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[Chatte]

Hun, I just wanted to let you know I couldn't help myself and posted it on Tumblr, with credits and all! http://chatte-georgi...girl-credits-to

And if someone dares to claim it as theirs, they're gonna have a problem with me! Funny I have found all the places my edits went so I am like.. THIS IS MINE, where''s the credit? 

[T XD]

I did a short comic sketch that I would to happen... or something like it anyway . I just want Sakura to help in the fight with Sasuke if it should come >_< I also want her to punch Sasuke hard, at least once   

 

Comic Sketch

 

It's just a small, quick sketch I did. If the dialogue or drawings seems weird or ooc don't think too much of it

Great and awesome sketch you did there and it's really not OOC or anything at all. It can fit in the story. Looking forward for the forehead scene if you did it.

 

Kudos coolcatjas XD

[Chatte]

Oh, God here goes the drama with some SS fans that follow me by posting the comic... God, really, canțt just people accept the fact that is just a comic?

[六道仙人]

Oh, God here goes the drama with some SS fans that follow me by posting the comic... God, really, canțt just people accept the fact that is just a comic?

 

oh they got upset for the comic? I wonder why...   

[Lalufuffy]

Ah, so much good stuff.

 

I dont like how the consensus is that Sakura is suffering, sad, and in pain. Not debating whether its true, but I just don't like it cause it implies that she really had a serious thing for Sasuke. I was leaning more towards her "love" being misplaced, cause we were never really given a reason as too why she like him in the first place. Other then maybe his looks, being cool, and strong all very trivial things.

 

I was kind of hoping Karin showing up to the battlefield would help her realize this, but looks like Kishi has something much more complex planned.

 

Seeing how I have no idea what he's planning, I hope he ends SS soon and not with a fight, I cant see them fighting. If they do I hope Sasuke is on the verge of killing Sakura and Naruto takes the blow, but thats kind of happened already. Besides Naruto and everyone else would have to allow them to fight in the first place, but I digress 

 

I hope Kishi ends SS soon and dedicates the rest of the time to Sakura's realization to Naruto being her love. 

 

I wrote this in another forum:

 

Even though I'd rather see the calm and confident Sakura, that kind of ambiguous writing isn't all 
that bad either. I know this is a typical Shonen series but Kishi at least tries to suggest what 
could happen if this manga had a different genre.
Furthermore, Naruto has been running for 14 years. Kishi can't draw more than one manga but 
he can at least show the readers that he might have chosen a completely different 
plot development at some points. He just wants to get the most out of this series.
I hope you understand what I mean by that, sry for my bad English lol.

 

Sakura has that creepy smile for the sake of ambigous writing. 

We'll definitely see the calm and confident Sakura again, soon.

Edited by Lalufuffy, 21 June 2013 - 11:00 AM.

[Chatte]

 

oh they got upset for the comic? I wonder why... 

I'd post what she wrote here but dunno if it's considered bashing... ANd I am not intending it to be viewed as bashing, just something to debate upon.

Gah she really had me furious with this one!

[六道仙人]

I'd post what she wrote here but dunno if it's considered bashing... ANd I am not intending it to be viewed as bashing, just something to debate upon.

Gah she really had me furious with this one!

 

Uh, I'm curios what this girl have said if you got so upset

[Inferno180]

After reading the "SS as written is impossible to happen in the manga" well, to me its just again to hard to even imagine going forward. Just SS going cannon would be a very big mess still, NH at least has a small amount of basis Kishi could have expanded on but he didn't. But with SS, its just too much already as a mess. It was not a big surprise reading something like that about all the issues with trying to make them somehow better at this point but you cannot just skip 2/3 of the story just to make something canon.

[arian_rad]

I'd post what she wrote here but dunno if it's considered bashing... ANd I am not intending it to be viewed as bashing, just something to debate upon.
Gah she really had me furious with this one!

If they're upset over a fan drawn comic, it just goes to show how on the brink of breaking sasusaku is. They are all so worried and scared it might end any manga that it effects them hard. Let them say all they want in my opinion. And this is not bashing, it's the truth.

[Chatte]

Ok, so I posted the comic...

And her first reaction was this

 

 

oh my kittening gooooood

i never thought i’d say this about people who follow a manga

but whoever drew that comic with sasuke stabbing sakura and sakura protecting naruto, then punching sasuke

you do not respect these characters

you do not like them

you do not want them to have a happy ending

all because you want your precious narusaku to happen

and anyone who wants this scenario to happen, would you wake the kitten up already? this would utterly break naruto and sakuras heart if it turned out that they had to turn against sasuke in the end. Sakura would NOT protect naruto with kittening pride if it meant having to kill the guy she loves. YES, loves, because she never stopped loving him when he was at his worst and to do so now would make no damn sense. Naruto never gave up on him at his worst, and for it all to kitten on him now would mean that he was wrong all this time about Sasuke.

You all harp on and kittening on about how he’s the main character and gets whatever he wants, but you ignore the fact that he wants his friend back, HAS wanted his friend back more than anything. You cant kittening pick and choose what he gets to have (even though he hasn’t expressed a desire for sakura in for kittening ever) and what he doesn’t.

kitten your theory, kitten that comic, and have fun when it never happens. i will be laughing all damn day

 

And then she posted this

 

im utterly disgusted by that comic

rage. utter rage

and my anons say I disrespect the characters by wanting sasuke and sakura to find happiness with each other?

give me a kittening break

I knew both of them were posted in my direction because she's kinda looking for a fight with me for a long time.

So then, I responded...

 

 

 

 chatte-georgiana said: I would say you need to take it easy. Others have done fanfics and stuff like that too, where Hinata kills Sakura for Naruto or something like that, yet, no one screamed they hate. To each his own, really.

 

And her answer was this

 

 

No. It doesn’t matter if there are fanfiction in the world that are also completely deplorable to the characters (and lets be honest, you know those type of fanfiction must have got plenty of hateful reviews as well). It doesn’t matter if it’s a piece of fanart. I don’t care if it’s someones opinion either, to be honest. If I have something to criticize about it, I am going to criticize it and rightfully express my anger.

I’m not taking it easy, not when I am always harped on for not respecting the characters, namely Sakura for wanting her to be happy with Sasuke, but somehow having this girl give up on her hope, on her goal of protecting both sasuke and Naruto, is doing her justice?

And Sasuke is one of my favorite characters in the manga, and it is beyond annoying to see his character twisted into doing something all for the sake of upping narusaku’s chances, never mind that Naruto and Sakura would never be happy again if it turns out they had to fight Sasuke because he was ‘evil’. 

I’m sure there were PLENTY of times when you talked about how something in this fandom annoyed you too. Please don’t tell me to take it easy just because I don’t happen to agree with this horrible scenario and think it’s terrible for all the characters involved. 

 

And then I answered this
 

 

Well, than why not criticize those as well or those where Sakura is raped by Sasuke. Come on, really.

Not respecting the characters??? Let’s kittening talk about Sasuke respecting Sakura and Naruto then. Yes, I like him too but that doesn’t mean I am going to give credit or be ok with the kittening things he’s done in this manga! He’s been pursuing a path that he knows it hurts his best friends. He tried to kill both of them several times so don’t give me the happy ending crap, please!

And no, this is not for a happy NaruSaku thing. If you saw, that was just a part, the continuing can involve so many possibilities!

And his character is twisted in the cannon manga as well so don’t give me the crap people twist him. HE IS CANNONICALLY TWISTED! He is trying atm to kill all the Bijuus not thinking about the fact that his kittening best friend has a bijuu inside him! DO you really think Sakura will just let him?
If you’re happy about the fact that EACH TIME when Sasuke is around Sakura is unhappy as kitten, than sure, go ahead! But don’t go telling me that it’s a thing that disrespects the characters because it’s NOT! And you know it.
And if you think that Sakura would let Sasuke harm in any way Naruto, sorry but you’re wrong. And this has nothing to do with the pairing itself, it has to do with Sakura’s self-awareness! She knows Sasuke is not the good guy she wanted him to be and if she didn’t leave him to do what he wants, once, what makes you think she’ll do it now?
You forget the Chuunin exams, the Forest of Death, her engaging him so many times, just for Naruto’s sake?! Really? IF it fits your perfect scenario, than sure, go ahead. But the manga facts are there.
Sakura won’t let anything happen to Naruto, especially because of Sasuke, whether people like it or not, and it has at least NOTHING to do with pairings. So don’t give me the “for you narusaku scenario crap”.

But it’s not like you’re going to change your opinion and I fear it’s going to hit you hard, no offense, when something like this is going to happen. Because it will. Sure, maybe not exactly this way, but we all know it will. Parallels and foreshadowings are a lot to be a proof.

And don’t bother replying back, because we both know we’re not going to agree with this. You’ll speak from your SS perspective while I will speak not from NS perspective, but from Sakura’s. A perspective I am sure you won’t accept. And don’t worry, I am aware of Sakura’s feelings for Sasuke and I accepted them like I told you many times, however, at the same time, unlike you and other people, I am aware of her feelings for Naruto, something you never accepted that I’m afraid it will hit you hard when it’s going to be something undeniably cannonical.

So as I said, to each his own.

 

And her answer

 

You really don’t think I would criticize a scenario of Sasuke RAPING Sakura? Are you serious right now?

The only reason why I haven’t is because I have never seen that kitten, and it really shouldn’t take much to guess that I would never approve of something like that. Ever. You are twisting my critique of a scenario around and making me look terrible for it because I don’t dare criticize all the terrible depictions of the characters out there. If I were to do that, I would be on tumblr all damn day.

But seriously, I shouldn’t have to out and out say ‘hey Sasuke would never rape Sakura!’ for people to get that I would never condone that. I shouldn’t have to talk about literally every problem I see within the fandom in order to express my opinion on one matter. 

You are not understanding the broader picture of what fighting Sasuke means, what Sasuke being wholly EVIL means to the story. Sasuke doesn’t do anything without good reason, killing the bijju for one, because of the villages need to fight each other to obtain that power. And Sasuke fighting Naruto to kill the kyuubi is a guess, and a faulty one at that, because for Sasuke to out and out try and kill the village hero would turn everybody against him immediately, thus rendering him irredeemable. And that would never happen in this manga, that’s not hard to see. 

Attacking his teammates is a whole other ballgame because time after time, THEY came after HIM when he repeatedly told them to leave him alone. The only time Sauske was completely in the wrong was when he stabbed Karin, but you like that pairing for whatever reason so I’m not sure why you think he doesn’t deserve to be in Naruto and Sakura’ presence, but with Karin it’s totally okay. 

And I never said Sakura wouldn’t give it her all to protect Naruto if she perceived a threat against I’m. I am saying the idea of protecting him from SASUKE is completely out of whack. 

And oh, I am so throwing that happy ending crap at you. Because this manga is Naruto, and a happy ending it pretty much a given just because of that.  

Speaking of happiness, was I imagining Sakura smiling widely when Sasuke came to protect her? I must have been.

But I’m done here. I would have happily continued this conversation more if you didn’t make that nasty comment of me daring not to criticize all the raptastic sasuke fics in the world. 

I still didn't posted an answer cause I just saw this one.

As I said, this is just for debating purposes, not bashing or anything!

Edited by Chatte, 21 June 2013 - 11:44 AM.

[Canadian_DJ]

LadyGT's new artwork!!!! 
 

WOW

Naruto training with  Sasuke how to ask Sakura  in marriage! 

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*heart attack*

Oh myy gOd!!! Thats so GOOD! and so in character!!

[六道仙人]

Well, that's sad... I wonder why she has reacted in that way... I guess that she's a little worried about SS about last events and maybe she's a little afraid from NS.

 

When a person reacts like so, that often means that he's unsecure about something.

 

Luckly I'm ignoring to debate with opposite fandoms since years... I just read some their opiniones sometimes but I never debated to these.

[Chatte]

Well, that's sad... I wonder why she has reacted in that way... I guess that she's a little worried about SS about last events and maybe she's a little afraid from NS.

 

When a person reacts like so, that often means that he's unsecure about something.

 

Luckly I'm ignoring to debate with opposite fandoms since years... I just read some their opiniones sometimes but I never debated to these.

I usually ignore those posts as well, but this time she directly attacked me, so to speak. Plus, I felt very offended by her reaction. For Gods sake there were posts in the Sakura tag with people saying about nasty fics where Sakura gets killed by Hinata in a very bad way or gets raped by Sasuke, yet, then she did not say anything. Yet now, on a comic thats so close to cannon situation reacts like that and disrespects the work of someone? Really now...

Not to mention she pretty much ignores the pain Sasuke brings to Sakura and acts like it is ok bringing all these arguments that somehow, goes around the whole cannon thing.

[arian_rad]

Ok, so I posted the comic...
And her first reaction was this
 
 
And then she posted this
I knew both of them were posted in my direction because she's kinda looking for a fight with me for a long time.
So then, I responded...
 
 
And her answer was this
 
 
And then I answered this
 
 
And her answer
I still didn't posted an answer cause I just saw this one.
As I said, this is just for debating purposes, not bashing or anything!

Seems to me that she is really afraid of narusaku. Lmfao

[Canadian_DJ]

I hope the next chapter will resolve Sakura's thoughts on Sasuke. Because it will really demage Sakura's character if Kishi waits until the end to resolve parings.
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Lol just lol! Se what people think of us (this site) and our opinions....

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But I shouldn't be to suprized. When they think Sasuke trying to kill Sakura is a positive sasusaku (they also claim that it doesn't cont since he was "crazy" then. But it's not right now. Lol as you can be crazy whenever you want) They also think naruhina/sausaku is canon for sure.
 
I read post like Sakura was finally redemed powerwise, but now she needs to reedem herself personality wise. I means just what?

Wow!!! Really??! they think we bash hinata and rip her apart??! Really hypocrisy at its FINEST!!! Actually, we dont bash hinata, if you get your facts right, which you never, you'd notice we have RULES of no bashing other fandoms and characters, ESPECIALLY HINATA AND YOUR "FANDOM". And yes, in a way we do rip things apart, but not in a bad way, we justify biased kitten translations and get our facts straight and arent biased, well we dont try to be biased. All we do is state the facts, like the fact that hinata isnt an important character and the fact that hinata has no significsnce to the story and the fact that shes a worthless sidr character with no meaning whatsoever-no let go of me!! - and naruto only held hinatas hand to lend her chakra and he did the same to the rest, NO ROMANCE THERE, if he held her hand for no reason I would say it was romantic, but no.

And I dont know about you guys, but I dont want sasuke to die, in fact hes my favourite.

[Inferno180]

I usually ignore those posts as well, but this time she directly attacked me, so to speak. Plus, I felt very offended by her reaction. For Gods sake there were posts in the Sakura tag with people saying about nasty fics where Sakura gets killed by Hinata in a very bad way or gets raped by Sasuke, yet, then she did not say anything. Yet now, on a comic thats so close to cannon situation reacts like that and disrespects the work of someone? Really now...

Not to mention she pretty much ignores the pain Sasuke brings to Sakura and acts like it is ok bringing all these arguments that somehow, goes around the whole cannon thing.

 

That is just wrong, I mean just really wrong. Sakura getting abused or killed in fanfic is okay but just wrong in a simple comic of her defending Naruto? I can understand how some would think that with the whole view of her being uneasy with Sasuke right now could lead to more NS stuff well, its just plain character development at this point, Sakura getting some changed view around Sasuke and possibly moving to Naruto was never out of the realm of possibility after all the events they went through and ever since Minato came in, well that just made things more likely than ever. People have their own views and are entitled to them but just some like those make it too out of context at times.

[Chatte]

 

That is just wrong, I mean just really wrong. Sakura getting abused or killed in fanfic is okay but just wrong in a simple comic of her defending Naruto? I can understand how some would think that with the whole view of her being uneasy with Sasuke right now could lead to more NS stuff well, its just plain character development at this point, Sakura getting some changed view around Sasuke and possibly moving to Naruto was never out of the realm of possibility after all the events they went through and ever since Minato came in, well that just made things more likely than ever. People have their own views and are entitled to them but just some like those make it too out of context at times.

Well, indeed she didn't say it's ok, however, my problem was with the fact that those ones, she ignored, yet, this one she gets all attack-mode on? Why couldn't she ignore this one as well like she did with the others without offending people's work and views?

And about the rest, she's one of those who, unfortunately for her, won't admit the development of Sakura and Naruto and put it all under the label of friendship and her only love is Sasuke.

 

Not to mention that the scenario drawn is highly possible from 2 cannonical situations point of view.

1 she parallels her master who was in the same situation with Orochimaru and decided to protect Naruto and two, well, we all know it's gonna be Kage Summit arc, 2.0

Edited by Chatte, 21 June 2013 - 12:49 PM.

[Inferno180]

Well, indeed she didn't say it's ok, however, my problem was with the fact that those ones, she ignored, yet, this one she gets all attack-mode on? Why couldn't she ignore this one as well like she did with the others without offending people's work and views?

And about the rest, she's one of those who, unfortunately for her, won't admit the development of Sakura and Naruto and put it all under the label of friendship and her only love is Sasuke.

 

Not to mention that the scenario drawn is highly possible from 2 cannonical situations point of view.

1 she parallels her master who was in the same situation with Orochimaru and decided to protect Naruto and two, well, we all know it's gonna be Kage Summit arc, 2.0

 

Guess this is something many don't understand in NaruSaku that we do, its not just the relationship and selflessness they give each other we like, its how they changed each other for the better. Naruto gave Sakura the inspiration to be much better, Sakura was what gave Naruto something worth protecting (kinda falling back to the time she was incapped by Gaara but after that the devotion of him to protect more then her arose too.)

[Awes9]

Ok, so I posted the comic...
And her first reaction was this
 

 
And then she posted this

I knew both of them were posted in my direction because she's kinda looking for a fight with me for a long time.
So then, I responded...
 

 
And her answer was this
 

 
And then I answered this
 

 
And her answer

I still didn't posted an answer cause I just saw this one.

As I said, this is just for debating purposes, not bashing or anything!

You know these kind of things never end, I think you just tell her you don't care about her opinion and that most likely the feeling is reprocical and if she is not happy about it then she should stop following you since you're not going to stop posting whatever pleases you just because of her opinion otherwise this might last a long time, as I always say no need to debate just let the manga speak for itself. Of course I can understand your frustration since she is attacking you directly.

[Inferno180]

All I know is, even if NS goes Canon soon or later on, people will still be debating it for years to come, I mean there have been Zukatra fans saying stuff like "Katara had a secret affair with Zuko because she truely loved him" even though the korra series removed all traces of this stuff.

 

If NS goes canon people will still make fanfics of stuff like Naruto feeling guilty of leaving Hinata behind, Sakura still loving Sasuke (even after we see everything happen even if its negative), or do some outrageous stuff like Sakura getting harmed, thats just ugh.

 

If NS goes canon, its simple Kishi wrote it that way for the story to allow it, kinda like how the story does right now. People will still disagree with it though and try to make something different out of it still.