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[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 It also wouldn't solve any problems. It'd just shift the battlefield to what was cannon, which is a question that a sequel would be required to answer. 

 

Exactly. Though I do feel that in a lot of ways, when it dies down enough that it won't feel so relevant, if Kishimoto would help on it and do it RIGHT... I admit, a reboot would help fix things by doing a new direction. I mean, Digimon Adventure: is doing its own way of things from the original Digimon Adventure anime, and it's pretty well received from what I've heard. I doubt it'd happen, given the toxicity of a lot of Naruto's fandom, but hey, a guy can dream on right?

[ree]

 
Exactly. Though I do feel that in a lot of ways, when it dies down enough that it won't feel so relevant, if Kishimoto would help on it and do it RIGHT... I admit, a reboot would help fix things by doing a new direction. I mean, Digimon Adventure: is doing its own way of things from the original Digimon Adventure anime, and it's pretty well received from what I've heard. I doubt it'd happen, given the toxicity of a lot of Naruto's fandom, but hey, a guy can dream on right?

I don't think how they could do something like a reboot. Digimon adventure was great till the end, sadly Naruto wasn't. If they try to make a remake from the start they won't got the same result, the fandom won't go back, all of us know how bad it will end. We can't forget about the dream's tree, they still can use it; all about Boruto is just a dream of Hinata or something like that. As the last option they can fix the last two sagas. But they need Kishimoto get involved in Naruto again, and don't think he wants to.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

I don't think how they could do something like a reboot. Digimon adventure was great till the end, sadly Naruto wasn't. If they try to make a remake from the start they won't got the same result, the fandom won't go back, all of us know how bad it will end. We can't forget about the dream's tree, they still can use it; all about Boruto is just a dream of Hinata or something like that. As the last option they can fix the last two sagas. But they need Kishimoto get involved in Naruto again, and don't think he wants to.

 

I'd say he's done too because he probably has realized even if he was gonna go back to it, there's nothing but bad memories especially near the end and how it was hard for him since it was around the time his dad died that he had been in a slump along with the editors he kept having and his inability to stand up for himself and letting Studio Pierrot just take over things.

[Nostradamus]

That's why businesses are failing. Businesses people are greedy and corrupt, but they are predictable. It is all about making money and you manipulate that greed to get what you want if you are smart, but now these businesses people don't care about that anymore and we have businesses people willing to let their business burn and make people suffer than the greed of money. It is so weird and I can't believe how much politics have changed JUST so people can feel good about themselves or they can live their fetishes.

Now we have this idea that a 19 year old cartoon anime character ir pedophilic, but a movie about 11 years old wearing skimpy outfits and twerking in a TV MA rated movie on netflix is NOT pediphilia.

I am so confused.

 

So was I, until I saw this

and looked more into all that was said in it.

If the link gets deleted by the time you get to see this message, know it's called Out Of Shadows. I highly recommend it to see the world that we are feed.

[totherpage95]

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ignoring that bs video about giving boruto a chance, this post brings up a old kishi interview that was interesting for me to read fully again. it says kishi got the sharingan from the tale of jiraiya folk tale and he also shuts down any conversation about sakura saying her popularity wasn't high enough and hinata didn't do anything yet her popularity grew... also he says the love letter part of the manga was for a filler arc (which wasn't bad from what i remember) which isn't something I knew

[Bail o' Lies]

https://comicbook.co...ng-manga-anime/

ignoring that bs video about giving boruto a chance, this post brings up a old kishi interview that was interesting for me to read fully again. it says kishi got the sharingan from the tale of jiraiya folk tale and he also shuts down any conversation about sakura saying her popularity wasn't high enough and hinata didn't do anything yet her popularity grew... also he says the love letter part of the manga was for a filler arc (which wasn't bad from what i remember) which isn't something I knew

"When the interview asked whether the jutsu dug a grave for Kishimoto, the artist said he believes it did. "That's right. Naruto got stronger quickly, didn't he? When he improved his number of clones increased too. I just thought, 'I've really done it now!'."

The early introduction of the Shadow Clone messed up Kishimoto in two ways. The most obvious comes down to its art work as Kishimoto had to draw more and more clones. If the first fifty Naruto summoned were difficult to draw, then you can imagine how tired Kishimoto was after drawing one hundred clones or more.

The decision also impacted Naruto in a more practical way. The Hokage confirmed the Shadow Clone technique is a jounin-level move, and it is forbidden for many to learn. The fact Naruto managed to learn it and master the art before even becoming a ninja sealed his insane power. That was a lofty starting point for Kishimoto to move from, but fans think the creator handled the hurdle well."

 

The problem with the Shadow clones is, How many shadow clones can Naruto produce? The average has always been as far as I know 1000 at once. From the first chapter to chapter 700 I have never heard of this number increasing at any point. So its hard to see Naruto's growth through shadow clones numbers because even in his first display there were "a lot" and we were never told a number. He could have had 20 be his original limit, then by the end of part one raised to 100, then by part two 500, sage mode training 750, and by the end 1000. So the only way we can see Naruto improving is how well he is using his shadow clones.

 

Also it didn't help that chakra reserves were less plot element and more plot convenience.  

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 27 August 2020 - 07:07 AM.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

 

"When the interview asked whether the jutsu dug a grave for Kishimoto, the artist said he believes it did. "That's right. Naruto got stronger quickly, didn't he? When he improved his number of clones increased too. I just thought, 'I've really done it now!'."

The early introduction of the Shadow Clone messed up Kishimoto in two ways. The most obvious comes down to its art work as Kishimoto had to draw more and more clones. If the first fifty Naruto summoned were difficult to draw, then you can imagine how tired Kishimoto was after drawing one hundred clones or more.

The decision also impacted Naruto in a more practical way. The Hokage confirmed the Shadow Clone technique is a jounin-level move, and it is forbidden for many to learn. The fact Naruto managed to learn it and master the art before even becoming a ninja sealed his insane power. That was a lofty starting point for Kishimoto to move from, but fans think the creator handled the hurdle well."

 

The problem with the Shadow clones is, How many shadow clones can Naruto produce? The average has always been as far as I know 1000 at once. From the first chapter to chapter 700 I have never heard of this number increasing at any point. So its hard to see Naruto's growth through shadow clones numbers because even in his first display there were a lot and we were never told a number. He could have had 20 be his original limit, then by the end of part one raised to 100, then by part two 500, sage mode training 750, and by the end 1000. So the only way we can see Naruto improving is how well he is using his shadow clones.

 

Also it didn't help that chakra reserves were less plot element and more plot convenience.  

 

Definitely. The way I like to see it, for my fanfic, is that chakra reserves often can mean more powerful Jutsu, like what Jiraiya originally and seemed to mostly focus on with Naruto by emphasizing that as well as Kurama rather than refining Naruto's own abilities as well as that, and that it also can mean you could do something at a more rapid pace depending on emotion and other factors, like when Naruto produced a lot of Shadow Clones the first time he used the Shadow Clone Jutsu when Mizuki had threatened to kill Iruka, since he looked like he made, what? A little over a hundred?

[totherpage95]

https://comicbook.co...ss-fan-letters/
3 different storylines? really? I don’t remember there being a different writer and artist for naruto shippuden

[totherpage95]

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[totherpage95]

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[Bail o' Lies]

https://comicbook.co...ss-fan-letters/
3 different storylines? really? I don’t remember there being a different writer and artist for naruto shippuden

Can you quote what you are looking at so we don't have to give these sites clicks? Also instead of triple posting how-about just editing in the two other article into the first post?

 

"Naruto has easily become one of the most popular Shonen anime series that was released by the weekly publication but the creator of the franchise, Masashi Kishimoto, didn't realize just how popular his creation had become until he began getting some fan mail expressing audiences' love for the Hidden Leaf Village. With the series beginning in 1997 via its manga, the series has continued through three different story lines of Naruto, Naruto: Shippuden, and the latest generation of ninja in Boruto: Naruto Next Generations that tells the story of Naruto's son and his friends that make up the new class.

 

What he wasn't told the sales figures? The three story-lines are the three anime. 

 

A publication in Japan titled Asahi Shimbun had an interview with the Naruto creator in Masashi Kishimoto, detailing when he had realized how big the series had become once he began receiving fan mail from across the sea in the West:

 

"Because manga artists are always working inside rooms, it is difficult for us to see firsthand if our works are really popular. It was not until I received many fan letters from overseas that I realized [Naruto is] popular outside of Japan. Some of those letters are written in languages I do not know, so I understand that my work is read by people in various countries."

 

On top of detailing his discovery of fans' love of the series from all around the world, Kishimoto also went into detail about how he had wanted to end the Naruto series before diving into the world of the seventh Hokage's son in Boruto: Naruto Next Generations:

 

 

""Since the work was first serialized, I have been determined to end the manga series with the battle between protagonist Naruto and Sasuke, who has been his rival since the start of the story. I later decided on the details, little by little, such as whether they would fight each other as friends or enemies, their feelings and dialogues, while I was drawing the series."

 

Which was to the story's detriment as dragging out that plot bored both the audience and even the writer; as he went into auto pilot with his main character at least a hundred or even two hundred chapters before the fight.

 

With the Boruto: Naruto Next Generations series focusing on the new villainous collective in the Kara Organization, in both the manga and the anime, fans are re-discovering their love for the Hidden Leaf and finding that there is plenty of "meat left on the bones" when it comes to the adventures of the ninja of Konoha!"

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 28 August 2020 - 12:42 AM.

[BlueStarSaber]

Chrunchyroll articles of naruto are as bad as cbr it seems https://www.crunchyr...cr_twitter_news

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Chrunchyroll articles of naruto are as bad as cbr it seems https://www.crunchyr...cr_twitter_news

 

Why am I not surprised? u_u;;;

[Moon_Girl]

Does it surprise you? Naruto and Burrito are both on crunchyroll. They gotta sell it to the viewers. Also most anime companies in the U.S are cool with the trash ending.

[Bail o' Lies]

Does it surprise you? Naruto and Burrito are both on crunchyroll. They gotta sell it to the viewers. Also most anime companies in the U.S are cool with the trash ending.

They're fine with anything along as it doesn't hurt their image or affect profits.

[BlueStarSaber]

The minimum I tend to find when ever I see the ending ships criticised is mainly how SS got together from most reviews sites, but it's never so harsh the criticism.  

[Bail o' Lies]

The minimum I tend to find when ever I see the ending ships criticized is mainly how SS got together from most reviews sites, but it's never so harsh the criticism.  

Because, they know if they do shippers would have a fit. So, they only do the minimum of criticism to show they don't like the abuse also then ignore how nH pretty much just happened at the last minute with no build up.

[totherpage95]

so this is a red herring?    but at least this didn't need neji as a sacrifice or a movie not written by kishi

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[Bail o' Lies]

so this is a red herring?    but at least this didn't need neji as a sacrifice or a movie not written by kishi

Wasn't at the time, again another Girl fall in-love with the brash energetic ambitious boy. 

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

so this is a red herring?    but at least this didn't need neji as a sacrifice or a movie not written by kishi

 

Yeah, but I also admit I wouildn't be surprised if Konan may have also  had some feelings for Nagato besides Yahiko, since I always felt that Nagato likely never got WHY Konan remained with him in the Akatsuki outside of their dream, sinice I could imagine him thinking she hated him for "letting" Yahiko die.