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#28881 Branden

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 09:40 AM

The only thing that bothers the crap out of me is that Kishi wont be able to prove Naruto isnt a silver medal especielly after what happened in SR and LOI. It kind of sucks when a pairing has to rely on outside forces to help it stay afloat and become canon.

And yes I know what Kishi is trying to do hes going to have Sasuke return to Team 7 and then make NS canon so Sakura can actually choose Naruto as opposed to LOI picking him because there was no other option.....but thats retarded because we know she isnt going to pick Sasuke because of all the heartbreaks and murder attempts he put her through, it doesnt at all feel conclusive it will just raise the question on if NS would still happen if Sasuke hadnt become psychotic or continiously broke her heart

Kishi could explain that she was in love with who she thought Sasuke was as opposed to being in love with who he actually was. That alone would be enough.


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Posted 24 August 2014 - 09:48 AM

Damn it.I wish Kishi would just make a pair canon already.Currently it runs like this-Hinata likes Naruto,Naruto likes Sakura,Sakura likes Sasuke,Sasuke doesnt like anyone.LOL

The only thing that bothers the crap out of me is that Kishi wont be able to prove Naruto isnt a silver medal especielly after what happened in SR and LOI. It kind of sucks when a pairing has to rely on outside forces to help it stay afloat and become canon.

And yes I know what Kishi is trying to do hes going to have Sasuke return to Team 7 and then make NS canon so Sakura can actually choose Naruto as opposed to LOI picking him because there was no other option.....but thats retarded because we know she isnt going to pick Sasuke because of all the heartbreaks and murder attempts he put her through, it doesnt at all feel conclusive it will just raise the question on if NS would still happen if Sasuke hadnt become psychotic or continiously broke her heart

Whats's LOI and SR?Sorry I am new here :)

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 10:01 AM

The only thing that bothers the crap out of me is that Kishi wont be able to prove Naruto isnt a silver medal especielly after what happened in SR and LOI. It kind of sucks when a pairing has to rely on outside forces to help it stay afloat and become canon.

And yes I know what Kishi is trying to do hes going to have Sasuke return to Team 7 and then make NS canon so Sakura can actually choose Naruto as opposed to LOI picking him because there was no other option.....but thats retarded because we know she isnt going to pick Sasuke because of all the heartbreaks and murder attempts he put her through, it doesnt at all feel conclusive it will just raise the question on if NS would still happen if Sasuke hadnt become psychotic or continiously broke her heart

You ALWAYS keep bringing up this nonsense silver-medal argument. Everytime you do this, a lot of members here explain why this isn't the case and the debate sort of dies out. But after one or two weeks you bring up the same argument again! Why?!

 

First of all, you mentioned Naruto is a silver-medal because of what happened in the LOI. I feel its the complete opposite. Kishi purposefully made Sakura confess in a way that makes Naruto look like a silver-medal. She was implying that she loved Naruto because Sasuke went over to the bad side and left her. So, YES, Sakura's confession did make Naruto seem like a silver-medal.

BUT what did Naruto do? Did he accept that? NO. He realized it right away and asked her to stop. Now, if Naruto had accepted her right then you could call him her second-choice. But he did not. Kishi is telling the readers that Naruto isn't going to happy with being Sakura's second choice. So, actually, what transpired in the LOI destroys any chance of Naruto being a Silver-medal, NOT the other way around.

 

As far as your second paragraph is concerned, you're being overly critical I'm afraid. How many people actually end up with the very first person they fell in love with? Very few! How many girls end up marrying their very first crush-the one they got at an immature age? Even fewer. Most of the times those feelings won't even be love but just an infatuation. They end up realizing what love truly means and choose the right person when they are older and more mature. This is what happens in over 90% of the cases. If we go by your logic, very few people in this world would not be a silver-medal. So, your logic isn't accurate and isn't the best one to use.


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Posted 24 August 2014 - 10:03 AM

I think the humor behind the scene was that Ash misinterpreted what she meant. The way I gathered from the english dub atleast was that what she meant was "You and I will both be married someday not just Brock" what she ended up saying was "You and I will be married someday too like Brock"
 
 
Wouldn't surprise me, Mashima did it.
 
Speaking of fanservice i'm starting to wonder if Kishi based Sakura's perversion off his wife. Anyone notice that in part 1 there was alot more fanservice for boys and yet after Kishi got married there was alot more fanservice for girls? Though I do like Sakura makes a comment to herself that its ok for Naruto to use the male harem jutsu on her. 

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 11:09 AM

@ns4life
Is there any yuri fanservice in fairytail?

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 11:22 AM

@ns4life
Is there any yuri fanservice in fairytail?

I don't recall any. I mean just showing off their bodies, but not like leaning each other or anything like that. In anime, there are yaoi fanservice with Gray because Juvia's hallucination is stronger in there. I recall two or three. One is when Gray and Lyon went to the water slide and suddenly, they both look bishounen, near kissing each other. That's her imagination though.

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 11:47 AM

I don't recall any. I mean just showing off their bodies, but not like leaning each other or anything like that. In anime, there are yaoi fanservice with Gray because Juvia's hallucination is stronger in there. I recall two or three. One is when Gray and Levi went to the water slide and suddenly, they both look bishounen, near kissing each other. That's her imagination though.

Levi?It's Lyon I believe.


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Posted 24 August 2014 - 11:57 AM

Levi?It's Lyon I believe.


Whoops. Lol. I just woke up. Sorry.

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 12:03 PM

Whoops. Lol. I just woke up. Sorry.

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 12:24 PM

@ns4life
Is there any yuri fanservice in fairytail?

There was one, where Lucy thought that chick with crazy hair( can't remember her name, but she was a part of Raven Tail) was tourturing her, while she was naked. There's also all the times Cana grabs Lucy's breast, but other than that I can't recall yuri scenes.

 

 

I just want Naruto to refill Sakura's chaka resevrses, cause it just leaves m feeling like Sakura won't do much in the up coming chapters and that something bad will happen to her, like how Minato needs his arms back.


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Posted 24 August 2014 - 12:39 PM

You know, I remember in the anime, they go beyond in FT. Like when that girl with crazy hair showed up again, manga got Lucy scared that she will torture her again and that's it. In the anime, Lucy got scared and imagine it with Lucy being naked, pretty much tentacle rape. Strange....

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 12:51 PM

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 12:53 PM

Ah yes, that's the name. I was thinking something with F but that's it. Thank you.

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 12:56 PM

Crazy haired girl:Flare

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Posted 24 August 2014 - 12:56 PM

You ALWAYS keep bringing up this nonsense silver-medal argument. Everytime you do this, a lot of members here explain why this isn't the case and the debate sort of dies out. But after one or two weeks you bring up the same argument again! Why?!

 

First of all, you mentioned Naruto is a silver-medal because of what happened in the LOI. I feel its the complete opposite. Kishi purposefully made Sakura confess in a way that makes Naruto look like a silver-medal. She was implying that she loved Naruto because Sasuke went over to the bad side and left her. So, YES, Sakura's confession did make Naruto seem like a silver-medal.

BUT what did Naruto do? Did he accept that? NO. He realized it right away and asked her to stop. Now, if Naruto had accepted her right then you could call him her second-choice. But he did not. Kishi is telling the readers that Naruto isn't going to happy with being Sakura's second choice. So, actually, what transpired in the LOI destroys any chance of Naruto being a Silver-medal, NOT the other way around.

 

As far as your second paragraph is concerned, you're being overly critical I'm afraid. How many people actually end up with the very first person they fell in love with? Very few! How many girls end up marrying their very first crush-the one they got at an immature age? Even fewer. Most of the times those feelings won't even be love but just an infatuation. They end up realizing what love truly means and choose the right person when they are older and more mature. This is what happens in over 90% of the cases. If we go by your logic, very few people in this world would not be a silver-medal. So, your logic isn't accurate and isn't the best one to use.

Actually nobody here answered the question, and we already discussed that Naruto didn't turn her down because he didn't want to be her second choice he did it so he could find out what was really going on. 

 

Relying on a statistic doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense in a show with talking animals.  It also doesn't change the fact that NS relies on alot of outside sources to actually get its feet off the ground. 


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Posted 24 August 2014 - 01:37 PM

Actually nobody here answered the question, and we already discussed that Naruto didn't turn her down because he didn't want to be her second choice he did it so he could find out what was really going on. 

Naruto realized she wasn't being normal and told her to stop. Why he turned her down is not important but what matters as far as this silver-medal argument is concerned is that Naruto did not accept her confession. Only when he feels that Sakura truly loves him will he accept her. So he should not be considered a second-choice.

Relying on a statistic doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense in a show with talking animals.  It also doesn't change the fact that NS relies on alot of outside sources to actually get its feet off the ground. 

Its not statistic, its the way of life. Its common sense. What does the story being fictional have to do with aspects of life? Why do you support NaruSaku then? Is it not because that relationship is more reality-like than any other possible pairing? Why do you hate SasuSaku? Is it not because some of the things that Sasuke has done to Sakura are unforgivable in real life? It matters not if the story is fictional, certain things must follow the ideals and ways of real life.

 

What outside sources are heavily influencing the things you love about NS? Did someone force Naruto to make the PoAL? Did someone force Sakura to show an unwavering support to making Naruto's dreams come true? Is it because of the influence of other characters that Naruto and Sakura have couple-like interactions with each other, care for and support each other, protect each other, make each other smile and provide a shoulder to each other during sad times??? No outside source led to the wonderful chemistry between Naruto and Sakura. Its just natural.


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Posted 24 August 2014 - 01:44 PM

Much as I am waiting for the new chapter, I'm going to be away till Wednesday, but I should still be in and out for some stuff. Maybe Ill see the chapter in the morning or not as usual but oh well. Ill be back in few days.


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Posted 24 August 2014 - 01:51 PM

I still want Hanabi to lead the clan.


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Posted 24 August 2014 - 01:54 PM

I still want Hanabi to lead the clan.

Highly improbable. NH isn't gonna be canon so Hinata needs a shining ending. She will earn the respect of her father and become a great clan-leader. She will make her father feel proud.


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Posted 24 August 2014 - 01:54 PM

This is so off-topic but I just learned there's a time skip mode for Dora the kittening Explorer. What! What the hell! What? Is this year the year of time skip? Did someone inform Kishi that this is the year so he has to make "The Last" as a time skip, which people still don't know it's part 3 or not?! It's like all coming together. Man, no one wants to stay one timeline anymore. If Pokemon has Ash being any older than 10, the end is coming!

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