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[Candleguy]

Bolded: Well, I'm a SS supporter and like NH, so I far from unbiased, but I think he has shown this. Especially with this very chapter. Hinata gave Naruto exactly what he needed in this chapter, inspiration and support. And she has never doubted his abilities. Naruto didn't really need to become a strong ninja or useful for the village for Hinata to see him a great guy. So if acknowledgement is what Naruto wants, Hinata has always given this to him. Though, at first, she was too shy to say so. Hinata is like a living example of how Naruto has changed people for the better.

> So if acknowledgement is what Naruto wants, Hinata has always given this to him.

> Though, at first, she was too shy to say so

These statement are not logically cohesive in any way. Plus This latest chapter is what the first chapter out of 615 in which Hinata has uplifted Naruto? And how is this anymore special then what Iruka, Sakura, or ever Gaara have done LONG before she managed to gather herself together to say something to Naruto.




> Bolded: Well, I'm a SS supporter and like NH, so I far from unbiased

> Hinata is like a living example of how Naruto has changed people for the better.

These two statements seem to be cohesive in contrast.

Edited by Candleguy, 06 January 2013 - 11:52 PM.

[Moon_Girl]

> So if acknowledgement is what Naruto wants, Hinata has always given this to him.

> Though, at first, she was too shy to say so

These statement are not logically cohesive in any way. Plus This latest chapter is what the first chapter out of 615 in which Hinata has uplifted Naruto? And how is this anymore special then what Iruka, Sakura, or ever Gaara have done LONG before she managed to gather herself together to say something to Naruto.




> Bolded: Well, I'm a SS supporter and like NH, so I far from unbiased

> Hinata is like a living example of how Naruto has changed people for the better.

These two statements seem to be cohesive in contrast.

@bolded

Second time. First time was before Naruto's fight with Neji in the chunnin exams.

[Candleguy]

@bolded

Second time. First time was before Naruto's fight with Neji in the chunnin exams.

I'll take your word for it.

I don't remember it though.

[Chatte]

Dunno, to me, yeah, Hinata has been supportive, you can't deny that. But not 100%.

[TouKen4Life3g]

She's been supportive, but only when he feels his nindo may be not working. I don't see her for Jiraiya's death, Sasuke, new jutsu, reunion, etc. If anything, she did it twice, one for each part. This feels like a rerun of part 1 development for all the rookies, but more of a grown-up level.

[Don-kun]

And here it start again NS fans vs NH/SS fan.
Biased opinion vs biased opinions.

All I can say keep it friendly guys.

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A boy can dream right?

[Candleguy]

My problem is not that Hinata has ever been supportive but that one statement that had bloated it beyond what we actually saw in the manga. Gaara, Iruka, Tsunade and all of Team 7 have all been supportive more in quantity and to a grater degree than Hinata.

[Chatte]

And here it start again NS fans vs NH/SS fan.
Biased opinion vs biased opinions.

All I can say keep it friendly guys.

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A boy can dream right?

Well, I think it's friendly enough.
I mean, I, for example, gave her the credits she, nevertheless, deserves. It's not being VS... I just express my beliefs regarding her actions.
I'd be indeed a totally biased NS fan if I wouldn't admit that she hasn't had her merits.

[Don-kun]

My problem is not that Hinata has ever been supportive but that one statement that had bloated it beyond what we actually saw in the manga. Gaara, Iruka, Tsunade and all of Team 7 have all been supportive more in quantity and to a grater degree than Hinata.

Hinata is popular. Joking
The thing what I notice among fans is that many of them seems to have memory loss when it come to sorting event that doesn't help their argument or their pairing when it come to debate.

[Nate River]

Attention, du...posters! The debate thread is ---> here. I wish the mods would move this off-topic crap.

Anyway in 616, will Kishimoto continue with the war from this chapter or will he shift to Sasuke and company? That would be hilarious if he did the latter.

And we wish you'd report things you wanted delt with rather than pulling crap like this. As far as I'm concerned you might as well have finished the insult. It makes little difference to me that such things are only half-finished or crossed out. either way it a problem because I know what you ment. . The obvious intent is the same.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Attention, du...posters! The debate thread is ---> here. I wish the mods would move this off-topic crap.

If the mods have a problem with it, I suggest we let them handle it and not act on their behalf.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 07 January 2013 - 12:47 AM.

[Don-kun]

Well, I think it's friendly enough.
I mean, I, for example, gave her the credits she, nevertheless, deserves. It's not being VS... I just express my beliefs regarding her actions.
I'd be indeed a totally biased NS fan if I wouldn't admit that she hasn't had her merits.

That's OK with me since I'm not interested in taking part in fandom exchange of opinions, I did this for almost a year and received many advice from other fellow NS fans asking me let it go and I could have a much better time on forums.
While I enjoy reading them, something they become very annoying when both sides start making up stuff, ignoring manga events and treat their own personal opinions and fan fabrications as fact.

Edited by Don-kun, 07 January 2013 - 01:07 AM.

[Chatte]

That's OK with me since I'm not interested in taking part in fandom exchange of opinions, I did this for almost a year and received many advice from other fellow NS fans asking me let it go and I could have a much better time on forums.
While I enjoy reading them, something they become very annoying when both sides start making up stuff, ignoring manga events and treat their own personal opinions and fan fabrications as fact.

Ok, I know how that is... I'm having a debate on that one. Someone calling a Sakura analysis I've made that it's not factual, bla bla. Though I clearly stated it's my opinion. And when I asked him/her, whatever it was, what makes other's opinion of her being useless as the ultimate truth and my statements based on manga facts a lie, of course, I didn't get any answer.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

Attention, du...posters! The debate thread is ---> here. I wish the mods would move this off-topic crap.

Anyway in 616, will Kishimoto continue with the war from this chapter or will he shift to Sasuke and company? That would be hilarious if he did the latter.

I agree with others. If you are going to be an a**hole, at least have the spine to be one openly. This passive-aggressive, "I'm so funny and clever" trick of yours is really tiring.

I wouldn't mind seeing Sasuke again. I am quite tired of the Obito fight, as it has been going on for some time now.

[Chucky-kun]

I wouldn't mind seeing Sasuke again. I am quite tired of the Obito fight, as it has been going on for some time now.

I feel like this is becoming my own catchphrase,

Who needs plot when you have fanservice?

[CloudMountainJuror]

I wouldn't mind seeing Sasuke again. I am quite tired of the Obito fight, as it has been going on for some time now.

If we go back to Sasuke, I wouldn't be excited to see Sasuke again. I'd be reading for Suigetsu and Juugo only.
I know I said I'm probably gonna stop reading, but I'm just saying.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 07 January 2013 - 03:12 AM.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

I feel like this is becoming my own catchphrase,

Who needs plot when you have fanservice?

Why are you so eager to dismiss everything that is not NS as fanservice? Maybe NS hints have been the fanservice, you know.

[CloudMountainJuror]

Why are you so eager to dismiss everything that is not NS as fanservice? Maybe NS hints have been the fanservice, you know.

That's a crapload of fanservice, then. And even worse writing on Kishi's part.
I see your point, and focus on Sasuke is not fanservice at all, but just saying.

Edited by zacrathedemon5, 07 January 2013 - 03:13 AM.

[Poison_In_Your_Coffee]

If we go back to Sasuke, I wouldn't be excited to see Sasuke again. I'd be reading for Suigetsu and Juugo only.
I know I said I'm probably gonna stop reading, but I'm just saying.

The two of them are funny enough, but don't really interest me with their characters. I mean that I'm not exactly dying to know Suigetsu's deep dark secrets or whether Juugo still cries during the night missing that friend of his. They can be fun as minor characters in the background.

[Chucky-kun]

Why are you so eager to dismiss everything that is not NS as fanservice? Maybe NS hints have been the fanservice, you know.

Just saying that the future of the world depends on this war, not Sasuke's quest for truth/redemption/peace/life/clan/village/revenge.