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#2861 Dalton.T.R

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 05:59 AM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Jul 28 2012, 12:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What if the movie turns out in their favor, and not ours? Hmmmmmmm
(Doubt it)

Very little chance of that happening. If the movie is supposed to be released this Saturday, they'd be making sure everything's all right with the movie and what not. It's already been said it's a PRO NARUSAKU MOVIE supported by Kishi. For me, that's evedence enough. The pairing wars may as well be over, but scertain fans are to stubborn to see it.

What I really love is how it's ok for Hinata to hit Naruto and slam him through walls all she wants. But Sakura so much as teases him...she's a b*tch. I don't get these Sakura bashers at all. They whine and complain about how she's so useless, and then when she actually does something, they say the enimie was weak, or was sick, or had lost his puppy and was depressed...there's no end to their hatred. Honestly, what's it gonna take for them to stop throwing their b*tch fits and accept sakura is a good character, admited she has her flaws, but that's what makes us who we are. We're all human beings and we all make mistakes. Who would be ablt to just kill an old friend or teammate or crush just like that? These Sakura bashers are just...stupid, idiotic, errogent, ignorant and what not. I know there would still be people out there who don't like her, you can't mke everyone like all your characters. But still. Some of these fans need to grow up and buy a brain. Sakura's useless...what's Hinata? EXCLUDING FILLER

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 06:21 AM

QUOTE (Dalton (I stink at names) @ Jul 27 2012, 10:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Very little chance of that happening. If the movie is supposed to be released this Saturday, they'd be making sure everything's all right with the movie and what not. It's already been said it's a PRO NARUSAKU MOVIE supported by Kishi. For me, that's evedence enough. The pairing wars may as well be over, but scertain fans are to stubborn to see it.

What I really love is how it's ok for Hinata to hit Naruto and slam him through walls all she wants. But Sakura so much as teases him...she's a b*tch. I don't get these Sakura bashers at all. They whine and complain about how she's so useless, and then when she actually does something, they say the enimie was weak, or was sick, or had lost his puppy and was depressed...there's no end to their hatred. Honestly, what's it gonna take for them to stop throwing their b*tch fits and accept sakura is a good character, admited she has her flaws, but that's what makes us who we are. We're all human beings and we all make mistakes. Who would be ablt to just kill an old friend or teammate or crush just like that? These Sakura bashers are just...stupid, idiotic, errogent, ignorant and what not. I know there would still be people out there who don't like her, you can't mke everyone like all your characters. But still. Some of these fans need to grow up and buy a brain. Sakura's useless...what's Hinata? EXCLUDING FILLER


Have you shown those people the PROOF that it is going to be a pro-Narusaku movie, because I wouldn't listen to you if you didn't provide me evidence to support your argument, even if I'm on your side. Not trying to mean, I'm just really asking.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 08:05 AM

QUOTE (Konoha'sCrimsonFox @ Jul 27 2012, 11:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not from the Onemanga Forum where I'm going to participate in the up coming pairing war. Apparently many NH and SS shippers are not following Kishi, but what they see drawn in the manga. They believe that Hinata's desire to hold Naruto's hand and and Sakura still has feelings for Sasuke makes NS dead. They are not discerning the manga at all. And the front cover for the Road to Naruto one-shot manga is their main believe that Kishi is supporting them. I'm just waiting for the full summary of the movie, so I can nuke that thread in the name of NS



Sounds fun. I want in on this. Are you KCF on there too? I wouldn't mind if we do a full-scale invasion.
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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:24 AM

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Sounds fun. I want in on this. Are you KCF on there too? I wouldn't mind if we do a full-scale invasion.


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Posted 28 July 2012 - 01:22 PM

QUOTE (kidNinja @ Jul 28 2012, 05:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Like I asked earlier. Why do you guys refer to NH and SS as other fandoms? I thought we were are part of the same fandom, just different factions...

We're all Naruto one big Naruto fandom, but pairing wise, we're different, doesn't mean we're enemies. How would you divide the pairing fandoms anyway, if you don't call them the other fandoms. Instead of saying NH/SS fans, you know. There are more pairing sides than that, and if you just reply to a certain other pairing fandom, it will be dumb.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 02:03 PM

QUOTE (Transformers03 @ Jul 28 2012, 01:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have you shown those people the PROOF that it is going to be a pro-Narusaku movie, because I wouldn't listen to you if you didn't provide me evidence to support your argument, even if I'm on your side. Not trying to mean, I'm just really asking.

No, I haven't tried showing any proof because there wouldn't be a point in doing so.We all know they'll just brush it all off and continue on with their..."arguments"...than pay attention to the truth. But as far as proof goes, watch HalfStar's spoilers video, and the leaked scenes all over Youtube.

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 11:30 PM

To be honest one of the main reason why I want to see Sakura in the manga is because I want to understand her, I want to see her thinking about her family her friends about her new perspective of Sasuke (have a flash back on her behavior in part one, to think about Naruto words when he told Sasuke the moment they fight they will both die, her last statement when Naruto said that he was willing to die with Sasuke if that was the last alternative she said that she can finally hope on the day Team 7 will smile again.

You see Naruto and Sakura interacting is something I want to see, but not more than seeing Sakura having some inner thought about her relationship with team 7 and a little view of her parents to make them canon in the Manga.

I know Ciarthat will tell me about her confession but you know what I believe in her confession, but I want Sakura to think about her actions by herself, no pressure or guilt involved.


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Posted 29 July 2012 - 12:22 AM

So, something that's not related to RTN. What is our strongest cannon manga arguments for NaruSaku?
I still think it's the similarity between Kushina and Sakura. After all I think Kushina is just about the only person in the series besides Sai who had mentioned Naruto's love life.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 12:45 AM

QUOTE (Branden @ Jul 29 2012, 01:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So, something that's not related to RTN. What is our strongest cannon manga arguments for NaruSaku?
I still think it's the similarity between Kushina and Sakura. After all I think Kushina is just about the only person in the series besides Sai who had mentioned Naruto's love life.

Sai asking naruto why he didnt told her about his feelings it's proven that even after hinata's confession naruto still in love for Sakura and he will not give up on this no matter what happens.
Sakura's confession, naruto thought it was for real until she mentioned sasuke if she did not metioned sasuke we would have a kiss scene.
Naruto saves her in the same way Minato saves Kushina, naruto save sakura's life.
Sakura knows that naruto loves her, but didnt have time to talk about it because naruto was off at that island and did not have a contact with sakura.

Naruto changed Sakura he's determination made her into the woman she's now, in part 1 naruto was the one who give her strenght and was always by her side,, in part 2 sakura is one of naruto's supportes and she will always at his side.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 01:08 AM

I found this review of chapter 573 (the one with Hinata's speech of holding hands). It's done by TheTokyoKit (gave us the Road to Ninja review today)



I guess he made it to point out how much Hinata stood out in the chapter and to let NH fans that watch his videos know about the impact it left. From his perspective it is a romantic gesture from Hinata's part. It also seems he isn't that much of a Hinata fan even though he likes her and just says that he appreciates her saying that since it genuinely came from her heart.

With that being said, even if her speech is meant to be romantic by japanese standards I still consider it all to be one big red herring from Kishimoto. I think he might want us to believe that maybe Naruto could change his feelings toward Hinata (because of what she said there) only to once again reaffirm us that the only one Naruto truly loves is Sakura. So maybe what Hinata said was purposely done to mislead us.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 01:28 AM

I thought Hinata was gonna stop chasing after Naruto after her confession, like she stated. mellow.gif

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 01:42 AM

QUOTE (sushi. @ Jul 28 2012, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought Hinata was gonna stop chasing after Naruto after her confession, like she stated. mellow.gif


Which was followed soon after with "I'll hold your hand and walk with you" romantic gesture. down.gif

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 01:52 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jul 28 2012, 09:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I found this review of chapter 573 (the one with Hinata's speech of holding hands). It's done by TheTokyoKit (gave us the Road to Ninja review today)



I guess he made it to point out how much Hinata stood out in the chapter and to let NH fans that watch his videos know about the impact it left. From his perspective it is a romantic gesture from Hinata's part. It also seems he isn't that much of a Hinata fan even though he likes her and just says that he appreciates her saying that since it genuinely came from her heart.

With that being said, even if her speech is meant to be romantic by japanese standards I still consider it all to be one big red herring from Kishimoto. I think he might want us to believe that maybe Naruto could change his feelings toward Hinata (because of what she said there) only to once again reaffirm us that the only one Naruto truly loves is Sakura. So maybe what Hinata said was purposely done to mislead us.


I don't agree the chapter was ment to be romantic not a red herring, the problem with Hinatas character, is that her feelings for Naruto has not being develop, even if it comes from her heart she still being selfish, for not thinking about Naruto or Naruto's feelings only what she desire.
Hinata as never said this or something close, Naruto I know you love Sakura but I will try my best to win your heart.
Naruto stated that one day maybe Sakura will come to like him, Hinata didn't she say that sher will wall next to him, but what happens is Naruto still loves Sakura with all his heart.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 02:09 AM

QUOTE (NS means logic @ Jul 28 2012, 09:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't agree the chapter was ment to be romantic not a red herring, the problem with Hinatas character, is that her feelings for Naruto has not being develop, even if it comes from her heart she still being selfish, for not thinking about Naruto or Naruto's feelings only what she desire.
Hinata as never said this or something close, Naruto I know you love Sakura but I will try my best to win your heart.
Naruto stated that one day maybe Sakura will come to like him, Hinata didn't she say that sher will wall next to him, but what happens is Naruto still loves Sakura with all his heart.

Isn't that reason enough to view Hinata's statement as a red herring from Kishi?

He's misleading people into believing that Hinata's powerful words mean that she'll get Naruto, but then the plot twist about that would be that Naruto will only ever love Sakura.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 02:24 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jul 28 2012, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't that reason enough to view Hinata's statement as a red herring from Kishi?

He's misleading people into believing that Hinata's powerful words mean that she'll get Naruto, but then the plot twist about that would be that Naruto will only ever love Sakura.

Naruto has the mind of a person will wait until the end of time that Sakura will love him back. Granted, he wants her to be happy and smile, so he can be happy; however, I do think he is a guy that will not drop his feeling for anyone at all. Yes, he's not a quitter, but I do think his mind is permanent when it comes to setting his eyes on. I remember there was an anime that one guy who has a love interest and one person don't think they can be a couple because of the girl's doubts. The guy told that person that if she wants to marry me, I'm always ready. She can decide in 10, 20, 50 years, I'll still be waiting. For some reason, I can't help but think that this pairing will get a FMA ending. Not exact, but the setup to it. Like Naruto finally completes everything, so now, he has to confess; however, he's a little nervous to hear her response. Then he overcomes it and tells her. I can see it happening.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 02:47 AM

QUOTE (redragon88 @ Jul 28 2012, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Naruto will only ever love Sakura.


You know what that sounds like? brb, im going to go to a random nh video on youtube.

Ah yes, took me about 3 minutes.
"Yes it's developed not instant. Sakura loves Sasuke no one else. It won't happen with naruto no matter what! She loves Sasuke only. It proves it multiple times in the show and manga. Also some stuff happens in the manga that kinda suggests Naruto might like Hinata so muahahahahahaaaaa! If he ends up with anyone it has to be her I think. Sakura won't stop loving Sasuke."

I'd say this is a rare occasion but I see comments like this spammed everywhere on almost all pairing videos on youtube. One of the many reasons why I decided to relocate to this website.


EDIT:
"some stuff happens in the manga that kinda suggests that Naruto might like Hinata"
I think that's one of the most unsure statements I've ever herd.

Edited by Branden, 29 July 2012 - 02:50 AM.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:01 AM

Not trying to play devils advocate here, but are we honestly sure Naruto will always love Sakura? It's still possible his feelings may change. Granted not very likely and I heavily doubt that would happen but we have to consider it a possibilty. Otherwise it makes us no different from "Sakura will always love Sasuke" fans.

Of course we do have solid theories to support it. Like surpassing the previous, JiraTsu parallel, and just Naruto's personality in general. But let's not be too close-minded here smile.gif. Personally, I don't think Naruto's feelings for Sakura will change either. But it's not impossible.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:05 AM

i also believe naruto will only love sakura :3

1) he never showed romantic interest in any other girl

2) he keeps asking her on dates....even when we think hes gonna stop XD he doesn't! even when he might be angry at sakura he doesnt stop X3

3) he has always like her, since chapter 3 (sure so has hinata....actually she wasnt shown till chapter.......idk when she shows up in the manga!!)

4) hes always trying to make her happy :3

5) and he never gives up (that filler 235 shows this...i know its filler) cheesy yes :3

i could say sakura will always love sasuke but

she has not reason too.....

1) he tried to kill her twice

2) he just doesnt like her


at least with naruto....sakura cares about him and tried to support him...(which makes him love sakura more)

but sakura only becomes depressed with sasuke....cause she knows he doesnt like her, or want anything to do with her.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:09 AM

QUOTE (xxRomanceGirlxx @ Jul 28 2012, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not trying to play devils advocate here, but are we honestly sure Naruto will always love Sakura? It's still possible his feelings may change. Granted not very likely and I heavily doubt that would happen but we have to consider it a possibilty. Otherwise it makes us no different from "Sakura will always love Sasuke" fans.

Of course we do have solid theories to support it. Like surpassing the previous, JiraTsu parallel, and just Naruto's personality in general. But let's not be too close-minded here smile.gif. Personally, I don't think Naruto's feelings for Sakura will change either. But it's not impossible.

It's not impossible, BUT, Kishi is making it impossible. Much like trying to bring back Sasuke, a lot of people would give up. Naruto is all about not giving up. Rewards always come when you continue to fight on. It's only game over when you stop. Naruto is somebody that Kishi wants people to understand that everyone can achieve anything if you just keep on fighting. Trust me when I say this, if Naruto falls in love with Hinata, then a lot of previous developments will go to waste. The payoff will be weak and not inspiring at all. Naruto going with Sakura has a huge payoff for readers than quick hook-up with Hinata and Sasuke returning with no developments with Sakura, let alone that their relationship is really stale and boring that not even in the same standard as shounen couple.

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Posted 29 July 2012 - 03:18 AM

The most idiotic response I ever get when I tell a NH/SS fan that Naruto's feelings don't change is that Sakura's won't change either...how exactly does that help their cause anyway? If Sakura's feelings don't change, then there will not be a couple that becomes canon, because Sasuke obviously would profess his "hidden" love for her tongue.gif

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