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#2861 Ausakura

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:23 PM

meh...while that may be true, there's evidence to support the idea of sakura moving on but for naruto not really. The absence of him asking sakura out on dates is also not good enough to show that possibility.

It's not the absence of comical scenes, but the absence of his romantic toughts about anyone. They're a mystery. The last time when he really demonstrated something was in Sai's flashback about why he didn't declare to Sakura yet. It's a fact that he loves (or loved) her, but it's also a fact that Naruto never made any question of being in a serious relationship with her. He accepts anything she can offer to him.

 

After Hinata's confession at the Pain arc, Naruto just frost his romantic side. We know that he still likes Sakura, but we don't know the current level of it and if he has something in development for Hinata. And if you ask me... Games, fillers, and etc with NH materal now looks like that everything was to prepare land for those two. 

 

If Naruto stays with Hinata, it'll have a great message! It'll mean that things don't have to be decided only by fate, that you can give a chance to live something different out of the boderlines of the previsible. Parallels, past events, development in the trash... This is all about maturity. Who never spent a lot of time in a crush to someone that simply didn't work out? NS have a great storyline, they share a beautiful bond of friendship and care, they share a huge karma (the fool boy, the smart girl and the dark friend)... It's really cool. But it's not just because you want something that you'll get it. Life is about some things not going accord with the plans very well, as well!

It's true, Naruto's the main character... But that means that everything will go as he pleases? 

 

That's not the only positive message that NH can send, but I'm not going deep on this because I really don't want to sound like a shipper. I'm just accepting things... I prefer NS over any other pairings, but if things have to go like this... I'm finding the animation really gorgeous, but I'm not satisfied with the plot, it sounds too generic... :( The only thing I hope is that there's more about the movie than just this NH romance between the end of the world. If Sakura had an big role in the movie too it would be awesome! A love triangle is better, it's always better. 


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:27 PM

the plot sounds like even the most optimistic NH fanfiction


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:27 PM

Naruto told his father that Sakura was basically his girlfriend recently so...yeah. I think it's pretty clear he very much still loves her.

 

 

It's not the absence of comical scenes, but the absence of his romantic toughts about anyone. They're a mystery. The last time when he really demonstrated something was in Sai's flashback about why he didn't declare to Sakura yet. It's a fact that he loves (or loved) her, but it's also a fact that Naruto never made any question of being in a serious relationship with her. He accepts anything she can offer to him.

 

After Hinata's confession at the Pain arc, Naruto just frost his romantic side. We know that he still likes Sakura, but we don't know the current level of it and if he has something in development for Hinata. And if you ask me... Games, fillers, and etc with NH materal now looks like that everything was to prepare terrain for those two. 

 

If Naruto stays with Hinata, it'll have a great message! It'll mean that things don't have to be decided only by fate, that you can give a chance to live something different out of the boderlines of the previsible. Parallels, past events, development in the trash... This is all about maturity. Who never spent a lot of time in a crush to someone that simply didn't work out? NS have a great storyline, they share a beautiful bond of friendship and care, they share a huge karma (the fool boy, the smart girl and the dark friend)... It's really cool. But it's not just because you want something that you'll get it. Life is about some things not going accord with the plans very well, as well!

It's true, Naruto's the main character... But that means that everything will go as he pleases? 

 

That's not the only positive message that NH can send, but I'm not going deep on this because I really don't want to sound like a shipper. I'm just accepting things... I prefer NS over any other pairings, but if things have to go like this... I'm finding the animation really gorgeous, but I'm not satisfied with the plot, it sounds too generic... :( The only thing I hope is that there's more about the movie than just this NH romance between the end of the world. If Sakura had an big role in the movie too it would be awesome! A love triangle is better, it's always better.

 

 

Just wait and see, a lot of your posts since yesterday have been negative. There are still so many mysteries about this movie. I'm not gonna let SP effect my outlook, they have an agenda. They're not subtle about it, just don't let it get to you.

 

This thread for the past two days has been mostly people jumping the gun COMPLETELY with no proof, just assumptions. We've gotten 3 trolls that I hope have been taken care of and I'm sure more are gonna be on the way.

 

We just got to wait it out. Everything will be clear soon.


Edited by Geninja, 31 October 2014 - 02:31 PM.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:28 PM

waddya know I was right...you gained some of your confidence back now?

 

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:29 PM


Yeah I can totally see this conversation. It doesnt have to be romantic.

Yep! And since we're apparently going to get backstory about the Hyuuga clan, this would fit well imo (esp if during that conversation Hinata tells us something that we never knew in the manga).

On more important matter! In the info we got. It says, the new enemy attacks Konoha and easily deafeats Naruto and ko. How is this posible? Naruto was slightly below Kaguya (The god of chakra). And if Kishi had Naruto use full power all the time, instead only in dramatic moments (deflecting 5 BD, riping Kaguya's arm). He would probably be Kaguya's equal power wise. So how can someone easily deafeat Naruto?


Lol! Currently at least 90% of NH fandom is celabrating and mocking us! I can't wait for the nexy week to have NS canon. So I can laugh! :D

Naruto doesn't have the Sage's power anymore... Or he shouldn't at least, but in the trailer we saw him flying (he could have jumped off a really high platform I guess, but how did he manuever in the air like that?)

the plot sounds like even the most optimistic NH fanfiction

It really does. Crazy.

Maybe they went through the NH fics on fanfiction.net to get some inspiration.

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:30 PM

Naruto told his father that Sakura was basically his girlfriend recently so...yeah. I think it's pretty clear he very much still loves her.


Minato and Kushina gave NS their blessing and never interacted with Hinata so it wouldn't make any sense at this point for NH to happen with both of his parent dying thinking about NS

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:31 PM

As far as I'm concerned, it isn't over until the movie comes out and has NH as endgame. I still don't think that's going to happen. I won't let marketing ruin things for me. That spot is reserved for actual canon.

 

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:32 PM

it's...sorta possible..it's a time-skip after all, what if Naruto gave up on Sakura because she couldn't bring herself to love him and she just wanted to be alone? :|
 
and then again what if we're exaggerating and the movie is only about Hinata wanting to give Naruto a scarf?
 
but then again,the whole "I have something to tell you so wait for me" was confirmed for Hinata :/ ..
 
Why is it that all of a sudden it's about NH? After her confession he still wasn't into her and now all of a sudden he is? why are they doing this??


It was not confirmed for Hinata.

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:33 PM

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I swear I think Naruto's new hair makes him look younger, not older.



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:34 PM

So anyone curious what Sakura is telling Hinata? Its obviously about Naruto.

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:34 PM

It's not the absence of comical scenes, but the absence of his romantic toughts about anyone. They're a mystery. The last time when he really demonstrated something was in Sai's flashback about why he didn't declare to Sakura yet. It's a fact that he loves (or loved) her, but it's also a fact that Naruto never made any question of being in a serious relationship with her. He accepts anything she can offer to him.

 

After Hinata's confession at the Pain arc, Naruto just frost his romantic side. We know that he still likes Sakura, but we don't know the current level of it and if he has something in development for Hinata. And if you ask me... Games, fillers, and etc with NH materal now looks like that everything was to prepare terrain for those two. 

 

If Naruto stays with Hinata, it'll have a great message! It'll mean that things don't have to be decided only by fate, that you can give a chance to live something different out of the boderlines of the previsible. Parallels, past events, development in the trash... This is all about maturity. Who never spent a lot of time in a crush to someone that simply didn't work out? NS have a great storyline, they share a beautiful bond of friendship and care, they share a huge karma (the fool boy, the smart girl and the dark friend)... It's really cool. But it's not just because you want something that you'll get it. Life is about some things not going accord with the plans very well, as well!

It's true, Naruto's the main character... But that means that everything will go as he pleases? 

 

That's not the only positive message that NH can send, but I'm not going deep on this because I really don't want to sound like a shipper. I'm just accepting things... I prefer NS over any other pairings, but if things have to go like this... I'm finding the animation really gorgeous, but I'm not satisfied with the plot, it sounds too generic... :( The only thing I hope is that there's more about the movie than just this NH romance between the end of the world. If Sakura had an big role in the movie too it would be awesome! A love triangle is better, it's always better. 

 

Speaking solely from a writer's perspective, I don't think it works there either.  What it is saying is that the hero who never gives up, who has tried his damndest to defy the shortcomings of those who came before him, still fails to defy those shortcomings, and is stuck with a one-dimensional insert for lonely fangirls.  That's...not a happy ending.

 

For all her faults, Sakura is a character.  One that like Naruto, grows and matures with the story.  She has her own arc, her own conflicts, her own desires.  And I'd rather have two characters come together than a character and a flat insert.



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:35 PM

It was not confirmed for Hinata.

Yup. Trailers put unrelated sentences together a lot. Don't cry uncle yet.

 

 

Oh, and the NH fandom? Let them be happy. And who cares if they're mocking us? I do my best to respect others, but it's not like in the privacy of my own home, my brother and I don't mock pairing war drama. Which includes the NH fandom. So, can't say I haven't mocked them, though I try not to do do maliciously.


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:35 PM

Naruto told his father that Sakura was basically his girlfriend recently so...yeah. I think it's pretty clear he very much still loves her.

 

That's why I keep saying here people should remember manga. We have the manga on our side. Kishi can make as many NH past intereraction. But that still doesn't change that even after all that, Naruto still called Sakura his GF!

 

People keep saying it will be OP etc etc. Because Kishi wouldn't spoil the movie. But he spoiled the manga for Naruto vs Sasuke. Something that was 999999999999% more important then romance subplot.

 

NS will be canon. I expect big NS moment in the last chapter. Followed by NS being canon in epilogue!


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:35 PM

The screenshots look gorgeous. :love:

 

I miss sasuke's duckbutt hair. :sick:



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:36 PM

So anyone curious what Sakura is telling Hinata? Its obviously about Naruto.

She's telling her how small Naruto's kitten is.



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:37 PM

Naruto told his father that Sakura was basically his girlfriend recently so...yeah. I think it's pretty clear he very much still loves her.

 

 

 

Just wait and see, a lot of your posts since yesterday have been negative. There are still so many mysteries about this movie. I'm not gonna let SP effect my outlook, they have an agenda. They're not subtle about it, just don't let it get to you.

 

This thread for the past two days has been mostly people jumping the gun COMPLETELY with no proof, just assumptions. We've gotten 3 trolls that I hope have been taken care of and I'm sure more are gonna be on the way.

 

We just got to wait it out. Everything will be clear soon.

My posts? They're not negative! I'm just dealing with reality.

Negativity would be like "I'm done with this movie! NH is canon! NS has sunk to the bottom of the nothingness!! Kishi you bastard! I don't want to see this anymore!" My perspectives about NS being developed in this movie are very low, that's correct. But I'm just interpreting all the infos that are coming to us. I still am waiting to be surprised as I have been in RTN!  

 

I agree we just have to wait until the very end to see.



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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:38 PM

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This scene with Hinata takes place outside of Konoha, so some place while on the mission they discuss things about Hanabi. Something like Hinata's resolve. 


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:38 PM

The screenshots look gorgeous. :love:

 

 

 

Putting my dislike for NH and my bias away. I got to say. Hinata looks beautiful! :D


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:38 PM

You know, I should ask questions and see what I can gathered from you guys. Give me a moment. At the least it change things up here.

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 02:39 PM

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This scene with Hinata takes place outside of Konoha, so some place while on the mission they discuss things about Hanabi. Something like Hinata's resolve. 

 

it seems an italian place lol
 


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