairly redundant. If you've got a Gold account, you probably have a computer and working internet - and cable, given modern day package deals - so it kind of comes off as all sound, no fury. Netflix streaming may be worth it, but they already had that.

But hey, whatever floats your boat. Long as your happy with it, that's cool. I just personally don't think it's a big deal.

I just stick with my PS3. Free online trumps a bunch of features I get anyways. Haven't even turned on my 360 and logged on in months. Though that may change, since I've got Fable III to play.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 02:47 AM

Miyamoto is stepping down from his current position at Nintendo. Going to work on smaller projects.

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REDWOOD CITY, Calif. — The creator of Super Mario Bros. and The Legend of Zelda will step down from his current position at Nintendo but remain with the company to work on smaller, more personal projects, Wired.com has learned.

In an exclusive interview with Wired.com on Wednesday, the 59-year-old head of Nintendo’s game design department said that he will move away from supervising the development of massive games like this year’s Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword and Super Mario 3D Land, passing the torch to the younger designers in the company and working on projects that won’t take as long to complete.

“Inside our office, I’ve been recently declaring, ‘I’m going to retire, I’m going to retire,’” Miyamoto said through his interpreter. “I’m not saying that I’m going to retire from game development altogether. What I mean by retiring is, retiring from my current position.”

“What I really want to do is be in the forefront of game development once again myself,” Miyamoto said. “Probably working on a smaller project with even younger developers. Or I might be interested in making something that I can make myself, by myself. Something really small.”

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 05:55 PM

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Miyamoto is stepping down from his current position at Nintendo. Going to work on smaller projects.



Whoops! Hold the phone, 'tis a misunderstanding

http://www.guardian....g-says-nintendo

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 08:34 PM

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Whoops! Hold the phone, 'tis a misunderstanding

http://www.guardian....g-says-nintendo

That's good, because I have a sneaking suspicion Nintendo will implode without the Miya man.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 10:00 PM

QUOTE (dl316bh @ Dec 8 2011, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's good, because I have a sneaking suspicion Nintendo will implode without the Miya man.

Doubtful. Worst that'll happen is they stop producing games internationally. They might go the way of Sega a couple decades down the road, but even that seems pretty unlikely. The company's always gonna have plenty of diehard fans to keep it afloat.

I'm glad Miyamoto's staying around though. happy.gif Everything he touches seems to turn to gold. I'm already regretting waiting till X-mas to get Skyward Sword.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:00 PM

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Doubtful. Worst that'll happen is they stop producing games internationally. They might go the way of Sega a couple decades down the road, but even that seems pretty unlikely. The company's always gonna have plenty of diehard fans to keep it afloat.

I'm glad Miyamoto's staying around though. happy.gif Everything he touches seems to turn to gold. I'm already regretting waiting till X-mas to get Skyward Sword.

Thing is, Miyamoto is behind most of their top shelf titles these days. Nintendo's basically alienated most third party support this generation, so first party exclusives have been a lot of what they've relied on. Like you said, just about anything he touches turns up gold, so what happens when he's gone?

As for Zelda, I'm probably skipping Skyward Sword. Never been a huge Zelda fan. The only ones I genuinely liked were II, A Link to the Past and Twilight Princess. Hell, I didn't even finish LttP; got bored quick once I got to the dark world.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 11:03 PM

QUOTE (Boom...Winning @ Dec 8 2011, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm glad Miyamoto's staying around though. happy.gif Everything he touches seems to turn to gold. I'm already regretting waiting till X-mas to get Skyward Sword.


Rehashed gold, you mean? DOHOHOHOH... I kid.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 12:36 AM

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Thing is, Miyamoto is behind most of their top shelf titles these days. Nintendo's basically alienated most third party support this generation, so first party exclusives have been a lot of what they've relied on. Like you said, just about anything he touches turns up gold, so what happens when he's gone?

As for Zelda, I'm probably skipping Skyward Sword. Never been a huge Zelda fan. The only ones I genuinely liked were II, A Link to the Past and Twilight Princess. Hell, I didn't even finish LttP; got bored quick once I got to the dark world.

Miyamoto's an important figure in Nintendo's history, but him leaving at this point wouldn't really be a nail in the coffin for the company itself. From what I've read, he hasn't really taken a proactive part in game designing in quite a while, he tends to just offer suggestions for new games and features to add to existing projects. He set up the foundation, and it's not as if the company's going to act like a headless chicken after he leaves. I've done work with Japanese companies in the past, and it's absolutely astounding how far ahead of us (at least in the U.S.) their business model is. No company is set up to revolve around one person.

Also, lack of third-party support might affect it in the international market, but from the numbers I've read I really doubt they're in trouble there.
Console unit sales --Click here to view--
Worldwide sales figures
Wii – 89.36 million as of 30 September 2011
Xbox 360 – 57.6 million as of 4 November 2011
PlayStation 3 – 56 million as of 2 November 2011

Japan sales figures
Wii – 11,534,590 as of 1 April 2011
PlayStation 3 – 6,341,950 as of 1 April 2011
Xbox 360 – 1,448,665 as of 1 April 2011

Europe sales figures
Wii – 24.9 million as of December 2010
PlayStation 3 – 19.7 million as of December 2010
Xbox 360 – 13.7 million as of December 2010

United States sales figures
Wii – 30 million as of 10 August 2010
Xbox 360 – 18.6 million as of 31 December 2009
PlayStation 3 - nearly 12 million as of 14 April 2010

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I'm not including handheld sales, since last time I checked, Nintendo dominated that market (the PSP is actually a little more popular in Japan, but it's still almost doubled in units sold by the Nintendo DS and its iterations). Of course, there's other factors at play, since many households have more than one console, and units varied drastically in price at different points in time, but it certainly proves that Nintendo's in no trouble sales-wise at this point. Disappointed die-hard gamers doesn't exactly equate to bad business, especially for a company that's put so much stock in the casual gamer market. Love it or hate it, one thing's for certain. It works.

I don't have much to say regarding Zelda, since that's your own opinion. Personally, though, I have yet to play a Zelda game that truly disappointed me.

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Rehashed gold, you mean? DOHOHOHOH... I kid.


Edited by Boom...Winning, 09 December 2011 - 01:21 AM.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 09:24 PM

I just saw the trailer for Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, it looks absolutely INSANE. It's being developed by Platinum Games, so the gameplay should be spectacular, here's hoping that the PS3 version won't be a mess.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 10:37 PM

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I don't have much to say regarding Zelda, since that's your own opinion. Personally, though, I have yet to play a Zelda game that truly disappointed me.

It's just never done anything for me. None of them are bad, perse - and they're all definitely well put together games - but nothing about it's ever really hooked me. Twilight Princess was the exception; I loved the HELL out of that game.

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Also, lack of third-party support might affect it in the international market, but from the numbers I've read I really doubt they're in trouble there.

System-wise? No. Not in trouble. They caught lightning in a bottle with the Wii. We'll see if it holds past this generation though; next generation the chickens may come home to roost.
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Posted 10 December 2011 - 11:31 PM

QUOTE (dl316bh @ Dec 10 2011, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It's just never done anything for me. None of them are bad, perse - and they're all definitely well put together games - but nothing about it's ever really hooked me. Twilight Princess was the exception; I loved the HELL out of that game.

No worries, it'd be boring if everyone liked the same thing. Sorry if I sounded rude. sweat.gif

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System-wise? No. Not in trouble. They caught lightning in a bottle with the Wii. We'll see if it holds past this generation though; next generation the chickens may come home to roost.

I agree, that's why I mentioned in my earlier post that they might stop producing games outside out of Japan in the distant future. One of the biggest factors I've noticed is the re-emerging popularity of FPS and M-rated games in the past couple years. Sony and Microsoft have a bigger presence in the Western market outside of gaming, but Nintendo is kind of bogged down by extremely strict gun policies that are present in Japan, as well as the decency mandates they've pushing since the Yamauchi days. From the numbers I've read, it's hardly an issue in the Japanese market, but they're really losing a lot of potential business in the Western world.

From what I've seen, though, Nintendo will probably pull through. In the Western world, Nintendo isn't really too involved in the "console war". Some people like to include it, but a higher percentage of console owners with multiple systems seem to have a Wii, as well as one of the other two current-gen consoles. On top of that, Nintendo still has the strongest presense in the handheld market. A couple months ago, I'd say that the handheld console war would be a point of worry for Nintendo, but considering the huge sales jump the 3DS has made in the past couple months (over 200% in November in the U.S. alone, it's already surpassed the DS' first year record), I'd say that worry is unwarranted now.

But there's so many factors at play, it's really hard to predict what will happen.

Edited by Boom...Winning, 10 December 2011 - 11:32 PM.

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Posted 10 December 2011 - 11:39 PM

I'm not happy that they change the US release date of FFXIII-2 from January 31 to February 3 it sucks. On the bright side Tales of Graces will be release on the PS3 this upcoming spring.

Edited by Gravenimage, 10 December 2011 - 11:40 PM.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 01:08 AM

VGAs are live! Watch now!

(Watching for game premiers)

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 02:24 AM

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No worries, it'd be boring if everyone liked the same thing. Sorry if I sounded rude. sweat.gif

You didn't. Or at least I didn't take it that way. I just felt like elaborating. I honestly don't have anything against the Zelda games beyond some personal gripes, so I've got no problem saying that I hope you enjoy Skyward Sword.

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But there's so many factors at play, it's really hard to predict what will happen.

True. I think worst case scenario Nintendo would simply retreat to the handheld market. It has Japan in a vice grip and handhelds are always popular over here. I don't picture them completely abandoning the west though.

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I'm not happy that they change the US release date of FFXIII-2 from January 31 to February 3 it sucks.

... Dude, that's only three days later.

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VGAs are live! Watch now!

You kiddin' man? That time would be better spent watching tomatoes grow much less anything else. If anything interesting shows up I can just check the trailers online afterwards.

Edited by dl316bh, 11 December 2011 - 02:26 AM.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 02:55 AM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Dec 10 2011, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not happy that they change the US release date of FFXIII-2 from January 31 to February 3 it sucks. On the bright side Tales of Graces will be release on the PS3 this upcoming spring.


..............Another 3 days won't kill you, would it?

I'm pretty sure waiting for Versus XIII to even come out would be even more painful.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 02:56 AM

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I'm pretty sure waiting for Versus XIII to even come out would be even more painful.

You may as well give up on that one at this point.

Pretty sure we'll see XIII-3 before that one.

It's pretty much the Duke Nukem Forever of RPG's.
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 02:58 AM

QUOTE (dl316bh @ Dec 10 2011, 09:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You may as well give up on that one at this point.

Pretty sure we'll see XIII-3 before that one.

It's pretty much the Duke Nukem Forever of RPG's.


you're not joking either, they don't seem to be moving forward at all. They are hung up on FFXlll: The sequels no one asked for.
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Posted 11 December 2011 - 03:36 AM

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you're not joking either, they don't seem to be moving forward at all. They are hung up on FFXlll: The sequels no one asked for.

It makes sound business sense. The engine for XIII is done. Squenix is hurting bad. A direct sequel to the iteration people didn't like could earn them big bucks and maybe win back trust.

Problem: No one really wants the sequels save a few; I honestly have not seen people talking about it much, compared to XIII which people were hyped for.

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 05:57 PM

I cant wait for the sequels to be honest...

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Posted 11 December 2011 - 08:39 PM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Dec 10 2011, 06:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
..............Another 3 days won't kill you, would it?

I'm pretty sure waiting for Versus XIII to even come out would be even more painful.


I haven't lifted my hopes up on versus I know it won't be a WHILE until its release but it really bothers me that I have to wait three more days for XIII-2 I have the days count on my calendar. dry.gif
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