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#28661 Catwho

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:44 PM

Fandom acceptance is a funny old thing.

 

Disney just kitten on 30 years worth of Star Wars lore by saying NONE OF IT HAPPENED LALALALA so they could release Episodes 7-9 with a completely different story.  For some of us who were Star Wars fans when it was really uncool to like Star Wars (for me that was the early '90s) they just totally said that the defining stories of our adolescence aren't canon.   NOPE!  They're "Legends" now.  Yeah! That's the ticket!

 

It doesn't work like that.  In my mind, the Zahn trilogy is canon forever, and everything else Disney will come up with is fanfiction.

 

That's why I have no problem wholly discounting chapter 699-700 and The Last, as well as any other kitten that SP and Kishimoto come out with in that timeline.  The very fact that Kishi has all but admitted it was SP's idea to end NH invalidates it as canon in my mind.  

 

Fan acceptance is hugely important to how some franchises proceed after a reboot.  The Star Trek fandom is actually fairly uniform in accepting the original timeline as canon and all the cool new Star Trek stuff coming out as an alternate timeline (since that's how it was presented to us) so there is absolutely no cognitive dissonance.  You pick the one you like better.  Or you accept both as alternate universes, and play with the universe you like best.

 

And at the same time, fandoms can smell kitten a mile away and have no problems rejecting things that are clearly ass pulls.

 

Or, as the saying goes, there was no Terminator 3 movie.


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:45 PM

 

Watch At Your Own Risk!

One handed Kamehameha...ook. x)

But the music is great and the animation looks very good. Yeah, the NH fans are lucky...very lucky.  :umm:

And...OMG the ost "Naruto main them" from the FG... T-T


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:45 PM

In a cruel kind of way, I can't wait for the movie to get out. It will be hard and painful watching it but I'll have to do this one last thing before closing in the chapter for good... But I swear I'll go down in flames with it along... I'll be using Kishi's own manga against him and against everything he'll be trying to retcon in this kitten movie. I'll destroy every bit of this awful ending, I swear!

Coming soon from me. Working on my final laps. Also, I already got jokes and bad comments in the movie, so I'm pretty much ready from destroy this in million of pieces. I do plan to do two sides of it. One is downright serious, the other is how NC does his review.

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:47 PM

Oh look, more ladygt hate. Funny because this one you can tell they didn't read her post. Pathetic.

as I said on tumblr "they already proved us that they cannot read the manga right, so don't expect from them to know how to read a post properly" 

aahh stupid people  :facepalm:


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:54 PM

I know, I'm having one of those now too... That's why I am just a bit undecided towards what to head exactly..


One piece will save you!!

Don't let this terrible excuse for an ending steer you away from actual works of art. There are a lot better things to read that will take your mind off the way this turned out. OP is something that has saved me, might work for you :)

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:55 PM

Guys, guys I just to  recall you that we have the contest,but more than contest is for fun and to have some NS goodness in our little heart, please do not let win a novice like me to win.


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:56 PM

 
Whose money? There's no incentive for any person who felt disenfranchised or disappointed by this ending and movie to continue following this series. Pierrot has made their bed. They'll just have to hope that the NH and SS fandoms along with any neutrals who can still find enjoyment in this will be enough to support their future ventures with this dead horse because they have undoubtedly lost a large portion of their fans in these past few weeks. 


It's just that at this point, anything can happen with the series. But I get your point.

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 02:57 PM

It's because they know we're right. They know this "ending" is crap. They know it makes no sense. They're happy that they've won but they know it's a hollow victory.

Here's my position if done differently:

NS canon but same ending - Disappointed with the lackluster and leaving so many holes, but I guess I should be happy for NS. While I am, I still feel like it was very weak. Will I keep my collections? Sure, but I can't say I'll fanboy all the way.

NH canon but done far superior than the Last (novice difficulty) but same ending - Pretty disappointed. Despite the fact it came last minute, killing the whole purpose from chapter 3 till now, at least they made it somewhat convincing. Sad but sigh, oh well. As for the ending, it has so many holes and just downright terrible. Will I keep my collections? I may keep something but I got to say I feel cheated...

NH and ending did much superior than now - I do like the ending and all, just wish the pairing would make sense to me because it ruined the theme and purpose of his love. But I can't hate entirely. NH, well I guess I can deal with it. It did the best, even though NS still overshadows it, but whatever. Will I keep my collections? Eh, maybe. Who knows. But I can at least say the journey and all was good and satisfying.

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 03:04 PM

Here's my position if done differently:

NS canon but same ending - Disappointed with the lackluster and leaving so many holes, but I guess I should be happy for NS. While I am, I still feel like it was very weak. Will I keep my collections? Sure, but I can't say I'll fanboy all the way.

NH canon but done far superior than the Last (novice difficulty) but same ending - Pretty disappointed. Despite the fact it came last minute, killing the whole purpose from chapter 3 till now, at least they made it somewhat convincing. Sad but sigh, oh well. As for the ending, it has so many holes and just downright terrible. Will I keep my collections? I may keep something but I got to say I feel cheated...

NH and ending did much superior than now - I do like the ending and all, just wish the pairing would make sense to me because it ruined the theme and purpose of his love. But I can't hate entirely. NH, well I guess I can deal with it. It did the best, even though NS still overshadows it, but whatever. Will I keep my collections? Eh, maybe. Who knows. But I can at least say the journey and all was good and satisfying.

Today - kitten you.

you forgot SS repeat again( joking).


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 03:05 PM

you forgot SS repeat again( joking).

Everyone forgets SS :zaru:


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 03:06 PM

One piece will save you!!

Don't let this terrible excuse for an ending steer you away from actual works of art. There are a lot better things to read that will take your mind off the way this turned out. OP is something that has saved me, might work for you :)

i wish luffy will get serious already and stop kittening around with weak ass bellamy!!!


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 03:08 PM

Hello everyone!

 

How long has it been since the "APOCALYPSE"?

 

I went through a lot of stages, from anger, to sadness, to compromising,

to indifference and whatnot but nothing can change my stand on this.

 

I regret nothing from leaving NH/SS ship to support a beautiful ship called NaruSaku..

 

There was this huge block of text that i wrote but i decided to delete it all.

There isn't much to say that wasn't mentioned already.

 

But allow me to express myself, and share my opinion about certain matters through well.. screenshots lol.

 

Well before the last retcon movie start its production, they made a study.

They identify the problems that will hinder the success of their beloved Hinakittens' lovelife.

and here is how it goes:

 

QpnJNsS.jpg

 

 

Once they identified the problems, they took some counter measures.

and so this is how they train the Nardo everyone saw on that retcon movie.

 

Kzu263a.jpg

 

..you can probably guess what's next!

the cheesy moonlight kiss is the next course in line.

 

Yes, Nardo became the pathetic man that he is right now through that and so much more.

 

And now, let me show you some snippets of NH's wonderful lovelife!

 

The DATING STAGE

 

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THE MARRIED LIFE

 

this is them after their "happy ever after fairytale lovelove story"

 

 

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So yeah.. that wraps it up for now.

 

I have this old fanfic that i never got to upload but right now for some reason i think its applicable and..timely? lol

 

I got plenty of ideas running through my head but i don't seem to have much strength to continue anything related to this manga.

 

In addition to that after opening my old FF.net account after like a decade lol? i get to see my very first fanfic (which is SS/NH lelz) translated into three different languages (when the kitten did ff had this feature?). looking back my old self i'll be overjoyed with so much positive reviews on my work but now its making me cringe, i'll probably use a different account if ever i will upload a NS one. sadly for those readers they didn't know i stopped writing that fic because the story started to deviate towards NS without me even trying


Edited by dejavu, 12 December 2014 - 03:10 PM.


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 03:09 PM

you forgot SS repeat again( joking).


The what? Oh that. Yeah, that's why I said "Don't know about keeping my collections."

Hm...now I think about it. I won't keep them. Yeah...That really changes everything. I mean you can try to make it developed greatly to convince me I guess. But as of now, hit it and quit it is how Salad is born.

Ok, I should get ready to sell...

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 03:15 PM

Hello everyone!

 

How long has it been since the "APOCALYPSE"?

 

I went through a lot of stages, from anger, to sadness, to compromising,

to indifference and whatnot but nothing can change my stand on this.

 

I regret nothing from leaving NH/SS ship to support a beautiful ship called NaruSaku..

 

There was this huge block of text that i wrote but i decided to delete it all.

There isn't much to say that wasn't mentioned already.

 

But allow me to express myself, and share my opinion about certain matters through well.. screenshots lol.

 

Well before the last retcon movie start its production, they made a study.

They identify the problems that will hinder the success of their beloved Hinakittens' lovelife.

and here is how it goes:

 

QpnJNsS.jpg

 

 

Once they identified the problems, they took some counter measures.

and so this is how they train the Nardo everyone saw on that retcon movie.

 

Kzu263a.jpg

 

..you can probably guess what's next!

the cheesy moonlight kiss is the next course in line.

 

Yes, Nardo became the pathetic man that he is right now through that and so much more.

 

And now, let me show you some snippets of NH's wonderful lovelife!

 

The DATING STAGE

 

bwVeO4h.jpg

 

 

THE MARRIED LIFE

 

this is them after their "happy ever after fairytale lovelove story"

 

 

n2hI3df.jpg

 

 

So yeah.. that wraps it up for now.

 

I have this old fanfic that i never got to upload but right now for some reason i think its applicable and..timely? lol

 

I got plenty of ideas running through my head but i don't seem to have much strength to continue anything related to this manga.

 

In addition to that after opening my old FF.net account after like a decade lol? i get to see my very first fanfic (which is SS/NH lelz) translated into three different languages (when the kitten did ff had this feature?). looking back my old self i'll be overjoyed with so much positive reviews on my work but now its making me cringe, i'll probably use a different account if ever i will upload a NS one. sadly for those readers they didn't know i stopped writing that fic because the story started to deviate towards NS without me even trying

Lol, you know what, a lot of the Naruto SD series coincides with this hell of a movie...

 

I mean, look at Hinata's dress in the poster they just released and in the post here. Also, the NH marriage happened in SD under Hinata's illusions or something like that, then there's the genjutsu-like love at first sight technique and all that.

I swear that The Last feels like a stupid joke taken out of SD I swear...


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 03:15 PM

Riku, I need to add a new title to this review...I think that might be how they are spotting it. 

Could you tell me how to say something like; "My eyes have been ruined?" please  :wibble:

 

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 03:15 PM

Here's my position if done differently:

NS canon but same ending - Disappointed with the lackluster and leaving so many holes, but I guess I should be happy for NS. While I am, I still feel like it was very weak. Will I keep my collections? Sure, but I can't say I'll fanboy all the way.

NH canon but done far superior than the Last (novice difficulty) but same ending - Pretty disappointed. Despite the fact it came last minute, killing the whole purpose from chapter 3 till now, at least they made it somewhat convincing. Sad but sigh, oh well. As for the ending, it has so many holes and just downright terrible. Will I keep my collections? I may keep something but I got to say I feel cheated...

NH and ending did much superior than now - I do like the ending and all, just wish the pairing would make sense to me because it ruined the theme and purpose of his love. But I can't hate entirely. NH, well I guess I can deal with it. It did the best, even though NS still overshadows it, but whatever. Will I keep my collections? Eh, maybe. Who knows. But I can at least say the journey and all was good and satisfying.

Today - kitten you.

Similar to you. I'm glad that NS isn't canon like this. What we got is an insult to anyone that ever followed this series.

 

Hello everyone!

 

How long has it been since the "APOCALYPSE"?

 

I went through a lot of stages, from anger, to sadness, to compromising,

to indifference and whatnot but nothing can change my stand on this.

 

I regret nothing from leaving NH/SS ship to support a beautiful ship called NaruSaku..

 

There was this huge block of text that i wrote but i decided to delete it all.

There isn't much to say that wasn't mentioned already.

 

But allow me to express myself, and share my opinion about certain matters through well.. screenshots lol.

 

Well before the last retcon movie start its production, they made a study.

They identify the problems that will hinder the success of their beloved Hinakittens' lovelife.

and here is how it goes:

 

QpnJNsS.jpg

 

 

Once they identified the problems, they took some counter measures.

and so this is how they train the Nardo everyone saw on that retcon movie.

 

Kzu263a.jpg

 

..you can probably guess what's next!

the cheesy moonlight kiss is the next course in line.

 

Yes, Nardo became the pathetic man that he is right now through that and so much more.

 

And now, let me show you some snippets of NH's wonderful lovelife!

 

The DATING STAGE

 

bwVeO4h.jpg

 

 

THE MARRIED LIFE

 

this is them after their "happy ever after fairytale lovelove story"

 

 

n2hI3df.jpg

 

 

So yeah.. that wraps it up for now.

 

I have this old fanfic that i never got to upload but right now for some reason i think its applicable and..timely? lol

 

I got plenty of ideas running through my head but i don't seem to have much strength to continue anything related to this manga.

 

In addition to that after opening my old FF.net account after like a decade lol? i get to see my very first fanfic (which is SS/NH lelz) translated into three different languages (when the kitten did ff had this feature?). looking back my old self i'll be overjoyed with so much positive reviews on my work but now its making me cringe, i'll probably use a different account if ever i will upload a NS one. sadly for those readers they didn't know i stopped writing that fic because the story started to deviate towards NS without me even trying

I love the fact that in 700 Naruto is acting exactly like Neji said he would. Maybe it's Kishi's payback for what SP did with his story who knows.

Even though NH is canon they didn't get a happy ending at all. Hinata is happy because she got Naruto in bed but that's really it. It's a loveless relationship based on rivalry. :lol:


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 03:17 PM

Everyone forgets SS :zaru:

I hope SP forget, but unfortunately Kishi will remember and probably will hidden it  in Sakuras moments.


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#28678 Chatte

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Posted 12 December 2014 - 03:17 PM

Similar to you. I'm glad that NS isn't canon like this. What we got is an insult to anyone that ever followed this series.

 

I love the fact that in 700 Naruto is acting exactly like Neji said he would. Maybe it's Kishi's payback for what SP did with his story who knows.

Even though NH is canon they didn't get a happy ending at all. Hinata is happy because she got Naruto in bed but that's really it. It's a loveless relationship based on rivalry. :lol:

She even became the stalker from SD FfS! Stalking his pocket to check if he has money and all that shiz.

Man, how can people be happy with that?


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 03:19 PM

that nh/mk poster really does rub salt on the wound. we're clearly being mocked.


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Posted 12 December 2014 - 03:20 PM

She even became the stalker from SD FfS! Stalking his pocket to check if he has money and all that shiz.

Man, how can people be happy with that?

Like I said the only ones that are happy with this crap are the hardcore NH fans who never cared about how exactly Hinata ends up with Naruto and how it's going to do be, just that they end up together.

Those people are the only ones satisfied with this crap. The rest of us know it's kitten.


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Which I've told you - time and time again - is dangerous! There will never be consensus, son, among those you have helped to ascend. They will all differ in their views of what it means to be free. The peace you so desperately seek does not exist.
 
These men are united now by a common cause. But when this battle is finished they will fall to fighting amongst themselves about how best to ensure control. In time it will lead to war. You will see.






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