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[TheFirstEvil100]

Plus they are still calling Sakura useless, I mean come the f on are they living in a cave or something. With what is going on in the world right now with COVID-19 the doctors are the ones fighting it.

I mean again it still makes my so pissed that they think a doctor is useless.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Plus they are still calling Sakura useless, I mean come the f on are they living in a cave or something. With what is going on in the world right now with COVID-19 the doctors are the ones fighting it.

I mean again it still makes my so pissed that they think a doctor is useless.

 

Yeah, tell me about it. And those pricks even forget Sakura SAVED Hinata.

[tricksie]

Sakura did so much that gets kind of glossed over. And this is not even a romanticized, fanfic version of her.

 

But straight out of the manga:

- she was one of the top young shinobis (if not the best girl of her year), even though she's not from a clan or shinobi family

- she took on a full medic load as well as the normal shinobi training load, even though she's not from a civilian medical family

- she trained with Tsunade to master one of her most powerful skills by age 14-15 (the ground-breaking punch)

- naturally strong in mind-controlling jutsu detection - she is shown in the chunin exam arena to be able to withstand powerful jutsus (when almost everyone else in the arena is knocked out except her Kakashi and Shikamaru), then is able to break Itachi's hold on them when Naruto can't.

- reaches sage level by the end and is able to stand side by side with Naruto and Sasuke in battle....AT THE SAME TIME that she is saving hundreds of people (including Naruto) in the war.

 

Because she's just that good.

 

- And, though it's not overtly shown, we can assume that she has been given the Slug contract from Tsunade, same as Naruto with the Frog contract from Jiraiya. So another level of unique and powerful distinction bestowed on Sakura. 

 

Sooooooo.... She's not the heroine because NS fans want her to be. She the heroine because she friggin is the best. 

 

Compare all that to Hinata, who

- unlocked her inherited chakra ability, learned from a family users who practiced the exact same jutsu (she didn't improve on or invent something new. Just learned what everyone else already knew.)

- was princess of her clan, the rest of which were suppressed so she could be the most powerful (they all were forced to have the bird seal except her)

- fought Pain unsuccessfully...nearly killed and had to be saved by Naruto...caused Naruto to nearly die

- fought in the war...tripped on a rock and had to be saved by Naruto...caused Neji to die

 

Again, all of that is straight out of the manga. There's simply no comparison between Hinata and Sakura. None. 

[Phantom_999]

Of course there is so much Sakura achieved and so much she has done and accomplished in story. And she acheived those things through hard work and determination, not because she came from a special family and was born with those gifts, she out right EARNED them. But why won't anyone that is against her acknowledge this? Because they don't want to like her. They don't want to acknowledge her growth because they want her to STAY as that whiny immature fan girl she was at the start of the  series to make Hinata that much more appealing for Naruto as a girlfriend and wife. Notice that they never actually rely on Hinata's actual accomplishments themselves or tend to over exaggerate what she DID do when making their arguments and cases because they know deep down she has nothing, and did not appear enough to show anything, even in filler arcs where the vast majority of her praises come from besides her "love confession" to Naruto. She had no truly definitive and exceptional role to prove her merits, she just gets more screen time and given additional utility abilities that are never brought up again because "filler".
 
Again though, what is SOOOO ironic and hypocritical about all of this is that Sakura DID end up being an obsessed annoying fangirl of her boyfriend and husband to be and her haters are still complaining about her, so what do they want? They don't want her to be a better character and genuinely affectionate to Naruto but she changes back to her old ways and haters still be hating because they WANT to see her behave that way. Doomed if you do, doomed if you don't. And still, NO ONE is happy about this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Edited by Phantom_999, 13 April 2020 - 07:37 PM.

[James S Cassidy]

 

Yeah, tell me about it. And those pricks even forget Sakura SAVED Hinata.

I said it before and I will say it again.

The only thing great about Hinata is her hospital bill.

[tricksie]

Again though, what is SOOOO ironic and hypocritical about all of this is that Sakura DID end up being an obsessed annoying fangirl of her boyfriend and husband to be and her haters are still complaining about her, so what do they want? They don't want her to be a better character and genuinely affectionate to Naruto but she changes back to her old ways and haters still be hating because they WANT to see her behave that way. Doomed if you do doomed if you don't. And still, NO ONE is happy about this. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

And it's so completely out of character for Sakura to return to Sasuke after everything. It just makes me think that the surprise ending and her surprise feelings for Sasuke and subsequently throwing out all her accomplishments/future goals and just reducing her to be Sasuke's housekeeper and single mother of the Uchiha heir was all to make people like Hinata better in the end!

 

They had to work just that hard to bring Sakura down so that they could make Hinata look better!

 

Honestly, I really do think this. Because they could have ended it with both pairings happy. They could have given Sakura a happy, fulfilling storyline. But to make her have a baby, be left to raise it alone when the dad doesn't know, be stripped of her goals and instead is keeping house for someone who doesn't know or care about her.... They went above and beyond to demolish her character.

 

And Hinata is happy because she's...well...Hinata. She still does nothing to impact the storyline.

 

They didn't build Hinata up. Not one single bit. They had to tear down Sakura. 

[Phantom_999]

I said it before and I will say it again.

The only thing great about Hinata is her hospital bill.

 
And even her hospital bill is mediocre when comparing injuries to the other characters.   That is how "involved and relevant" she was to the plot and story. Manga wise obviously, the fights she was involved in can be counted with only a few fingers. Just saying

Edited by Phantom_999, 14 April 2020 - 05:16 AM.

[HalfDemonInuyasha]

 

And it's so completely out of character for Sakura to return to Sasuke after everything. It just makes me think that the surprise ending and her surprise feelings for Sasuke and subsequently throwing out all her accomplishments/future goals and just reducing her to be Sasuke's housekeeper and single mother of the Uchiha heir was all to make people like Hinata better in the end!

 

They had to work just that hard to bring Sakura down so that they could make Hinata look better!

 

Honestly, I really do think this. Because they could have ended it with both pairings happy. They could have given Sakura a happy, fulfilling storyline. But to make her have a baby, be left to raise it alone when the dad doesn't know, be stripped of her goals and instead is keeping house for someone who doesn't know or care about her.... They went above and beyond to demolish her character.

 

And Hinata is happy because she's...well...Hinata. She still does nothing to impact the storyline.

 

They didn't build Hinata up. Not one single bit. They had to tear down Sakura. 

And it even shows with Hinatatas becoming just another carpet housewife herself despite being "sooooooo strong" and such.

[VanitasDS76491]

Plus they are still calling Sakura useless, I mean come the f on are they living in a cave or something. With what is going on in the world right now with COVID-19 the doctors are the ones fighting it.
I mean again it still makes my so pissed that they think a doctor is useless.

Agreed doctors save people all the time. Sakura has probably saved more people than hinata who has saved no one.

[Bryon_Konoha_Ninja]

Sakura did so much that gets kind of glossed over. And this is not even a romanticized, fanfic version of her.

 

But straight out of the manga:

- she was one of the top young shinobis (if not the best girl of her year), even though she's not from a clan or shinobi family

- she took on a full medic load as well as the normal shinobi training load, even though she's not from a civilian medical family

- she trained with Tsunade to master one of her most powerful skills by age 14-15 (the ground-breaking punch)

- naturally strong in mind-controlling jutsu detection - she is shown in the chunin exam arena to be able to withstand powerful jutsus (when almost everyone else in the arena is knocked out except her Kakashi and Shikamaru), then is able to break Itachi's hold on them when Naruto can't.

- reaches sage level by the end and is able to stand side by side with Naruto and Sasuke in battle....AT THE SAME TIME that she is saving hundreds of people (including Naruto) in the war.

 

Because she's just that good.

 

- And, though it's not overtly shown, we can assume that she has been given the Slug contract from Tsunade, same as Naruto with the Frog contract from Jiraiya. So another level of unique and powerful distinction bestowed on Sakura. 

 

Sooooooo.... She's not the heroine because NS fans want her to be. She the heroine because she friggin is the best. 

 

Compare all that to Hinata, who

- unlocked her inherited chakra ability, learned from a family users who practiced the exact same jutsu (she didn't improve on or invent something new. Just learned what everyone else already knew.)

- was princess of her clan, the rest of which were suppressed so she could be the most powerful (they all were forced to have the bird seal except her)

- fought Pain unsuccessfully...nearly killed and had to be saved by Naruto...caused Naruto to nearly die

- fought in the war...tripped on a rock and had to be saved by Naruto...caused Neji to die

 

Again, all of that is straight out of the manga. There's simply no comparison between Hinata and Sakura. None. 

 

Bravo, Tricksie! Plus we also forget another thing... HINATA NEVER BELIEVED IN NARUTO AT ALL NO MATTER WHAT HE DID OR ACCOMPLISHED BECAUSE SHE NEEDED HM TO BE A "PROUD FAILURE" TO BOOST HERSELF UP AND MAKE HERSELF FEEL BETTER ABOUT HER SITUATION...!!

[TheFirstEvil100]

I thought I would show this, now this is a friendship better and superior, than then BS with Naruto and Sasuke.

 

 

This handshake means so much more when you’ve actually played these games. From an outsiders point of view, they’d probably think this was cheesy or gay but Snake is one of the most closed-off people in the world and always came off as the guy who doesn’t have the luxury of having friends but he and Hal have been through so much not just on screen but probably even more off-screen. This handshake obviously wasn’t spontaneous. They’ve been through so much that we don’t know about (off-screen missions) that they’ve developed a friendship beyond words. They were brothers until the end.

[VanitasDS76491]

I thought I would show this, now this is a friendship better and superior, than then BS with Naruto and Sasuke.
 

 
This handshake means so much more when you’ve actually played these games. From an outsiders point of view, they’d probably think this was cheesy or gay but Snake is one of the most closed-off people in the world and always came off as the guy who doesn’t have the luxury of having friends but he and Hal have been through so much not just on screen but probably even more off-screen. This handshake obviously wasn’t spontaneous. They’ve been through so much that we don’t know about (off-screen missions) that they’ve developed a friendship beyond words. They were brothers until the end.

Best bromance ever next to Roxas and axel or sora and riku in kingdom Hearts all better than the fake friendship Naruto and sasuke had heck batman and superman are better friends

[Phantom_999]

As I said Naruto and Sasuke's relationship is a complete joke and insult to any other "best friends/former best friends that antagonize each other" type of relationship, on the very grounds that the writing GIVES no explanation on why they are even friends nor is their relationship even established nor are you given an explanation for it. All that is explained is that they are both orphans that felt emotional pain by social isolation and loneliness that can not be felt by anyone else that they know except each other but they NEVER even talked to each other about it, because Naruto always envied Sasuke for being a "talented prodigy" that attracted girls and Sasuke thought Naruto was a "talent-less loser" that never took anything seriously. You don't see any background bonding that could even establish them as friends and even later explanations don't improve things or in fact makes it even less believable. I don't think primary school kids or even toddlers find this so-called "bond" of theirs believable because they just hang out with who they like and DON'T HANG OUT with who they don't like. Naruto and Sasuke's bond is probably THE SADDEST AND POORLY EXCUSED plot line in the entire story and given what else is wrong with the manga/anime's writing as a whole that is saying something

Edited by Phantom_999, 29 April 2020 - 07:17 PM.

[VanitasDS76491]

As I said Naruto and Sasuke's relationship is a complete joke and insult to any other "best friends/former best friends that antagonize each other" type of relationship, on the very grounds that the writing GIVES no explanation on why they are even friends nor is their relationship even established nor are you given an explanation for it. All that is explained is that they are both orphans that felt emotional pain by social isolation and loneliness that can not be felt by anyone else that they know except each other but they NEVER even talked to each other about it, because Naruto always envied Sasuke for being a "talented prodigy" that attracted girls and Sasuke thought Naruto was a "talent-less loser" that never took anything seriously. You don't see any background bonding that could even establish them as friends and even later explanations don't improve things or in fact makes it even less believable. I don't think primary school kids or even toddlers find this so-called "bond" of theirs believable because they just hang out with who they like and DON'T HANG OUT with who they don't like. Naruto and Sasuk's bond is probably THE SADDEST AND POORLY EXCUSED plot line in the entire story and given what else is wrong with the manga/anime's writing as a whole that is saying something

Plus sasuke out of nowhere confession after hiso joke final fight with Naruto.

[LuckyChi7]

Should share this,  

 

Did a podcast with JamesSCassidy,  BlueStarSaber, Steve, Chatte, MangaReader, and Nostradamus (who's joining for the first time) on our beloved film Road to Ninja and why it's a masterpiece:

 

Edited by LuckyChi7, 21 April 2020 - 02:27 AM.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Should share this,  
 
Did a podcast with JamesSCassidy,  BlueStarSaber, Steve, Chatte, MangaReader, and Nostradamus (who's joining for the first time) on our beloved film Road to Ninja and why it's a masterpiece:
 

An early birthday gift.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

I plan to make a Kingdom Hearts/SoKai sometime this summer.

[Konoha'sCrimsonFox]

You know what funny? This site is one the most active manga/anime forum after Naruto and Bleach ended. How Ironic that this site was dedicated to NS. I go to my old forum sites such as OneManga it it like ghost town. The only site I cannot gauge how much members are active is the original Narutoforums. I wonder if its debatable? 

 

Kudos to all of us still being still clustered here with the years gone by.

[NaruSaku fan in Kentucky]

Well... before 700. I vowed to stay. Even when things go bad. I'm loyal to this site.

[James S Cassidy]

You know what funny? This site is one the most active manga/anime forum after Naruto and Bleach ended. How Ironic that this site was dedicated to NS. I go to my old forum sites such as OneManga it it like ghost town. The only site I cannot gauge how much members are active is the original Narutoforums. I wonder if its debatable? 

 

Kudos to all of us still being still clustered here with the years gone by.

Alot of the old sites are ghost towns or they don't exist anymore.