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Posted 23 August 2014 - 01:54 PM

He isn't really a developed character. His actions don't make sense most of the times and his goals change from left to right.

As for people hating him, I blame Kishi. If he didn't force this vomit inducing bromance the hate would've been less intense. But no, you have Sasuke do kitten here and there, and Naruto is waiting and ready to forgive him with open arms like the love sick puppy he is. People would rather wish Sasuke to die in comparison than having this whole manga centered around him, an unattractive guy the reader can't sympathize with.

Yes The Bromance is utter kitten in here its unbearable to see it being shoved right in your face constantly and its what makes this manga not be one of the best everyone are tired from it bc it makes no sense by the way its written  Naruto would have been so much better as a story if we didn't have this so much sign .

 

I still love the story and want to see how all of this resolved  but it isn't what it used to be , oh well nothing we can do about it .


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 01:59 PM

1.)The grown ups knew, and they passed down their tendency to ostracize him to their children, without actually telling them the reason. They treated Naruto like dirt because their parents did.

2.)Naruto didn't just change their minds of him, he changed peoples minds of something that had nothing to do with him. Look at Zabuza, Gaara, Jiraiya (regarding Sasuke), Tsunade (regarding the leaf), Nagato, Obito, Ay, Ohnoki etc. He changed their minds on topics that had nothing to do with him, their opinions of him changed because of the initial change. Their opinion was secondary. Hiruzen cold have done the same thing, but did nothing.

My opinion is that you are illogically hating on one of the most important people in Naruto's life. I have provided you the episode where its all explained. I am not gonna say anything else. One shouldn't keep countering everything just for the sake of arguing. Even after watching that episode if you still feel justified to show displeasure with Hiruzen's actions, you are free to do so. Everyone is entitled to have their own opinions.


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 02:49 PM

  
If the village didn't know about the jinchuriki deal, then they wouldn't have treated Naruto like kitten. They knew and understood. And yes, I think that he did not make any kind of speech about it, especially as it pertains to Minato and Kushina for two reasons:

1.) if his heritage became public knowledge, he would have had many more enemies because of Minato
2.) had the village known about his heritage, and Minato, they would not have dared to treat him like garbage.

Ok, not his heritage. I see it, i agree. But Gaara was Kazekage's son and maybe they didn't were "bad" to him, but viewed him with the same eyes. It doesn't matter what you do, Jinchirukis are viewed the same everywhere. They pretty much understand what Jinchiruuki means. Mito and Kushina were Jinchirukis. Kushina was Minato's wife.Mito was Hashirama's wife. Hokage's wife. (omggg, those Hokages with their Jinchirukis, NS IS CANON!!! haha, ok no, i'm joking)

I readed all you said to the other person and i have to say the same. I won't keep answering for the same reasons. All i have to say is that Hiruzen did everything he could with his restrictions (Minato, Itachi, Counselours, his duty how Hokage, the village itself). Of course, he was too soft. Because, just how i told you, that kind of system doesn't work. He was trying to protect his promises, their wishes, their memory, the village, but you can't do your work of chief without being a little spiful, distrustful and cautious...


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 03:21 PM

What if Game:

If Naruto confirms late in the series that he only went for Sakura's looks, how would you feel in a whole?

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 03:38 PM

What if Game:

If Naruto confirms late in the series that he only went for Sakura's looks, how would you feel in a whole?

Well, physical attraction is important too. It doesn't matter if this is the reason Naruto gives at the time of confessing because its obvious to everyone that there is something much MUCH greater than just physical attraction between these two. They have looked after each other, cared about the others feelings and supported each other through dark times as well as happy times. All of this won't just fade away from our minds after hearing Naruto say he is physically attracted to Sakura. This would still comfortably beat ANYTHING that has to happen to make NH/SS canon.


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 03:51 PM

What if Game:

If Naruto confirms late in the series that he only went for Sakura's looks, how would you feel in a whole?

Let's see I understood you, ok so the forehead scene was meanless.


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 03:52 PM

(don't know if this has been said yet but)
 
Okay! guys! You know how Kishi has been drawing Sakura's hair in her face lately!?
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what  if he's doing this so Naruto can push her hair to the side! *_* and make it like the older version of herself!
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Dude, her hair is just messy. Like they are in the middle of a war you know lol
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Posted 23 August 2014 - 04:02 PM

Dude, her hair is just messy. Like they are in the middle of a war you know lol

exactly, lmao


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 04:25 PM

Dude, her hair is just messy. Like they are in the middle of a war you know lol

She still sexy even with messy hair xD.


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 04:31 PM

Well, physical attraction is important too. It doesn't matter if this is the reason Naruto gives at the time of confessing because its obvious to everyone that there is something much MUCH greater than just physical attraction between these two. They have looked after each other, cared about the others feelings and supported each other through dark times as well as happy times. All of this won't just fade away from our minds after hearing Naruto say he is physically attracted to Sakura. This would still comfortably beat ANYTHING that has to happen to make NH/SS canon.

Good answer.

Let's see I understood you, ok so the forehead scene was meanless.

Well, I only said only. If I were to say if he did go for her looks, then this answer is good. However, I said only, that doesn't sound good. In fact, that's bad. Lol. I'm against this:

Sakura: Why you like me?
Naruto: You're beautiful!
Sakura: What else?
Naruto: What else?! What else...is there?
Sai: Thumbs down!

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 04:41 PM

I bet half of the members would love a bedroom scene ;)


Well, keep dreaming. This is a shonen manga, dat shiz ain't gonna happen. XD
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Posted 23 August 2014 - 04:43 PM

I came back!But... the thread is moving very slow.Ah what can we do now?


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 04:47 PM

I came back!But... the thread is moving very slow.Ah what can we do now?

I don't know. Make a question and see if we can answer or not. Weekends is when this place move very slow.

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 05:03 PM

I don't know. Make a question and see if we can answer or not. Weekends is when this place move very slow.

Ok!Here's a question.

Let's suppose that Sakura didn't make the fake confession(actually it was real),do you think that NH or SS would have more chances to become canon?


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 05:08 PM

Good answer.

Well, I only said only. If I were to say if he did go for her looks, then this answer is good. However, I said only, that doesn't sound good. In fact, that's bad. Lol. I'm against this:

Sakura: Why you like me?
Naruto: You're beautiful!
Sakura: What else?
Naruto: What else?! What else...is there?
Sai: Thumbs down!

I will try again. If it is like that I would be sad that the hero just likes Sakura because she is pretty. sorry for my short i have much to said but English still sucks.


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 05:09 PM

Real confession pfft haa...
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Posted 23 August 2014 - 05:15 PM

I will try again. If it is like that I would be sad that the hero just likes Sakura because she is pretty. sorry for my short i have much to said but English still sucks.

It's ok. Yeah, that's the feeling I would get.

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Posted 23 August 2014 - 05:29 PM

Ok!Here's a question.

Let's suppose that Sakura didn't make the fake confession(actually it was real),do you think that NH or SS would have more chances to become canon?

Nope they have been dead to me since Chapter 3 , POAL and Yamato's and Sai speech besides that they have barely any development in the case of SS mostly negative .  NH and SS serve only as an obstacle they existed only for the purpose of making the road of NS happening more difficult as for NS to not be seen as that obvious but Kishi failed even in that NS  just have to much of development and foreshadowing with everything they have .  


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Posted 23 August 2014 - 05:30 PM

Some of the SS and NH moments are fillers



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Posted 23 August 2014 - 05:37 PM

Nope they have been dead to me since Chapter 3 , POAL and Yamato's and Sai speech besides that they have barely any development in the case of SS mostly negative .  NH and SS serve only as an obstacle they existed only for the purpose of making the road of NS happening more difficult as for NS to not be seen as that obvious but Kishi failed even in that NS  just have to much of development and foreshadowing with everything they have .  

Yeah I think like that too but some NH &SS fans say that after the fake confession NS died.But I disagree.Fake confession is an obstacle to overcome for Naruto and Sakura.Every couple has ups and downs in their love-life.For NaruSaku,the fake confession.

Right?


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