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#2861 tricksie

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 03:33 AM

QUOTE (Miss Soupy @ Apr 28 2011, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have to agree with Paptala that the panel is really about Sakura's muddled feelings towards Naruto. Not so much a why does she love him, but more of a wow, she really really does love him. Sakura already knew way back when that Hinata watched him all the time, and perhaps could have thought Hinata either had a crush on him or admired him, but now Sakura sees that Hinata loves him. I always thought it was interesting that the person Kishi chose to put emphasis on Hinata's confession wasn't Naruto at all, but Sakura. It's not Naruto who is struck by the weight of it, but Sakura, whose love is constantly evolving compared to Hinata's. Sakura has little reason to be worrying over Hinata's love life, but she has every reason to worry about her inability to define her own. I think that is why she looks so sad. Hinata knows exactly how she feels, and has for a long time. But Sakura doesn't, or when she thought she did everything changed. What Sakura probably does know at that point is that she depends on Naruto a lot. This could even be a tie in to the incoming guilt trip Sai presents. Naruto really is her strength; Sakura just needs to come to terms with how she can deal with this and not feel like she is burdening him.


I had a crazy, crazy day...so I had lots of time to think about your post while I was stuck in traffic.

I like the thought of Sakura's love still evolving — such a good way to put it.

And you're right about the emphasis being on Sakura here, rather than Naruto. We see her reaction alone. Not Naruto's. And I agree that it's significant. She sees that Hinata is aware that he's growing and changing. Recognizes it, and acts on it. She sees that the whole village is aware of it, and then she hugs him.

And it's a direct line to her confession to Naruto, saying she had watched him grow and that she wa just one of many villagers who loved him now. I think this was spurred by Hinata's actions, helping her shed light on her own feelings.

Because ultimately, in Sakura's confession, more than empty "I love yous," she is recognizing him and his growth. Seeing him for what he truly is. And in the very, very beginning, when Sakura said she wanted Sasuke to recognize her, Naruto said he understood. That was all he wanted too. So in her confession, it was about recognizing him. For Naruto, that's the ultimate expression of love, as he said so early in the manga. Not running out and passively dying for him (a la Hinata).

...so tired...hope I'm making sense....

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 03:51 AM

QUOTE (Darth Krypt @ Apr 30 2011, 02:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dude if you put it like that you make it sound as if Sakura is their daughter. We don't want this forum to end up supporting incest now do we? huh.gif


im just bored....of waiting for the next narusaku moments T^T just bringing up things.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 05:42 AM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Apr 29 2011, 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im just bored....of waiting for the next narusaku moments T^T just bringing up things.

Speaking of Narusaku moments, have I made it clear that I want a ton more, literally one or two every episode would really soothe my soul.
Which includes an amazing love scene.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 02:19 PM

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ya know has anyone noticed that sakura looks like minato? i mean their faces.....they both have those eyes and slender faces. i know kushina acts more like sakura, but seriously am i the only one that sees this????


Hm, interesting. I never noticed but it's cool that you mentioned something like that. They are also quite intelligent, so I guess they have another trait in common.

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Dude if you put it like that you make it sound as if Sakura is their daughter. We don't want this forum to end up supporting incest now do we?


lol, you reminded me of the time the entire Harry Potter fandom went crazy when someone got the idea Hermione could be Harry's sister. So please don't spread this joke, because I can actually see NaruSaku haters switching from 'they're best friends, nothing's going on between them' to 'eww, they could be siblings'.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 02:41 PM

QUOTE (Kim @ Apr 30 2011, 08:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hm, interesting. I never noticed but it's cool that you mentioned something like that. They are also quite intelligent, so I guess they have another trait in common.


Well ONE of them needs to be smart, because Naruto can be a bit of an idiot. Though I have noticed he is good at saving money.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 02:57 PM

Yeah, it kinda makes you wonder how Naruto ended up being a bit dense. His father was very intelligent and smart.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 03:25 PM

QUOTE (merryGOflava @ Apr 30 2011, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ya know has anyone noticed that sakura looks like minato? i mean their faces.....they both have those eyes and slender faces. i know kushina acts more like sakura, but seriously am i the only one that sees this????

(just bringing something up)


Umm I don't see it honestly besides we all KNOW Sakura is from a different family. normal? yes. never introduced? DEFINITELY. so lets just forget that new topic! well not new just no one responded to this before really yeah What do think will happen when our couple next meets? will they hug, make out tongue.gif, or I imagine cool.gif Sakura saying "BAKA!!!!! You shouldn't be here! Madara wants to take the Kyuubi from you!!! don't you know that?! Naruto will respond " I"m NOT letting anone else die Sakura-chan! I DON't want to lose more friends! Sakura counters "OF COURSE NOT!!! But why do you think they're fighting!? they are prepared to fight for their world so that they can protect their friends and family! AND YOU!!! Why are you here?! If Madara captures you the world will suffer, And you'll DIE!!!! *eyes brimming with tears* "I don't want that...... *sob*" Naruto: .....I'm sorry Sakura-chan, But I can't watch my comrades be killed, but I promise I won't die. Sakura wipe her eyes : You mean that? Honestly? Naruto : honestly... *Sakura hugs him and buries her face in his chest* : you idiot...

anyways GREETINGS TO THE KAGES!!! Smiter, Sakura Blossoms, Nate River, and Derock hello and my respect to you all laugh.gif

Edited by Phantom_999, 30 April 2011 - 03:28 PM.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 03:43 PM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Apr 30 2011, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Umm I don't see it honestly besides we all KNOW Sakura is from a different family. normal? yes. never introduced? DEFINITELY. so lets just forget that new topic! well not new just no one responded to this before really yeah What do think will happen when our couple next meets? will they hug, make out tongue.gif, or I imagine cool.gif Sakura saying "BAKA!!!!! You shouldn't be here! Madara wants to take the Kyuubi from you!!! don't you know that?! Naruto will respond " I"m NOT letting anone else die Sakura-chan! I DON't want to lose more friends! Sakura counters "OF COURSE NOT!!! But why do you think they're fighting!? they are prepared to fight for their world so that they can protect their friends and family! AND YOU!!! Why are you here?! If Madara captures you the world will suffer, And you'll DIE!!!! *eyes brimming with tears* "I don't want that...... *sob*" Naruto: .....I'm sorry Sakura-chan, But I can't watch my comrades be killed, but I promise I won't die. Sakura wipe her eyes : You mean that? Honestly? Naruto : honestly... *Sakura hugs him and buries her face in his chest* : you idiot...

anyways GREETINGS TO THE KAGES!!! Smiter, Sakura Blossoms, Nate River, and Derock hello and my respect to you all laugh.gif

I would change one thing, the part where Sakura wipes her eyes, I would instead have Naruto clean her face, with his hand.

Edited by bthug, 30 April 2011 - 06:16 PM.


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Posted 30 April 2011 - 05:10 PM

QUOTE (bthug @ Apr 30 2011, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would change one thing, the part where Sakura wipes her eyes, I would instead Naruto to clean her face with his hand.


Or a new promise of a life time! "Come back to me Naruto, alive, and be by my side forever."

That would be great. A real twist to the promise of a life time thing in Naruto.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 05:34 PM

Any of those would work but you still like the rest of my what if situation right? wow.png

Edited by Phantom_999, 30 April 2011 - 05:37 PM.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (Phantom_999 @ Apr 30 2011, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Any of those would work but you still like the rest of my what if situation right? wow.png

Yep, even though I'm not that far in the anime so I have no idea what your talking about. laugh.gif
By the way, that would be so epic if she made him make another promise. If it was something along the romantic lines, then OMG that would be so cute. I would love that.
I could see that happening, but I could also see it not happening just cause it hasn't or won't it Kishi.

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 08:33 PM

QUOTE (ahmed @ Apr 29 2011, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WOW, It is the first time that i see Miss Soupy says that cool.gif biggrin.gif .but i am happy to see this
What was that panel that you was talking about?can i know?
Sorry for interrupting your discussion

We were talking about the panel where Sakura heals Hinata and thinks about how Hinata feels about him. Also, the point I was making was that Sakura realized how much Hinata loved Naruto... tongue.gif

QUOTE (tricksie @ Apr 29 2011, 11:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And it's a direct line to her confession to Naruto, saying she had watched him grow and that she wa just one of many villagers who loved him now. I think this was spurred by Hinata's actions, helping her shed light on her own feelings.

Because ultimately, in Sakura's confession, more than empty "I love yous," she is recognizing him and his growth. Seeing him for what he truly is. And in the very, very beginning, when Sakura said she wanted Sasuke to recognize her, Naruto said he understood. That was all he wanted too. So in her confession, it was about recognizing him. For Naruto, that's the ultimate expression of love, as he said so early in the manga. Not running out and passively dying for him (a la Hinata).

...so tired...hope I'm making sense....

That's a good point too, and I agree completely. I have always been less interested in Sakura's 'I love you' to Naruto, but more moved by the moment when she hugs him and is truly open with him about what he means to her. That moment, and that moment alone (during the confession), is one that cannot be denied as a step forward for Sakura's feelings towards Naruto. And yes, of all the characters, Sakura is the character that is given the most emphasis as far as evolving feelings. In fact that is pretty much her focus. And really, what's more important to the story as a whole? Sakura acknowledging and falling in love with Naruto or Sakura forgiving Sasuke and maintaining her onesided love for him?

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 09:41 PM

OH! I just remembered another piece of proof that Sakura doesn't love Sasuke romantically anymore. in chapter 485 when Naruto and Sasuke were about to clash Sakura only showed concern for Naruto she shouted only his name remember? laugh.gif she didn't shout Sasuke's name

here: http://www.mangaread...hapter-485.html

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Posted 30 April 2011 - 10:04 PM

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That's a good point too, and I agree completely. I have always been less interested in Sakura's 'I love you' to Naruto, but more moved by the moment when she hugs him and is truly open with him about what he means to her. That moment, and that moment alone (during the confession), is one that cannot be denied as a step forward for Sakura's feelings towards Naruto. And yes, of all the characters, Sakura is the character that is given the most emphasis as far as evolving feelings. In fact that is pretty much her focus. And really, what's more important to the story as a whole? Sakura acknowledging and falling in love with Naruto or Sakura forgiving Sasuke and maintaining her onesided love for him?


I also agree fully. The moments when she hugs him are the most genuine moments between them at that moment.
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Posted 30 April 2011 - 11:48 PM

Sigh* And yet after all this this time people still are saying Sakura was lying in her confession... but I suppose it really spoke to us like at first, however I'm happy hear that in the actual translation Kishimoto said Sakura was honest in her confession I thought" wow it makes all that time worth it since she just told Naruto the depth of her love for him" I admit I thought it was a lie because I expected a more positive response from Naruto, anyone here feel the same?

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Posted 01 May 2011 - 12:57 AM

Guys I have to confess, I became a true fan of this when I read the chapter about Sakuras confession. That is what turned me to this. I feel bad cause I feel that I'm not a true fan
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Posted 01 May 2011 - 02:10 AM

QUOTE (Yin Yang Knight @ Apr 30 2011, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Guys I have to confess, I became a true fan of this when I read the chapter about Sakuras confession. That is what turned me to this. I feel bad cause I feel that I'm not a true fan


Lol, don't worry about it, it's better late than never right?. I wasn't even a fan until the Tenchi Bridge scene with Yamato's unfinished sentence.
It's good to hear that scene actually converted someone over though, I can't tell you how many NaruHina/SasuSaku fans I've talked to that took that scene as confirmation of their own pairings.

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Posted 01 May 2011 - 02:31 AM

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Lol, don't worry about it, it's better late than never right?. I wasn't even a fan until the Tenchi Bridge scene with Yamato's unfinished sentence.
It's good to hear that scene actually converted someone over though, I can't tell you how many NaruHina/SasuSaku fans I've talked to that took that scene as confirmation of their own pairings.

Yea I was a fan the entire time, but I didn't really care so much, just because their wasn't that much emphasizes on romance, but I really really got into it after not only the tenchi bridge scene,(when she started crying for Naruto) but when Sakura brought Naruto notes and food while he was training, and they showed her thinking about him in her room and they showed that Naruto slept with the notes near his heart.

Also If her confession was true at 469, what comes next? I always feared that Naruto will just never get over that and Sakura might think Naruto doesn't like her and might suggest Hinata to go for him or something...that always scares me, cause it sounds plausible.

I had another thought what if Naruto ends with history repeating itself and Naruto now the Hokage and married to Sakura has to seal up the 9 tails in his son, but this time Naruto refuses and kills the 9tails or seals it back in himself.(that's just an outline, throw in some epic post marriage Narusaku moments and just some epic Naruto moments in general.)

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Posted 01 May 2011 - 09:25 AM

Yeah I didn't even know there was such a thing as PAIRING WARS until I discovered you could watch Naruto online then... ._. well I got stuck in this war... lol

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Posted 01 May 2011 - 10:46 AM

I got to know about pairing wars only when I started to read fanfiction, barely a couple of years ago tongue.gif .
Previous to that, I didn't have any strong preference, I was just going with what Kishi wanted to show us and anyway was more interested in the adventure side of the story. In fact, I only got interested in the romahtic part when Naruto made the promise of a lifetime to Sakura to bring Sasuke back....that was when I sat up and thought Whoa....That was indescribable ...and then and there decided that Naruto will have to finally win the heart of Sakura.




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