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Posted 30 December 2009 - 02:01 AM

..^ Yeah, I agree Miss Soupy/:( I am kinda tired of Naruto's obsession. Sasuke (sorry Sasuske fans), but he is getting evil and darkerl. A typical evil character whom the chance to survive in the end is rare. For me Sasuke in the end will go insane, regret to all his actions. dry.gif

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 03:26 AM

This may be a shonen manga, but Kishi has now made for himself some romantic sub-plots (not sure if thats the correct terminology). He can leave the romantic sub-plots unresolved but I believe that would end up being one of the faults at the end of the Naruto manga, if he decided to make them unresolved.

Anyways, Kishimoto is all about the new generation stepping up and taking the place of the old generation, so to honor this path he has taken, I think it would be appropriate for Naruto to end up having his romantic sub-plot completed, and of course having a child with whoever his lover ends up being. The child is the start of the new generation... Just seems like that appropriate way to end the manga. Then again, I'm also slightly predicting that Naruto will lose his life by the end of the manga by sacrificing himself for the peace that he is expecting to bring to the world.

Just some thoughts, I just don't see Kishimoto not pairing Naruto with someone in the end. Right now, the person that has the development, and the romantic sub-plot with Naruto, is Sakura. Maybe Kishi will, maybe he won't. I really think that he will though.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 05:06 AM

QUOTE (Cupcake-chan @ Dec 29 2009, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
we all knew that this is a shounen manga. This type of manga doesn't focouse on romance, but on action, adventure and the plot, Naruto's and Sasuke's bond.


Err no, plenty of dramatic action shonen manga have a developing romance as a central part of the plot, and Naruto is one of them (and more than one romance at that...). Rurouni Kenshin, Inuyasha (two major romances), Yuyu Hakusho, Cheeky Angel, etc... Simplistic shonen action manga like Dragonball, One Piece, Yu-Gi-Oh have little to no romance plots, but once you step up from those basic shonen action manga, romance is certainly a central part of the plot.
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Posted 30 December 2009 - 05:14 AM

What I was saying is that if Kishi decides not to end the manga with a romance we can't get angry. He made a shounen manga. We're not supposed to expect a romantic relation between the main character and another character because the main plot isn't about their relationship.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 05:36 AM

QUOTE (Cupcake-chan @ Dec 30 2009, 12:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What I was saying is that if Kishi decides not to end the manga with a romance we can't get angry. He made a shounen manga. We're not supposed to expect a romantic relation between the main character and another character because the main plot isn't about their relationship.


Naruto core character, Sakura core character, and yeah their developing relationship is a central part of the plot. This isn't a shoujo yaoi manga. Naruto and/or Sakura's actions concerning the other and the other core character of Sasuke has driven the whole manga. It's exactly because of Sakura's choice, setting herself against Sasuke that Naruto fainted. The two people Naruto has the strongest bonds to are going to fight. He can't cope with the thought.
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Posted 30 December 2009 - 05:58 AM

Thats probably true, plus Naruto is pretty much no longer in control of the decision he is going to make. Seeing how Sakura is going after Sasuke, and seeing how there is no longer any hope for Sasuke, Naruto must go after Sasuke, to end Sasuke's dark path, to end his misery, to protect Konoha, and to save Sakura, he must kill Sasuke... as it seems. Naruto probly sees that one of his biggest goals in life is unachievable, and that realization probably took its toll on him.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 02:18 PM

I don't think Kishi won't put romance on the ending. There has been dozens of shonen manga where they have a romantic ending.

Inuyasha- Inuyasha and Kagome got married.

Ranma 1/2- Ranma and Akane got married too.

Yuyu Hakusho- Yusuke and Keiko shared a passionate kiss in the ending.

Rurouni Kenshin- Kenshin and Kaoru got married and had a son they both died together from a disease even if Kaoru knew about it and she still chose to sleep with him in the end.

I am sure Kishi will do the same since that's why he has developed Naru/Saku little by little turning it into a powerful friendship relationship so the possibility of Naruto marrying Sakura and having a son with her after he becomes Hokage its very visible.
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Posted 30 December 2009 - 03:24 PM

NS are close to being canon since they both confess to being in love with one another. Besides them maybe SK if it can even be consider. I have read some post rather its from this site or not that Naruto may die in the end for peace. Now I can understand Sasuke but Naruto? It really takes the cake because the goals Kishi has set up for him its highly unlikely that Naruto may die.

If that's so then what are your opinions?
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Posted 30 December 2009 - 04:12 PM

QUOTE (Gravenimage @ Dec 30 2009, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think Kishi won't put romance on the ending. There has been dozens of shonen manga where they have a romantic ending.

Inuyasha- Inuyasha and Kagome got married.

Ranma 1/2- Ranma and Akane got married too.

Yuyu Hakusho- Yusuke and Keiko shared a passionate kiss in the ending.

Rurouni Kenshin- Kenshin and Kaoru got married and had a son they both died together from a disease even if Kaoru knew about it and she still chose to sleep with him in the end.

I am sure Kishi will do the same since that's why he has developed Naru/Saku little by little turning it into a powerful friendship relationship so the possibility of Naruto marrying Sakura and having a son with her after he becomes Hokage its very visible.


Inuyasha- Sango and Miroku married as well and had at least three kids. wink.gif

The Kenshin ending with them both dying was made up by the animators, Watsuki was really angry about that- he had promised a happy ending for the manga and delivered- Kaoru and Kenshin married with a young son Kenji. Yahiko was beginning a romance with Tsubame, and Misao with a possible romance with Aoshi (although Watsuki hinted that their romance would be difficult in a post manga interview)

Romance has played a strong role throughout Naruto and not just with the core characters.
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Posted 30 December 2009 - 04:23 PM

..^ Thanks Ciardha. The Kenshin and Kaoru dying on the train, was not manga related..smile.gif I am so happy and relieved that the manga author did not approve what the animators did.

Also in the part of NS, this is completely and healthy pairing. I just hope NH/SS realized this.

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 05:05 PM

I feel like the romance in those other shounen was fairly obvious. At least in comparison to Naruto where the romance seems much more complicated. Most people knew Inuyasha and Kagome would get together, and Kenshin and Kaoru, etc. The biggest question was how it would be handled and when it would be clearly official.

I feel the pairings in Naruto are much less clear cut. Not to mention kishimoto seems uninterested in the romance part of the story (whereas in the other mangas, the romance was treated more fairly). I suppose Kishi could have gone a more direct route if he was truly uncomfortable with romance, but he chose to add another angle to the rivalry between Naruto and Sasuke by adding the love triangle. I wonder if he regrets doing this tongue.gif

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 05:46 PM

No reason why Naruto can't die AND get married.

(If the 9-tails is extracted, so that Naruto can live stress-free in the future, there will need to be a way to bring him back to life.)

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 06:25 PM

I doubt he's going to die in the first place. He has to lead the ninja world into peace, remember? And he can't just die once he does that. Doesn't seem right to me.

Romance has been paid more attention than I expected, and as someone said, it's an important sub-plot. Mainly NaruSaku. Maybe SasuSaku.

For example, as many have said before, a theme in Naruto is to surpass the previous generation. Jiraiya and Tsunade's potential relationship actually got a lot more attention than I expected. Kishi emphasized that there could have been something if Jiraiya had come back. He also emphasized that Tsunade regretted never letting Jiraiya know how she felt. It would be a mistake if Naruto and Sakura (Jiraiya and Tsunade's parallels) never got together.

Second, it's been stated on both sides that Naruto loves Sakura and Sakura loves Naruto. No other relationship has that. Hinata stated that she loved Naruto, but he never stated that he loved her. Sakura stated that she loved Sasuke, but he never stated that he loved her. In those regards, NaruSaku is the only complete relationship. Third... Is Naruto, the main character, going to lose to his rival in love, Sasuke? laugh.gif I can't see Sakura and Sasuke walking away together, while Naruto stands there, defeated. (And no, he will not run into the loving arms of Hinata. That would make her the rebound girl anyways. Lost to Sasuke so he settled for a minor character? No, thanks.)

It's been stated already that Sakura loves Naruto. That's not going to be swept under the rug and forgotten. (Hinata's confession kind of was, and I don't want to speak to soon, but she's not even that important to the plot)

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feel the pairings in Naruto are much less clear cut. Not to mention kishimoto seems uninterested in the romance part of the story (whereas in the other mangas, the romance was treated more fairly). I suppose Kishi could have gone a more direct route if he was truly uncomfortable with romance, but he chose to add another angle to the rivalry between Naruto and Sasuke by adding the love triangle. I wonder if he regrets doing this


It's true, they're a lot more complex, but I think Kishi added that in to add depth to the story. But more believably I think it's coincidence, he never intended to, and the love webs got a little too tangled. I think he wrote himself into a ditch by making Hinata confess, but now I feel like he's going to kind of write around that, like he did with Lee and Sakura; Lee never got a resolution, but he doesn't need one, and Lee and Sakura are just fine as friends.

Edited by Froot, 30 December 2009 - 06:28 PM.


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Posted 30 December 2009 - 06:36 PM

QUOTE (RedDelicious @ Dec 30 2009, 06:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No reason why Naruto can't die AND get married.

(If the 9-tails is extracted, so that Naruto can live stress-free in the future, there will need to be a way to bring him back to life.)


i really wish we knew sakuras Pov i think she was telling naruto the truth she isent the type to lie when someone is already in pain

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 07:23 PM

Hello, I am new here.

I agree, Sakura-san is very caring towards Naruto-kun, even with her crude exterior. I read somewhere that a woman may act harshly to the man she loves. Though I don't know why. That still confuses me.


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Posted 30 December 2009 - 07:31 PM

So Sai really is the cheerleader for NS? hm.png

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 07:31 PM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Dec 30 2009, 02:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So Sai really is the cheerleader for NS? hm.png


Damn right he is. hm.png

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 07:52 PM

QUOTE (Cloud @ Dec 30 2009, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Damn right he is. hm.png

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 08:08 PM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Dec 30 2009, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So Sai really is the cheerleader for NS? hm.png


Yes he is. tongue.gif

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Posted 30 December 2009 - 08:20 PM

I am a cheerleader?

I just think that since Naruto-kun and Sakura-san have been through so much together, and quite obviously hold affections for each other, that they should be together. I've seen lately that people support the idea of Naruto-kun and Hinata-san being together. This I do not understand, since Naruto-kun obviously has feelings for Sakura-san and Sakura-san only, and I don't see Hinata as the type of person that would puruse Naruto-kun. Does she even love Naruto-kun the same way Sakura-san loves Naruto-kun? I may have missed something.


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