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[Don-kun]

I been going over the Manga and non of these new info makes any sense, let wait 10 more days we will know by then.

[Chew]

I think the person who put the synopsis in the portuguese wiki just assumed that by the title of the episode "Road to Sakura" it would logically be about the chapters that involve Sakura the most in the war, which are the attacks on the medic tents. The person who wrote that in the wiki is just speculating in my opinion.

Any how, this happened:





I wonder what it will show. Will it be just the voice actors talking about Road to Ninja or will it be some report that tells us information about the movie.

LOL for a second I was like "WHAT, WHY WOULD THEY BROADCAST THE MOVIE ON TELEVISION" and then I realized they said the "COMPLETE GUIDE TO ROAD TO NINJA"...derp.

HNGNGNGGGGG cannot wait an entire year, Y U DO DIS

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Hello friend, I realized exactly like what you meant, so I will send you a print of the Wikipedia page with the blurb highlighted (is in Portuguese):

http://img194.images...oadtosakura.png

Rapaz, a sua fonte está em inglês mas o problema é que nessa fonte não há sinopse do road to sakura portanto se alguem pôs essa sinopse se enganou ou não dever saber que é filler e fez dedução.

[Carlos]

Rapaz, a sua fonte está em inglês mas o problema é que nessa fonte não há sinopse do road to sakura portanto se alguem pôs essa sinopse se enganou ou não dever saber que é filler e fez dedução.

Hello friend, I am using the Wikipedia synopsis of Portuguese, English and Italian as has no synopsis.
But I hope she is wrong because I expect to see a NaruSaku moments in it.

[sushi.]

Hello friend, I am using the Wikipedia synopsis of Portuguese, English and Italian as has no synopsis.
But I hope she is wrong because I expect to see a NaruSaku moments in it.

Me too, but my highest hopes for it is a character development. And maybe something about her confused feelings(confession), so all the haters that cliams she's a liar can STFU

[Gravenimage]

Me too, but my highest hopes for it is a character development. And maybe something about her confused feelings(confession), so all the haters that cliams she's a liar can STFU

Kishimoto stated himself that Sakura was telling the truth in her confession and they still think she was lying, even if it's shown that she was being honest in the movie they will still think she's lying.

Edited by Gravenimage, 09 July 2012 - 11:24 PM.

[Sakamaki Izayoi]

Kishimoto stated himself that Sakura was telling the truth in her confession and they still think she was lying, even if it's shown that she was being honest in the movie they will still think she's lying.

Haters gonna Hate.

[sushi.]

Kishimoto stated himself that Sakura was telling the truth in her confession and they still think she was lying, even if it's shown that she was being honest in the movie they will still think she's lying.

People have yet to believe it, not everyone reads interviews. And if it's shown directly that she was telling the truth, they'll say "it's not canon". If it's shown in the manga, they got a big slap in their face and really have nothing to say anymore.

But I'm expecting her feelings from her POV. Her teammates have already commented on them(Yamato, Sai lol), but I want to see something from her eyes.

Edited by sushi., 09 July 2012 - 11:32 PM.

[Transformers03]

People have yet to believe it, not everyone reads interviews. And if it's shown directly that she was telling the truth, they'll say "it's not canon". If it's shown in the manga, they got a big slap in their face and really have nothing to say anymore.

But I'm expecting her feelings from her POV. Her teammates have already commented on them(Yamato, Sai lol), but I want to see something from her eyes.

In that same interview he also confirmed that Sakura does love Sasuke. It's possible that many fans would just focus on that, and ignore the other things he said.

[Paptala]

^ Exactly. People hone in on what proves their theory and either ignore or rationalize away the things that contradict or disprove their theory.

Kishimoto said "Naruto is close, but as expected, it looks like Sakura still loves Sasuke." (and yes, I looked at the original Japanese version, which used the word 'mitai', which means some variation of 'to look').

1. Naruto is close to what? NH/SS fans tend to interpret this as "Naruto and Sakura are close friends" or "share a close platonic bond", but it could just as easily (perhaps even more easily given the context) be interpreted to mean that Naruto is close to winning Sakura's heart, or that Sakura is close to falling in love completely with Naruto.
2. Maybe I'm being nitpicky, but seriously, it looks like Sakura is still in love with Sasuke? That just screams red herring to me - almost as if Kishi is saying "this is what I might be giving the appearance of on the surface, but I'm really just trying to distract you from the fact that I haven't clearly had Sakura answer or think about how she truly feels about Naruto"

Anti-fans are flat out convinced Sakura confirmed beyond a doubt at the summit and in 540 that she holds no romantic feelings for Naruto simply because her feelings for Sasuke are being brought up - but they fails to notice that a) Sakura's romantic feelings for Sasuke have been depicted in an increasingly negative light since at least chapter 451, and b) there isn't a single panel of Sakura thinking, saying, or implying "I've actually given thought to how I feel about Naruto (as opposed to thinking about how Naruto feels, how the rookies feel, or how she feels about Sasuke), and I know for sure now that I only like him as my bestest most platonic of friends ever!"

In all seriousness, there hasn't been a single panel of Sakura just thinking about how she feels about Naruto - she was focused on how Naruto felt mainly during the whole summit fiasco ("she was only thinking of your feelings") and then of her feelings for Sasuke (or rather who he used to be) - but never how she feels about Naruto. Try and find one panel that shows definitively that Sakura only thinks of Naruto in a platonic manner - you won't find one, because it doesn't exist.

She never confirms that. Ever.

Edited by Paptala, 10 July 2012 - 12:50 AM.

[K9ofChaos]

^ Exactly. People hone in on what proves their theory and either ignore or rationalize away the things that contradict or disprove their theory.

Kishimoto said "Naruto is close, but as expected, it looks like Sakura still loves Sasuke." (and yes, I looked at the original Japanese version, which used the word 'mitai', which means some variation of 'to look').

1. Naruto is close to what? NH/SS fans tend to interpret this as "Naruto and Sakura are close friends" or "share a close platonic bond", but it could just as easily (perhaps even more easily given the context) be interpreted to mean that Naruto is close to winning Sakura's heart, or that Sakura is close to falling in love completely with Naruto.
2. Maybe I'm being nitpicky, but seriously, it looks like Sakura is still in love with Sasuke? That just screams red herring to me - almost as if Kishi is saying "this is what I might be giving the appearance of on the surface, but I'm really just trying to distract you from the fact that I haven't clearly had Sakura answer or think about how she truly feels about Naruto"

Anti-fans are flat out convinced Sakura confirmed beyond a doubt at the summit and in 540 that she holds no romantic feelings for Naruto simply because her feelings for Sasuke are being brought up - but they fails to notice that a) Sakura's romantic feelings for Sasuke have been depicted in an increasingly negative light since at least chapter 451, and b) there isn't a single panel of Sakura thinking, saying, or implying "I've actually given thought to how I feel about Naruto (as opposed to thinking about how Naruto feels, how the rookies feel, or how she feels about Sasuke), and I know for sure now that I only like him as my bestest most platonic of friends ever!"

In all seriousness, there hasn't been a single panel of Sakura just thinking about how she feels about Naruto - she was focused on how Naruto felt mainly during the whole summit fiasco ("she was only thinking of your feelings") and then of her feelings for Sasuke (or rather who he used to be) - but never how she feels about Naruto. Try and find one panel that shows definitively that Sakura only thinks of Naruto in a platonic manner - you won't find one, because it doesn't exist.

She never confirms that. Ever.

I agree with your #2 Hypothesis, Paptala. Though I'm leaning more towards Kishi not giving Sakura the proper chance to explain her feelings about Naruto rather then not giving her the chance to properly think about her feelings for Naruto. My reason being that I believe she already moved on from her crush she had on Sasuke as a 12 year old girl and has completely fallen in love with Naruto.


I hope to see more magazine pics revealing more info about this movie.

[Don-kun]

^ Exactly. People hone in on what proves their theory and either ignore or rationalize away the things that contradict or disprove their theory.

Kishimoto said "Naruto is close, but as expected, it looks like Sakura still loves Sasuke." (and yes, I looked at the original Japanese version, which used the word 'mitai', which means some variation of 'to look').

1. Naruto is close to what? NH/SS fans tend to interpret this as "Naruto and Sakura are close friends" or "share a close platonic bond", but it could just as easily (perhaps even more easily given the context) be interpreted to mean that Naruto is close to winning Sakura's heart, or that Sakura is close to falling in love completely with Naruto.
2. Maybe I'm being nitpicky, but seriously, it looks like Sakura is still in love with Sasuke? That just screams red herring to me - almost as if Kishi is saying "this is what I might be giving the appearance of on the surface, but I'm really just trying to distract you from the fact that I haven't clearly had Sakura answer or think about how she truly feels about Naruto"

Anti-fans are flat out convinced Sakura confirmed beyond a doubt at the summit and in 540 that she holds no romantic feelings for Naruto simply because her feelings for Sasuke are being brought up - but they fails to notice that a) Sakura's romantic feelings for Sasuke have been depicted in an increasingly negative light since at least chapter 451, and b) there isn't a single panel of Sakura thinking, saying, or implying "I've actually given thought to how I feel about Naruto (as opposed to thinking about how Naruto feels, how the rookies feel, or how she feels about Sasuke), and I know for sure now that I only like him as my bestest most platonic of friends ever!"

In all seriousness, there hasn't been a single panel of Sakura just thinking about how she feels about Naruto - she was focused on how Naruto felt mainly during the whole summit fiasco ("she was only thinking of your feelings") and then of her feelings for Sasuke (or rather who he used to be) - but never how she feels about Naruto. Try and find one panel that shows definitively that Sakura only thinks of Naruto in a platonic manner - you won't find one, because it doesn't exist.

She never confirms that. Ever.

Fantastic I will never stop saying that after your amazing posts, they always express how I feel about the pairing and I believe you on the part where Sakura hasn't answered how she feels about Naruto and the only chance she was given she stated that she loves him, people love to use that statement that she will never stop loving Sasuke but if that's the case why Kishi haven't made a single panel of her thinking that she doesn't see that way. The only character Kishi has given that thought is Hinata and that's only because her character is focus 100% on Naruto something that I don't find healthy at all.

[ciardha]

I agree with your #2 Hypothesis, Paptala. Though I'm leaning more towards Kishi not giving Sakura the proper chance to explain her feelings about Naruto rather then not giving her the chance to properly think about her feelings for Naruto. My reason being that I believe she already moved on from her crush she had on Sasuke as a 12 year old girl and has completely fallen in love with Naruto.

Exactly. Not only do you see this in the manga but what the antins people leave out is what Kishimoto said before- that Sakura was being completely honest about what she believed about her feelings vis-a-vie Naruto and Sasuke. And another point to support your "red herring" theory Paptala about the whole Sasuke thing- Kishimoto carefully does not ever say what feelings Sakura feels about Sasuke, he says it "appears that she still.... Sasuke".

And the word used for close when he's talking about her feelings for Naruto just reinforces what he already said- she believes with all her being that she was being absolutely truthful about her feelings- and look how she absolutely stands her ground about being in love with Naruto in 470.

Naruto's reaction certainly comes across as if he's accepted the truth of her love for him, he's just really annoyed at her deluding herself about having absolutely no emotional bond to Sasuke at all anymore. (but as we see in 474, his irritation also comes from his own delusion that he was still mentally picturing Sakura as the unattainable 12 year old Sasuke fangirl in his mind, he didn't want to give up that illusion because it would mean facing the truth about what Sasuke has become. (Naruto was, if anything, lying to himself even more than Sakura was. Sakura's was at least based in facing reality- she just didn't realize that one can't just tell yourself to let go of an emotional bond and it's instantly gone. One only has to look at the Sanin and see how there were still some fragments of bonds even between Orochimaru and Tsunade, and think of how many years Tsunade had to cut off that bond and how much less emotional involvement there was to start with....) We can only conclude from Naruto's reactions and words in 470 and especially in 474, he decided that Sakura was in love with both himself and Sasuke.

There really should be no doubt amongst readers that Sakura is romantically in love with Naruto, it's absolutely clear she is. You can debate what her level feelings for remain for Sasuke are- I don't think Sakura is certain as a result of the debacle of her attempt to save Naruto by killing Sasuke. But what she knows is it makes her feel ashamed and depressed about herself- that she could retain any emotional bonds whatsoever for someone as monstrous as she's seen the real Sasuke willingly and eagerly has become.

Maybe the Sakura in "Road to Ninja" will have a lessening her sense of shame about herself now- while it makes her wince about the silly, naive girl she was- when she is stalked by a false Sasuke acting something like her 12 year self fantasied about, but now just freaks her out. What Tobi Madara will not understand is this will likely get her to start to see she doesn't need to beat herself up inside about still carrying the memories of her feelings. Similar to how Tobi Madara will misunderstand that having and losing his parents will not weaken Naruto but strengthen him. It will have the opposite effect of what he is wanting, plus I'm certain this will also have the opposite effect to what Tobi Madara wanted and will draw Naruto and Sakura even closer to each other.

[Codus N]

From NF:

https://twitter.com/...625979422617600

There will be movie related chapter of 33 pages in next issue (#34) of WSJ along with normal chapter.

YES!!! YES!! YEEEEESSSS!!!!!! Wooo-hooo!!!!! thankyouthankyouthankyou Kishi!!! oh yes!!! oh god!!! if someone doesn't scanlate that chapter next week, I. WILL. BE. PISSED.

Edited by Codus N, 10 July 2012 - 10:04 AM.

[pharix]

why wouldn't they? o.O

[Codus N]

why wouldn't they? o.O

Maybe it's just me, but I fear that if the scanlation teams out there are all NH fans and the special chapter is full of Pro-NS, they wouldn't pick it up.

[redragon88]

I'm seeing some panels with Naruto which include one of him thinking of Sasuke, one with Tobi, another with Lee and finally one with Hinata.

I wonder what it will be about and how Hinata and Lee fit in there.

Maybe it's just me, but I fear that if the scanlation teams out there are all NH fans and the special chapter is full of Pro-NS, they wouldn't pick it up.

Considering that it is clear Hinata will appear in the special chapter I don't think that will be the case.

Edited by redragon88, 10 July 2012 - 10:26 AM.

[Codus N]

Not sure, to be honest. And even then, the text is sketchy at best, so I don't think those even have to do with the movie.

EDIT:

@red: We'll just see, shall we??

Oh, BTW, the official site was updated with a little Q & A session with Kishi. Here's the translation:

A rough translation of Kishi's little question and answer session:


ストーリー構成で漫画と違う所は？

普段の連載はページ数を計算してストーリーを作っていきますが、映画では、"三幕構成"という３つの形に分 けて構成するやり方で考えました。今回の「キャラクターの性格が逆転する」というアイディアは、映画の尺な らではのアイディアでした。

"Compared to the manga, what differences did you find in the composition of the story?"

"In the serialized story, I normally calculate the number of pages at my disposal and then proceed to build the story... but in the movie, I had to use another method of organization that divides everything into three parts. It's called the 'three act structure'. The idea I came up with this time, "the reversal of the characters' personalities", was an idea that applied uniquely to the length of the movie."

映画だからあえて狙った構成は？

すでに原作ではいない両親を登場させる事で、マンガでは描けない主人公ナルトの新たな「成長」を、表現しま した。

"This being a movie, what kind of composition were you aiming for?"

"With the appearance of his two parents - who are already dead in the original story - I was able to present a new 'growth' for the main character, Naruto... something that in the manga I wouldn't have been able to write."

映画と漫画でキャラクターデザインの違いは？

映画などのアニメーションではまず「動かしやすさ」を考えてデザインするのですが、今回は漫画と同じように 、自分の好きなようにデザインさせてもらいました。

"What differences did you find in the character designs for the manga and for the movie?"

"With animated movies and things like that, the character designs are usually drawn by thinking first of all about whether they'll be 'easy to move'... but this time, I had them prepare the designs according to my liking, and in a way similar to the manga."

映画のキャラクターデザインのこだわりは？

今回は「幻術の世界でキャラクターの性格を正反対にする」というコンセプトありきでした。原作では引っ込み 思案で露出も少ないキャラを、逆に露出を増やしていく、というような感じでデザインしました。

"Did you fixate on anything in particular, when you designed the characters for the movie?"

"This time I was working with the concept of 'lets' reverse the characters' personalities in the genjutsu world'. So I created the designs with the idea of making them opposite, and increasing the exposure of characters who in the original work are reserved and don't expose themselves."

Edited by Codus N, 10 July 2012 - 10:30 AM.

[redragon88]

"Did you fixate on anything in particular, when you designed the characters for the movie?"

"This time I was working with the concept of 'lets' reverse the characters' personalities in the genjutsu world'. So I created the designs with the idea of making them opposite, and increasing the exposure of characters who in the original work are reserved and don't expose themselves."

I bet that last bit was a subtle reference to how crazily aggressive AU Hinata is.

[Paptala]

Fantastic I will never stop saying that after your amazing posts, they always express how I feel about the pairing and I believe you on the part where Sakura hasn't answered how she feels about Naruto and the only chance she was given she stated that she loves him, people love to use that statement that she will never stop loving Sasuke but if that's the case why Kishi haven't made a single panel of her thinking that she doesn't see that way. The only character Kishi has given that thought is Hinata and that's only because her character is focus 100% on Naruto something that I don't find healthy at all.

Aw thanks! But yes, pretty much exactly my point!

I agree with your #2 Hypothesis, Paptala. Though I'm leaning more towards Kishi not giving Sakura the proper chance to explain her feelings about Naruto rather then not giving her the chance to properly think about her feelings for Naruto. My reason being that I believe she already moved on from her crush she had on Sasuke as a 12 year old girl and has completely fallen in love with Naruto.

Yes, that could very well be it as well.

Exactly. Not only do you see this in the manga but what the antins people leave out is what Kishimoto said before- that Sakura was being completely honest about what she believed about her feelings vis-a-vie Naruto and Sasuke. And another point to support your "red herring" theory Paptala about the whole Sasuke thing- Kishimoto carefully does not ever say what feelings Sakura feels about Sasuke, he says it "appears that she still.... Sasuke".

That's right, I had forgotten about that detail! Thanks for reminding me! I guess the fan translators just added that in there. It kind of sucks when you have to second guess so many of the translations (there was especially poor initial translating of the comment with Hinata and Sakura - it was first translated as Kishi somehow thinking Hinata would make a better heroine that Sakura, when in fact Kishi was saying the complete opposite )

And the word used for close when he's talking about her feelings for Naruto just reinforces what he already said- she believes with all her being that she was being absolutely truthful about her feelings- and look how she absolutely stands her ground about being in love with Naruto in 470.

That's very interesting - would you mind telling me the word he used? It would be great to have that information if I ever was chatting with another fandom about it.

Sakura's was at least based in facing reality- she just didn't realize that one can't just tell yourself to let go of an emotional bond and it's instantly gone. One only has to look at the Sanin and see how there were still some fragments of bonds even between Orochimaru and Tsunade, and think of how many years Tsunade had to cut off that bond and how much less emotional involvement there was to start with....)

Exactly - this is why people shouldn't be so critical of her for having whatever feelings she still has for Sasuke; its not easy to get rid of them, and Kishi knows Sakura's done just about everything she can to try and lose them.

Maybe the Sakura in "Road to Ninja" will have a lessening her sense of shame about herself now- while it makes her wince about the silly, naive girl she was- when she is stalked by a false Sasuke acting something like her 12 year self fantasied about, but now just freaks her out. What Tobi Madara will not understand is this will likely get her to start to see she doesn't need to beat herself up inside about still carrying the memories of her feelings. Similar to how Tobi Madara will misunderstand that having and losing his parents will not weaken Naruto but strengthen him. It will have the opposite effect of what he is wanting, plus I'm certain this will also have the opposite effect to what Tobi Madara wanted and will draw Naruto and Sakura even closer to each other.

Sounds about right to me

From NF:

https://twitter.com/...625979422617600



YES!!! YES!! YEEEEESSSS!!!!!! Wooo-hooo!!!!! thankyouthankyouthankyou Kishi!!! oh yes!!! oh god!!! if someone doesn't scanlate that chapter next week, I. WILL. BE. PISSED.

Ho shi- really? This movie really is a lot different than the others - does this mean that Kishi wants to tie it into canon somehow by making a manga chapter of it, or what? Is it just some random chapter? *is a bit confused*

That being said, we get essentially two chapters next week, so that'll be nice. I'm sure it definitely will get translated, I wouldn't worry about that given the hype over this movie. But I'm kind of annoyed that there's no Sakura on that cover - how the heck is it that Hinata and Lee are there, but not Sakura?

Edited by Paptala, 10 July 2012 - 11:09 AM.