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[Branden]

well heres what I think :

Naruto and Sakura already love eachother.
Why aren't they together then?
Sakura is confused about her feelings for Sasuke.
Naruto believes that Sakura is still deeply in love with Sasuke.
Naruto doesn't realize that Sakura is fully aware of how much Naruto loves her.
Naruto feels that he can never confess his love to Sakura because he couldn't keep his promise.



Here's the beautiful thing though. Sakura's feelings for Sasuke have changed recently. She use to think of Sasuke as he was in Team7. Now she thinks of him in a very dark and evil manner. Thinking about him makes her sad. I believe that Sakura is in the process of "falling out of love" with Sasuke.

In my opinion Naruto and Sakura should just embrace eachother right now. It's obvious how much they care for eachother, but I guess the middle of a war would be a bad time to do this huh? Then again they may "never" have another chance to. I put quotes around that since they all have plot armor and obviously won't die, but you get my point.

[redragon88]

You know what that sounds like? brb, im going to go to a random nh video on youtube.

Ah yes, took me about 3 minutes.
"Yes it's developed not instant. Sakura loves Sasuke no one else. It won't happen with naruto no matter what! She loves Sasuke only. It proves it multiple times in the show and manga. Also some stuff happens in the manga that kinda suggests Naruto might like Hinata so muahahahahahaaaaa! If he ends up with anyone it has to be her I think. Sakura won't stop loving Sasuke."

I'd say this is a rare occasion but I see comments like this spammed everywhere on almost all pairing videos on youtube. One of the many reasons why I decided to relocate to this website.


EDIT:
"some stuff happens in the manga that kinda suggests that Naruto might like Hinata"
I think that's one of the most unsure statements I've ever herd.

A little confused here. Did you post that youtube comment because you think my conclusions are no better that what that SS fan says about Sakura always loving Sasuke?

I find that hard to believe when it has always been emphasized that even though Sakura loves Sasuke so much her feelings for Naruto keep growing stronger and stronger. It's also been pointed out multiple times that Sakura herself isn't sure about what her feelings are for Naruto.

The part of her still loving Sasuke and it being shown in the manga can be true, but saying that she only loves Sasuke and that Naruto never had a chance is just delusional thinking.

I would appreciate it if you didn't put me in the same category as that comment.

[merryGOflava]

in the middle of a war!?


love can still happen in a war!!!

someone just needs to risk their life for the other person (preferably sakura for naruto....though...it doesnt matter!!!)

THEN WHAM-O!

sakura and naruto will realize how much they mean to each other!!!

kiss

then canon

[Branden]

A little confused here. Did you post that youtube comment because you think my conclusions are no better that what that SS fan says about Sakura always loving Sasuke?

I find that hard to believe when it has always been emphasized that even though Sakura loves Sasuke so much her feelings for Naruto keep growing stronger and stronger. It's also been pointed out multiple times that Sakura herself isn't sure about what her feelings are for Naruto.

The part of her still loving Sasuke and it being shown in the manga can be true, but saying that she only loves Sasuke and that Naruto never had a chance is just delusional thinking.

I would appreciate it if you didn't put me in the same category as that comment.

That comment was just to give an example of people claiming "Sakura will only love Sasuke". I was just saying that it sounded very similar to "Naruto will only love Sakura"

I still think it's true I'm just saying we are sounding very similar to NH/SS fans.

[TouKen4Life3g]

That comment was just to give an example of people claiming "Sakura will only love Sasuke". I was just saying that it sounded very similar to "Naruto will only love Sakura"

I still think it's true I'm just saying we are sounding very similar to NH/SS fans.

I understand your last statement. The big difference is that Naruto has supports to his goals/future. Jiraya's failures, Kushina's wishes, parallels, and the list goes on. Sakura has no support to her love for Sasuke. Often, people mistakes her to be the girlfriend of Naruto. There's just so much chemistry with Naruto and Sakura. In the end, it's about Naruto.

[redragon88]

That comment was just to give an example of people claiming "Sakura will only love Sasuke". I was just saying that it sounded very similar to "Naruto will only love Sakura"

I still think it's true I'm just saying we are sounding very similar to NH/SS fans.

I see. Sorry if I misinterpreted your comment.

But you have to admit that Sakura has always been the wild card with her feelings. It's never been implied that her always loving Sasuke has been a sure thing, not the way Naruto's never changing feelings for Sakura have been shown. Sakura always fluctuate, but Naruto is forever stable.

That's why we can better claim that Naruto only loves Sakura. We can do at a higher level than those who want to say that Sakura only loves Sasuke.

[Branden]

@NS4LIFE
I'm suprised by that. I haven't seen anyone make that mistake before. Then again I'm on a NS forum and the community on here mainly consists of regular manga readers.

[MangaReader]

in the middle of a war!?


love can still happen in a war!!!

someone just needs to risk their life for the other person (preferably sakura for naruto....though...it doesnt matter!!!)

THEN WHAM-O!

sakura and naruto will realize how much they mean to each other!!!

kiss

then canon

I could bring up Avatar the Last Airbender, despite it not being a "true" anime. Anyway, that's how I feel this whole love relationship thing is playing out, waiting till after the war to happen

[redragon88]

@NS4LIFE
I'm suprised by that. I haven't seen anyone make that mistake before. Then again I'm on a NS forum and the community on here mainly consists of regular manga readers.

As far as I remember it happened twice in the part 1 story. The first time was when Konohamaru saw Sakura for the first time, since she was together with Naruto at the moment I guess he jumped to conclusions. The second time was when Naruto summoned Gamabunta to fight against Gaara and told him to be careful as to not harm Sakura, then Gamabunta asked who Sakura was and Gamakichi (his toad son who was also there) told him she was Naruto's girlfriend (not in words but by showing his pinky finger).

Showing the pinky finger implies that their bound by the red string of fate, which is used to refer to couples.

[Don-kun]

That comment was just to give an example of people claiming "Sakura will only love Sasuke". I was just saying that it sounded very similar to "Naruto will only love Sakura"

I still think it's true I'm just saying we are sounding very similar to NH/SS fans.

That's why I try not to use that argument, in my case I say Naruto may always have feelings for Sakura proven by the Manga, the same with Hinata, I cannot say that same about Sakura because her feelings are there but they are not the same, the thing is that Narutoo may never stop loving Sakura, but he can accept and move on and maybe start a new relationship with Hinata.

But

Since Naruto is the main character if by any change there is another solid confirmation that he still loves Sakura, he is the main character I don't think Kishi will give Naruto a happy sad face, Naruto has 100% more chance for Kishi creating a scenario for Sakura to fall in love with him. If Hinata loves Naruto but he loves Sakura Naruto's feelings comes first, same with Sakura, well not the same because she already open up to Naruto.

[Branden]

As far as I remember it happened twice in the part 1 story. The first time was when Konohamaru saw Sakura for the first time, since she was together with Naruto at the moment I guess he jumped to conclusions. The second time was when Naruto summoned Gamabunta to fight against Gaara and told him to be careful as to not harm Sakura, then Gamabunta asked who Sakura was and Gamakichi (his toad son who was also there) told him she was Naruto's girlfriend (not in words but by showing his pinky finger).

Showing the pinky finger implies that their bound by the red string of fate, which is used to refer to couples.

Oh thought he meant people new to Naruto thought that. My mistake.

That's why I try not to use that argument, in my case I say Naruto may always have feelings for Sakura proven by the Manga, the same with Hinata, I cannot say that same about Sakura because her feelings are there but they are not the same, the thing is that Narutoo may never stop loving Sakura, but he can accept and move on and maybe start a new relationship with Hinata.

But

Since Naruto is the main character if by any change there is another solid confirmation that he still loves Sakura, he is the main character I don't think Kishi will give Naruto a happy sad face, Naruto has 100% more chance for Kishi creating a scenario for Sakura to fall in love with him. If Hinata loves Naruto but he loves Sakura Naruto's feelings comes first, same with Sakura, well not the same because she already open up to Naruto.

That would be extremely awkward.
"I love you Hinata, you'll always be my silver medal."

well heres what I think :

Naruto and Sakura already love eachother.
Why aren't they together then?
Sakura is confused about her feelings for Sasuke.
Naruto believes that Sakura is still deeply in love with Sasuke.
Naruto doesn't realize that Sakura is fully aware of how much Naruto loves her.
Naruto feels that he can never confess his love to Sakura because he couldn't keep his promise.



Here's the beautiful thing though. Sakura's feelings for Sasuke have changed recently. She use to think of Sasuke as he was in Team7. Now she thinks of him in a very dark and evil manner. Thinking about him makes her sad. I believe that Sakura is in the process of "falling out of love" with Sasuke.

In my opinion Naruto and Sakura should just embrace eachother right now. It's obvious how much they care for eachother, but I guess the middle of a war would be a bad time to do this huh? Then again they may "never" have another chance to. I put quotes around that since they all have plot armor and obviously won't die, but you get my point.

I'd really like to get people's opinion on this. I thought it made a lot of sense but I know there's flaws in this. Help me find them?

[xxRomanceGirlxx]

It's not impossible, BUT, Kishi is making it impossible. Much like trying to bring back Sasuke, a lot of people would give up. Naruto is all about not giving up. Rewards always come when you continue to fight on. It's only game over when you stop. Naruto is somebody that Kishi wants people to understand that everyone can achieve anything if you just keep on fighting. Trust me when I say this, if Naruto falls in love with Hinata, then a lot of previous developments will go to waste. The payoff will be weak and not inspiring at all. Naruto going with Sakura has a huge payoff for readers than quick hook-up with Hinata and Sasuke returning with no developments with Sakura, let alone that their relationship is really stale and boring that not even in the same standard as shounen couple.

This is exactly why I can never see Naruto changing his feelings. He never gives up, ever. He hates giving up because he feels if he doesn't try his hardest, that's why he won't succede. He never does anything halfway. I don't see how his love for Sakura is suddenly a different story. A SasuSaku fan once claimed to me that Naruto never gives up on the important things, not something trivial like romance. If that's the case, then why does Naruto still love Sakura? He easily could have resolved to during the timeskip after the Promise of a Lifetime when his feelings were painfully unrequited. But somehow he didn't. Not even during the time of the confession in Part Two. With that kind of stubbornness, it's hard to see him stop loving Sakura. Sakura has more reasons to move on from Sasuke. 540 demonstrated for us that Sakura is shameful of her feelings for Sasuke and wishes very much she didn't have them. This means future character development.

I only picture a NH ending like this:

Hinata: "Naruto-kun, I love you still and wish very much to be with you.
Naruto: "I still love Hinata, Sakura but I guess since she doesn't feel the same, I'll date you."

Either some other rushed, unsatisfing NaruHina ending that will likely contradict the rest of the manga. If though we shouldn't consider it completely impossible, it is hard not to .

[redragon88]

I'd really like to get people's opinion on this. I thought it made a lot of sense but I know there's flaws in this. Help me find them?

It looks pretty good to me. You made very good points on it.

I do believe that Kishi wants to make absolutely sure that no one ever thinks that Naruto was Sakura's silver medal just because Sasuke turned evil. That's why Sakura is still shown to have feelings for Sasuke. If Sakura became Naruto's girlfriend right now many people would wonder if it just happened because Sasuke wasn't available.

I think Kishi should make it that when Sakura falls completely for Naruto it isn't because he's some big time hero and is there for her, it should be because she realizes that being around Naruto brings her more joy than anything a good Sasuke could offer.

[ramenanmitsu]

Sakura -> Sasuke (Naruto is close)
Naruto -> Sakura
Hinata -> Naruto

Out of the above, Sakura has the biggest reason to move on. And Naruto is the most likely guy to keep on with his feelings.
There is no space for other pairings here.

I've seen people say that Naruto has the biggest reasons to move on, because he hates people who lie to themselves.
It makes me laugh because he doesn't seem to hate Sasuke who tried to kill Kakashi and Sakura.
At least in Japan, killing is more evil than lying

I think Kishi should make it that when Sakura falls completely for Naruto it isn't because he's some big time hero and is there for her, it should be because she realizes that being around Naruto brings her more joy than anything a good Sasuke could offer.

THIS! I want Naruto to be the one to change her heart not Sasuke. If she moves on from Sasuke because he's low, she only moved on because of Sasuke's actions and her heart is clearly influenced by Sasuke only. But if she moves on from Sasuke because a certain blonde ninja tops her heart that Sasuke naturally fades in comparison, it shows that she is influenced by Naruto and him only. This is what I want to see.

Edited by narunarunaru, 29 July 2012 - 04:32 AM.

[4000TMNT]

Does anyone have a link to what Kishi said about, he would make only one paring canon.

[Branden]

It looks pretty good to me. You made very good points on it.

I do believe that Kishi wants to make absolutely sure that no one ever thinks that Naruto was Sakura's silver medal just because Sasuke turned evil. That's why Sakura is still shown to have feelings for Sasuke. If Sakura became Naruto's girlfriend right now many people would wonder if it just happened because Sasuke wasn't available.

I think Kishi should make it that when Sakura falls completely for Naruto it isn't because he's some big time hero and is there for her, it should be because she realizes that being around Naruto brings her more joy than anything a good Sasuke could offer.

Funny you feel that way. I made that exact same argument a while back and almost nobody agreed with me. They all said that Sakura had already proven that she doesn't love Sasuke.

You can try to eleborate all you want. But your still wrong. My thoughts are that if NS happens in a way that ignores the fact she has loved Sasuke, then the entire point of this struggle would be disregarded. Sakura needs to have her feelings resolved in a way that cannot be doubted. A way that has absolute 0 speculation. If next chapter Sakura and Naruto get together then I'll be done with this couple entirely and I'll be gone from this website. Kishimoto needs to resolve the problems he's put into this couple if he wants me to respect it.

Let me give you an example, just give me a second to put my fan fiction gloves on.
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After the edo tensei is release the jinchiriki die leaving behind the tailed beasts, however the tailed beasts think Naruto will try to merge them all so they revolt. After a long fight the tailed beasts are sealed away, and Naruto lies bleeding to death in the rain. Sakura's squad shows up to aid them. Sakura sees Naruto bleeding and rushes over to save him. She starts healing him but there's no response. Sakura cry's over Naruto and then pulls him into a hug then whispers "Please Naruto, don't leave me, I love you." Naruto hugs her back with a smile on his face. "Please don't cry Sakura"
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I'll leave the rest of that fan fiction up to you.


Now what was wrong with that? It seems fine right? Sakura realized her feelings for Naruto and everybody lived happily ever after . Right?

No. Just no. Sakura already loves Naruto, and the reason Naruto didn't accept that is because he knows she still loves Sasuke.

And here is the post I made regarding it.

[redragon88]

And here is the post I made regarding it.

You make a good argument.

Let me quote what narunarunaru said a few posts before:

THIS! I want Naruto to be the one to change her heart not Sasuke. If she moves on from Sasuke because he's low, she only moved on because of Sasuke's actions and her heart is clearly influenced by Sasuke only. But if she moves on from Sasuke because a certain blonde ninja tops her heart that Sasuke naturally fades in comparison, it shows that she is influenced by Naruto and him only. This is what I want to see.

Sakura moving on from Sasuke should be thanks to Naruto's positive influence on her, not because of Sasuke's negative influence on her. Sakura needs to realize that she loves Naruto not because he's a better logical choice than Sasuke, but because Naruto brings her a lot more joy than what Sasuke could possibly offer her even if he was a good person.

As for how Kishimoto could manage that, we'll just have to wait and see.

[Branden]

I actually enjoyed the break from parings quite a bit. It was a great time to enjoy the series as a whole without worrying if Narusaku won't prevail. It's nice right now, some epic fights going on, some character develoupment. But It is reaching the end, and rather than having the final deciding Narusaku moment being something that's already happened I think it should be something new. I've said this in a previous thread, but Sakura still loves Sasuke. Because of that, the only way I can think of for narusaku to come in a satisfying way is for Naruto to convince Sasuke to be good again. Then after that Naruto would feel happy and accomplished expecting Sakura to go be with Sasuke. However, the twist is that after Sasuke has returned Sakura's worries are gone, and she can finally focus on Naruto. So Naruto expecting Sakura and Sasuke to be making out or something will be greatly suprised when Sakura comes to see him to tell him she loves him. I can just imagine it right now. It seems like the perfect way for Narusaku to happen given the current circumstances.

Another post I made regarding this issue. My views have changed a bit but the core meaning is still there.

[Transformers03]

I kind of find it funny that we are all here arguing that Naruto would never change his feelings for Sakura, because that isn't his character, BUT we never really talked about Hinata's feelings for Naruto. Hinata has had a crush on Naruto since they were little kids, as shown in the flashback chapters when Naruto first met Sasuke, so why would she give up her feelings for him? Is it because he is in love with somebody else (Sakura), but in that case shouldn't Naruto given up when he realized Sakura loved Sasuke?

If she doesn't get with him, especially after her proclamation in 573, then it will seem as if she failed to get him. It would be any other failure she gains, and her character would have been pointless. Of course there can be situation written in the manga that can solve that problem, but for now I just don't know how Kishi going to solve this. I see the series definitely going to Narusaku, especially after reading some of the rumors of the latest movie that he was in charged in, but I now just don't understand Hinata's proclamation, and why it was given so much emphasis.

[Branden]

I kind of find it funny that we are all here arguing that Naruto would never change his feelings for Sakura, because that isn't his character, BUT we never really talked about Hinata's feelings for Naruto. Hinata has had a crush on Naruto since they were little kids, as shown in the flashback chapters when Naruto first met Sasuke, so why would she give up her feelings for him? Is it because he is in love with somebody else (Sakura), but in that case shouldn't Naruto given up when he realized Sakura loved Sasuke?

If she doesn't get with him, especially after her proclamation in 573, then it will seem as if she failed to get him. It would be any other failure she gains, and her character would have been pointless. Of course there can be situation written in the manga that can solve that problem, but for now I just don't know how Kishi going to solve this. I see the series definitely going to Narusaku, especially after reading some of the rumors of the latest movie that he was in charged in, but I now just don't understand Hinata's proclamation, and why it was given so much emphasis.

Well I know I don't talk about Hinata because I've lost hope in her. I was really interested in her clan's future until the whole holding hands thing. That was the ultimate troll by Kishi. Have an entire page saying how Hinata is done with Naruto only to have supreme disappointment the next page.

Edited by Branden, 29 July 2012 - 06:50 AM.