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[RedFaction]

 

Its still too early too judge the outcome. Just take a look at TL that had a big major boast in its first week on U.S soil. Eventually, it died down by its third week. If the film can duplicate what it did in its first week of screening, than its going to be a success. Just take a look at the volume of chapter 72. it;s first week sold under 900,000 copies. The following week was lest than 150,000, so its the duration of the film in theaters will determine its success. 

Well maybe it's too early to judge the outcome for sure but my gut feeling tells me the movie will be a success. If that turns out to be the case, then we're definitely going to see more of Boruto and SP will continue milking the Naruto brand forever. That is until there's nothing left and they find a new series to leech off of.

 

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Sad, but true.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

Well maybe it's too early to judge the outcome for sure but my gut feeling tells me the movie will be a success. If that turns out to be the case, then we're definitely going to see more of Boruto and SP will continue milking the Naruto brand forever. That is until there's nothing left and they find a new series to leech off of.

 

Sad, but true.

 

Well, that means we lost faith in humanity. 

[RedFaction]

 

Well, that means we lost faith in humanity. 

I don't know about that. Even though they may be successful now, I imagine people will get sick of this crap eventually and the anime/manga industry will have to change or it'll die out.

Edited by RedFaction, 10 August 2015 - 09:54 AM.

[James S Cassidy]

[Yyubie]

Told ya ... evil and bad guys always win. Look, that movie reach 2 mil in less than first week so the naruto hokage one shot success in luring fans to watch it.

 

Humanity starting to shifting ... bad become good and good become bad. Sasuke and Orchimaru still alive, got away from law, and got more than everything they ever wanted. That is solid prove that bad guy always win, Just need one word as ticket to heaven "IM SORRY" and everything will be forgiven.

[Shashank95]

"With plenty of anime portraying characters without development or capability of change and agency"

 

He hit the topic right on the head

[T XD]

True. That's how it is now.

[Nar123]

Told ya ... evil and bad guys always win. Look, that movie reach 2 mil in less than first week so the naruto hokage one shot success in luring fans to watch it.

 

Humanity starting to shifting ... bad become good and good become bad. Sasuke and Orchimaru still alive, got away from law, and got more than everything they ever wanted. That is solid prove that bad guy always win, Just need one word as ticket to heaven "IM SORRY" and everything will be forgiven.

 

Something can be successful and still be a kitten

 

Example: Twilight 

[Namaenash]

It looks like the new generation is going to be a success then. There's no doubt that there will be more to the Boruto story after this movie, even without Kishimoto. I think Studio Perriot and Shonen Jump could get away with anything they want now and people will eat it right up, just because it's Naruto.

 

Things don't look good for the anime/manga industry if this trend continues.

 

I stand by my words: numbers do not lie. We will get the overall picture in about a month from now, and that's where everybody can draw their conclusion. Whether they meet their minimum 2 million viewers or not, etc...

 

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: If the movie is successful, then it'll set the new standards in anime and manga industry. Meaning the animation studio doesn't have to follow strictly to the manga to be financially successful. They can do as much filler as they can, bend the story to their advantages... they can promote as much side characters... they can easily drop any meaningful morale messages and development just to satisfy certain group of viewers. They can even disrespect and put a middle finger to some segments of the fandom and still get away with their money.

 

The worst part? People are buying it. They just buy regardless of the destructive morale messages it delivers. New authors will look at Kishimoto as an example to follow to get a financial success. Pretty sad isn't it?

 

No, it doesn't mean it's the end of the world. It means that the new direction of the anime industry is not in favor of those who enjoy a good storytelling. Don't be surprised the on-going series you've been following now will end up in the way Naruto series ends --throwing away years of development just to grab a quick cash and satisfy those otaku pervert dreams.

 

All I can say is, I'm glad I stopped watching anime and reading manga for about 8 months now. I even stopped buying manga since November last year... That's quite something when you've been an active anime viewer and manga reader for 20+ years. The latest anime DVD that I bought was The Wind Rises, the latest manga volume that I bought was Silver Spoon.. I can't recall which volume it was... so, yeah, that's got to tell you something. And I have no urge to finish it. That little voice inside me who wanted to read manga was just... gone... It's really been a while for me to drop by the local book store which sell these goods.

 

Sometimes I go to my book shelves, or open my manga box/container to re-read the volumes that I own during my coffee break. Just to have a little laugh. But I can't recall when was the last time I did those things. Was it after New Year break earlier this year? can't remember...

 

For me, the appetite was somehow gone since few months back.... and nothing is more liberating...

[Nostradamus]

So it made 2 million in 3 days, I'm not going to lie that is impressive.

But let's wait and see how it goes in the long run. Because right now the success could be because people like it or because of the free chapter that came with it combined with all the ads of course. Which one it is? I don't know.

[Nar123]

So it made 2 million in 3 days, I'm not going to lie that is impressive.

But let's wait and see how it goes in the long run. Because right now the success could be because people like it or because of the free chapter that came with it combined with all the ads of course. Which one it is? I don't know.

 It made 630 or something million yen, a little more than the last in it's first two days

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Godzilla 98 had one successful weekend. After that it bombed.

[TouKen4Life3g]

 
Its still too early too judge the outcome. Just take a look at TL that had a big major boast in its first week on U.S soil. Eventually, it died down by its third week. If the film can duplicate what it did in its first week of screening, than its going to be a success. Just take a look at the volume of chapter 72. it;s first week sold under 900,000 copies. The following week was lest than 150,000, so its the duration of the film in theaters will determine its success. 

One thing to mention: it had a 3-day opening.

It's not that I'm taking away the accomplishment. Kudos to them to get this far. But it's like what I said yesterday, and it seems like everyone missed it, so shame on you (just kidding), that this movie was released on a Friday, which to my surprise, thought The Last was released on a Saturday. Yesterday, before stepping out, I was tracing on the box office and didn't understand why the numbers for weekend is different from the last year weekends. So I look at my last year calendar and found out that it was released on a Saturday. So I connect the dot and it made sense.

Now, back to the recent news, I have warned you that you will see the news saying it broke The Last. My problem is the lack of acknowledgement of The Last not having an extra day. In other words, who to say Boruto outperformed The Last if the latter had an extra day, which is crucial since Friday would help a lot. In fact, a lot of movies before August was released on a Saturday. Now I don't know about other Naruto movies before The Last, but since we are comparing to the last one, I thought it's unfair to even do the compare. Next thing I know a movie that is released on a Wednesday is compared to Friday with comparing to all sales, not just the weekend. The only interesting tidbit to me is the first two day did around 400 million yen while The Last did 515 million, which again only had two days.

Now, about the long running outcome, that I can't answer. It could be the same, a bit higher, or much higher. No one knows yet. Like some movies can really fall fast, some movies can have a steady race, and some movies can remain strong until a month later. I'll keep my eyes on it.

[Bail o' Lies]

It looks like the new generation is going to be a success then. There's no doubt that there will be more to the Boruto story after this movie, even without Kishimoto. I think Studio Perriot and Shonen Jump could get away with anything they want now and people will eat it right up, just because it's Naruto.

 

Things don't look good for the anime/manga industry if this trend continues.

5,459,699.60 USD (god damn the us dollar has gone down in recent years)

 

Ok time to see how many people have seen this 680,000,000 japan ticket prices are *looks up* 1500-1700 yen let us stick with 1500 yen. At least 453,333.33 people have seen it.

 

With that in mind when 2 mil people times 1500 yen go to see it it would have to make 3,000,000,000 yen... Wait, 3 billion yen!

Edited by Bail o' Lies, 10 August 2015 - 03:49 PM.

[Nostradamus]

 It made 630 or something million yen, a little more than the last in it's first two days

So it didn't made 2 million dollars yet?

[lupina]

I have the feeling this movie benefits a lot from "... at least its a lot better than the LAST!!!!" thing .... 

Edited by lupina, 10 August 2015 - 03:05 PM.

[redrose3443]

Not to mention it hardly focuses on the new generation, but on the money maker that is SasuNaru.

[Nostradamus]

 

I stand by my words: numbers do not lie. We will get the overall picture in about a month from now, and that's where everybody can draw their conclusion. Whether they meet their minimum 2 million viewers or not, etc...

 

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: If the movie is successful, then it'll set the new standards in anime and manga industry. Meaning the animation studio doesn't have to follow strictly to the manga to be financially successful. They can do as much filler as they can, bend the story to their advantages... they can promote as much side characters... they can easily drop any meaningful morale messages and development just to satisfy certain group of viewers. They can even disrespect and put a middle finger to some segments of the fandom and still get away with their money.

 

The worst part? People are buying it. They just buy regardless of the destructive morale messages it delivers. New authors will look at Kishimoto as an example to follow to get a financial success. Pretty sad isn't it?

 

No, it doesn't mean it's the end of the world. It means that the new direction of the anime industry is not in favor of those who enjoy a good storytelling. Don't be surprised the on-going series you've been following now will end up in the way Naruto series ends --throwing away years of development just to grab a quick cash and satisfy those otaku pervert dreams.

 

All I can say is, I'm glad I stopped watching anime and reading manga for about 8 months now. I even stopped buying manga since November last year... That's quite something when you've been an active anime viewer and manga reader for 20+ years. The latest anime DVD that I bought was The Wind Rises, the latest manga volume that I bought was Silver Spoon.. I can't recall which volume it was... so, yeah, that's got to tell you something. And I have no urge to finish it. That little voice inside me who wanted to read manga was just... gone... It's really been a while for me to drop by the local book store which sell these goods.

 

Sometimes I go to my book shelves, or open my manga box/container to re-read the volumes that I own during my coffee break. Just to have a little laugh. But I can't recall when was the last time I did those things. Was it after New Year break earlier this year? can't remember...

 

For me, the appetite was somehow gone since few months back.... and nothing is more liberating...

I know I've said this before one of your comments along with this one made me think about something a bit crazy. I wanted to explain it these days but just didn't had the time and wasn't even in the mood to write.

I'll try my best to write it tonight.

[TouKen4Life3g]

Not to mention it hardly focuses on the new generation, but on the money maker that is SasuNaru.

The way I see it is a tribute movie more so than put the new gen on the spotlight.

[BlackBird19]

The movie did about what I expected. Sasuke got a little more screen time and they made a little more money. But I'm pretty sure that those numbers won't be equaled next weekend. This was their big debut, where they make the bulk of their money until the movie opens in other markets around the world. However they always make most of their money in Japan so I don't expect great things from those other markets. And with no more Naruto manga being announced to come out in the near future, I actually expected the numbers to be higher with people wanting to get one last Naruto fix. So this opening is kind of "meh" to me.