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[Traci]

It was the second time around. Thanks for the input.

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i can tell your being scaracastic but in reality naruto has given hinata the required attention, also there off screen you have to account for...its unlikely hinatas confession went on deff ears and naruto hasnt shown or reaffirmed any feeling towards sakura you can see the difference in when his clones arrived on the battle feild and save them both...naruto saving hinata showed more affection than when he just asked sakura if she was okay. he would make hinata state her resolve only to have her be rejected by naruto. Hinata will succeed where sakura failed with sasuke. because i think after this arc naruto will take the 1st hokages scroll and jutsu of his parents to prepare for his show down with edo madara. he will fool everyone accept hinata with a clone and will want to go with him and will suceed at convincing him to take her with him to which is likely to be sage mountain. thats what i see

And guys, tell me what's wrong with this posting... I got this off a NH shipper who is debating against my friend RamenRennegade.

Um, wow. This just takes the cake.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

It was the second time around. Thanks for the input.

And guys, tell me what's wrong with this posting... I got this off a NH shipper who is debating against my friend RamenRennegade.

Firstly, he can't say it happened off-screen. That is purely speculation so no one can say that. Secondly, after Hinata's confession, the manga showed us he would rather spend time with Sakura than confront Hinata over her confession. In other words, he's avoiding it. Which tells me Naruto is afraid to reject her in fear of hurting her. Seems in character for him. Comparing the Naruto saving Hinata and Sakura scenes? Let's see: Naruto looked directly at Sakura, still called her Sakura-chan, and grinned at her. With Hinata, he asked if she was alright but he wasn't looking directly at her and only continued to talk to Hinata when he noticed her unconfident attitude. Completely ignoring Hinata's confession. If he really wanted to, he could've said "Let's talk later." But he didn't and Naruto treated her the way he treats any of his friends. That's the truth.

Why does Hinata have to succede? She's a side character. To put it bluntly, should we care? This could easily be a red herring and NaruHina was still shown to be one-sided. It's a double standard since both Naruto and Sakura have expressed a desire to be with someone in the past, so that means NaruSaku or SasuSaku will happen

As for that NH fan's prediction, seems like he/she is enlarging Hinata's actual importance to Naruto as well as the plot. Sounds like something the main heroine(Sakura) would do, not a side character. Well, that was easy .

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Agree. Although, my reply was much harsher hahaha

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

Agree. Although, my reply was much harsher hahaha

Well I try to be more polite when I'm debating with other fanbases . Yeah SasuSaku and NaruHina theories are annoying and I have snapped at them for being so stubborn before . It's hard not to. NH arguments are so .... meh

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Well I try to be more polite when I'm debating with other fanbases . Yeah SasuSaku and NaruHina theories are annoying and I have snapped at them for being so stubborn before . It's hard not to. NH arguments are so .... meh

What can I say. This is an all out pairing war Those shippers are feisty as ever. They don't know about kishi just trolled them big time with the RtN movie. Just waiting it to be subbed.

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

What can I say. This is an all out pairing war Those shippers are feisty as ever. They don't know about kishi just trolled them big time with the RtN movie. Just waiting it to be subbed.

I'm looking forward to the ragings of SasuSaku and NaruHina fans . Always a good laugh for them denying the obvious .

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

I'm looking forward to the ragings of SasuSaku and NaruHina fans . Always a good laugh for them denying the obvious .

After all the SS and NH hype Kishi did with the manga. It was all an set up having to promote the movie through the manga and anime. And having to draw several art covers of the movie, where NH and SS seemed so canon. And the movie took an opposite direction from that. I can bet Kishi will have his inbox filled with hate emails once again by next year

Edited by Konoha'sCrimsonFox, 30 July 2012 - 08:40 AM.

[prunus]

any news about our favorite pair in the movie? anyone please share ...

[TouKen4Life3g]

any news about our favorite pair in the movie? anyone please share ...

Tons. Just tons.

Head over the RtN thread in Konoha Theater section. You can check for yourself. The fact that Kishi tarnished SasuSaku and used Hinata to backup NaruSaku is fascinating, and I don't use that word very often. You going to love the development they both share and ended in a high note. So good, that people are beginning to see that Kishi is serious with NaruSaku.

[Traci]

Tons. Just tons.

Head over the RtN thread in Konoha Theater section. You can check for yourself. The fact that Kishi tarnished SasuSaku and used Hinata to backup NaruSaku is fascinating, and I don't use that word very often. You going to love the development they both share and ended in a high note. So good, that people are beginning to see that Kishi is serious with NaruSaku.

Really? If so, thank god, lol. Maybe then I won't ever have to roll my eyes at people saying NaruSaku is a red herring.

None of the pairings are, imo. People really misuse terminology sometimes.

Edited by Traci, 30 July 2012 - 01:25 PM.

[Strangelove]

any news about our favorite pair in the movie? anyone please share ...

There are I believe more than 200 pages of discussion. Maybe we should put that thread in the Library...

Edited by Strangelove, 30 July 2012 - 02:06 PM.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Really? If so, thank god, lol. Maybe then I won't ever have to roll my eyes at people saying NaruSaku is a red herring.

None of the pairings are, imo. People really misuse terminology sometimes.

I'm not saying other pairings are red herring because they do have a chance, but I would say that Kishi is serious with the foundation of NaruSaku, which makes it highly possible, if not, will become canon. Put it this way: for people who doubted that NaruSaku have a chance to be canon or don't see it as a something that Kishi actually put effort on, think again.

[Traci]

I'm not saying other pairings are red herring because they do have a chance, but I would say that Kishi is serious with the foundation of NaruSaku, which makes it highly possible, if not, will become canon. Put it this way: for people who doubted that NaruSaku have a chance to be canon or don't see it as a something that Kishi actually put effort on, think again.

I didn't mean to accuse you of that. Sorry if it came off that way. I agree with you. As long as Kishimoto doesn't or hasn't changed his mind, it's NaruSaku that's going to happen.

[TouKen4Life3g]

I didn't mean to accuse you of that. Sorry if it came off that way. I agree with you. As long as Kishimoto doesn't or hasn't changed his mind, it's NaruSaku that's going to happen.

Oh no, no harm is done. I didn't mean to start off sounding mad. It's all fine.

But yes, Kishi is definitely serious with this pairing. Yes, he won't turn his manga into romance, but he's letting his followers know that this is one of most important bonds that he developed. Glad he found the time.

[Gravenimage]

It was the second time around. Thanks for the input.

And guys, tell me what's wrong with this posting... I got this off a NH shipper who is debating against my friend RamenRennegade.

First of all you have to ask that fan is he reading the Naruto manga written by Kishimoto or the fan made doujin NH chronicles? Because that doujin is quite famous among the NH fandom even with its poor art quality.

[4000TMNT]

I really hope NaruHina ends after the war arc, because I can't see how Kishi can drag NaruHina to the final chapter. Hinata could have her final say to Naruto at the battle field (once Tobi is defeated) or soon as they get back to the village. Hinata does not have any influence on Naruto or the plot, I still think Hinata might help NaruSaku development to become canon. So I hope this NaruHina thing ends soon.

Also, do any one has confirmation on Kishi stating that he created Hinata just to have a big boob character.

[Traci]

I really hope NaruHina ends after the war arc, because I can't see how Kishi can drag NaruHina to the final chapter. Hinata could have her final say to Naruto at the battle field (once Tobi is defeated) or soon as they get back to the village. Hinata does not have any influence on Naruto or the plot, I still think Hinata might help NaruSaku development to become canon. So I hope this NaruHina thing ends soon.

Also, do any one has confirmation on Kishi stating that he created Hinata just to have a big boob character.

I really doubt that's true. Tsunade fits that role perfectly (xDDDDDDD), and I don't think he would create a character for such a petty reason. She adds to the story by adding drama to the pairings and with her blossoming wallflower theme. If he really did create Hinata for that reason alone, then I would lose respect for Kishimoto unless his editors forced him to or something like that. But really, who knows.

[Paptala]

Really? If so, thank god, lol. Maybe then I won't ever have to roll my eyes at people saying NaruSaku is a red herring.

None of the pairings are, imo. People really misuse terminology sometimes.

I don't know about that - I think that the other pairings are red herrings; and by that I mean stuff like Hinata wanting to hold Naruto's hand or The reminders of Sakura's feelings for Sasuke. Now, this obviously isn't their only, or even main purpose (which to me is character development), but these moments certainly do the job of a red herring. These moments divert the reader's attention with something more overt on the surface; like how Kishi is using the reminders of Sakura's feelings to divert from the fact that Sakura hasn't said anything about her feelings for Naruto. This fits in with the definition given by merriam Webster. Kishi has those teases to up the drama of the romance subplot, and thus they do legitimately stand as red herrings as well as serving their primary function of character development.

Edited by Paptala, 30 July 2012 - 05:30 PM.

[Gravenimage]

I really hope NaruHina ends after the war arc, because I can't see how Kishi can drag NaruHina to the final chapter. Hinata could have her final say to Naruto at the battle field (once Tobi is defeated) or soon as they get back to the village. Hinata does not have any influence on Naruto or the plot, I still think Hinata might help NaruSaku development to become canon. So I hope this NaruHina thing ends soon.

Also, do any one has confirmation on Kishi stating that he created Hinata just to have a big boob character.

That depends since Hinata is not an important character to the plot of the story he can simply ignore her, get to the final chapter and hook up Naruto and Sakura without resolving her confession. That will be big time trolling to NH. I honestly don't see an importance for Kishi to resolve Hinata's confession, she should be aware that Naruto loves Sakura, everyone from the Konoha 11 knows that even the entire village knows after ch 450. Why can't she see that Naruto will always love Sakura and not her??? This is why I think she's smarter than she looks, Hinata might know but she still wants to protect Naruto and walk with him like he's her equal. I can't see Kishi resolving her confession because he has already trolled her character development after ch 437 still making her a character that only has Naruto in the head, and her entire development resolves only on him. She will never be an independent character that wants to fight to protect her friends, her village, and her clan. The fact that she only cares for Naruto more than anything doesn't make her an rightful heiress to the Hyuuga clan, I will prefer her sister taking her place instead (then again Kishi can also skip this part since the Hyuuga clan doesn't pose such an importance in the story either). If Kishi hasn't change Hinata since the chunin exams arc I don't think he will ever change her and he will continue to use her as a Naruto satellite and to use her to give fan service (her boobs).

Edited by Gravenimage, 30 July 2012 - 05:28 PM.

[MangaReader]

So I got that list from the guy...gotten say that his arguments make no sense at all XD (this guy is not from NF)

When Sakura was first introduced in Naruto she was the love interest for Naruto.

As time passed on she did nothing much except be there and let the others do the hard work. Chunin exams happen, she admirably tries to defend her fallen teammates but fails which is fine since it shows off Sasuke's new cursed seal power.

Then she ties against Ino in a pathetic match considering how Temari and Tenten had a better show. Again thats alright as her winning would be surprising considering she never trained and what she showed in the Forest of Death is evident of her skills back then.

Gaara happens 3 months later and for the first time I'm annoyed that Sakura was there as nothing more then the damsel in distress for Naruto to rescue. I ignore it of course.

Later on after Sasuke wakes up and fights Naruto. Sakura pulls her stupid move and tries to run into between Rasengan and Chidori. She was lucky Kakashi was there. I'm annoyed again and just dismiss Sakura as a non important character from then on.

Finally we get to the part where I started to HATE Sakura. Like literal disbelief that someone like her could exist and be a heroine.

Its chapter 181 of the original Naruto manga that Sakura started her downward spiral that she never really recovered from.

Here is a link to the moment where I really hated Sakura

During this chapter, Sakura is very selfishly thinking of herself and why Sasuke ignores her. She accuses Sasuke of hating her and talks all about how she "understands Sasuke's need for revenge" and that she knows his pain even though she has a family.

She confesses that she loves Sasuke with no back up to exactly when that happened and why she is in love with him.

Then she sprouts the most bullsh** I have ever read in my life.

Saying there would be no regrets and that Sasuke would be happy there with her.

The most disgusting part is when she says Sasuke should take her with him if he can't stay. SHE IS WILLING TO BETRAY HER VILLAGE FOR A FU*KING CRUSH!

Do you know how treason works? Because thats what Sakura was suggesting. I was never more disgusted with a character than Sakura when I read that moment. She was willing to give up her loyalty and life in Konoha to be with Sasuke.

Then she turns on the water works and tells Naruto to bring back Sasuke 2 chapters later.

Cue Sasuke arc and then time skip to Shippuden.

Here I was hopeing Sakura would change from a character I hated into a kunoichi worthy of respect and not disgust.

For the most part, it looked like it was coming true with the Sasori fight even with Chiyo winning the fight for her. But Sakura just lost it all one arc later.

Naruto stupidly goes Kyuubi form because of anger issues and Sakura stupidly walks in to interrupt and gets injured.

Then Sasuke is about to kill Naruto and she stands there doing nothing. Her attack becomes useless.

I could go on but I'm gonna shorten this to the latest bit of the manga since the message is already so long.

Sakura confesses a false I love you to Naruto so that he breaks his promise and stop chasing after Sasuke. I mean WTF!!!!! Wow Sakura congrats, you just made me hate you even more and have gone lower than ever before.

During her confession of love, Sakura says all of how Sasuke has turned evil and she can't believe she loved someone like that and how Naruto has now grown up now. Do you realize how shallow and disgusting that is to someone who reads that part?

Sakura is basically saying, Sasuke is too much of a criminal for me to love, now that you are a better person Naruto, I love you now.

Then the bit*h gets mad that Naruto is rejecting her.

Then she leaves and selfishly asks Kiba to lead her to Sasuke.

Later on after they track him down, she knocks out all her teammates and goes it solo. She leaves her teammates out cold in the woods in the middle of nowhere.

If enemies found them, they would be helpless. Lucky for them, Kakashi was kind enough to hide them before tracking Sakura.

Anyways Sakura finds Sasuke about to kill Karin. It really is too bad Sasuke missed his chance at killing Sakura.

Sakura cries for Sasuke while she heals Karin smh.

Then Sasuke almost kills Sakura again, damn Kishi needs to do it already.

Anyways after Naruto's monologue about friendship, Sakura says she believes in them when Naruto said he and Sasuke will die together. >.>

After that, Sakura was put in the backburner and is still the character I hate most out of all manga characters.

I still have much more ammo to use, so if this isn't enough to convince you why I hate Sakura, then I guess we will just have to disagree.

She is nothing more than a selfish girl who put her desires for a boy cloud her judgment. Even willing to betray her village and confess a false love to manipulate someone's feelings and promise.

The worst type of women out there imo.

I didn't even feel like arguing with him...said this list would make any of the Sakura fans cry...I didn't and and I don't think you guys would either